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About a year ago, I came upon the Colossis of Memnon, as part of seemingly unrelated research on space and Earth anomalies.  After careful examination, I can only come to these conclusions...

1. The colossus on the right or North Colossus, is not pharaoh Amenhotep 3, but Horus.
2. The colossi are NOT statues.  They were articulated, and very life-like, some very high tech features can be found at multiple places on the "statues".  They could stand.
3. The colossus on the left, or South Colossus is very likely Osiris.
4. The amount of care, technology and detail put in these objects makes it unlikely they were mere representations of the gods. They are most probably the things themselves, or rather their avatars.

I realize these are quite extraordinary claims, with many ramifications into not only Egyptology, but also in understanding some of the secret societies, their cult of Isis.  Yet, egyptian hieroglyphs do claim of the physical presence of the Egyptian pantheon on Earth...  

This is a lot to take in.  I realize this will need quite a bit of demonstrating and explaining. This will be done in the days to come. Expect study and close-ups of multiple photographs of the Colossi from different angles, A study of Tanis, another egyptian site with evidence of half-fossilized robots of the same type.  In my research, I also came across more ancient robotic artifacts, which I will also present.  There is evidence that there could have been a very long-term interaction of some entities with the inhabitants of this planet via these machines or avatars.

 

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Before we start, let's have a look at Horus, and his story.

I'm not an historian, nor an egyptologist, there are many sources that do explain Horus and its central importance in the egyptian pantheon, as well as who are the other protaonists in his story.
 
I'll cite from Wikipedia, it's as good as any for the scope of this exposé:
 

Horus or Her, Heru, Hor, Har in Ancient Egyptian, is one of the most significant ancient Egyptian deities who served many functions, most notably god of kingship and the sky. He was worshipped from at least the late prehistoric Egypt until the Ptolemaic Kingdom and Roman Egypt. Different forms of Horus are recorded in history and these are treated as distinct gods by Egyptologists.[2] These various forms may possibly be different manifestations of the same multi-layered deity in which certain attributes or syncretic relationships are emphasized, not necessarily in opposition but complementary to one another, consistent with how the Ancient Egyptians viewed the multiple facets of reality.[3] He was most often depicted as a falcon, most likely a lanner falcon or peregrine falcon, or as a man with a falcon head.[4]

The earliest recorded form of Horus is the tutelary deity of Nekhen in Upper Egypt, who is the first known national god, specifically related to the ruling pharaoh who in time came to be regarded as a manifestation of Horus in life and Osiris in death.[2] The most commonly encountered family relationship describes Horus as the son of Isis and Osiris, and he plays a key role in the Osiris myth as Osiris's heir and the rival to Set, the murderer and brother of Osiris. In another tradition Hathor is regarded as his mother and sometimes as his wife.[2]





Source (08/25/2020): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus

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I believe this original statuette is in the Louvre museum, Paris, France.   Keep the shape of the head in mind, we will have a closer look to the real thing soon.


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I found the interesting statuette below for sale on ebay.  Interesting, since he is in the same seated position as the colossus.

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Before I start...  These claims are quite extraordinary and do require a lot of evidence. There is, so this may get a bit lengthy, as you can guess. Whole books can be devoted to this pair of "statues" alone.  In fact, I'm using this column as a way to collect my thoughts and find the most appropriate way to present this evidence.  There are many topics to cover, and also topics for me to research more thoroughly.  I am by no means an expert in egyptology, nor in chemistry, and while the Internet does provide some material for examination,  I don't think I'd be able to write a decent book on this matter without first examining the objects from up close, and gathering my own imagery.     

I came upon these "statues" while taking notes on a seemingly totally unrelated subject, Earth and Space anomalies...  I say seemingly, because as I dig deeper and deeper, the phenomenon of space anomalies appears to involve such a high level of technological prowess, large amounts of raw materials and grandiose scale, that their builders would have god-like status compared to our advanced technological stage.

