alexa Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Space exist in movies only. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 My bloody head hurts again ,that's twice in one day ,your obviously not very nice as you love to inflict pain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, peter said: My bloody head hurts again ,that's twice in one day ,your obviously not very nice as you love to inflict pain LOL'z Well you know me Peter, I only give the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hmm ... the space bubbles aren't bubbles, they aren't round, they seem to be debris mostly flat in shape. They don't act like bubbles if the idea is that the entire thing is filmed under water. As for the interesting idea that they have lost the technology ... what I believe they mean is that a programme of space rockets must be developed step by step, like SpaceX is doing right now, and it takes a long time. Engineering is like a lineage. It's not that you say oh let's go to the Moon and you create a perfect draft build it and up you go ... now, each part of the machinery must be engineered, tested, improved and so on ... because if any small problem occurs in any part of the technology then everyone dies. So it takes time. What they have lost is that engineering tool chain. Also things like the suppliers of your raw materials must be the same, because copper today is not the same as copper of 50 years ago. Of course they could do it but it takes time. Personally I have dived down under the water and been high up on mountains and it does become obviously difficult to survive, so I don't believe we can travel to other planets and be just fine ... in fact we inhabit a very small organic portion of the Earth. Not much higher or lower and you can't exist. And I have been up in a plane, even in Concorde I went with my dad years ago ... and I have been to Cape Kennedy ... so I have no problem with thinking that with a lot of money they can put people up in space. And when you are up high and you look up it does start to look very dark blue so that space is black I have no issue with. And standing on a beach even I can detect the slight curvature of the Earth. But there are many lies out there, mostly inside the human head which is a false-personality. Unfortunately the endless fault finding and mistake pointing is part of the insanity of human beings ... they are excellent at hurting each other blaming each other and destroying each other. At finding truth they are not very interested in. Thats why every so often they start hating each other enough to start a world war and kill each other. There are people who will tell you that because 911 was not carried out according to the official story ... that therefore every single thing in the world is a lie. But you should be wary of such people, they will destroy in you .. your reason. afaik 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Sorry to our ufo, ssp believers, but space, as this [near] "infinite vacuum" is 100% a man made construct. CHANGE MY MIND! If this can be done without the use of logical fallacies such as, but not limited to: Argument from authority - Wikipedia <---You can't just freemasons say this is true Fallacies of Presumption <---You can't assume something NOT PROVEN and then base everything off that Reification (fallacy) - Wikipedia <---YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMETHING UP AND TREAT IT AS REAL False premise - Wikipedia <---Obvious (at least should be) False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. I will be the first to admit that I was wrong. Keep in mind: Fallacy... a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid Good luck! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnah Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, bflat said: Sorry to our ufo, ssp believers, but space, as this [near] "infinite vacuum" is 100% a man made construct. CHANGE MY MIND! If this can be done without the use of logical fallacies such as, but not limited to: Planet has gravity, Atmosphere is held in place by gravity Atmosphere gets thinner further away - as gravities effect reduces molecules tend to clump round a dense point thus between planets theres little out there. The above is all entirely logical from my understanding of Physics. So why dont you explain why it isnt possible - thus people have the chance to evaluate the science. its not possible its fake - illuminati or whatever hoax - is your position but it isn't a scientific argument. Edited August 7, 2020 by Eldnah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Eldnah said: So why dont you explain why it isnt possible - thus people have the chance to evaluate the science. One of the reasons is that earth is enclosed by the Firmament (Dome) and it's impossible for rockets to penetrate this, and there is no where to go. Here is Bill Nye admitting to it, which is unusual for him as he is usually all about space. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnah Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Thats just the usual take what the man says cut out context - isolate a few phrases and voila man appears to say something very differrent to his actual statement. Earth is a closed system - that doesn't mean what you think it means. It simply means everything on Earth is produced on earth (excluding heat/light) there is no alternative source for food / material We cannot leave the earth - Sloooow dowwwn repeeeat We cannnooot Leeaave , carefully omit rest of sentence ie There is nowhere to go We cannot leave the earth There is nowhere to go - does not mean as the video desperately tries to twist words beyond meaning to suggest that its impossible to leave the planet and visit space . The whole sentence - with the carefully ommitted context means - We cannot just leave here and go to another planet - there is no viable alternative. Edited August 7, 2020 by Eldnah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eldnah said: We cannot leave the earth There is nowhere to go - does not mean as the video desperately tries to twist words beyond meaning to suggest that its impossible to leave the planet and visit space . Sorry @Eldnah but this is exactly what it means. There is no space (as we think of space) to enter. We can't get past the Firmament. Edited August 7, 2020 by alexa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnah Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, alexa said: