Problem child Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 4:46 PM, allymisfit said: This question had boggled me since childhood. I think about it regularly and I still cannot fathom it.. Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading. Where did other forces come from to exist in the first place? I had to drop those questions in the end. I also remember it literally boggling my mind as a kid. I used to deliberately lie in bed and make myself feel dizzy by imagining how endless space was. The idea that it is not inside anything and so vast and endless literally would make my head swoon and I would feel overwhelmed and it would happen every time I thought of it. Ive since tried to recreate this feeling as an adult by thinking about space but nothing happens now. Something must change in the brain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 8:46 AM, allymisfit said: Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading. life is the search for perfection each plant seeks to make better seed each animal strives for more pleasure, less pain humans are unique in our use of Mind energy we can "see" it and use it consciously your mind controls matter, each to their ability meditation will increase your abilities as conscious entities we are all heading toward perfection the intuition is your guide a personal relationship can be forged with it in the future we are the 'perfect self' we then communicate with our previous selfs through intuition every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self make sure to pay attention 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I cant explain it...but to me it is like a metamorphosis and manifestation of many things... For example when I look at the human hand and how it functions it is quite a masterpiece. It helps us interact, it grasps, it feels, it senses and its abilities come from the central source - the brain, that is powered by the heart. As is the case with all body parts. But then we have the mind... as we know all brains dont think the same....or feel the same emotions even though the construct is essentially the same. So in regard to the universe...maybe there is a central 'brain' that is powered by a life giving source (heart)? What they may look like or are is where I am lost. Possibly an all consuming power, frequency, energy (brain/mind) that needs a power supply .... whatever it is... it has more power than we have ever seen in our own little realities. The elements..air, fire earth and water have the ability to reduce everything to nothing... and maybe the energy behind it can bring back again, renew, recreate and manifest. Excuse my rambling ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, killing raven sun said: life is the search for perfection each plant seeks to make better seed each animal strives for more pleasure, less pain humans are unique in our use of Mind energy we can "see" it and use it consciously your mind controls matter, each to their ability meditation will increase your abilities as conscious entities we are all heading toward perfection the intuition is your guide a personal relationship can be forged with it in the future we are the 'perfect self' we then communicate with our previous selfs through intuition every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self make sure to pay attention Wow that's pretty interesting. Thanks I look back on back comment and realise that was on a very bad head day. Some days I find it hard to comprehend my existence and purpose, I don't see the point anymore. However, this is insightful and provides the key to purpose. Thank you, Kiling raven sun! Definitely food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Some days I find it hard to comprehend my existence and purpose, I don't see the point anymore. good. the struggle to define your self is the best way to learn who you are a lack of purpose can be liberating meaning can get in the way of experiencing when you feel out of sorts, forget everything and take a walk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Killing raven sun you speak with much confidence that yours is the one truth? Care to elaborate how you got to this understanding? Going for a walk is solid advice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 6:17 PM, QuodHumana said: I think the universe was always just there, no creator, no big bang. It was just always there. And will always be there. Because we experience the world/universe in time through mind - we assume that the universe must adhere to this limitation of mind. It would be an assumption to say that there must be a starting and and ending point to the universe. We are anthropmorphising! It's like the goldfish in a bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Red pill taken said: Killing raven sun you speak with much confidence that yours is the one truth? Care to elaborate how you got to this understanding? Going for a walk is solid advice by definition there is only one truth it belongs to us all knowing is an internal construct i can explain what i know but the knowing cannot be transferred my journey is my journey i leave stones along the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 OK explain away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 it would be difficult at best to explain the entire universe my physical body wont last that long perhaps you have a specific question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 OK whats the paradise machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 "we then communicate with our previous selves through intuition every thing that happens to you is a message from the future perfect self make sure to pay attention" :-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 But there is much talk that tomorrow never comes its always now, if the future was set there would be no point partaking in the present? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 And why am I perfect in the future? This implies that I am less than perfect now, even define perfect? From my personal experience perfect does not exist, theres always something, its like a dog chasing its tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 the paradise machine was a consciously constructed orbit of planets around the sun at the time saturn was more like a red dwarf star, with a large plasma envelope all the planets were inside the red discharge the arrangement of the planets was designed to produce ideal life support on Earth the soft red glow helped plants grow and also precipitated organic compounds there was always light, no day or night and no noticeable weather the close alignment of the spheres reduced Earth gravity significantly this allowed the flora and fauna to reach sizes not possible today Earth was also shielded from the solar wind and cosmic rays by saturns glow this reduced radiation damage (to dna and telomeres, ect.) to nearly zero descriptions of the machine are rare, Earth humans did not build it but the myths of man describe a 'golden age' and