I did publish my observations as I went, and I include the links below for thoroughness.  Please view these as a simple colllections of observations, published as I was making them.

https://www.whatsupinthesky.com/index.php/forum/earth-anomalies/5064-the-old-type-1-civilization
https://www.whatsupinthesky.com/index.php/forum/the-miscellaneous-spot/5797-the-builders

 

I also made a couple of short videos on the subject, please excuse my terrible production skills. It contains some of the material that will be exposed here.
 

 



While I haven't started in earnest and this parenthesis is still open...  If you posses material that you think could help me in this ongoing research, like good quality pictures, or know of other researchers that stumbled upon this, please share and let me know, this would help me greatly.  I'll be discreet if needed, I understand this is a sensitive matter professional historians and academics may want to avoid being associated with. That's the unfortunate state of science these days.
 

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It's difficult to find a good starting point...  My experience is that some people will only see stone, and are unable to see the finer details. People who can draw do not have this limitation. Sometimes explaining the nature of what is encased in stone (or dried mud, we'll also explore some of the chemistry behind it) does wonder.    

I'll start with what is most obvious to see.

Why is it unlikely that the North colossus is a statue of Amenhotep III?   As most people know, large ancient Egyptian pharaonic statues always depict the lord of the land in a very stoic pose.  Head held up high, always looking straight forward.  All such statues exhibit remarkable symmetry, even though ancient Egyptian artists would, in smaller statuettes reproduce the natural asymmetry found in one's face.  

Here is a view of the North colossi from up above...

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Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gballardice/15745336209/in/photostream/
 

The asymmetry of the coiffe is quite evident and marked.  The head seems to be truned to the right, and quite a bit.  There are three possibilities here:  the statue was carved showing the head turned to its side (other art tells us this is unlikely), the stone statue suffered some diformity, while not breaking (the stiffness of stone makes this very unlikely), or the "statue" was once articulated, which is also unlikely if it ever was a stone statue, as stated by egyptologists. 

Here are more shots, showing this anomaly is not due to a  missing piece of stone, or breakage of some sort.

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Source: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/391d13a0-da9b-45dc-9f93-081255dcd598/d4b4bp6-7a75ca68-3785-4871-ae3f-2f14b0c12358.jpg/v1/fill/w_1118,h_715,q_75,strp/0e06f93449e6d07f2eee6915768348a8-d4b4bp6.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi8zOTFkMTNhMC1kYTliLTQ1ZGMtOWY5My0wODEyNTVkY2Q1OTgvZDRiNGJwNi03YTc1Y2E2OC0zNzg1LTQ4NzEtYWUzZi0yZjE0YjBjMTIzNTguanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTExMTgiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTcxNSJ9XV19.EduPSPYjwiEAjCN6EmQzVlrRwHf_TzGQrSG-CHPe3zM
   

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I wanted to go straight to the study of Horus' face, but have to make one important observation before I do.  It is much easier to see what is front of us when we understand what we are looking for.  This is probably why the true nature off the two collosus has escaped many (although, I'm quite certain some people MUST be in the know).

So, at least one evidence that these are not stone statues is in order.  Even though, it is quite certain that some people will need to go back and forth through this column to make sense of it when all is said and done.  Please excuse me, this is a work in progress, a kind of draft.

The viewer on this site is not great for high resolution images...  I suggest you use Ctrl-left click or 'open file in new tab' to open and view the files in full resolution, and possibly download them to explore with your favorite image viewer.   I also try to save all sources files on archive.org, in case the orignal posts disappear.  

Here is a side view of the colossus.   I'll call the one closer to us Osiris, and the other one Horus, for now.  They are in fairly bad shape...  Osiris looks like it feel flat on its face before sitting down, and Horus looks likes it was hacked to pieces and hastily put back together.

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#1.  Source: https://www.jacobmetcalf.co.uk/egypt/egypt.html    https://www.jacobmetcalf.co.uk/egypt/images/egypt026-large.jpg

 

Let's have a closer look at Osiris:

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#2. Source: http://protegeonslanature.eklablog.net/les-colosses-de-memnon-a115068536  http://ekladata.com/qY1AQ1WNzJLzPwrDLGyVsAc1nkc.jpg


Now, if Osiris had been made of solid rock, we should expect his face to be broken, and the pieces would have fallen off quite cleanly.  Here we get a sense that the face is flattened and the pieces stayed stuck in place. Common sense tells me that means he was somewhat hollow when the damage occurred.

