The Facts of WTC PLANNED & CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

[mishy]

Shall we move on to the dancing buildings seen on the TV broadcasts?

[Haunted Universe]

Its nice how NORAD took the day off isnt it.

11 minutes ago, mishy said:

Figures of what? It's all on camera, put the shill handbook down and look at the fucking footage. Then show me another plane crash where the plane survives the impact intact with no bits falling off.

 

This guy is deluded and most likely a shill. So vehemently against the no planes theory when you can clearly see a plane ghosting through a building with zero resistance and he says physics don't apply? Isn't it convenient how EVERY SINGLE SO CALLED PLANE VANISHED ON 9/11 WITHOUT A TRACE. Poof! Gone! Haha.

 

Lets say it was a drone or military plane or a real plane, theres too many risks of the plane not crashing into the towers properly, and the plane/no bodies being exposed with wreckage falling into the streets so everyone can see.

 

Theres a video on youtube where the digital planes have been removed. You can clearly see the explosions come from WITHIN the tower blowing outwards, no impact, and zero plane parts.

 

 

[Haunted Universe]

 

[Haunted Universe]

 

[Haunted Universe]

That last side on video of the plane just flying at the same speed through the building as if it isn't there is hilarious. And you think this is a real plane?

[Haunted Universe]

This is the speed a giant plane travels at sea level. At 500mph its wings would have been ripped apart and would have crashed before it even made it quarter of a way to the twin towers.

 

Notice how extremely loud it is on approach.

 

 

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, mishy said:

 

Figures of what?

 

Physics. Show me your physics. Observing through the eyes of ignorance is all you are doing.

 

1 hour ago, mishy said:

 

It's all on camera, put the shill handbook down and look at the fucking footage.

 

It certainly is. Pick up a physics handbook and answer the request.  I looked at the "fucking footage" and saw an enormous chunk of metal travelling at maximum velocity, carrying an astronomical amount of kinetic energy. I don't own any shill handbooks, but if I did I imagine it would say steer clear of the mentally challenged at all cost. 

 

1 hour ago, mishy said:

Then show me another plane crash where the plane survives the impact intact with no bits falling off.

 

What an ignorant observation. The plane wings were full of fuel and travelling at 500+ mph. In the mad world of a no-planer maybe we would see the comedy bounce off.

 

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/plane-crashes-into-empire-state-building#:~:text=A United States military plane,Airport in New York City.

 

"Upon impact, the plane’s fuel exploded, filling the interior of the building with flames all the way down to the 75th floor and sending flames out of the hole the plane had ripped open in the building’s side. One engine from the plane went straight through the building and landed in a penthouse apartment across the street. Other plane parts ended up embedded in and on top of nearby buildings. The other engine snapped an elevator cable while at least one woman was riding in the elevator car. The emergency auto brake saved the woman from crashing to the bottom, but the engine fell down the shaft and landed on top of it."

 

 

 

B25 = 9,210kg Top speed 272mph and it was unlikely to be going at full pelt.

757 = 82,400kg and travelling at estimated 530mph.

 

Cue the no-planer Janet and John diversionary handbook.

[Carlos]

OMG, the no-planers have been "activated" - spam the thread if all else fails.

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

 

Haha. Great. We will rely on delusion then. 

 

I'm sure when you set out to write that it sounded good in your head, but written down, not so much.

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

and he says physics don't apply?

 

 

Reading not your strong point is it. I said YOU don't get to invoke physics. Of course it applies, but since you know nothing about it, it negates you being able to refer to it.

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[Carlos]

When are the no-plane tag-team going to answer this?

 

It boils down to a straight choice:

 

Alternative one involves manufacturing dozens of sequences of footage and making sure it all ties together. Faking each crash with missiles or whatever and magical charges that blow the uprights INWARDS (right there is your opening clue). You then have to dispose of the planes with nobody seeing or pay off all who do (for life and hope they don't talk), then dispose of the bodies. And for the Pentagon you have to secrete DNA remains of the passengers onboard all around the crash site. Quite who does al that work is enough to worry about secrecy, but then you have to worry about all private cine-cameras and eye witnesses who are in a good position to see planes approach. Oh and just for good measure do all that complete ridiculously unfeasible list live on TV in front of the entire planet.

