wideawake Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 hours ago, wideawake said: @Comedy Time Now think of it this way... if you could throw the WTC at the plane with the same kinetic energy, would the wings collapse or the steal columns? Again, here is the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said: Why? And to add to my reply. . If you have a problem with Moderation or Members then PM one of the Staff. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said: 3 points for asking about the admin? This forum is worse than North Korea. Enjoy your little power trip you non entity. 3 points for publicly bitching about a Moderator and his decision, who puts in a lot of effort and free time to keep this place running. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reet Hard said: oh look 3 of my posts have been removed Yes. Carry on if you want to go onto moderation. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, Reet Hard said: Why do you not hold Comedy time to any of the standards ste out in your ts &cs? We do. Stop discussing members and their behaviour in public. If you have a serious concern then PM staff. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reet Hard said: No you don't and everyone knwo syou don't. Can you stop please? PM if you have problems or concerns. Thanks BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: So your answer is a question and you criticize everybody else for doing the same. Hmm No. My answer was that the forces are identical. I didn't realise that would confuse you. The same forces produce the same result. I am not aware of ever criticising anyone for asking a question unless it had already been answered. Can you highlight what you are talking about? 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: My conclusion was by logic. Well, your "logic" is incorrect. Perhaps you should try to understand the nature of kinetic force and look up the resistant forces involved in the building construction. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: Every time on 9/11 discussions ( towers fell on their own footprints, Nothing to do with no planes. Gravity tends to do that fall downwards, but a simple aerial shot of the devastation shows that claim is wrong. Things flew out all over the place, a very large chunk struck WTC7 and gored out substantial parts of the South face. That was lucky huh? NOW they had a reason for fires and stuff. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: arabs as highjackers, Ok. Nothing to do with no planes again. They had a beef with the USA. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: fake planes, Nope. Four planes. Fast, loads of kinetic energy. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: Silverstein's insurance racket Nothing to do with the subject. Not going to bother arguing against it. Maybe he knew, unlikely though. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: the pentagon attack video What about it? Looks like a plane from the analysis I posted. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: unusual crash debris in Shanksville, etc, etc) for some reason Nothing unusual about something so vastly energetic striking a packed surface and flying off into smithereens. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: there is no logic anymore Hmmm, the problem is your understanding of what is logical. 47 minutes ago, wideawake said: mathematical, scientific answer. Why? Because NIST said so? Not really, some maths maybe but in general fairly obvious stuff. Certainly no maths or science from no-planers. Edited October 6, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Reet Hard said: Why do you not hold Comedy time to any of the standards ste out in your ts &cs? I'm far more well behaved than that rotter Rupert whatshisname. PM me some examples where you think I have breached the Terms and Conditions.....or let one of the mods know. I'm fairly certain that if I as much as let out a small metaphorical fart it would get reported by about a dozen people. In the meantime, explain why you think it more feasible to crash the actual plane and hope nobody notices the "military plane", meaning you now have to dispose of the bodies, the plane, sprinkle parts, dna - body burning and mangling etc. etc. Seriously, if I was Dr. Evil and given a remit for this. It would be enable remote control for all 4, small canister of remote released nerve gas on the pilots. Stick some high concentrate explosives in the baggage and sync the detonation to the impacts. Could be done with a couple of dozen people. Edited October 6, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 10/5/2020 at 6:22 PM, wideawake said: @Comedy Time Now think of it this way... if you could throw the WTC at the plane with the same kinetic energy, would the wings collapse or the steal columns? So... wings collapse or steel columns, quite simple, pick 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wideawake said: So... wings collapse or steel columns, quite simple, pick 1. Dude....I wonder what is confusing you here. The phrase "forces are identical" or the "same result". Would you like me to shout? As it happened. Big chunk of mass going very fast. Building had insufficient resistant force. Columns broke. I await something more than the usual no planer noise. I wrote big post you didn't. You ignored it all. Edited October 7, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 One of the most compelling areas of the 911 conspiracy which is often overlooked is the war games going on during the attacks which completely scrambled the ability of the US military to respond effectively to the evolving situation. Episode 346 – 9/11 War Games Corbett • 09/11/2018 Little did we know at the time, 9/11 was not a normal day of blue sky aviation. On the contrary, it was one of the busiest days in the history of American aviation, a dense forest of live fly exercises, drills, simulations, fake radar injects and utter confusion. And