In the face view below, one can tell the face has also slipped clockwise a bit, along with the torso.  We'll get back to the torso later.

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#3. Source: https://wildbirdscollective.com/egypte-necropole-thebes/  https://wildbirdscollective.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Egypte-Nil-Colosse-Memnon-Christophe-Levet-WBC-16-sur-42.jpg

Zoom on the left ear from image #2.  The bottom f the earlobe has fallen off, letting us see there is some kind of structure inside.  The ear is a bit askew, it's titled towards the back, and there is a hole on the side of the skull where it should be attached.

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#4.  Detail from image #2, 200% zoom

On the right side, I've put numbers right on the areas of interest, so you can examine them on the left.

1.  This is obviously hollow.  It does look like the ear is a thin shell.
2.  One of the bars holding the shell in place.
3. The ear is tilted back, this hole on the side of the skull is right where the ear should have been.
4. Is this a sheared tubular support?
5. This looks like a tear in the ear shell.
6; These circular features sure are interesting.  In general mechanics, circular features usually indicate a pivot point. Was this assembly supple?

7. Folds in this area gove it the looks of fabric.
8. These features give a clue that there may be more mechanical parts just below the surface..
9.  Is this a support?  It looks quite complex for a simple support, it goes all the way inside the skull...  I've marked with a rectangle this square feature with a small knob in the center, again this looks like a pivot point.  This could be an actuator. 

That's it for now on the ear.  But there are countless more details to examine. I believe there is a lot to learn in these objects, for anyone interested in humanoid robotics.  The details are not only indicative of a machine, but everything is in the right scale and placed right where it should be. As we'll see in the following posts, the amount of details to go over is quite staggering, and a proper study would take years.

Anyway, this one post is only an introduction to the prism, or bias, one has to have to examine properly these two 'statues'.   It's much easier to see what is in front of you when you know what you are looking at.  A friend of mine, who scraps metal for a living, struggled to understand what I was seeing.   Once I explained that he should imagine a pile of scrap auto parts covered in mud, he started to see, and even pointed to more details I hadn't noticed

This quick loook at Osiris was fun.  We should be ready to look at Horus' head next.  It's about time, since he's what makes this discovery so special.

Comments and discussion are welcome.  I am still experimenting on the visuals, so if that does not work, let me know. I am always looking for material related to paleorobotics. And high definition images of the Memnon objects, the more the better.  I will create a thread in the "help wanted" section of this forum for this purpose.

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What is striking about the two colossal anthropomorphic objects at Memnon is how different from one another they look.  They are presented to us as two statues of the same Pharaoh: Amenhotep III.  But their heads are totally different.  

 

Granted, the one sitting on the right, or East colossi, has been badly damaged.  Its body is cut up in a dozen or so pieces, a fate reminiscent of the fate Osiris met in Egyptian mythology.  Granted also, the West Colossus is also quite beat up, its face was bashed in pretty bad.  But, even with this major dis-figuration, the West Colossus' face is still recognizable as being human.  The East colossus doesn't.  There are nothing in the proportions of its head that suggest there is anything human about it. There is not even the slightest hint of a neck, a face, or anything that reminds us of our own species.

 

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[Source: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/memnon-941576.jpg]

 

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[source; https://www.islamichistoryandtravel.com/colossi-of-memnon-luxor/   https://i1.wp.com/www.islamichistoryandtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/EGLVKDSC_0852-18.jpg?resize=680%2C450&ssl=1]

 

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[source: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-ancient-sculpture-of-colossus-memnon-luxor-egypt-55033506.html https://c7.alamy.com/comp/D5EYPA/ancient-sculpture-of-colossus-memnon-luxor-egypt-D5EYPA.jpg

 

If we didn't know better, from its location atop a set of shoulders, we could be mistaken and think it was an egg.  At first, I even thought it could be an eye.

