wideawake Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 How many times was the end of the world predicted? Yet, we're still here but now according to AJ, it is going to be in 2050. I guess I should believe him now because of the scamdemic and everyone is dying now so it must be true this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXPCalledJeff Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, oz93666 said: How is this going to help anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lot's of venom directed towards AJ from the many new comers ...I've been regularly listening to him since before 2000 , he is the most important figure in the truth movement ... Just now, wideawake said: How many times was the end of the world predicted? Yet, we're still here but now according to AJ, it is going to be in 2050. I guess I should believe him now because of the scamdemic and everyone is dying now so it must be true this time. AJ is predicting nothing . He is covering how Gates is telling people "there's no way back to a normal life ... the virus will not end" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, AXPCalledJeff said: How is this going to help anyone? How do you think ??? When the economy crashes ...a virtual certainty according to DI ...dole money won't buy enough food ... marauding mutant immigrants have looted all the supermarkets , they'll then go house to house looking for food ... Nothing is certain but I'll give this scenario 50% chance of happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXPCalledJeff Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I am capable of surviving without using violence. Plus I will never allow fear to run my life and manipulate my thoughts. Good luck to you, I hope you will find inner peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, oz93666 said: Lot's of venom directed towards AJ from the many new comers ...I've been regularly listening to him since before 2000 , he is the most important figure in the truth movement ... AJ is predicting nothing . He is covering how Gates is telling people "there's no way back to a normal life ... the virus will not end" I might be a new comer on this site but not to alternative news and especially to AJ. In my opinion, Alex Jones is not the most important figure in the truth movement and I even suspect him (no proof) of spreading propaganda for others. I can't stand someone supposedly telling you the "truth" and yelling at the same time unlike DI who uses common sense when dealing with an issue. AJ is trying really hard to convince people that he's the real deal and it looks like it's working since you think "he's the most important figure in the truth movement". Believe what you want but he sure doesn't appear to me as the real deal, he's in for the money like most of them and pushes and agenda that isn't his own. Btw, did you purchase one of his masks yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lore Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, oz93666 said: Lot's of venom directed towards AJ from the many new comers ...I've been regularly listening to him since before 2000 , he is the most important figure in the truth movement ... AJ is predicting nothing . He is covering how Gates is telling people "there's no way back to a normal life ... the virus will not end" Billy and Melly do this all the time, they tell people how it’s going to be, (how they want it to be) whilst using their power and wealth to covertly create their depopulation reality. The subsequent belief of millions of people, with help from MSM, enables them to achieve their nefarious agenda. If folk en masse state ‘no, you are wrong’, it simply will not happen. In fearfully believing in people like Jones, adding energy to his hysteria and giving your free-will to it, you add weight for their agenda to occur... Erm and just because you listen to someone for twenty years, doesn't make it ultimate truth, why are your views more accurate than those who have recently joined the forum? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Lore said: Billy and Melly do this all the time, they tell people how it’s going to be, (how they want it to be) whilst using their power and wealth to covertly create their depopulation reality. The subsequent belief of millions of people, with help from MSM, enables them to achieve their nefarious agenda. If folk en masse state ‘no, you are wrong’, it simply will not happen. In fearfully believing in people like Jones, adding energy to his hysteria and giving your free-will to it, you add weight for their agenda to occur... Erm and just because you listen to someone for twenty years, doesn't make it ultimate truth, why are your views more accurate than those who have recently joined the forum? There's something to what you say .... But hasn't David Icke been doing exactly the same thing for 20 years , warning cameras are going up everywhere , a police state is coming ...1984 Both AJ and DI realize these are only PLANs the controllers have , and depend on us doing nothing .... AJ often gets frustrated because he doesn't know what to do to shake people out of their trance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lore Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Haha, I find it very difficult to listen to AJ’s shouting for more than a minute I guess what I’m trying to explain is that, yes maybe even DI can cause us to feel fearful when we realise all we're up against, but Fear is the opposite of Love. We will not overcome evil by fearing it, but by responding with love to every situation we find ourselves in, otherwise we feed the evil. You talk of praying for help to save us, but has it occurred to you that maybe the Divine is already intervening, working with millions of human prayers, intersessions and free will over decades and continuing now? This possibility has been presented a lot on the forum and @elliot has posted another interesting video on this… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Windows 10 was the end of privacy in desktop computing, so Bill probably knows what he is talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 bill gates