 

Alternative two involves crashing the planes.

 

Tough choice I know. 

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[Carlos]

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

Yeh totally, aluminium planes were able to penetrate thick steel girders, then magically vanish never to be seen again. Then they put a pathetically small engine in some street which was the wrong type (lol) and a magical indestructible passport conveniently shows up.

 

They were full of seats, people, luggage, cross members, food trolleys, fuel, instruments, tv screens, partitions, carpets, cables, undercarriage and other items all weighing at 82.4 metric tons. This travelling along at 530mph. 

 

Only the truly brainless can fail to understand the colossal kinetic energy in play. The engine was the correct type, not placed there and the passport was iffy.

 

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

Have you seen videos and photos of the towers being built? You must be on drugs to think an airliner would go through that.

 

Irony. Anything with sufficient force would go through it.

 

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

9/11 was planned decades in advance. 'A new Pearl Harbor'. Piss easy to create fake videos and imagery.

 

No it wasn't. Your sense of reality is quite disturbing.

 

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

Also, to take out a building you destroy the foundations, not attack it top down. 20 REAL jetliners crashing into the top of the world trade towers still wouldnt have made them collapse the way they did on 9/11.

 

I don't recall seeing anywhere how the hijackers claimed to be trying to bring the buildings down. Completely irrelevant.

 

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

WHERE was the remains of a giant airliner at Shanksville? Theres nothing there! Just a smoking crater.

 

It hit an immovable object, the packed ground at maximum speed. It smashed into tiny pieces and ejected over many miles. I won't bother posting clear-up accounts and links.

 

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

Why dont the bent FBI/CIA release the video of an airliner crashing into the Penta-con? Because it was a missile or drone. Photos show the exit hole 3 buildings in and tiny. 

 

It was a plane. CCTV is fairly useless at capturing such fast objects anyway. 

 

 

I just realised I am being dragged into an almost as dumb debate as the flat earth.

 

[mishy]

Rupert? It's you isn't it?

[Haunted Universe]

Whats your point? The Empire State Building mostly consisted of 200,000 cubic feet of Indiana limestone and granite and 10 million bricks supported by a steel frame. A B-25 bomber is tiny in comparison to a commercial airliner. 

 

How does your Pentagon plane penetrate 3 buildings creating a tiny exit hole? Was it the:

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enormous chunk of metal travelling at maximum velocity, carrying an astronomical amount of kinetic energy. 

 

Get real. 

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

This is the speed a giant plane travels at sea level. At 500mph its wings would have been ripped apart and would have crashed before it even made it quarter of a way to the twin towers.

 

Notice how extremely loud it is on approach.

 

 

 

 

That is going around 430mph. I see no wings coming off and I imagine the pilot was briefed not to tear the arse out of the engines.

 

Can you show me your stress diagrams and physics to show why the wings would fall off at a speed the plane is designed to do?

[Haunted Universe]

32 minutes ago, Carlos said:

 

I'm sure when you set out to write that it sounded good in your head, but written down, not so much.

 

You make yourself look foolish and negate everything you have said by stating physics do not apply to 9/11. Do you even think before you write?

 

Your logic is the equivalent of lobbing a can of coke as hard as you can against a brick wall and saying physics will not stop the coke can from going through. You are saying the full  can of coke will use its kinetic energy and penetrate the brick wall. That's how deluded you are. Great going Einstein.. 

[Haunted Universe]

22 minutes ago, Carlos said:

They were full of seats, people, luggage, cross members, food trolleys, fuel, instruments, tv screens, partitions, carpets, cables, undercarriage and other items all weighing at 82.4 metric tons. This travelling along at 530mph. 

 

Only the truly brainless can fail to understand the colossal kinetic energy in play. The engine was the correct type, not placed there and the passport was iffy.

 

No shit? Really? Yet not a spec of plane debris or anything inside the plane upon or after impact, especially on the roofs of the buildings below and the streets. Poof. Just vanished. Where is all this you mention? Swallowed up by the fireball no doubt and your psychosis. 

[Carlos]

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

Whats your point? The Empire State Building mostly consisted of 200,000 cubic feet of Indiana limestone and granite and 10 million bricks supported by a steel frame.