But, since it's atop a set of shoulders, and is adorned with a headdress, it has to be some sort of head, hasn't it?  And if it's a head, it MUST be somewhat symmetrical. Almost all lifeforms on Earth have symmetrical heads, except for a few exceptions, like flounder fish...  After fiddling around a bit I came up with this:

 

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[Source: https://indianvalleyscuba.wordpress.com/tag/el-qusier/   https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg

(detail)

 

The head is there, cocked to its right side, looking down a bit.  Very unusual.  We're used to see Egyptian statues in very symetrical, imperial poses.  They usually look straight ahead, and exhibit lots of symmetry, even in the slightest details.  This is not what we're supposed to have here.  First of all,it looks like the left half the 'face' is missing, eye, orbit and all. Then, it still doesn't look human.

 

We will be using the source for this image again, since it is the best quality and definition picture I could find of this object.  The original is 2810x3747 pixels, focus and exposure are as good as can be expected from a travel memento;  I suggest you download it to explore and play with it at your leisure.  Here is the full image and its link again:

 

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https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg


Boy, these things are impressive.  This man is completely dwarfed by the object, even though he himself is built more like a rugbyman than like a midget.

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A small parenthesis...

As anyone who has tried to do this kind of exercise know, it is difficult to present things in the proper order. Especially when a discovery has become self-evident to your mind, and when it involves different fields and processes. In this case, some of the fields and processes involved are Egyptology, Geology, Robotics, Chemistry, History, and ultimately Theology and Philosophy. I do not intend to dwell into the latter two, they are very subjective, and I do not have either the proper training nor knowledge to pretend offering anything but a new set of questions in these fields. Ironically, as I write this, I realize that questioning is their actual object of study.

Geology: these objects are presented to us as made of solid stone... I have touched up on this a little bit already. I will provide in an annex samples of actual broken stone statues. That's not urgent at this point, since the physics behind breakage and erosion are already proven and well known. Erosion and decay of composite objects will always first remove softer and more degradable materials first. For mineralization, the process is also well know. Probably a bit less, but the basic principle is as far as I understand involves the dissolving and extracting "organic" material using an acidic or basic compound.

Robotics: this exposé will show there is enough visible evidence for some very instructive reverse engineering. Need I say more?

Egyptology: without wanting to point my finger at anyone... I have no reason to believe Egyptology in its current state is a branch of science. On-site, any research is dealt with as a state secret. Off-site, it is being managed more like a religion than a scientific endeavour. I am not the only one to deplore this sad state of affairs. It's up to Egyptologists themselves to change our mind.

I did make some observations of large scale mineralization in progress, and intend to provide them as annexes when I have the time, or before if asked for.

What I needed to say at this point, is that I am aware that this study of the Colossi will raise questions and lower eyebrows. And also that while this presentation is a work in progress, I can provide answers to some urgent questions if requested.

While I am at it, I would very much enjoy having a rational conversation with anyone knowledgeable with myths involving Horus and Osiris. The state of the East Colossus, being all cut up is perplexing to me... As far as I understand that was the fate of Osiris, at some point. That said, the left eye of the East Colossus seems to be missing indeed. I fully realize this whole matter is rather "hot". I will be discreet.

Enough of that already. Let's get back to the East Colossus.

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They are not robots ... clearly, where are the wires?  Where are the joints?

Not there, it's all rock, so no robots.

People are fed robotics through the internet now they see robots in their scramble eggs !!!

Look ... it's moving !!!

 

If those stone statues moved they moved because the rock was alive.  

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We need another confirmation that the head is indeed not looking straight ahead, as it should.

I'll re-use a couple of images shot from different angles of the East Colossus in section 1...  What we have so far is an egg-faced head, possibly cocked to one side.  How does it hold there?  What holds it in place?  

It is important to remind ourselves that, in general mechanics, around the axis of rotation, it is not unusual to find circular shapes around axles or articulation that are circular.

