Fluke Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) @AXPCalledJeff Well that's a bit close minded. I take it you are a Christian? Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking everything "occult" which means hidden is evil. You would rather write snide comments and you don't appear to know or studied anything in the occult. The irony being you are on a forum where a lot of users along with David believe the queen's a shape shifting lizard. You sound like one of those who called David mad. One of seanx lot no doubt. (Mod note - no C's aimed at other members please) Edited August 27, 2020 by Basket Case Removed direct profane insult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXPCalledJeff Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fluke said: @AXPCalledJeff Well that's a bit close minded. I take it you are a Christian? Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking everything "occult" which means hidden is evil. You would rather write snide comments and you don't appear to know or studied anything in the occult. The irony being you are on a forum where a lot of users along with David believe the queen's a shape shifting lizard. You sound like one of those c**TS who called David mad. One of seanx lot no doubt. No words can describe how dumb your reply is. Wrong on every single account. Don't forget to brush the feeces out of your teeth before your curator comes to check on you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fluke said: @AXPCalledJeff Well that's a bit close minded. I take it you are a Christian? Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking everything "occult" which means hidden is evil. You would rather write snide comments and you don't appear to know or studied anything in the occult. The irony being you are on a forum where a lot of users along with David believe the queen's a shape shifting lizard. You sound like one of those c**TS who called David mad. One of seanx lot no doubt. Not to fight anyones little battles or whatever but I would like to add something because that's a strawman argument. You do not have to be religious to see what aleister did with his life as inherently disgusting and evil. He talks about drinking the blood of children, he was one of the most influential figures to satanists and satanism as a whole. The fact is that his teachings have destroyed maybe millions of lives up to this point. How many kids are satanic ritually abused? A lot. Hampstead, Elm guest house, Saville, Ted Heath, Bill Clinton, John Podesta, Hillary Clinton just to name a few. All of Aleister's work is hailed as doctrine to these kinds of people. So yes he is evil and his doctrine is evil, if you disagree then maybe you need to check yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 @FVCK BILLY G4TESyes but he lumped me in as being a crowleyite when I said I had an interest in the occult chaos magick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fluke said: @FVCK BILLY G4TESyes but he lumped me in as being a crowleyite when I said I had an interest in the occult chaos magick. You're barking up the wrong tree pal I don't like the golden dawn whatsoever or anything they have pioneered. If an evil shitbag creates something, I don't touch it. Personal rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) @oz93666 on an energetic level, if you analyze corwley's movement thelma, it is tainted by his (evil) influence. whatever "powers" or so called "mystical experiences" crwoley experienced, in the end his life was misery. this shows you that it is not a positive path. “Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary. This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you. Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it.” ― Carlos Castaneda, The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge Edited August 27, 2020 by shabbirss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Also would like to add this. Barbara Crowley Bush... scum Edited August 27, 2020 by FVCK BILLY G4TES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Also would like to add this. Barbara Crowley Bush... scum poop eaters stare lol outta likes.cheers mate Edited August 27, 2020 by shabbirss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Highly suggest you listen to this. Thomas is describing you lot. Edited August 27, 2020 by Fluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 @Fluke I don't know why you feel the need to justify it, maybe it's for yourself I dont know. What I do know is that Aleister Crowley was a disgusting piece of shit who inspired more pieces of magickal turds to commit very heinous and sick crimes. How can this just be squared away? If you can just write off the damage he has done in infesting our planet with evil, damage he has done to children, abandoning his family to commune with aiwass, eating his own shite, hanging his girlfriend upside down in the wardrobe while he would have hoes in his bed etc, then we don't need to debate this subject anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 You might learn something if you watch the video. So many sheep on here who claim to be awake and then they use throw away claims that he was "evil" "depraved". Just your average christian abrahamic virus mindset in full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) I would say that anyone who screws around with the dark forces is in grave danger and very foolish. The Bible points out certain things, certain lines, and you would be ill advised to cross those things. Those dangers and seductions are very real, and pain is very real as well. But ... we all need stress relief from heavy handed preaching, and a heavy handed world. We need stress relief full stop. But choose wisely. There are many entertainments and activities in this world that ... don't require engaging dark forces. Real spirituality is not very noisy, but it is very powerful. Noise and big drama theatre and whatever ... it's a big show, but all that glitters is not gold. One thing I appreciate is the idea that we should explore both poles, the heaven and the earth, the carnal and the esoteric. In the evening sit like a monk, in the daytime carry out your duties efficiently. This echoes Laozi, "do what needs to be done", "in daily life be efficient", "rest when the work is done, that way it lasts forever". I don't take this idea as license for debauchery, but for honest contact with many things in life. Through that contact wisdom grows and eventually it takes you upwards. It allows you to enter this world more, and also the higher world. Each plane is used rightly. Crowley's nickname 'the beast' was what his mother called him, I suppose they didn't get on well. His parents liked a traditional simple spirituality and when their son arrived he seemed to sense esoteric worlds effortlessly ... and the parents and he weren't able to communicate from one type of spirituality to the other. Then Crowley over-reacted and started making a lot of drama. But yes in some of his work contains beautiful words and phrases and artworks. But most of it reflects a noisy rebellion that he didn't need to make, and didn't take him home. In the name of the Lord of initiation, Amen. I fly and I alight like an hawk Of mother of emerald are my mighty sweeping wings I swoop down onto the black earth And it gladdens into green at my coming. Edited August 27, 2020 by rideforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 when a human being goes into a Lion's territory in the jungle, he is on edge and eager to move on, not wanting to be attacked. this applies to an animal