NASA Lies ..... There Is No Such Thing As Space

[amy G]

[alexa]

6 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

ive been into the giant tree theory for years, giant petrified shrooms also.

 

You mean like these........WOW! Talk about the stone age

 

 

 

[alexa]

4 hours ago, amy G said:

 

Thanks amy G & @Nobby Noboddy  At last ppl who can see outside of the Box

 

 

[peter]

5 hours ago, amy G said:

I've told you a couple of times now, in my estimation you are the reason why we haven't been back to the moon

You are starting to show your true colors Bflat  a mathematical aerospace engineer your not , and how do we know this ? because you use FE terminology and not professional terminology that one would expect you to use with regards to the delusional opinion of yourself you espoused in your first post

Edited September 16, 2020 by peter

[alexa]

On 9/16/2020 at 6:29 AM, peter said:

I've told you a couple of times now, in my estimation you are the reason why we haven't been back to the moon

 

What are you on about ? How is amyG the reason why we haven't been back to the moon ? 

[Comedy Time]

On 9/16/2020 at 1:05 AM, amy G said:

 

 

What is this? Some sort of joke????

 

Artificial object	Image	Country	Year	Mass (lb)	Mass (kg)	Status	Location	Notes
Luna 2		Soviet Union	1959	860	390	Intentionally crashed	29.1°N 0°E	[2]
Luna 2 Third stage of Vostok rocket		Soviet Union	1959	20,100	9,100	Intentionally crashed	29.1°N 0°E	[3]
Ranger 4		United States	1962	730	331	Intentionally crashed	15.5°S 130.7°W	[4]
Ranger 6		United States	1964	840	381	Intentionally crashed	9.358°N 21.480°E	[5]
Ranger 7		United States	1964	805	365	Intentionally crashed	10.63°S 20.60°W	[6]
Luna 5		Soviet Union	1965	3,250	1,474	Crashed	8°N 23°W	[7]
Luna 7		Soviet Union	1965	3,316	1,504	Crashed	9.8°N 47.8°W	[8]
Luna 8		Soviet Union	1965	220	100	Crashed	9.1°N 63.3°W	[9]
Ranger 8		United States	1965	809	367	Intentionally crashed	2.638°N 24.787°E	[10]
Ranger 9		United States	1965	809	367	Intentionally crashed	12.828°S 2.387°W	[11]
Luna 9		Soviet Union	1966	220	100	Landed	7.08°N 64.37°W	[12]
Luna 10		Soviet Union	1966	3,500	1,600	Crashed (post-mission)	Unknown[a]	[13]
Luna 11		Soviet Union	1966	3,620	1,640	Crashed	Unknown[a]	[14]
Luna 12		Soviet Union	1966	3,680	1,670	Crashed	Unknown[a]	[15]
Surveyor 1		United States	1966	600	270	Landed	2.474°S 43.339°W	[16]
Luna 13		Soviet Union	1966	3,700	1,700	Landed	18.87°N 62.05°W	[17]
Lunar Orbiter 1		United States	1966	851	386	Crashed (post-mission)	6.70°N 162°E	[18]
Surveyor 2		United States	1966	644	292	Crashed	5.5°S 12°W	[19]
Lunar Orbiter 2		United States	1966	849	385	Crashed (post-mission)	3.0°N 119°E	[20]
Lunar Orbiter 3		United States	1966	851	386	Crashed (post-mission)	14.3°N 97.7°W	[21]
Surveyor 3		United States	1967	619	281	Landed

3.015°S 23.418°W ^[22] Lunar Orbiter 4

 United States 1967 851 386 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown^{[a] [23]} Surveyor 4

 United States 1967 624 283 Crashed 0.4°N 1.33°W ^[24] Explorer 35

 United States 1967 229 104 Crashed
(post mission) Unknown^{[a] [25]} Lunar Orbiter 5

 United States 1967 851 386 Crashed
(post-mission) 3°S 83°W ^[26] Surveyor 5

 United States 1967 619 281 Landed 1.461°N 23.195°E ^[27] Surveyor 6

 United States 1967 622 282 Landed 0.49°N 1.40°W ^[28] Surveyor 7

 United States 1968 640 290 Landed 40.86°S 11.47°W ^[29] Luna 14    Soviet Union 1968 3,680 1,670 Crashed Unknown^{[a] [30]} Apollo 10
LM-4 Snoopy descent stage

