Dagmar Gross Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 When I was reminded of the atrocious crimes committed on the elderly in care-homes at the moment while watching David's weekly talk on this site, that also reminded me again of a book I read a couple of years ago called "The Lady of Hay", by Barbara Erskine. This novel is based on a real person, Lady Maud or Matilda de Braose, who was married to a baron in the reign of King John. Now, King John was a womanizer, but he couldn't get her into bed with him. So, he created a reason to have her locked up together with her young son in Corfe Castle, Dorset, and had them both starved to death... Barbara Erskine tells this story very vividly, making this a chilling read. Matilda or Maud as she is also known, built the castle at Hay-on-Wye back then. So now, what our rulers are doing is no better. King John signed the Magna Carta, but in 1215, so five years after Maud and her son William had died. But, who knows whether that would have saved them. Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) I knew a retirement home nurse and she told me they used to keep the elderly doped up to keep them quiet. Just her word though. Edited August 6, 2020 by shadowmoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5pac3@5tat10n Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I don't know why they call them homes. I worked in them. They used to all ask to go home so no they are not nice places. I am so glad I got out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 5:57 PM, shadowmoon said: I knew a retirement home nurse and she told me they used to keep the elderly doped up to keep them quiet. Just her word though. I've heard that too from a lawyer who handles elder abuse cases. It's mostly in the state-run facilities. Private residents don't get the 'liquid cosh.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 12:31 AM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: I've heard that too from a lawyer who handles elder abuse cases. It's mostly in the state-run facilities. Private residents don't get the 'liquid cosh.' What a dreadful society. Young taken into forced education, old taken into oap death camps, the majority of the rest terrified by a huge hoax. Still at least we don't live in North Korea eh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm in the garden Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 My father ended up in a nursing home for the last few years of his life, a state run home on the outskirts of Dublin. There were no set visiting times and I could drop in to see him at any time. It was clean and bright and cheerful, with friendly and caring staff. Everyone's birthdays were celebrated and they had regular entertainment laid on for the residents. They were beautiful, caring people who ran that home and I'd have nothing but praise and admiration for them. I realize that he was very lucky to end up there and there are numerous horror stories about nursing homes which I don't doubt are true, but there are some good people also. A few years after he passed away at the age of ninety four I came across the Ricky Gervais series "Derek", and it reminded me so much of the staff of that nursing home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Storm in the garden said: My father ended up in a nursing home for the last few years of his life, a state run home on the outskirts of Dublin. There were no set visiting times and I could drop in to see him at any time. It was clean and bright and cheerful, with friendly and caring staff. Everyone's birthdays were celebrated and they had regular entertainment laid on for the residents. They were beautiful, caring people who ran that home and I'd have nothing but praise and admiration for them. I realize that he was very lucky to end up there and there are numerous horror stories about nursing homes which I don't doubt are true, but there are some good people also. A few years after he passed away at the age of ninety four I came across the Ricky Gervais series "Derek", and it reminded me so much of the staff of that nursing home. I am glad your father spent his last years in such a place as you describe. My gran was lucky enough to live in a council home back in the 70s where she was treated like a queen by the staff. In the UK, I don't think there are any council-run homes any more, though there may be. The private sector runs them now and, as you can guess, profits come first. Old people are treated as a commodity. I'm not saying all places are like that but enough make the headlines to make me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 hours ago, shadowmoon said: What a dreadful society. Young taken into forced education, old taken into oap death camps, the majority of the rest terrified by a huge hoax. Still at least we don't live in North Korea eh! In Asia, the elderly are revered; or they used to be. There have been cultural changes in many Asian countries and some of the bad habits of western capitalism have taken hold but the last time I visited Japan, attitudes towards the elderly remained very respectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: In Asia, the elderly are revered; or they used to be. There have been cultural changes in many Asian countries and some of the bad habits of western capitalism have taken hold but the last time I visited Japan, attitudes towards the elderly remained very respectful. Choose rotting away in the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself, choose your future. Choose life... - Irvine Welsh. Trainspotting. Edited August 10, 2020 by shadowmoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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