Twin Towers Nuked

[Messenger]

Another thing about the memorial pools I just thought of is that they either could be generating energy that someone is siphoning off for something, OR, they could be channeling water to an underground base.

[oddsnsods]

6 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

The invisible plane part fairies at work.

 

They could have possibly blown that section out the building with that wheel stuck in it & if you check the art students "Gelatin - B thing" who occupied that building before hand, they were doing all sorts of strange bizarre shit..accessing the outside of the building.

There are videos of no plane, just explosion & witnesses.

 

Edited September 11, 2020 by oddsnsods

[Comedy Time]

9 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

They could have possibly blown that section out the building with that wheel stuck in it & if you check the art students "Gelatin - B thing" who occupied that building before hand, they were doing all sorts of strange bizarre shit..accessing the outside of the building.

There are videos of no plane, just explosion & witnesses.

 

Like a comedy "plane-part" cannon? The energy to get that thing moving that distance would be fairly excessive.

 

 

How do you figure they got it to look like that, transport it to wherever they got it to look like that, people to do it, transport it to magic plane-part cannon (who made that), people to do it (yeah - you lot go up in that seriously compromised building that's on fire and blast bits out of the window). Not really likely is it.

 

Occam's razor says it was a plane part ejected during impact.

[Comedy Time]

12 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

with all that force and kinetic energy we don't need bombs at all......and to think all the work and time that went into development 

 

kinetic energy.....yea right

 

https://willywhitten.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/nist-data-disproves-collapse-theories-based-on-fire/comment-page-2/

The kinetic energy released by the impact of UA Flight 175 was
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (865)^2/32.174
= 4.593 billion ft lbs force (6,227,270 Kilojoules).

 

One 767 on 911 carried 6.22 Gigajoules

One metric ton of TNT is equal to 4.184 Gigajoules

Conventional Tomahawk missile is equal to 1.88 Gigajoules.

 

Kinetic energy. Yeah right!

[screamingeagle]

4 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

Kinetic energy. Yeah right!

 

you are right,in fact the plane was soooooooooo big(and kinetic energy) that it didn't fit in the frame of the camera 

 

can't argue with that kind of physics,ESPECIALY WHEN IT IS A GOVERNMENT FAIRYTALE!!!!

[Comedy Time]

4 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

you are right

 

Yes I know. It carries over 3 times the kinetic energy of a conventional Tomahawk missile. Dare you admit this though, because your response seems once again to be sarcastic.

 

4 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

in fact the plane was soooooooooo big(and kinetic energy) that it didn't fit in the frame of the camera 

 

Well in fairness that IS a shitty closed circuit TV shot. There were two of them and one captured something - see below.

 

To answer your point though, the kinetic energy being big is not in the least bit relevant to your claim that there is no plane.

 

Where is the missile? The impact went INWARDS, so we're back to magic explosions again or something hit the Pentagon. Not rocket science to work this out.

Do you believe a missile was used? 

 

4 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

can't argue with that kind of physics

 

The physics of kinetic energy are as I say irrelevant to your claim. And besides you actually CAN'T argue with it can you?

 

4 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

ESPECIALY WHEN IT IS A GOVERNMENT FAIRYTALE!!!!

 

No need to shout dude, I get it that you have an opinion about this. Watch the video and prove it wrong. Or not, feel free to ignore it.

 

 

[Messenger]

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[screamingeagle]

13 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

No need to shout dude, I get it that you have an opinion about this. Watch the video and prove it wrong. Or not, feel free to ignore it.

no need to tell me what to do

 

and about the video s bunch of stupidity claimed as fact just as all official story 

just as the rocket that hit pentagon 

and the official story that it's a plain

 

your repetition can't turn lies into truth,not even with every media platform supporting it....

 

 

[Comedy Time]

56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

no need to tell me what to do

 

Which is why the line said this "Watch the video and prove it wrong. Or not, feel free to ignore it."

 

You weren't told what to do.