a 'garden of eden' after which came much suffering and turmoil the various megalithic structures around the world are the last remains of this time none of them were built by Earth humans they were built by 'gods' that came from the 'heavens' these 'gods' built the pyramids that are scattered about the Earth part of the machine that kept the planets properly aligned according to the old tales, there was a war in heaven some 'gods' chose to stay on Earth while others fled in the end the war destroyed the planetary machinery and the gods died or abandoned the Earth for thousands of years man lived under a crumbling sky as the planets fell out of their arranged orbits they 'fought' with each other raining rocks and debris down on Earth the story of armageddon is of the last great catastrophe "a new heavens and a new Earth" this is when the megalithic cities were destroyed humans fled to caves to avoid constant rock fall very few survived scientists call this event the 'younger dryas' around 12,500 years ago those that lived through the event were obsessed with the sky making calendars and star charts whole societies were devoted to appeasing the 'sky gods' some ceremonies were timed with Earths passing through a debis field begging the god(s) to not rain rock and fire on them eventually the planets found stable orbits and the disasters became infrequent man began to multiply and emerged from the caves the 'sky religions' lost their purpose and fell out of use various traditions were repurposed as social controls religion became government this is what i know i will not debate the veracity of my words i will answer questions if i can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 That Indeed is quite impressive, but you talk of waring gods, who died off so not really gods then as you put it yourself they died! And pretty sure the most common depiction across the religions of a god is omnipotent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing raven sun Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 'god' is an ambiguous term i dont believe anything i prefer to know i know there is no god such as the christian 'god' the gods were mere material beings they had a much better understanding of unversal energy flow so they appeared to be all powerful the vedic gods are more realistic beings and the norse gods all died in ragnarok christianity is a newcomer on the religious scene it is a patchwork of borrowed tradition its only purpose is to enslave the minds of man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 6:17 PM, QuodHumana said: I think the universe was always just there, no creator, no big bang. It was just always there. And will always be there. I agree it's always been there and there's no creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 4:49 PM, Grumpy Owl said: It has to go somewhere. Perhaps the 'other side' of a black hole is a new universe going through it's own 'big bang'? Could be, sounds plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 5:46 PM, Carlos said: The thing about matter as it is labelled is that nothing that makes it up is solid. None of the atoms or the subatomic particles including - quarks, leptons, fermions etc. have anything within them except movement. There's no teeny piece of "something" solid at the heart of them. So basically everything you see is simply movement. If you google "what is a subatomic particle made of" - nobody will actually answer it. They just give all sorts of variants of particles within an atom but never explain what the actual particle itself is made of. It's made of nothing. Just movement. Example: What is a lepton made of? "In particle physics, a lepton is an elementary particle of half-integer spin (spin ¹⁄₂) that does not undergo strong interactions. Two main classes of leptons exist, charged leptons (also known as the electron-like leptons), and neutral leptons (better known as neutrinos). Charged leptons can combine with other particles to form various composite particles such as atoms and positronium, while neutrinos rarely interact with anything, and are consequently rarely observed. The best known of all leptons is the electron." Okie dokie. What's it actually made of though? Yeahhhh-- what it's made of is a mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) On 8/26/2020 at 4:46 PM, allymisfit said: This question had boggled me since childhood. I think about it regularly and I still cannot fathom it.. Why? What's the purpose in general existence? Who are we? Where are we, where are we heading. Where did other forces come from to exist in the first place? I had to drop those questions in the end. I think in of itself life has no intrinsic meaning, it just is. Why would a "creator" create physical life that is designed to get ill, age and die, carnivorous ones that eat other beings, etc; it makes no sense to create beings that suffer. It's just random. There's no creator; it's illogical. The meaning of life if there is one, is what one personally makes of it such as some people are wonderful singers and entertain others, some write fiction, some create inventions to make physical life easier and so on. Edited September 17, 2020 by itsnotallrightjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I reckon with that last statement that could be the best way to describe why.. its what you do with your circle of life. But I think you could miss out on a lot by not thinking its by intelligent design.. just look at the human body- superb piece of kit, yep stuff eats other stuff etc but always comes back to balance , you cant have light without dark, but from what I tell it seems to be pink! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 9:16 PM, Problem child said: I also remember it literally boggling my mind as a kid. I used to deliberately lie in bed and make myself feel dizzy by imagining how endless space was. The idea that it is not inside anything and so vast and endless literally would make my head swoon and I would feel overwhelmed and it would happen every time I thought of it. Ive since tried to recreate this feeling as an adult by thinking about space but nothing happens now. Something must change in the brain. Same here with me, and it still has that same effect on my mind if I sit and think about it. My brain cannot fathom that eternity, endlessness! We physical beings have a beginning and an end so it's hard for us to imagine the concept of forever/no end/endlessness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 A proton slipped out of the matrix in another universe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaz Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 7:17 PM, QuodHumana said: I think the universe was always just there, no creator, no big bang. It was just always there. And will always be there. In a state of dynamic (Hoyle Steady-State Universe Hypothesis) or static (Paint-Dry Hypothesis) equilibrium..? hopefully the former.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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