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On 8/26/2020 at 4:46 PM, allymisfit said:

This question had boggled me since childhood.

I think about it regularly and I still cannot fathom it..

 

Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading.

Where did other forces come from to exist in the first place?

 

I had to drop those questions in the end.

I also remember it literally boggling my mind as a kid. I used to deliberately lie in bed and make myself feel dizzy by imagining how endless space was. The idea that it is not inside anything and so vast and endless literally would make my head swoon and I would feel overwhelmed and it would happen every time I thought of it.  Ive since tried to recreate this feeling as an adult by thinking about space but nothing happens now. Something must change in the brain.

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On 8/26/2020 at 8:46 AM, allymisfit said:

Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading.

life is the search for perfection

each plant seeks to make better seed

each animal strives for more pleasure, less pain

 

humans are unique in our use of Mind energy

we can "see" it and use it consciously

your mind controls matter, each to their ability

meditation will increase your abilities

 

as conscious entities we are all heading toward perfection

the intuition is your guide

a personal relationship can be forged with it

 

in the future we are the 'perfect self'

we then communicate with our previous selfs through intuition

every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self

make sure to pay attention

 

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I cant explain it...but to me it is like a metamorphosis and manifestation of many things... For example when I look at the human hand and how it functions it is quite a masterpiece. It helps us interact, it grasps, it feels, it senses and its abilities come from the central source - the brain, that is powered by the heart. As is the case with all body parts. But then we have the mind... as we know all brains dont think the same....or feel the same emotions even though the construct is essentially the same.  So in regard to the universe...maybe there is a central 'brain' that is powered by a life giving source (heart)?  What they may look like or are is where I am lost. Possibly an all consuming power, frequency, energy (brain/mind) that needs a power supply .... whatever it is... it has more power than we have ever seen in our own little realities. The elements..air, fire earth and water have the ability to reduce everything to nothing... and maybe the energy behind it can bring back again, renew, recreate and manifest.

 

Excuse my rambling ... 

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21 minutes ago, killing raven sun said:

life is the search for perfection

each plant seeks to make better seed

each animal strives for more pleasure, less pain

 

humans are unique in our use of Mind energy

we can "see" it and use it consciously

your mind controls matter, each to their ability

meditation will increase your abilities

 

as conscious entities we are all heading toward perfection

the intuition is your guide

a personal relationship can be forged with it

 

in the future we are the 'perfect self'

we then communicate with our previous selfs through intuition

every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self

make sure to pay attention

 

Wow that's pretty interesting. Thanks 🙂

 

I look back on back comment and realise that was on a very bad head day. Some days I find it hard to comprehend my existence and purpose, I don't see the point anymore. 

 

However, this is insightful and provides the key to purpose. Thank you, Kiling raven sun! 

Definitely food for thought.

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51 minutes ago, allymisfit said:

Some days I find it hard to comprehend my existence and purpose, I don't see the point anymore. 

good.

 

the struggle to define your self is the best way to learn who you are

a lack of purpose can be liberating

meaning can get in the way of experiencing

when you feel out of sorts, forget everything and take a walk

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Killing raven sun you speak with much confidence that yours is the one truth? Care to elaborate how you got to this understanding? 

Going for a walk is solid advice 

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On 8/23/2020 at 6:17 PM, QuodHumana said:

I think the universe was always just there, no creator, no big bang. It was just always there. And will always be there.

 

Because we experience the world/universe in time through mind - we assume that the universe must adhere to this limitation of mind. It would be an assumption to say that there must be a starting and and ending point to the universe. We are anthropmorphising! It's like the goldfish in a bowl.

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9 minutes ago, Red pill taken said:

Killing raven sun you speak with much confidence that yours is the one truth? Care to elaborate how you got to this understanding? 

Going for a walk is solid advice 

by definition there is only one truth

it belongs to us all

 

knowing is an internal construct

i can explain what i know

but the knowing cannot be transferred

my journey is my journey

i leave stones along the way

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"we then communicate with our previous selves through intuition

every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self

make sure to pay attention"

 

:-0

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And why am I perfect in the future? This implies that I am less than perfect now, even define perfect? From my personal experience perfect does not exist, theres always something, its like a dog chasing its tail.

 

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the paradise machine was a consciously constructed orbit of planets around the sun

at the time saturn was more like a red dwarf star, with a large plasma envelope

all the planets were inside the red discharge

 

the arrangement of the planets was designed to produce ideal life support on Earth

the soft red glow helped plants grow and also precipitated organic compounds

there was always light, no day or night and no noticeable weather

 

the close alignment of the spheres reduced Earth gravity significantly

this allowed the flora and fauna to reach sizes not possible today

Earth was also shielded from the solar wind and cosmic rays by saturns glow

this reduced radiation damage (to dna and telomeres, ect.) to nearly zero

 

descriptions of the machine are rare, Earth humans did not build it

but the myths of man describe a 'golden age' and a 'garden of eden'

after which came much suffering and turmoil

 

the various megalithic structures around the world are the last remains of this time