 

56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

and about the video s bunch of stupidity claimed as fact just as all official story 

 

I was hoping for a little more detailed examination. Quite clearly there is an area in the second closed circuit TV footage which corresponds to the outline of a plane. Could you pretty please watch it again and offer a proper response? One that involves analysis rather than arm waving.

 

56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

just as the rocket that hit pentagon 

 

I ask again. 

 

WHERE is the missile?

 

Now we are into the following territory:

• Nobody must see the missile. 
• Witnesses must be planted to say they saw a plane.
• A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over the Pentagon lawn.
• This cannot be done in advance and must be completed before emergency services arrive and/or staff leave the buildings.
• Another team(or same one) must break or attach explosives to the streetlights and the generator. Synchronised to go off with the missile!
• If any of the emergency team are not in on it, they must not see any of this
• The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
• The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash site.
• A hole in the Pentagon wall must be created that resembles a plane impact that somehow occurs at the same time as a missile strike.
• The missile must be fired with some sort of guidance system installed. That involves a branch of the military and a launch mechanism.
• It must approach the Pentagon at ground level and parallel involving a manoeuvre that sees the missile coming down and altering course. That must be done via software link.
• The missile must penetrate all walls of the Pentagon.

 

56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

and the official story that it's a plain

 

Correct. A Plane.

 

Here is a list of interviewed witnesses, are they all lying and in on it?

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html

 

56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

your repetition can't turn lies into truth,not even with every media platform supporting it....

 

Neither can yours, not even with the massive variance in theories amongst conspiracy theorists.

 

Your evasion of the video and the mathematics concerning kinetic energy is noted.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Comedy Time

[screamingeagle]

3 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

Your evasion of the video and the mathematics concerning kinetic energy is noted.

your trolling is noted.....there is no plane onbthe security footage 

 

your repetition won't change anything 

[Comedy Time]

13 hours ago, Messenger said:

...

 

Isn't Rudy talking about the WTC1/2?

"“I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

 

Eyewitnesses hearing loud noises. I would be amazed if there weren't.

 

Silverstein said the fire crews were pulled from the building. 

 

BBC made an error. How come this one of thousands is the "truth". Why on earth would they tell the reporters about this anyway?

 

911 commission eventually did analyse this.

 

The number who know about it isn't really relevant.

 

The zionist media refused to report it, yet the BBC did and so did all the other TV crews that day.

[Comedy Time]

7 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

your trolling is noted.....there is no plane onbthe security footage 

 

your repetition won't change anything 

 

Nothing in my post is trolling. Once again you evaded an extremely large post that was written in good faith with a reference link.

 

The video shows quite clearly the blurred outline of a jet airliner. The link given details copious amounts of witnesses. I gave a list of things that needed to be done, have you any evidence for any of that?

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html

 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Comedy Time

[screamingeagle]

10 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

Nothing in my post is trolling. Once again you evaded an extremely large post that was written in good faith with a reference link.

there is nothing to evade.....

when you admit to your self that no plane hit pentagon

we can try to take discussion on the next level

 

not even the vedic math can calculate the plane into existance.....

 

 

[Comedy Time]

Just now, screamingeagle said:

there is nothing to evade.....

 

Apart from all the eyewitnesses and the ridiculous list of things that needed to be done.

 

Just now, screamingeagle said:

when you admit to your self that no plane hit pentagon we can try to take discussion on the next level

 

How very profound. Are you saying that you think you are at the next level? Are all the eyewitnesses lying? How many were involved in this nonsensical claim?

 

If you have issues with the pilot's skill, it would be far easier to nerve gas the pilots and put in a remote control mechanism. As opposed to involving a cast of god knows how many to act out this alternative scenario.

 

Just now, screamingeagle said:

not even the vedic math can calculate the plane into existance.....

 

So your "proof" for no plane is ...

That you couldn't see it on the video, when you can.

The holes it made are not feasible when a missile with 1/3 the kinetic energy wouldn't have fared any better.

Nobody saw the plane when a whole host of witnesses give detailed reports that it was just that.

The pilot couldn't do any of that when people on youtube, on flight simulators can do the same thing.

