Non-Duality

[Angelo Dominic]

I am curious to learn when exactly David Icke became "aware" of our oneness (infinite unconditional love); the only truth which is often coined: non-duality?  When in his life did that revelation come?  I am also wondering if he has ever met and spoken at length to Rupert Spira?

[5pac3@5tat10n]

Hi

Checkout the late great Alan Watts.

[rideforever]

Non duality is nonsense.  As the world culture has declined so has spirituality, with so many fools like Spira sitting with their hands in their lap always the same scene with a stupid vase of flowers on a table next to them ... and they give these stupid sessions with a crowd of fan girls.  They say awareness is the awareness of the awareness, nothingness is beingness, pointing to the oneness of the oneness.   It's like a vain cult of idiots.

Such is the state of spirituality in the world, nothing is untouched by the Marxists and the degeneration they have created right across the society from the degeneration of education , medicine, journalism ... should we really expect spirituality to be untouched.  Hardly, it was the first to be degenerated.

 

It's incredible how low these nondual people are, sitting on their backsides with their tattoos and stupid haircuts, streaming themselves, the oneness is the oneness of the oneness ... it's like the religion in Logan's run, where everyone smiles soulless smiles and claps on cue.  Later the 'guridiot' is prosecuted for screwing the whole front row.

 

Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Bodhidharma ... would vomit on such people.

They were warriors, they burnt down everything they had to be on their own in the truth, to search and practice, year after year, by themselves ... slowly something dawn inside them.

 

The modern millennial dross streaming there stupid vase of flowers, and their followers ... the oneness is the oneness of the fucking awareness of the oneness.

Christ, this whole scene is worse than death.

 

When you go to sleep at night, somebody else in Taiwan wakes up.  They live, and you do not live.

And the same will happen to you unless you do the real work which is not for free.

Ultimately very few people do that work, because they do not do what Jesus Buddha and the old sages did.

They just want to sit around until they are thrown into a hole in the ground.

They never cared one way or the other.

 

Human life is sad and beautiful.
But somehow they just don't get it.
Jesus tried to save them and they killed him.
By mistake.
Buddha ... people imagine that Buddha said we don't exist.
But if you read carefully, he spent his entire life believing we don't exist until right at the end under the Bodhi tree he finally finally he relented and accepted that he did exist and touched the ground in front of him.  But today people don't quite understand what that story really means.
Terrifyingly sad the whole thing.
People are terrified to exist, and are very lost.
Running around madly looking for answers.
 

Edited August 17, 2020 by rideforever

[Mr H]

1 hour ago, rideforever said:

Non duality is nonsense.  As the world culture has declined so has spirituality, with so many fools like Spira sitting with their hands in their lap always the same scene with a stupid vase of flowers on a table next to them ... and they give these stupid sessions with a crowd of fan girls.  They say awareness is the awareness of the awareness, nothingness is beingness, pointing to the oneness of the oneness.   It's like a vain cult of idiots.

Such is the state of spirituality in the world, nothing is untouched by the Marxists and the degeneration they have created right across the society from the degeneration of education , medicine, journalism ... should we really expect spirituality to be untouched.  Hardly, it was the first to be degenerated.

 

It's incredible how low these nondual people are, sitting on their backsides with their tattoos and stupid haircuts, streaming themselves, the oneness is the oneness of the oneness ... it's like the religion in Logan's run, where everyone smiles soulless smiles and claps on cue.  Later the 'guridiot' is prosecuted for screwing the whole front row.

 

Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Bodhidharma ... would vomit on such people.

They were warriors, they burnt down everything they had to be on their own in the truth, to search and practice, year after year, by themselves ... slowly something dawn inside them.

 

The modern millennial dross streaming there stupid vase of flowers, and their followers ... the oneness is the oneness of the fucking awareness of the oneness.

Christ, this whole scene is worse than death.

 

When you go to sleep at night, somebody else in Taiwan wakes up.  They live, and you do not live.

And the same will happen to you unless you do the real work which is not for free.

Ultimately very few people do that work, because they do not do what Jesus Buddha and the old sages did.

They just want to sit around until they are thrown into a hole in the ground.

They never cared one way or the other.

 

Human life is sad and beautiful.
But somehow they just don't get it.
Jesus tried to save them and they killed him.
By mistake.
Buddha ... people imagine that Buddha said we don't exist.
But if you read carefully, he spent his entire life believing we don't exist until right at the end under the Bodhi tree he finally finally he relented and accepted that he did exist and touched the ground in front of him.  But today people don't quite understand what that story really means.
Terrifyingly sad the whole thing.
People are terrified to exist, and are very lost.
Running around madly looking for answers.
 

 

I am a student of Rupert's. 

 

It's the first time though, anybody has described me the way you have!  lol

 

Maybe I should c&p onto my tinder profile?

[Michi713]

4 hours ago, rideforever said:

always the same scene with a stupid vase of flowers on a table next to them .

 

And why do talking heads always have to comment in front of a bookcase? I’m a learned doctor look at my bookcase.  
Obama’s bookcase is looking pretty sparse.  Too many knick knacks.  No book reading MF!

