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Ah. So this goes back to 2015 when I was pregnant. I was advised to take a vaccine (I can't even remember which one it was) and having been so stupidly nieve at the time, I opted for it. Believing it was protecting my baby.

The nurse wasn't particularly nice either. 

 

Anyway, fast forward 5 years and I have been suffering from chronic fatigue most of this time.

The vaccine I got still has the mark and it's not the BCG as I got that at school.

The mark is constantly red with dilated capillaries around it. 

Sometimes it kinda flares up and is very bumpy to the touch compared to when it isn't.

The fatigue and these go hand in hand I've discovered (after years of wondering why).

I tried every vitamin, supplement, healthy diet..you name it. I was vegetarian for years and I struggled terribly with anaemia. I ate meat to cope with it, I was beyond pale (I'm already the palest lass in Scotland. I didn't think it was possible!)

 

My health has gone down the hill so much since that.

My joints flare up badly also. I just feel crap 24/7

 

I truly do believe that vaccine caused this and I'm so angry I fell for their lies!

 

 

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Let this be a warning to all ... 

 

Important to understand they do not just lace  vaccines with one toxin ... many different things ...

 

Vaccines for third world may have things which sterilize  or  give polio ...

 

In the west Thmerosol is a favorite , causes reduced IQ in all .... sensitive victims get autism /ADD etc 

 

This way it can go undetected ... if everyone taking a jab got chronic fatigue people might put two and two together 

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There are oil based adjuvants used in many vaccines.  The most popular is called squalene.  First used on American Marines in the first Gulf War in experimental anthrax vaccines, it caused what was dubbed “Gulf War Syndrome.”

 

Book: Vaccine A by Gary Matsumoto
 

Gulf War Syndrome really is a slew of autoimmune diseases and disorders where the body’s immune system attacks its own cells.  “Some general symptoms experienced by the soldiers were:  aching joints, muscles, rashes, fatigue, weight loss/gain, hair loss, sore gums, diarrhea, nausea, swelling of extremities, short-term memory loss, and headaches.”
 

“The oil based adjuvants either cause hyperactivity of the immune system, creating chaos, or cause a specific reaction due to its close resemblance to oils found in the body.”
 

Arthritis, inflammation of joints, can be treated with several natural remedies.  Can’t say which would be most effective.  Wish the vegetarian diet helped.   I heard a vegan diet can alleviate arthritis.  I’m sure you have or do use vitamin D3.
 

https://www.naturalnews.com/search.asp?query=Arthritis+

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Michi713 said:

There are oil based adjuvants used in many vaccines.  The most popular is called squalene.  First used on American Marines in the first Gulf War in experimental anthrax vaccines, it caused what was dubbed “Gulf War Syndrome.”

 

Book: Vaccine A by Gary Matsumoto
 

Gulf War Syndrome really is a slew of autoimmune diseases and disorders where the body’s immune system attacks its own cells.  “Some general symptoms experienced by the soldiers were:  aching joints, muscles, rashes, fatigue, weight loss/gain, hair loss, sore gums, diarrhea, nausea, swelling of extremities, short-term memory loss, and headaches.”
 

“The oil based adjuvants either cause hyperactivity of the immune system, creating chaos, or cause a specific reaction due to its close resemblance to oils found in the body.”
 

Arthritis, inflammation of joints, can be treated with several natural remedies.  Can’t say which would be most effective.  Wish the vegetarian diet helped.   I heard a vegan diet can alleviate arthritis.  I’m sure you have or do use vitamin D3.
 

https://www.naturalnews.com/search.asp?query=Arthritis+

 

 

Wow thank you so much!!!

 

You got it all down to a T.

Memory loss has been such a problem, I put it down to "baby brain".

 

I'll give the vegan diet a go again. I tried it before but my willpower is atrocious. 

 

It's so disturbing to find out the truth. 

My partner said our daughter was never the same after each vaccine and that's when I started to look in to it.