will be getting executed soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuZu Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 hours ago, oz93666 said: Lot's of venom directed towards AJ from the many new comers ...I've been regularly listening to him since before 2000 , he is the most important figure in the truth movement ... I've been listening to him since 1998. Unbelievably believed he was the real deal until 2010. The guys a Zionist controlled hack. Alternative media has been hijacked by Nationalist movements and political activists controlled by Zionists. He openly defends Benjamin Netanyahu. And helped get the biggest Zionist President since Trumen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seeker Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 hours ago, oz93666 said: I think Alex and David are planning to go down with the ship ... don't want to desert all their followers by running out ... Alex did say in that video , if he was thinking of only his personal survival he would get somewhere very remote and build a secure underground shelter ....although (he said) the killer drones would eventually even find these people .... The point is these people will be the last to go .... We have to believe we can turn this all around ..... Maybe 5 Billion will die before those left alive will Pray intently enough for the Divine realm to intercede and stop the madness .... When people are in dire peril they instinctively Pray , we have to hope this will do it. The elite know they can’t kill Alex Jones because he will still be alive in 11 other dimensions! In all seriousness I understand his stance because if we run and hide like he said, they will eventually pick us off one at a time, and as for praying for divine intervention, it will take something drastic for people to think, well praying is my last hope, that’s when I imagine divine intervention will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasmina Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 hours ago, oz93666 said: Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Jones is cointelpro (counter intelligence program) which is why he "spells out" and "gets" so much of this stuff, because he is being provided information. Of course he also sees it too because he has been doing it for so long but make no mistake about it, he is a high level gatekeeper. You will always know a gatekeeper in the Truth community because they will never touch two topics, one: the UFO and alien topic, and advanced propulsion, and other aerospace and military industrial complex material, and two: secret societies. William Cooper exposed Jones back in the 90's. Cooper talked about the UFO craft he saw while on watch while he was in the US Navy aboard a submarine, and then later he spent a lot of time talking about freemasonry and the "Mystery schools". Years later Cooper ended up being shot by the local Sheriff or FBI literally on his front porch. I'm not saying to not watch Jones but just saying to be cautious of him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thanks for the link Oz. In my view he puts out good information and I like Oz have been following him for years. If he is not your bag so be it. I think maybe because I am british i find his american delivery amusing, and it may be part of the attraction. I also find him extremely funny. He is probably an actor, which makes me laugh that a lot of the snowflakes got him banned, along with the mainstream media and very high up people. I think the majority here slagging him off are just humourless meat goblems, same ones who cant see that trump is one of the good guys, and the same ones who full for every crackpot conspiracy. I remember getting a topic deleted back in 2010 on the old forum for critising one of Davids fellow truthers when i wrote a critical piece on Alex Jones. Funny how things change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Messenger said: Jones is cointelpro (counter intelligence program) which is why he "spells out" and "gets" so much of this stuff, because he is being provided information. Of course he also sees it too because he has been doing it for so long but make no mistake about it, he is a high level gatekeeper. You will always know a gatekeeper in the Truth community because they will never touch two topics, one: the UFO and alien topic, and advanced propulsion, and other aerospace and military industrial complex material, and two: secret societies. 1) The U.S. is a country with an Education System so thoroughly SABOTAGED that the average American has to have everything "spelled out" to them. Many Americans have been made to memorize a few very simple slogans ("Capitalism is the highest good", "all Middle-Easterners are dangerous maniacs", "The U.S. government and U.S. Companies are looking out for you") and know little about the world beyond that. That's why AJ "shouts truth" at them. 2) Alex Jones spent YEARS talking about Secret Societies from SKULL AND BONES and the FREEMASONS to the ILLUMINATI and the WEIRDOS WHO GATHER AT BOHEMIAN GROVE. And I'm fairly sure that I have heard him speak about UFOs and SECRET TECHNOLOGIES as well. Why doesn't he DWELL ON THOSE? Because the U.S. MAINSTREAM MEDIA WOULD CORNER HIM AS "THAT UFO/ALIENS GUY". He talks about a lot of secret stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Messenger said: Jones is cointelpro (counter intelligence program) which is why he "spells out" and "gets" so much of this stuff, because he is being provided information. Of course he also sees it too because he has been doing it for so long but make no mistake about it, he is a high level gatekeeper. You will always know a gatekeeper in the Truth community because they will never touch two topics, one: the UFO and alien topic, and advanced propulsion, and other aerospace and military industrial complex material, and two: secret societies. William Cooper exposed Jones back in the 90's. Cooper talked about the UFO craft he saw while on watch while he was in the US Navy aboard a submarine, and then later he spent a lot of time talking about freemasonry and the "Mystery schools". Years later Cooper ended up being shot by the