 

 

What else, tell me what convinces you there wasn't a plane, help me get to your level? Explain how the witnesses were coerced or paid off, show me any evidence for that big list above.

 

Or just ignore this post completely because you can't do any of that.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

28 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

What else, tell me what convinces you there wasn't a plane,

 

There's lots of things that are highly suspicious at the Pentagon. 

(I believe 2 planes went into the 2 towers - but not the civilian planes we're told) 

1) The only footage of anything approaching the Pentagon is 2 frames.. 

How many cameras in the area?  Why isn't additional footage shown to the public if what happened happened? 

2) The hole looks very small and round. 

Where are the holes / damage made by the large heavy engines? 

3) The eyewitnesses interviewed by the News were / seemed suspicious. I'd have to go and look at footage again as I haven't given this thought or attention for quite some time. 

 

These are just for starters. 

I'm still waking up. Late night.

And MotoGP motorcycle racing is just about to start in Italy (WITH some spectators allowed into the venue) 

BC :0) 

 

[Comedy Time]

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

There's lots of things that are highly suspicious at the Pentagon. 

(I believe 2 planes went into the 2 towers - but not the civilian planes we're told) 

 

Now we are into the following territory:

• Nobody must see the other planes. Including air-traffic control.
• The ensuing chaos must see ATC lose the actual planes at the appropriate time, that involves pilot complicit changes or extra personnel to do this.
• A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over New York.
• The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
• The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash sites.
• A team to fly the planes and crash them. I assume remote control.
• Nobody notices two military planes going missing.

 

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

1) The only footage of anything approaching the Pentagon is 2 frames.. 

 

Yes and that grainy hotel footage.

 

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

How many cameras in the area?  Why isn't additional footage shown to the public if what happened happened? 

 

Because the incoming route had no coverage? Why should it?

 

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

2) The hole looks very small and round. 

 

That is the inner hole and it is caused by the landing gear. Why would a much lesser kinetic energy missile go through all those walls anyway?

 

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

Where are the holes / damage made by the large heavy engines? 

 

The likeliehood was that the wings were bent back and the engines went with them not a straight path.

 

6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

The eyewitnesses interviewed by the News were / seemed suspicious. I'd have to go and look at footage again as I haven't given this thought or attention for quite some time.

 

I gave you a link of all witnesses noted and they are substantial and not all TV interviewed. Besides, that is just your opinion. They may have been just a little bit emotionally compromised.

 

WHERE is the missile?

 

Now we are into the following territory:

• Nobody must see the missile. 
• Witnesses must be planted to say they saw a plane.
• A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over the Pentagon lawn.
• This cannot be done in advance and must be completed before emergency services arrive and/or staff leave the buildings.
• Another team(or same one) must break or attach explosives to the streetlights and the generator. Synchronised to go off with the missile!
• If any of the emergency team are not in on it, they must not see any of this
• The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
• The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash site.
• A hole in the Pentagon wall must be created that resembles a plane impact that somehow occurs at the same time as a missile strike.
• The missile must be fired with some sort of guidance system installed. That involves a branch of the military and a launch mechanism.
• It must approach the Pentagon at ground level and parallel involving a manoeuvre that sees the missile coming down and altering course. That must be done via software link.
• The missile must penetrate all walls of the Pentagon.

[Messenger]

10 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Isn't Rudy talking about the WTC1/2?

"“I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

 

Eyewitnesses hearing loud noises. I would be amazed if there weren't.

 

Silverstein said the fire crews were pulled from the building. 

 

BBC made an error. How come this one of thousands is the "truth". Why on earth would they tell the reporters about this anyway?

 

911 commission eventually did analyse this.

 

The number who know about it isn't really relevant.

 

The zionist media refused to report it, yet the BBC did and so did all the other TV crews that day.

But the BBC reported that building 7 fell BEFORE it actually fell. I have the vid on an external drive somewhere around here.

 

I think he is talking about building one or two. Building seven had a command center bunker set up in it but they didn't even use it that day, probably because they knew they would be destroying the building. It too, 7, had been set up for demolition, it fell straight down almost at free fall speed. Puffs of smoke even seen exiting some windows the second it fell. It is said that building 7 housed records for the IRS and "federal" "reserve", among other federal rackets.