that was before the attacks even began. This is the story of 9/11 that you didn’t watch unfold on your TV that fateful day in 2001. This is the story of the 9/11 War Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Comedy Time said: Dude....I wonder what is confusing you here. The phrase "forces are identical" or the "same result". Would you like me to shout? As it happened. Big chunk of mass going very fast. Building had insufficient resistant force. Columns broke. I await something more than the usual no planer noise. I wrote big post you didn't. You ignored it all. Finally an answer, you really struggled to answer this simple question. Now I understand where you stand, the aluminum wings can slice through the steel wall of the building without any damage because the building had insufficient resistant force... Enough said. Edited October 8, 2020 by wideawake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, wideawake said: Finally an answer, you really struggled to answer this simple question. Dude, you got an answer straight away. You seem to struggle to understand the long detailed posts I make. Besides, I already bloody answered this before!! What makes me laugh is you being unable to put 2 and 2 together. I state unequivocally that the resistant forces are not enough for the kinetic energy. I also state that reversing it in your building moving scenario, the forces are identical. There is all you need to know! 2 hours ago, wideawake said: Now I understand where you stand, the aluminum wings can slice through the steel wall of the building without any damage because the building had insufficient resistant force... Enough said. Are you "struggling" with physics here? The wings are aluminium alloys and filled with fuel. There are also numerous tougher components for the flaps and, hydraulics. It's almost the perfect shape to slice though a column at 500 mph http://www.icas.org/ICAS_ARCHIVE/ICAS1982/ICAS-82-2.2.1.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 additional just for the fun of the coincidence flight 77 (and flight 11) didnt exist flight 77 was recorded as flying for 77 mins from take off to crash it is claimed it crashed into the pentagon , located at 77 degrees longitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, zArk said: flight 77 (and flight 11) didnt exist Stop being ridiculous. They both existed. 14 minutes ago, zArk said: flight 77 was recorded as flying for 77 mins from take off to crash But you said it didn't exist? 14 minutes ago, zArk said: it is claimed it crashed into the pentagon , located at 77 degrees longitude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77 Hundreds and hundreds of other numbers that aren't a 77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcement Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) What happened 5 hours ago, Comedy Time said: Stop being ridiculous. They both existed. But you said it didn't exist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77 Hundreds and hundreds of other numbers that aren't a 77 What happened to Haunted Science? He talked a lot of sense. As an person of independent analytical thought you will agree with me that the official version of events is beyond ridiculous. Edited October 8, 2020 by Enforcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcement Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Why did NIST deny existence of molten steel and concrete fused together in giant balls, indicating temperatures way beyond anything burning jet fuel creates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 7:01 PM, Enforcement said: What happened What happened to Haunted Science? He talked a lot of sense. He was a no planer and you claim military planes. How is his version "sense"? On 10/8/2020 at 7:01 PM, Enforcement said: As an person of independent analytical thought you will agree with me that the official version of events is beyond ridiculous. I won't. I will agree that your version is beyond ridiculous, nukes are ridiculous, space weapons are ridiculous, no planes are ridiculous. When I find a version that fits better than the explanation given, maybe I'll entertain it. The general one with planes has the buildings collapsing at the points of impact. Magic explosives again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 7:13 PM, Enforcement said: Why did NIST deny existence of molten steel and concrete fused together in giant balls, indicating temperatures way beyond anything burning jet fuel creates? Giant Balls. How about that, the answer was in the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Comedy Time said: nukes are ridiculous So how do you explain the missing bedrock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, theo102 said: So how do you explain the missing bedrock? Volcanic activity quite some time ago. Please tell me you don't believe bloody nuclear weapons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcement Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Comedy Time said: Giant Balls. How about that, the answer was in the question. So you admit that NIST are lying and something else had to have caused the collapse because burning jet fuel is never hot enough to fuse molten steel and concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcement Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Comedy Time said: He was a no planer and you claim military planes. How is his version "sense"? I won't. I will agree that your version is beyond ridiculous, nukes are ridiculous, space weapons are ridiculous, no planes are ridiculous. When I find a version that fits better than the explanation given, maybe I'll entertain it. The general one with planes has the buildings collapsing at the points of impact. Magic explosives again. So again you indicate that you agree with the official version of events even though in an earlier post you claim you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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