that we can SEE and UNDERSTAND straight up - with our Human Abilities. Going into the astral and occult realms, where you CANNOT SEE or UNDERSTAND CLEARLY is not a light undertaking. Who knows TRULY what forces you connect to or bring back with you? Some may appear as guides,just to trick you and feed off your power, one would never know until it's too late. it may be a PREDATOR that is connecting to you. This is why we have all the confusion and corruption coming out of these practices. Better to stay away. or seek cleaner methods if you truly want "enlightenment" aiwaas is a jinn he connected to. look at the name. go figure. Stick to your lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Anyone who reveres Crowley or even finds him 'intriguing' or interesting is a different form of humanity to myself and healthy sane people. The problem is some people just don't have a frame of reference for what a healthy sane mind is........ and they feel they are being attacked by an 'intolerant Christian attitude' when that's not what it is. It's called being sane. I'm glad I'm sane....... but we seem to be an endangered minority in the world today and we certainly don't call the shots anymore. Edited August 27, 2020 by Truthspoon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) crawleys "legacy" : in the end his life was misery. Edited August 27, 2020 by shabbirss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, shabbirss said: @oz93666 on an energetic level, if you analyze corwley's LIFE .... it is tainted by his (evil) influence. whatever "powers" or so called "mystical experiences" crwoley experienced, in the end his life was misery. this shows you that it is not a positive path. You think I need to be told that shabbirss ? I said very clearly in my first post Crowley has incurred a VERY heavy Karmic debt .... all the torment and suffering he has inflicted on others will come back to him and he will have to re-balance the energy , by being a victim in future lives ..... Important to understand Crowley did not incarnate with evil intent ... none of us do ...Crowley, when alive , believed he was the re-incarnation of the magician Éliphas Lévi ... And Mollison's channeling of Crowley confirms Crowley had many past lives as magicians .... he incarnated with a plan to try to put things right , pay off bad Karma .... but as often happens , when he got here , corrupting dark spirits found it was an easy job to lead him astray , back into old bad habits , and he died with even more bad karma than when he arrived !! Posts on this thread suggest I have not explained clearly why Thelema has a role as positive force in our future ...Let me try again , using Christianity as an example .... I have said elsewhere , that in my youth , it appeared to me Christianity was a toxic plague on society , holding humanity back , that it should be wiped out , churches burnt down ... Many truthers are aware the higher you go up in the church , the more corrupt and evil it is ...Insiders tell us the Pope and others perform satanic rituals torturing and killing children ....Pedophilia is rampant among priests , and covered up successive Popes ... New Vatican buildings are designed in homage to their reptilian masters Vatican Audience Hall But also the central Icon in Christianity the crucifix , is clearly Evil ... designed to keep Christians focused on torture , despair , suffering and slow death ...and this goes back thousands of years , so it appears Evil was designed into Christianity from the very start ...And we should reject it all !! Not so fast , it's not that easy .... Christianity has an equally positive side , and does have a very uplifting and Divine influence on millions of it's followers ... they have manage to take only that which is beneficial ... In this dualistic Free will reality any religion must offer a choice of both the dark and the light ...We must have a choice to test us! So don't reject Christianity just because the latest Pope is a child sacrificing pedophile ! And don't reject Thelema , just because the Great Beast was even more Wicked ... Contained within Thelema is a jewel of sublime wisdom which will take humanity to paradise and the stars ! Edited August 28, 2020 by oz93666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprogrammed48 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Great doc. The goober with the long hair pisses me off though. He seems so amazed by Crowley as if he was some genius or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Truthspoon said: Anyone who reveres Crowley or even finds him 'intriguing' or interesting is a different form of humanity to myself and healthy sane people. The problem is some people just don't have a frame of reference for what a healthy sane mind is........ and they feel they are being attacked by an 'intolerant Christian attitude' when that's not what it is. It's called being sane. I'm glad I'm sane....... but we seem to be an endangered minority in the world today and we certainly don't call the shots anymore. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Fluke said: Why? Why am I glad I'm sane? Because I've tried the alternative and I didn't like it. It's not fun fearing the setting sun because you know that's when the shadows lengthen and the demons within reach out to you with cold clawing fingers that find their way inside your mind. Glad I don't have that problem anymore. Edited August 28, 2020 by Truthspoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnigmaticWorld Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Fluke said: So if you hate twisted and subversive shite like Marina Abramović's "art" you're in the same category as a JW? Where do people draw the line on the entartete kunst, or will people just accept Weimar 2.0? We need some moral compass. I understand that Christianity is not cool these days, but it looks like we have regressed massively since people in the West have turned away from Christianity, and now we have to face the prospect of digital IDs too now that people have shit on the main group of people that stand against that crap. I would rather embrace Christendom than be a slave to technocracy and have filth promoted to my children, but that's just me. (Not a dig at you, Fluke.) Edited August 28, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, oz93666 said: But also the central Icon in Christianity the crucifix , is clearly Evil ... designed to keep Christians focused on torture , despair , suffering and slow death ...and this goes back thousands of years , so it appears Evil was designed into Christianity from the very start ...And we should reject it all What if we're not supposed to worship Jesus dying on a cross? What if the cross is just black cube crap? Some texts say Jesus died on a tree. What if the majority of the nonces appeared after the clergy sold their flock out to a different ideology? https://i.imgur.com/E1MU1MT.jpg Edited August 28, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronald77 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 8:26 PM, Fluke said: You might learn something if you watch the video. So many sheep on here who claim to be awake and then they use throw away claims that he was "evil" "depraved". Just your average christian abrahamic virus mindset in full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald77 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/28/2020 at 11:40 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: (Not a dig at you, Fluke.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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