 

What a mad, mad world..

 

Thanks again 🙂

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34 minutes ago, shabbirss said:

@allymisfit
sorry, i dont know any for the fatigue your experiencing.
for the hayfever, well, i just wash my face for like 5mins straight with cold water when the sneezing fits happen. - that helps.
other than that, i don't take or do anything lol.

Ooh that's a good idea re the cold water.

It's been a heavy season for the old allergies eh.

Hope you feel better soon!

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I'm not going to say that this will cure you but it may help and its free to try......

 

Whether it's true or not that the vaccine is the causal link for your lethargy. Every time you think this you re-create it's reality. You re-enforce this story. Do your best to let go of this story and offer yourself the highest healing daily. Which is to recognise yourself for a few moments each day as you truly are, that is infinite consciousness, that is always in perfect health, in perfect condition, that needs for nothing. Try and know yourself and subsequently feel this as your being for a few moments each morning and more importantly just before you go to bed.

 

From a spiritual point of view, we create our world and experience afresh every day. IF you are a scientist, you could look at it, that your cells regenerate all the time, so the old you, the old cells, need not be your new cells, but your mentation of your story is the glue that binds it and brings the history into the present.

 

 

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On 8/16/2020 at 12:58 PM, allymisfit said:

Ah. So this goes back to 2015 when I was pregnant. I was advised to take a vaccine (I can't even remember which one it was) and having been so stupidly nieve at the time, I opted for it. Believing it was protecting my baby.

The nurse wasn't particularly nice either. 

 

Anyway, fast forward 5 years and I have been suffering from chronic fatigue most of this time.

The vaccine I got still has the mark and it's not the BCG as I got that at school.

The mark is constantly red with dilated capillaries around it. 

Sometimes it kinda flares up and is very bumpy to the touch compared to when it isn't.

The fatigue and these go hand in hand I've discovered (after years of wondering why).

I tried every vitamin, supplement, healthy diet..you name it. I was vegetarian for years and I struggled terribly with anaemia. I ate meat to cope with it, I was beyond pale (I'm already the palest lass in Scotland. I didn't think it was possible!)

 

My health has gone down the hill so much since that.

My joints flare up badly also. I just feel crap 24/7

 

I truly do believe that vaccine caused this and I'm so angry I fell for their lies!

 

 

First of all, you have to forgive yourself. From what you’ve mentioned, at that time you really did believe you were doing the best possible thing for you and your daughter.  As a newly awakened/deprogrammed person myself, I know how terrifying and bewildering it can be to realise that you fell for their lies for so long about absolutely everything. I am not the same person I was six months ago. Kate Shemirani talks about the thyroid and iodine and lots of stuff you might find useful. Organic is by far the best unfortunately because it’s not been sprayed with glyphosate, non organic is very deficient in many minerals. Also, consider buying a water filter jug or water distiller to remove heavy metals and pesticides. As much as I know this information is valuable, I hate telling it to people because I know how extremely expensive organic things are and to some people it’s just not attainable.  My sister received the vaccine for HPV at 19, I was literally born at the wrong end of the year to receive it, at the time, I was gutted because I thought how unfair it was that just because of 11 months difference in age, I was more likely to get cervical cancer than she was. What’s funny is that she suffered massively with massive depressive episodes and severe chronic fatigue including autoimmune issues including becoming a coeliac, muscle and joint pain ever since. I never ever connected the dots before I learned about this stuff, now listening to all the people suffering from autoimmune issues after vaccines it’s pretty bloody clear, it’s pretty clear that I was born at the right end of the year. Sadly, we’ll never prove our cases and the way my sister is, she would absolutely rip my face off if I suggested it was even possible. I’ve been up way too long already, but if I find any decent videos and things that I can send you, I’ll put them on here. 

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On 8/16/2020 at 8:53 PM, Mr H said:

I'm not going to say that this will cure you but it may help and its free to try......