[Comedy Time]

1 hour ago, Messenger said:

But the BBC reported that building 7 fell BEFORE it actually fell. I have the vid on an external drive somewhere around here.

 

I know, hence my use of the word "error" in my response. They got the information wrong. Imagine the news feed said warning of collapse and they assumed it had.

 

Tell me what possible reason would the perps have to inform the BBC news reporters? That makes no sense at all. It's not as though there's any guarantee of discretion there.

 

1 hour ago, Messenger said:

I think he is talking about building one or two. Building seven had a command center bunker set up in it but they didn't even use it that day, probably because they knew they would be destroying the building. It too, 7, had been set up for demolition, it fell straight down almost at free fall speed. Puffs of smoke even seen exiting some windows the second it fell. It is said that building 7 housed records for the IRS and "federal" "reserve", among other federal rackets.

 

Housed all those records? Destroy them being the goal you indicate. Personally I would let the fires burn unabated - that would do it. What probably wouldn't do it would be to demolish the building and spew all that paper all over downtown Manhattan.

 

 

[Haunted Universe]

3 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

Housed all those records? Destroy them being the goal you indicate. Personally I would let the fires burn unabated - that would do it. What probably wouldn't do it would be to demolish the building and spew all that paper all over downtown Manhattan.

 

And how do you know the records weren't put in the bunker and whatever else they had down there? Have you personally been down there and seen the space capacity? Why would the CIA etc have EVERYTHING on paper? Hard drives come to mind. They still used floppy discs for nuclear operations but apparently have ceased this technique. 

 

Why else take out building 7. For a laugh?

 

 

[Haunted Universe]

https://www.wtc7.net/background.html

[Haunted Universe]

Also, the missing 2.3 trillion that Rumsfeld announced on 9/10 was already being investigated in WTC7 and the wall of the pentagon that got hit.

[wideawake]

On 9/12/2020 at 2:01 PM, Comedy Time said:

 

Well in fairness that IS a shitty closed circuit TV shot. There were two of them and one captured something - see below

 

That blurry thing on video does not prove a plane whatsoever . 

Funny tons of coincidences happened that day.

* Blurry video of a "plane" at Pentagon

* Atta's passport found, yeah right

* 3 Towers crashed within their own footprints (never happened before by fire) in seconds

* Many made tons of money because of the attacks (lucky bastards)

* on and on and on and on...

* Oh and to top it off, the Americans got a brand new Patriot Act passed.

If it smells like a fish... it's not a fucking chicken.

[Comedy Time]

4 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

 

And how do you know the records weren't put in the bunker and whatever else they had down there? Have you personally been down there and seen the space capacity? Why would the CIA etc have EVERYTHING on paper? Hard drives come to mind. They still used floppy discs for nuclear operations but apparently have ceased this technique. 

 

Why else take out building 7. For a laugh?

 

 

 

Well why take out Building 7 at all is the question. The main argument I have seen many times was that it housed many paper only records. With computers, is there any company of size that doesn't have offsite backups? It's called disaster recovery.

 

As for what was in there, that's your speculation not mine. Never made any sense. Large chunks of plane hit the building, it was ravaged by fire.

[Comedy Time]

3 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

Also, the missing 2.3 trillion that Rumsfeld announced on 9/10 was already being investigated in WTC7 and the wall of the pentagon that got hit.

 

Why would he do that? I mean, he knows it's happening the next day so why announce this crap the day before and put this big "suspicion" out there?

 

The fact is that he was appealing for a better accounting system to TRACK the money that is to enable the money that HAD been accounted for to be on one single accessible system.

 

The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.

Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld. Monday September 10th, 2001

[Haunted Universe]

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

Why would he do that?

 

 

We can only speculate. So if you are interested in speculating for yourself, just look at what Offices and what was stored inside WTC 7. The information is all over the net and a matter of public record. It should be rather easy to look into and judge for yourself.