 United States 1969 4,874 2,211 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown^{[a] [31]} Apollo 11
LM-5 Eagle descent stage

 United States 1969 4,484 2,034 Landed 0.6741°N 23.4730°E ^[32] Luna 15    Soviet Union 1969 5,992 2,718 Crashed Unknown ^[33] Apollo 11
LM-5 Eagle ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1969 4,815 2,184 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown ^[34] Apollo 12
LM-6 Intrepid descent stage

 United States 1969 4,874 2,211 Landed 3.0124°S 23.4216°W ^[35] Apollo 12
LM-6 Intrepid ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1969 4,771 2,164 Crashed
(post-mission) 3.94°S 21.20°W ^[36] Luna 16 descent stage^[d]    Soviet Union 1970 3,040 1,380 Landed 0.68°S 56.3°E ^[37] Luna 17 and Lunokhod 1    Soviet Union 1970 12,300 5,600 Landed 38.28°N 35.0°W ^[38] Apollo 13
S-IVB (S-IVB-508)^[39]

 United States 1970 29,661 13,454 Intentionally crashed 2.75°S 27.86°W ^[40] Luna 18    Soviet Union 1971 4,140 1,880 Crashed 3.57°N 56.5°E ^[41] Luna 19    Soviet Union 1971 4,140 1,880 Crashed Unknown^{[a] [42]} Apollo 14
S-IVB (S-IVB-509)

 United States 1971 30,900 14,016 Intentionally crashed 8.09°S 26.02°W ^[43] Apollo 14
LM-8 Antares descent stage

 United States 1971 4,727 2,144 Landed 3.6453°S 17.4714°W ^[44] Apollo 14
LM-8 Antares ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1971 4,705 2,132 Crashed
(post-mission) 3.42°S 19.67°W ^[45] Apollo 15
S-IVB (S-IVB-510)

 United States 1971 30,944 14,036 Intentionally crashed 1.51°S 11.81°W ^[46] Apollo 15
LM-10 Falcon descent stage

 United States 1971 6,193 2,809 Landed 26.1322°N 3.6339°E ^[47] Apollo 15
Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-1)

 United States 1971 460 210 Landed 26.08°N 3.66°E   Apollo 15
LM-10 Falcon ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1971 4,700 2,132 Crashed
(post-mission) 26.36°N 0.25°E ^[48] Apollo 15 subsatellite

 United States 1971 79 36 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown^{[a] [49]} Luna 20 descent stage^[d]    Soviet Union 1972 <12,626 <5,727 Landed 3.57°N 56.5°E ^[50] Apollo 16
S-IVB (S-IVB-511)

 United States 1972 30,869 14,002 Intentionally crashed 1.921°N 24.623°W ^[51] Apollo 16
LM-11 Orion descent stage

 United States 1972 6,096 2,765 Landed 8.9730°S 15.5002°E ^[52] Apollo 16
Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-2)

 United States 1972 460 210 Landed 8.97°S 15.51°E   Apollo 16
LM-11 Orion ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1972 4,713 2,138 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown ^[53] Apollo 16 subsatellite

 United States 1972 79 36 Crashed
(post-mission) Unknown^{[a] [54]} Apollo 17
S-IVB (S-IVB-512)

 United States 1972 30,780 13,960 Intentionally crashed 4.21°S 12.31°W ^[55] Apollo 17
LM-12 Challenger descent stage

 United States 1972 6,169 2,798 Landed 20.1908°N 30.7717°E ^[56] Apollo 17
Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-3)

 United States 1972 460 210 Landed 20.17°N 30.77°E   Apollo 17
LM-12 Challenger ascent stage^[c]

 United States 1972 4,740 2,150 Crashed
(post-mission) 19.96°N 30.50°E ^[57] Luna 21 and Lunokhod 2^[e]    Soviet Union 1973 10,690 4,850 Landed 25.85°N 30.45°E ^[58] Explorer 49 (RAE-B)