local Sheriff or FBI literally on his front porch. I'm not saying to not watch Jones but just saying to be cautious of him. Thank you, you hit it right on the nail and I couldn't've spit it out any better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Lore said: .....even DI can cause us to feel fearful when we realise all we're up against, but Fear is the opposite of Love. We will not overcome evil by fearing it, but by responding with love to every situation we find ourselves in, otherwise we feed the evil. Who's invoking fear ??? ...AJ and others and myself are just describing what is probably coming ...Fear is no part of my reality , because I'm SAFE (relatively) ... If this truth causes fear in the listener it can only be because they are NOT Safe ... their body wisdom is sending a fear experience to get their attention together with a message ..."take practical action to ensure continued life" ... Get out of cities , get self-sufficient! 14 hours ago, Lore said: You talk of praying for help to save us, but has it occurred to you that maybe the Divine is already intervening, working with millions of human prayers..... Sure that's true , but apparently not enough people are praying yet , since things are getting worse ... We are in a race to get more onboard . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said: 1) The U.S. is a country with an Education System so thoroughly SABOTAGED that the average American has to have everything "spelled out" to them. Many Americans have been made to memorize a few very simple slogans ("Capitalism is the highest good", "all Middle-Easterners are dangerous maniacs", "The U.S. government and U.S. Companies are looking out for you") and know little about the world beyond that. That's why AJ "shouts truth" at them. 2) Alex Jones spent YEARS talking about Secret Societies from SKULL AND BONES and the FREEMASONS to the ILLUMINATI and the WEIRDOS WHO GATHER AT BOHEMIAN GROVE. And I'm fairly sure that I have heard him speak about UFOs and SECRET TECHNOLOGIES as well. Why doesn't he DWELL ON THOSE? Because the U.S. MAINSTREAM MEDIA WOULD CORNER HIM AS "THAT UFO/ALIENS GUY". He talks about a lot of secret stuff. History, regarding the school system, actually that's the opposite of what schools are teaching these days which is that capitalism is bad, and that we should adopt socialism, which is why over the past five to ten years we have seen Antifa seemingly come from no where and all these hipster millennial kids loathe capitalism, even though many of them work for the largest corporations, which seems quite hypocritical to me.. Antifa may have gone back further than 2015 but in '15 they were causing trouble at California's UC Berkley and Davis campus if I recall correctly. They are getting funding somehow and it seems to lead back to George Soros and the left. I haven't seen any of Jones' content in years so I don't know what he is putting out now but I did watch him years ago, like ten years ago, when he was talking about the bilderbergs and the federal reserve, but I noticed a change in him shortly after that, his content became more sensationalist baiting people's emotions by showing police brutality, and racial issues, rather than focusing on exposing the corruption in each industry. One video I have seen is where a group of people were having a peaceful protest and Jones' walks up with his bullhorn and starts shouting into it, totally taking over the protest and turning it into something it wasn't. He did expose Bohemian Grove, but how could a place that has that type of event have such lax security? Maybe Jones was allowed to "expose" the cremation of care ceremony. He has never delved into UFO stuff that I am aware of, maybe he mentioned it a few times here and there but he certainly does not interview people. He seemed to stick mainly to the political shit-show of left vs right, red vs blue, which is exactly where the controllers want people's mind to remain. I'm just saying to be careful with him, don't put him on a pedestal because he really hasn't exposed stuff that many of us are not already aware of. He's a good stepping stone for those who are just beginning to awake, but beyond that there comes a point where a person needs to move beyond his content, at least that's what I found. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lore Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 9 hours ago, oz93666 said: Who's invoking fear ??? ...AJ and others and myself are just describing what is probably coming ...Fear is no part of my reality , because I'm SAFE (relatively) ... If this truth causes fear in the listener it can only be because they are NOT Safe ... their body wisdom is sending a fear experience to get their attention together with a message ..."take practical action to ensure continued life" ... Get out of cities , get self-sufficient! Well, believing what AJ says will happen, and continually warning everyone about an inevitable doomsday outcome; is actually invoking fear. DI does not do this, he has given us useful warnings about all that has been planned for us, but it is my understanding that his message is encouraging humanity to react in a totally new way. Experiencing our lives differently from how our controllers want/expect us to react, with compassion, inclusivity and kindness to all humanity. I’ll try to explain myself properly: ok , so a concrete bunker, land and a food supply is all well and good if you are enjoying a happy life there, but that is not safe, that is a defensive position. You may be the last survivor in a shtf scenario, but that is still not safe. If and when it comes to your envisioned future, will you help the surrounding villergers who come to you seeking food and shelter, or use the ‘cattle prod thingy you’ve made to push them away? And when you think about them being attacked while you are in your safe bunker, how will you feel? Would you not feel it would be better to invite them in, share your food and shelter and join with other humans in defiance of your attackers? The cabal have technology and plans to produce insect size killer drones, to make it easy for them to control any and all the human