none of them were built by Earth humans

they were built by 'gods' that came from the 'heavens'

these 'gods' built the pyramids that are scattered about the Earth

part of the machine that kept the planets properly aligned

 

according to the old tales, there was a war in heaven

some 'gods' chose to stay on Earth while others fled

in the end the war destroyed the planetary machinery

and the gods died or abandoned the Earth

 

for thousands of years man lived under a crumbling sky

as the planets fell out of their arranged orbits they 'fought' with each other

raining rocks and debris down on Earth

 

the story of armageddon is of the last great catastrophe

"a new heavens and a new Earth"

this is when the megalithic cities were destroyed

humans fled to caves to avoid constant rock fall

very few survived

 

scientists call this event the 'younger dryas'

around 12,500 years ago

 

those that lived through the event were obsessed with the sky

making calendars and star charts

whole societies were devoted to appeasing the 'sky gods'

some ceremonies were timed with Earths passing through a debis field

begging the god(s) to not rain rock and fire on them

 

eventually the planets found stable orbits and the disasters became infrequent

man began to multiply and emerged from the caves

the 'sky religions' lost their purpose and fell out of use

various traditions were repurposed as social controls

religion became government

 

this is what i know

i will not debate the veracity of my words

i will answer questions if i can

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That Indeed is quite impressive, but you talk of waring gods, who died off so not really gods then as you put it yourself they died! And pretty sure the most common depiction across the religions of a god is  omnipotent? 

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'god' is an ambiguous term

i dont believe anything

i prefer to know

i know there is no god such as the christian 'god'

the gods were mere material beings

they had a much better understanding of unversal energy flow

so they appeared to be all powerful

the vedic gods are more realistic beings

and the norse gods all died in ragnarok

 

christianity is a newcomer on the religious scene

it is a patchwork of borrowed tradition

its only purpose is to enslave the minds of man

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On 8/23/2020 at 6:17 PM, QuodHumana said:

I think the universe was always just there, no creator, no big bang. It was just always there. And will always be there.

 

I agree it's always been there and there's no creator.

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On 8/24/2020 at 4:49 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

 

It has to go somewhere. Perhaps the 'other side' of a black hole is a new universe going through it's own 'big bang'?

 

 

 

 

 

Could be, sounds plausible.

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On 8/24/2020 at 5:46 PM, Carlos said:

 

The thing about matter as it is labelled is that nothing that makes it up is solid. None of the atoms or the subatomic particles including - quarks, leptons, fermions etc. have anything within them except movement. There's no teeny piece of "something" solid at the heart of them.

 

So basically everything you see is simply movement. If you google "what is a subatomic particle made of" - nobody will actually answer it. They just give all sorts of variants of particles within an atom but never explain what the actual particle itself is made of.

 

It's made of nothing. Just movement. 

 

Example: What is a lepton made of?

"In particle physics, a lepton is an elementary particle of half-integer spin (spin ¹⁄₂) that does not undergo strong interactions. Two main classes of leptons exist, charged leptons (also known as the electron-like leptons), and neutral leptons (better known as neutrinos). Charged leptons can combine with other particles to form various composite particles such as atoms and positronium, while neutrinos rarely interact with anything, and are consequently rarely observed. The best known of all leptons is the electron."

 

Okie dokie. What's it actually made of though? 🤓

 

 

Yeahhhh-- what it's made of is a mystery!

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On 8/26/2020 at 4:46 PM, allymisfit said:

This question had boggled me since childhood.

I think about it regularly and I still cannot fathom it..

 

Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading.

Where did other forces come from to exist in the first place?

 

I had to drop those questions in the end.

 

I think in of itself life has no intrinsic meaning, it just is. Why would a "creator" create physical life that is designed to get ill, age and die, carnivorous ones that eat other beings, etc; it makes no sense to create beings that suffer.  It's just random. There's no creator; it's illogical.

 

The meaning of life if there is one, is what one personally makes of it such as some people are wonderful singers and entertain others, some write fiction, some create inventions to make physical life easier and so on.

 

Edited by itsnotallrightjack

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I reckon with that last statement that could be the best way to describe why.. its what you do with your circle of life. But I think you could miss out on a lot by not thinking its by intelligent design.. just look at the human body- superb piece of kit, yep stuff eats other stuff etc but always comes back to balance ,  you cant have light without dark, but from what I tell it seems to be pink! 

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On 9/16/2020 at 9:16 PM, Problem child said:

I also remember it literally boggling my mind as a kid. I used to deliberately lie in bed and make myself feel dizzy by imagining how endless space was. The idea that it is not inside anything and so vast and endless literally would make my head swoon and I would feel overwhelmed and it would happen every time I thought of it.  Ive since tried to recreate this feeling as an adult by thinking about space but nothing happens now. Something must change in the brain.

 

Same here with me, and it still has that same effect on  my mind if I sit and think about it. My brain cannot fathom that eternity, endlessness! We physical beings have a beginning and an end so it's hard for us to imagine the concept of forever/no end/endlessness.

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