 United States 1973 723 328 Crashed Unknown^{[a] [59]} Luna 22    Soviet Union 1974 8,800 4,000 Crashed Unknown^{[a] [60]} Luna 23    Soviet Union 1974 12,300 5,600 Landed 12.75°N 62.20°E ^[61] Luna 24 descent stage^[d]    Soviet Union 1976 <12,787 <5,800 Landed 12.75°N 62.20°E ^[62] Hagoromo
Hiten^[f]

 Japan 1990 26 12 Crashed
(not confirmed) Unknown ^[63] Hiten

 Japan 1993 315 143 Intentionally crashed 34.3°S 55.6°E ^[64] Lunar Prospector

 United States 1998 278 126 Intentionally crashed 87.7°S 42.35°E ^[65][66] SMART-1

Various^[g] 2006 677 307 Intentionally crashed 34.262°S 46.193°W ^[67] Moon Impact Probe (MIP)
Chandrayaan-1  India 2008 77 35 Intentionally crashed 89.76°S 39.40°W ^[68][69][70] SELENE Rstar (Okina)    Japan 2009 117 53 Crashed 28.213°N 159.033°W ^[71][72][73] Chang'e 1

 China 2009 4,400 2,000 Intentionally crashed 1.50°S 52.36°E ^[74][75][76] SELENE (Kaguya) main orbiter    Japan 2009 4,374 1,984^[74] Intentionally crashed 65.5°S 80.5°E ^[77][78][79] LCROSS Shepherding Spacecraft

 United States 2009 1,500 700 Intentionally crashed 84.729°S 49.36°W ^[h][80][81] LCROSS Centaur

 United States 2009 5,000 2,270 Intentionally crashed 84.675°S 48.725°W ^[82][83] GRAIL

 United States 2012 293 133 Crashed
(post-mission) 75.62°N 26.63°W ^[84] Chang'e 3
Yutu rover    China 2013 2,600 1,200 Operational^[j] 44.12°N 19.51°W ^[85][86][87] LADEE

 United States 2014 547 248 Intentionally crashed 10.8°N 91.6°W   Chang'e 4
Yutu-2 rover    China 2019 2,600 1,200 Operational 45.5°S 177.6°E   Beresheet

 Israel 2019 330 150 Crashed^[88][89] 32.5956°N 19.3496°E   Longjiang-2    China 2019 104 47 Intentionally crashed^[90] 16.6956°N 159.5170°E ^[91] Chandrayaan-2
Vikram lander
Pragyan rover

 India 2019 3,243 1,471 Crashed^[92] 70.8810°S 22.7840°E ^[93] Total estimated dry mass 421,109 191,012  

 

 

But all faaaaaaake. God knows how many people just that would involve!

[Comedy Time]

https://www.n2yo.com/satellites/?c=3

[alexa]

3 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

But all faaaaaaake. God knows how many people just that would involve!

 

It could involve the whole world, this doesn't make space anymore real!

 

 

 

[Comedy Time]

3 hours ago, alexa said:

 

It could involve the whole world, this doesn't make space anymore real!

 

 

Has anyone ever told you how rather unimportant your opinion is? You remind me of King Canute up to his neck denying the tides. Oh run me by that one. Flat earth tides. As if 

 

What manner of person systematically denies dozens and dozens of posts as a means to uphold their ludicrous claims? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[alexa]

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

 

What manner of person systematically denies dozens and dozens of posts as a means to uphold their ludicrous claims? 

 

A God fearing believer 

[Comedy Time]

27 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

A God fearing believer 

 

What kind of nasty god requires you to fear them!! 

 

Earth is a planet within a solar system in a big universe. The big star is not close by and neither is the Moon. There is space and the world is not flat. If there's a god he's a bit of a swine.

 

Have you heard of Dunning Kruger?

 

[alexa]

33 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

Have you heard of Dunning Kruger?

 

Maybe you suffer from some sort of deficiency of Chromosome 8.

[peter]

22 hours ago, alexa said:

 

What are you on about ? How is amyG the reason why we haven't been back to the moon ? 

Think about it , there is a gratuitous amount of sarcasm in that statement with regards to is first post, but I would have thought that should have been self evident

[Comedy Time]

7 hours ago, alexa said:

 

Maybe you suffer from some sort of deficiency of Chromosome 8.