population. There will be nowhere on earth left to hide if that scenario is allowed to occur. The answer therefore is not in running away and ‘every man for himself’, it is in humanity joining together to no longer feed the ‘monster’ which has basically grown out of money, ursury, banking. It can only function with our energy feeding it, whether that is our hard work, taxes, consumerism, or the negative energy of greed, violence, guilt, shame, anger, despair, blame etc. Humanity is actually paying for and supporting its own prison system. WE have the power to withdraw our consent, finances, energy, beliefs and emotions from the system, so it has no power to implement their pre-planned slavery of humanity, because we would not be paying for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Lore said: Well, believing what AJ says will happen, and continually warning everyone about an inevitable doomsday outcome; is actually invoking fear. DI does not do this, he has given us useful warnings about all that has been planned for us, but it is my understanding that his message is encouraging humanity to react in a totally new way. Experiencing our lives differently from how our controllers want/expect us to react, with compassion, inclusivity and kindness to all humanity. I’ll try to explain myself properly: ok , so a concrete bunker, land and a food supply is all well and good if you are enjoying a happy life there, but that is not safe, that is a defensive position. You may be the last survivor in a shtf scenario, but that is still not safe. If and when it comes to your envisioned future, will you help the surrounding villergers who come to you seeking food and shelter, or use the ‘cattle prod thingy you’ve made to push them away? And when you think about them being attacked while you are in your safe bunker, how will you feel? Would you not feel it would be better to invite them in, share your food and shelter and join with other humans in defiance of your attackers? The cabal have technology and plans to produce insect size killer drones, to make it easy for them to control any and all the human population. There will be nowhere on earth left to hide if that scenario is allowed to occur. The answer therefore is not in running away and ‘every man for himself’, it is in humanity joining together to no longer feed the ‘monster’ which has basically grown out of money, ursury, banking. It can only function with our energy feeding it, whether that is our hard work, taxes, consumerism, or the negative energy of greed, violence, guilt, shame, anger, despair, blame etc. Humanity is actually paying for and supporting its own prison system. WE have the power to withdraw our consent, finances, energy, beliefs and emotions from the system, so it has no power to implement their pre-planned slavery of humanity, because we would not be paying for it. You remember that Simpsons episode Lore ??? A comet was going to crash into the Earth , and Ned Flanders was the only one who had a bunker ... Well first Homer and family came knocking , and he let them in ... then the whole town turned up ... being a good christian he had to let them in ... It was pretty crowded , not enough air for everybody .. I think they noticed Ned was breathing heavy , using up too much air , so they voted Ned had to leave and they kicked him out.... I would probably have retired here even if the apocalypse wasn't coming ... who wan'ts to grow old in England? So I sold up and came over here with a big sac of cash .... found a nice Thai lady who's more than happy to take care of me ,(and take care of the cash) , do all the shopping and other boring things .... So I'm very happy here , more than I was in the UK ... I have said many times , everyone's welcome, we have a massive piece of land with river in a remote area ... you can live free , build a bungalow from bamboo or whatever you want , food growing all around , and paid work if you want it .... but if you want a bunker , you have to build your own .... Edited August 20, 2020 by oz93666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 8:45 AM, AXPCalledJeff said: Reading some of the comments here, to be honest I'm a bit shocked. To compare Alex Jones with David Icke? Alex Jones is just a loud mouth, a disgusting piece of self serving American showmanship, in my opinion. And Bill Gates wants to cull the world population? Yeah, pretty much and he is not alone in this, thanks Alex for once again stating the obvious after dozens of people already did it before you. Plus ever seen one of his "interviews"? He constantly rants and doesn't allow his speakers to actually talk. Wich makes sense since next to him everyone looks and sounds like a frikking genius. The only good thing he ever did, if he actually did it, is filming the "elite summercamp" at Bohemian Grove years back. Other than that he is just an idiot who has no talent. And playing the Jesus card, please. Is there seriously anyone with common sense who thinks religion is going to SAVE us?! It is for a big part because of religion we are in this mess! Good post. Not sure I'd be using that bohemian grove vid as a beacon of investigative journalism though mate. To me that vid shows him to be shill/controlled opposition/gatekeeper even more. Think about it? He'd only have been allowed to take that vid and then share it if it was in the interests of tptb. Same as the over the top sensationalist censorship shown to him. "Look at what happend to the king CT, now all you plebs fall in line" All in my opinion of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 9:07 AM, oz93666 said: Lot's of venom directed towards AJ from the many new comers ...I've been regularly listening to him since before 2000 , he is the most important figure in the truth movement ... AJ is predicting nothing . He is covering how Gates is telling people "there's no way back to a normal life ... the virus will not end" AJ is certainly not the most important figure in the truth movement. Maybe to more impressionable souls maybe. Prey tell me his thoughts on our Zionist overlords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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