 

Whether it's true or not that the vaccine is the causal link for your lethargy. Every time you think this you re-create it's reality. You re-enforce this story. Do your best to let go of this story and offer yourself the highest healing daily. Which is to recognise yourself for a few moments each day as you truly are, that is infinite consciousness, that is always in perfect health, in perfect condition, that needs for nothing. Try and know yourself and subsequently feel this as your being for a few moments each morning and more importantly just before you go to bed.

 

From a spiritual point of view, we create our world and experience afresh every day. IF you are a scientist, you could look at it, that your cells regenerate all the time, so the old you, the old cells, need not be your new cells, but your mentation of your story is the glue that binds it and brings the history into the present.

 

 

Hi Mr H 🙂

 

Thanks for your reply. It was very powerful.

I completely agree with everything you mentioned, I really do.

Since this whole year went kahooha, I have been struggling to feel it.

I know that sounds odd.. and there's a rational voice saying to keep with it, that that really is the key to everything and then creeps in another voice, nudging the other voice harshly saying "if that were true, why am I stuck in this trap? It's hard to believe stuff anymore."

I have become so negative and withdrawn, when before I was very positive no matter the situation and enjoyed being with friends.

I must also note - I am being treated for depression and anxiety, so I guess they play a big part in it too.

 

I wish to get that zest, that feeling of discovering the secret to awakening again.

That was truly  one of the best experience of my life. It was induced by psychedelics, but my goodness the feeling was powerful. I remember it so well.

..Yet now, I just don't feel it.

 

I still haven't checked out Karl Mollison, so I shall do that tonight in case it's a spiritual attachment. 

Ever since I moved in to this house, there's been nothing but work, misery and chaos.

 

Thank you, I will try it 🙂 I have nothing to lose at this stage.

 

 

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Hi @allymisfit first of all thank you for having the courage to ask for help and also kudos for doing so well to get where you are today. 

 

I’m 26 and I’ve had CFS since I was 11 years old. A combination of vaccine, childhood trauma and school (prison) culminated in something inside me breaking, which to date has never repaired itself. 

 

I’m at one of my lowest ebbs right now as I read your post. I’ve basically been bed bound for a week apart from the odd foray out and I’m in so much energy debt to myself it’s unreal. I’m sorry to say I do not have the answer for you, but I can tell you what things have made fractional differences over the years (fractions of improvement are massive for people like us). 

 

1- Yoga (the breathing exercises and gentle flow has given me tangible pain relief during a yoga session)

 

2 - Head massage (I had a head massage the other day and I felt tangible pain relief during it)

 

3 - going to sleep before 12 and avoiding heavy stimulus before bed like; films, video games etc. then waking up before 11am - has started my days off on a better footing

 

4- gentle swimming/sauna/steam room/hot tub - this has tangibly helped relieve tension 

 

4 - ‘the way home or face the fire by JAH’ - this is personal and I’m not forcing it on you. It helped reaffirm who I am, where I am and who god and Jesus are. As I say, this is totally ‘optional’ and I only leave it here as a breadcrumb. 

 

 

Is there one single cure, remedy or otherwise? In my experience no there isn’t. The ‘best’ I’ve ever felt was October/November last year. I had slowly built my energy up in the gym, I was eating a balanced and fair diet. I was taking a range of vitamins and supplements and drinking plenty of bottled water. I realised I was sat in the steam room in the gym one day and I was talking in past-tense to a stranger about the illness. I went back to the changing rooms and for the first time since I was 10/11 I felt ‘pain free’ and I hadn’t got my fatigue headache which I experience 24/7. I was total bliss and near enough made me cry. Sadly I caught the November cold (COVID) everyone had, and then Xmas and New Years totally wiped me out and that had a knock on effect right up to lockdown. Obviously lockdown totally screwed up my mental and physical health and I’ve never been right since. I’ve had a handful of good times, but mostly bad. 