 

Now now, don't get direct and personal. I want to know how you can fail to understand very simple things.

 

How can you deny every single piece of space travel, satellites when you can see them, planets when you can see them rotating and the colossal, I mean colossal infrastructure of astronomy and cosmology that study the universe. 

Nobody can genuinely call all that made up with honesty, it's about 10 levels above impossible for it all to be fake and fabricated. 

 

Answer this directly please. Amateur radio hams perform EME bounces quite routinely within their radio clubs, on their own and all across the world. I've seen it done and it made me go, "hmmm let's go down the pub", but it does work. 

 

https://rsgb.org/main/technical/space-satellites/moonbounce/

https://www.frars.co.uk/eme/

https://w6trw.com/tag/eme/

https://www.dxmaps.com/eme.html

http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/Moonbounce_at_W2PU.pdf

 

There are hundreds and hundreds of clubs doing this. Explain.

[alexa]

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

 

How can you deny every single piece of space travel, satellites when you can see them,

 

Never seen one (Literally)

 

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

planets when you can see them rotating 

 

These are not planets they are stars.

 

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

I mean colossal infrastructure of astronomy and cosmology that study the universe. 

Nobody can genuinely call all that made up with honesty, it's about 10 levels above impossible for it all to be fake and fabricated

 

I agree it's not fake, I never said it was, it's just that space isn't what we think it is., there is a firmament then there is water above that, then the Heavens

 

1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

Answer this directly please. Amateur radio hams perform EME bounces quite routinely within their radio clubs, on their own and all across the world. I've seen it done and it made me go,

 

Neither am I saying that signals don't bounce of the moon, what I am saying is that space is not what we think it is, look, here is a picture depicting how I believe this space to be.

 

Ist    We have the underworld

2nd We have the earth

3rd We have skies (our atmosphere)

4h We have the firmament Containing the stars, moon and the sun, which by the way rotates every 24 hours

5th We have the waters above

6th We have the gates of heaven,

7th We have the Heaven of Heavens (Gods throne, which by the way is an anagram of NORTH, the north star Polaris)

 

 

 

 

So what all this gobbledygook of equations is all about beats me, b/c it's so simple, God is not a God of confusion.

Edited September 19, 2020 by alexa

[alexa]

All I'm saying is that NASA & these Space agencies, fake all this space sh*t with their fake rockets, flying saucers,  Kirk and Mr Spock  to deceive us all.

It's all disney stuff which has captured the nations beliefs.

[Comedy Time]

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

Never seen one (Literally)

 

Really??? Your basis for denying the existence of trackable satellites, including the highly visible ISS is that you personally haven't seen one.

 

https://www.satflare.com/track.asp

 

Radio Hams all around the world connect with satellites routinely. Companies own their own one and use it for purpose.

Weather satellites, FFS sending real time pictures down continuously!

 

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

These are not planets they are stars.

 

A thousand facepalms at that! Astronomers track, photograph and sequence things like this all the time.

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

I agree it's not fake, I never said it was, it's just that space isn't what we think it is., there is a firmament then there is water above that, then the Heavens

 

 

It is exactly what WE think it is and those people view objects light years away in space. Please don't include yourself in the communal "we", your claim is proven nonsense.

 

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

Neither am I saying that signals don't bounce of the moon, what I am saying is that space is not what we think it is

 

The signals travelling at measurable light speed take 2.5 seconds to return. Now does that confuse you in anyway? So you aren't denying EME.

Are you denying the speed of light?

 

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

here is a picture depicting how I believe this space to be.

 

Ist    We have the underworld 2nd We have the earth 3rd We have skies (our atmosphere) 4h We have the firmament Containing the stars, moon and the sun, which by the way rotates every 24 hours 5th We have the waters above 6th We have the gates of heaven, 7th We have the Heaven of Heavens (Gods throne, which by the way is an anagram of NORTH, the north star Polaris).

 

Complete gibberish.

 

43 minutes ago, alexa said:

So what all this gobbledygook of equations is all about beats me, b/c it's so simple, God is not a God of confusion.

 

That is the problem. It isn't "gobbledygook" and "it beats" you. Your lack of understanding of mathematics and apparently quite a large portion, if not all of science is the problem.