 

https://prezi.com/i2kgy3uhzwnh/empire-state-building-vs-world-trade-center/?frame=8cd33b6de541acaaf7bc79da3fa1824bb1653df8

 

You need to shut up dude.

 

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

A B-25 bomber is tiny in comparison to a commercial airliner. 

 

Haha, the very point - you really don't debate well do you. It still went through the outside of a massive building. Slower, lighter.

 

 

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

How does your Pentagon plane penetrate 3 buildings creating a tiny exit hole? Was it the:

 

1. Magic missile invoking the masses of people to distribute the plane parts and the dna, fire the missile, dispose of the plane and passengers etc.

2. Plane landing gear.

 

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/#:~:text=Claim%3A Two holes were visible in the Pentagon,hole in Ring C%2C the Pentagon's middle ring.

[Carlos]

3 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

You make yourself look foolish and negate everything you have said by stating physics do not apply to 9/11. Do you even think before you write?

 

Dude, is English your first language? I say that because nowhere have I stated that physics do not apply. I said that YOU and team no plane have no right to use it because your ignorance is substantial. As for making myself look foolish - when my "judges" are people like you, I kind of ignore it.

 

Besides, looking foolish?

 

  

2 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

 

Haha. Great. We will rely on delusion then. 

 

THAT'S foolish.

 

[Haunted Universe]

Try getting me going around in your pathetic circles all you like shill. At every so called plane crash site there is not a single shred of evidence of HUGE jetliner wreckage/debris. Nothing....absolutely nothing. 

 

FOUR planes...nothing...poof...gone. I'll say it again for you...NOTHING.   What a coincidence. 

 

Using real planes is a dumb idea by professional perps. Theres too much that can go wrong. Faking it? Much easier.

 

NO PLANES times infinity.

 

 

[Carlos]

8 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

Your logic is the equivalent of lobbing a can of coke as hard as you can against a brick wall and saying physics will not stop the coke can from going through. You are saying the full  can of coke will use its kinetic energy and penetrate the brick wall. 

 

No you rather silly person. That is not what I am saying at all. If the coke can weighed 90 tons and was travelling at 500mph you might 

 

 

[Carlos]

2 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

 

Haha. Great. We will rely on delusion then. 

 

You really aren't thinking it through are you - it isn't saying what you think it is saying. 

[Haunted Universe]

9 minutes ago, Carlos said:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/#:~:text=Claim%3A Two holes were visible in the Pentagon,hole in Ring C%2C the Pentagon's middle ring.

 

Well done for referencing one of biggest shill companies going. Moron. Your true colours are showing now.

 

 "Radio host Charles Goyette interviews Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics. Coburn was the senior editor and fact checker for Popular Mechanics’s debunking articles as well as the book “Debunking 911 Myths”.

Coburn attempts to defend Popular Mechanics’s 911 debunkery and alleges the existence of WTC-7 photos which the world is not allowed to see, and which Popular Mechanics did not publish. Coburn also maintains that DNA evidence was used to identify the 911 hijackers."

[Haunted Universe]

Are you a NIST supporter as well? Did you work for Ptech too? 

[Carlos]

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

Try getting me going around in your pathetic circles all you like shill. At every so called plane crash site there is not a single shred of evidence of HUGE jetliner wreckage/debris. Nothing....absolutely nothing. 

 

You are the one cutting and pasting from your silly repertoire of nonsense. Planes that burst into flames and crash at maximum velocity don't tend to leave much behind.

 

It is a total waste of time casting pearls before swine but anyway. THIS plane landed and caught fire. It didn't crash at 530mph into an enclosed space or come down nigh on vertically and bounce into a million bits:

 

 

That's with fire engines putting the fire out. Leave it to burn, after you crash it at high velocity into an enclosed space and you'd get bugger all left.

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

FOUR planes...nothing...poof...gone. I'll say it again for you...NOTHING.   What a coincidence. 

 

Nope, that's physics. High energy impact and long duration burning.

 

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

Using real planes is a dumb idea by professional perps. Theres too much that can go wrong. Faking it? Much easier.

 

 

Stupid statement. Crashing a plane is so easy even a child could do it. An adult and they just need to point it in the right direction.

 

 

 

Just now, Haunted Universe said:

NO PLANES times infinity.