 

In addition to the above I’ve tried everything from; living in hot climates, oxygen chambers, numerous types of physio, counselling, every diet under the sun, fasting, exercise, no exercise, every sleep pattern known to man, every supplement under the sun, lived in radiation free environments, water filters, positive reinforcement… you name it. 

 

I can only say the only time I’ve felt good is when I’ve put all the above pieces of the jigsaw together over a long period of time and as mentioned above, it culminated in me feeling on top of the world for a short space of time. 

 

We live in totally fucked up times right now, and its OK to not feel OK. By in large I’ve found peace with the illness which I’ve had for the vast majority of my life. I’ve readjusted my expectations on life, just as someone who has no legs has to get used to not walking, I’ve done the same with myself, and I’m a lot kinder to myself than I used to be. 

 

If you or anyone else has any key ingredients that i’m missing to help heal chronic fatigue, please, please do post your thoughts and wisdom here. 

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@allymisfit such a sad post and the only way to change things is to take control of both your health and your life.  First step is to get hold of a copy of any blood test results, you may have online access via your surgery or you can make a request in writing, you're legally entitled to these.  Are you living in Scotland?  Bound to need vitamin D3 all year round although you may be able to reduce the dose in Summer if you're getting sufficient exposure to the sun.  As a woman you may be low in ferritin, also possibly vitamin B12.  Private tests needn't be hugely expensive if you shop wisely.  NHS ranges are very wide cos treating costs money so you'll be told "everything's fine" when the reality is that that NHS doctors don't have a clue about this stuff.  These are building blocks to good health.  Any prescribed meds may not necessarily be helping especially anything like anti depressants and their ilk.

 

Don't know if you're aware of Dr Sarah Myhill, a private British GP who thinks outside the box.  Her website is a mine of information.

 

https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page

 

https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Vitamin_D_-_most_of_us_do_not_get_enough

 

https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Vitamin_D_and_Sunshine:_an_essential_vitamin!_Protects_against_cancer,_heart_and_bone_disease

 

Would also strongly recommend this book, it's by an American doctor called Neil Nathan and it covers chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, persistent pain and other chronic illnesses right through to how the environment is making us sick.  It's written in an easy to understand way and includes real life patient experiences.  I find myself referring to it on a regular basis.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healing-Possible-Fibromyalgia-Persistent-Illnesses/dp/1681627280/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1598007602&sr=1-2

 

Do hope that you're receiving support from your partner but it could be that professional talking therapy is needed.  Haven't a clue how it works with regard to confidentiality and the NHS, personally if you can afford to go private then go for that.  In my experience, the less that the NHS can throw back in your face the better.

 

Hang in there girl and we're here for you.  Shout out if you have any q's.

 

 

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On 8/16/2020 at 2:49 PM, allymisfit said:

Thanks Oz. I wish to warn the entire universe about the dangers of vaccines.

 

Will I ever get out of this trap? Can I cut it out my skin? I am so tempted to do it myself (but then I freak out as realistically it could go completely wrong.)

Ally,

Please consider trying a Chinese Medicine specialist in your area.  I have, it all works -  upon your first visit to them they'll sit you down and just chat about your physical problems (or mental) , they will recommend a full blood test costing around £130 in the uk.

They will then be able to see exactly where your problems lie, and prescribe the right treatment - usually/often involving herbal pill and natural remedies in pill form.

I know dozens of people round here that have used it with great success and have never had to go to the nhs again.

Chinese medicine specialists are usually VERY highly qualified people who are excited and love what they do, you often meet real characters in the specialists,  who can often tell straightaway after looking at your tongue what your most likely issues are.   
The blood test is a bigee - very important - the chinese medicine specialist usually loses money on this bit (it costs more to get you properly tested than they charge) but they make the money back on subsequent visits and from whatever you are prescribed.  As well as complimentry therapies that work very well with Chinese Medicine such as Acupuncture.

 

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