 

Do you have an understanding of 100% verifiable reality - Can you respond to this?

• You are standing on the equator and the Sun is directly overhead. 
• According to the flat earth community it is 3000 miles away.
• In 6 hours time it is just about to set.
• You are in French Guiana and six hours later the Sun is directly above Ethiopia - verifiably so.
• Distance roughly between those is 6,300 miles.

Even on the totally unfeasible flat earth map (and proven so with aircraft routes) the distance is still about the same.

 

Now, I don't care whether you are good or crap with maths, ANYBODY can put figures into an automatic calculator. The Sun is a couple of degrees above the horizon.

http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm

 

A= 2   (degrees)

a = 3000 (miles)

 

Now go off and put in the figures and read out what it says for b, that is the distance between the observer on French Guiana and where the Sun is above Ethiopia. I make it 85,900 miles.

Can you see the major problem here with your perception of reality. ALL of this is fact. NONE of it is gobbledygook.

[alexa]

2 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Not real lol'z, two thousand face palms back to you.

 

 

[Comedy Time]

5 minutes ago, alexa said:

Not real lol'z, two thousand face palms back to you.

 

That gif is real enough. I've seen Jupiter through a quality telescope at many different times and it has a different face each time. It is rotating. As is Mars, Venus and all the other planets.

If somebody nailed you to a telescope you would still deny all of this.

 It is utterly pathetic that you avoid an enormous number of posts completely because you are afraid to be wrong. Now address the post properly.

 

Do you have an understanding of 100% verifiable reality - Can you respond to this?

• You are standing on the equator and the Sun is directly overhead. 
• According to the flat earth community it is 3000 miles away.
• In 6 hours time it is just about to set.
• You are in French Guiana and six hours later the Sun is directly above Ethiopia - verifiably so.
• Distance roughly between those is 6,300 miles.

Even on the totally unfeasible flat earth map (and proven so with aircraft routes) the distance is still about the same.

 

Now, I don't care whether you are good or crap with maths, ANYBODY can put figures into an automatic calculator. The Sun is a couple of degrees above the horizon.

http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm

 

A= 2   (degrees)

a = 3000 (miles)

 

Now go off and put in the figures and read out what it says for b, that is the distance between the observer on French Guiana and where the Sun is above Ethiopia. I make it 85,900 miles.

Can you see the major problem here with your perception of reality. ALL of this is fact. NONE of it is gobbledygook.

 

[alexa]

2 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

That gif is real enough.

 I'm sorry but it's not, you've been had.

[Comedy Time]

56 minutes ago, alexa said:

 I'm sorry but it's not, you've been had.

 

Why are you so afraid to answer the full post? 

[alexa]

I'm not, it just that you afraid to face the truth.

[Comedy Time]

19 minutes ago, alexa said:

I'm not, it just that you afraid to face the truth.

 

Explain the truth in this......!!

 

Can you respond to this?

• You are standing on the equator and the Sun is directly overhead. 
• According to the flat earth community it is 3000 miles away.
• In 6 hours time it is just about to set.
• You are in French Guiana and six hours later the Sun is directly above Ethiopia - verifiably so.
• Distance roughly between those is 6,300 miles.

Even on the totally unfeasible flat earth map (and proven so with aircraft routes) the distance is still about the same.

 

Now, I don't care whether you are good or crap with maths, ANYBODY can put figures into an automatic calculator. The Sun is a couple of degrees above the horizon.

http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm

 

A= 2   (degrees)

a = 3000 (miles)

 

Now go off and put in the figures and read out what it says for b, that is the distance between the observer on French Guiana and where the Sun is above Ethiopia. I make it 85,900 miles.

Can you see the major problem here with your perception of reality. ALL of this is fact. NONE of it is gobbledygook.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

57 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

 

MOD NOTE :

Do not change people's quotes. 

Ever. 

Thanks 

BC 

[Comedy Time]

3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

 

MOD NOTE :

Do not change people's quotes. 

Ever. 

Thanks 

BC 

 

Sorry Alexa hope you did not get too offended. All this diversion  and you still haven't answered the difficult post. 

 

BC you just altered my quote to a blank.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Comedy Time