Let's look for salient details, that should be easy, since anything that's not even vaguely ovoid should do.  I'll highlight the ones that are important for now, I'll try matching features using red, blue and green.

I am quite certain that anyone who takes the time can repeat this exercise with any decent picture of the East Colossus.  

Image 1:
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Highlights:
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Image 2:

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Highlights:

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The position of what looks like an arch, in red, matches the possible rotation of the head established earlier.   This is interesting, to say the least.  We can find very similar examples of similar articulations in our modern world.  

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Sources:
https://i1.wp.com/www.islamichistoryandtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/EGLVKDSC_0852-18.jpg
https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg]https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg
https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/483A60_AS01?hei=536&wid=536&$adapimg$=]https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/483A60_AS01?hei=536&wid=536&$adapimg$=

 

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If the East Collosus does not depict a human face, what could it be, then?

The most indicatve hint this could be a bird is the bulge of material stuck to our left side of the headdress.  It is quite clearly visible.

 

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This looks like a bit of skin has peeled off, and stayed stuck on the headdress before mineralization took place. It is even precisely located where one should expect to find trace of such en event.

I have circled in blue below what looks like a beak.  To make sure you have spotted it.

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This feature is present on all pictures of the object I've seen so far.  This bulky shape is very clearly defined.  Its precise location and scale is uncanny.  This makes it hard to dismiss.


Sources:

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/memnon-941576.jpg

https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg

 

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Let's have a close look at the top of the head, and see if we can find more details..

We'll concentrate on this area:
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This area is where the eyes should have been, so there should be some moving parts (or not, if this was really a statue).

In the image below, I've contoured in red, some of the most striking details...  They all have quite a mechanic look to them.  I've also applied a "sharpen" filter, so you can see better what I mean.  The top part of the image is the original, so you can compare.  

I've highlited in blue, some interesting features.  Those are located where the top of the eyeballs would have been. These would be in a good place to keep the eyeballs in place, or, maybe to animate the eyebrows, since falcons do have brows, and these would need to be somewhat animated to give the personage some life.

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Here it is again, with the sharpen filter applied to the entire area.

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This exercise is very easy to replicate with a good quality source image.  The one used here was picked pretty much at random.  I am always on the lookout for good aquality images of the Colossi, these are had to find on the Internet. If you have good quality pictures that you'd like to share, that would help greatly.
 

[source] https://indianvalleyscuba.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/p9131641.jpg

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I posted this elsewhere as an answer to a would-be troll.  This gives an idea of where this is going and what is to come, in time.  

I am past the initial discovery phase, and would not dare to be present this if there wasn't a mountain of evidence to back my claims. We will explore every square inch of these two. Legs, feet and torso are most interesting, since these two giants could stand and walk. There are also more of them on site at Memnon.

There is, in fact enough evidence to show this is a major discovery, that calls for more study by people much better trained than me.

Here's a small teaser of other objects I found, and are part of the pile of evidence I am only starting to present. Sorry for the slowness, but I do have a day job, and can only do one thing at a time.

This one could be either Sobek or Knuhm. Notice the stripes on the abdomen. All these very disctinctly different 'statues' at Memnon are officially of the same Amenhotep III. IMHO, that is completely insane, and insulting to our intelligence. Yours and mine included.

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There are also these 'utility' minor personae...
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that we can also find in Tanis, albeit in much worse shape, among other interesting and related remains.
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Detail. Notice the lower jaw is ripped out and hanging quite unnaturally on the neck. This thing was never a statue, just like the others found in Memnon. I will get to them after we've looked in detail at the two main characters.
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It is very possible that these robots (or avatars, who knows?) are much older than what we think of the Egypt of antiquity. But there is also evidence that some other well-known artefacts, like the Sphinx, might also be much older than what we're officially told.

[sources]
https://lisa.gerda-henkel-stiftung.de/conservation_work_at_the_temple_of_amenhotep_iii_at_thebes_by_the_colossi_of_memnon_and_amenhotep_iii_temple_conservation_project?nav_id=6722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfVZxp9H9WA

 

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