Sorry @Eldnah but this is exactly what it means. There is no space (as we think of space) to enter. No thats what the video has been cut to suggest - it only even remotely translates into that if you desperately need it to to fit a narrative. Wze live in a world reliant on satellite comms nav and entertainement - pretty big hint really space exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Given To Fly Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) NASA is full of shite. just look at the logo: a serpent-like Tongue makes an anagram of saTan. Edited August 9, 2020 by Given To Fly T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Given To Fly said: NASA is full of shite. They are full of utter garbage and tripe, what gets me is that they get paid Millions from the gullible masses in America to put out fake everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THESTRONG-THEVALIANT Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I am not convinced! I believe space exists. I tried to look into the Flat Earth stuff but it does not hold up (for me). I have not encountered the compelling evidence yet that it is so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasmina Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 At the end of the day it's still a matrix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 5:09 PM, alexa said: One of the reasons is that earth is enclosed by the Firmament (Dome) and it's impossible for rockets to penetrate this, and there is no where to go. Here is Bill Nye admitting to it, which is unusual for him as he is usually all about space. My head is hurting again , funny how the mouth doesn't sync with the words,but I'm sure you know this ,you just want to cause me pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 hours ago, peter said: funny how the mouth doesn't sync with the words Yes it does! Your just trying to get your own back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, alexa said: Yes it does! Your just trying to get your own back . Your such a wind up the clock spring will break very shortly and where will you be then Edited August 17, 2020 by peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, peter said: Your such a wind up the clock spring will break very shortly and where will you be then Ha! Not spinning around on some senseless Globe hurtling through this supposed endless space. My feet will be firmly on this immovable, stabilized, fixed flat earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 17 hours ago, alexa said: Ha! Not spinning around on some senseless Globe hurtling through this supposed endless space. My feet will be firmly on this immovable, stabilized, fixed flat earth Have you been up a very high mountain? The air density is significantly lower. If you climb Everest it is very difficult to breath with the drop in pressure limiting the amount of oxygen. The air compresses at sea level and gets progressively less compressed the higher you go. Question for you to avoid: Does air pressure decrease as you gain altitude? I cannot envisage anyone could be that dumb to deny this, it is one of the limiting factors in aircraft maximum altitude. It is fairly obvious that pressure gets progressively less and less until such a point that there is virtually none at all. There is no magic vacuum next to atmosphere. The whole atmosphere is held in place by gravity. A similar thing happens in the ocean the deeper you get - the pressure just keeps increasing. Your only recourse is to deny everything that literally billions of scientists work with and understand - it is the most incredible arrogance for you to assume that just because you don't understand how this incredibly obvious thing works, that your crazy claim is correct and every single person who knows otherwise is somehow mistaken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Carlos said: Have you been up a very high mountain? The air density is significantly lower. If you climb Everest it is very difficult to breath with the drop in pressure limiting the amount of oxygen. The air compresses at sea level and gets progressively less compressed the higher you go. Question for you to avoid: Does air pressure decrease as you gain altitude? I cannot envisage anyone could be that dumb to deny this, it is one of the limiting factors in aircraft maximum altitude. It is fairly obvious that pressure gets progressively less and less until such a point that there is virtually none at all. There is no magic vacuum next to atmosphere. The whole atmosphere is held in place by gravity. A similar thing happens in the ocean the deeper you get - the pressure just keeps increasing. Your only recourse is to deny everything that literally billions of scientists work with and understand - it is the most incredible arrogance for you to assume that just because you don't understand how this incredibly obvious thing works, that your crazy claim is correct and every single person who knows otherwise is somehow mistaken! Thank you ,I offered to explain the great vacuum paradox ( only in their minds ) but they didn't take me up on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 20 hours ago, alexa said: Ha! Not spinning around on some senseless Globe hurtling through this supposed endless space. My feet will be firmly on this immovable, stabilized, fixed flat earth Actually I hope you are on a fixed flat earth somewhere as this reality is not big enough for the both of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, peter said: Thank you ,I offered to explain the great vacuum paradox ( only in their minds ) but they didn't take me up on it No offense Peter but where and when did you offer to explain this ? In my reality or yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, alexa said: No offense Peter but where and when did you offer to explain this ? In my reality or yours The bottom of page 75 of the flat earth thread to the flat one and earlier to Zark the bottom of page 71, neither took me up on it Edited August 18, 2020 by peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Carlos said: There is no magic vacuum next to atmosphere. The whole atmosphere is held in place by gravity 6 hours ago, Carlos said: The whole atmosphere is held in place by gravity. So it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the Firmament/Dome holding it in then ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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