 

 

 

[rideforever]

Rupert Spira particularly makes me vomit.
He is the effeminate donkey version.

They all copy Eckhart Tolle, their little outfit, the stupid vase of flowers, the scarf around their neck and the tone of voice.

"Mr Spira why is it that .... whatever ..."
"Ah, yes ... thank you ... thank you for your question ... thank you ... and thank you once again .... well the oneness is the oneness of the oneness ... that was a beautiful pointing ... who is it that is the oneness of ... "

Do fuck off.

I hate these people.

It is the spiritual version of .... Tracey Emins modern art, taking a dump in her bed and then selling it for a million quid to fools.

 

They can't even come up with their own bullshit, they have to copy Eckhart Tolle.

"I am a student of Rupert" .- he doesn't have students, just corpses.

 

And let's be 100% fucking clear this .... this has nothing whatsoever to do with any Indian spiritual traditions.  Nothing.

It is exactly like the lycra clad stretching sexy body yoga Western fools ... who think purple spandex has anything to do with Patanjali.  No, nothing.

 

Not interested.

 

Spirituality is not a joke.  But modern people .... materialism has made a sad show in many fields of human life.  Better to find a different ilk of teacher, that's my opinion.

 

[Michi713]

I notice backgrounds cause I have Aspergers.  
 

What’s with Dr. Fauci’s home office?  Is that a cat litter box in the corner?  Clean up you sloppy bastard!

 

 

[BlueSky]

When I first heard of non duality I looked it up. I saw one guy called Tony Parsons. I wasn't impressed to say the least. In fact it was embarrassing. 

[rideforever]

Yes the book cases Michi ... same everywhere, for instance in the homes of "psychotherapists" they always have bookcases or stupid certificates, same with qigong teachers and so on.  They cling to material signs because there is nothing inside them.  Those trinkets are all they have, they have no soul.  Same with doctors who cling to their "vaccines" because they don't know the first thing about medicine.

 

Non duality and the cult of "emptiness" or non-existence ... are exactly the religion of Marxists.  You don't exist you are empty sheep.  Be wary of this cult of self destruction.

 

You are meant to exist, to come into genuine soulful individual existence, to grow into your faculties, to own yourself, to be a fucking eagle, a soul, a shard of the light, a flesh and blood human divine creature with your own self-actualization, your own mind, your own breath, you are a soul.

 

[rideforever]

Tony Parsons  held his little meetings in Hampstead with all the middle class knobs who were too posh to push ... or make any effort, they just like to go to a meeting where somebody tells them everything is just okay ... like when the doctor injects you.  Parsons said that sometimes he in nondual sometimes he is not and he doesn't care.  Well for those interested in such things, what this means is his "state" s completely unstable and won't survive the death of the body.

But before any of that state business ... you have to care that you exist, you have to protect yourself and nurture yourself, you must be sincere and staty away from the smiley sheep who are talking graves.

 

 

[BlueSky]

Escapism and avoidance has been my experience so far with people into this. In one case if pushed the rage starts to leak. 

[BlueSky]

Maybe it's the neo where the issues are. 

 

 

[shabbirss]

the path to freedom is not self development, its self destruction-think fight club

Edited August 18, 2020 by shabbirss

[rideforever]

1 hour ago, BlueSky said:

Maybe it's the neo where the issues are. 

 

Spare me the white people talking about Yoga.  The Yoga Sutras  that she is quoting is not an Advaita text but these fools don't know the different ... it's from exotic Inja, including the pajamas.  But maybe she realises something is wrong with sitting on your arse all the time watching a vase of flowers, so I credit her there.
 

Nisargadatta Maharaj an Advaita teacher in Mumbai after his work in the daytime spent 3 or 4 hours every night in meditation and practice and he did that for about 3 years and he was taught hand to mouth by his own teacher personally sitting in his house so had very clear guidance.  After that great effort then he reached realisation.  And then he was the witness-consciousness that survives death.

White people don't do any of that.  In fact very few people of any colour do that.
Nisargadatta taught for several decades and at the end said that nobody had understood him, except perhaps his biographer who maybe understood something.  It's just not that easy.  White people particularly like to argue about words and talk a lot.
Anyway, if you're interested just do it the old way exactly the same as Nisargadatta did.
 

Edited August 18, 2020 by rideforever

[rideforever]

In Logan's Run the whole city congregates to watch people happily jump to their death.  I don't know how many people really understand that death is coming, or actually care about it.  I have seen in SE Asia, often you see monkeys sitting on piles of garbage happily eating from the bin.  Are people these days much different.

Something is very wrong about this whole picture.

[allymisfit]

On 8/17/2020 at 7:02 PM, 5pac3@5tat10n said:

Hi

Checkout the late great Alan Watts.

Wonderful man. So wise.

[aLLeVi8ed]

On 8/18/2020 at 12:16 AM, rideforever said:

Yes the book cases Michi ... same everywhere, for instance in the homes of "psychotherapists" they always have bookcases or stupid certificates, same with qigong teachers and so on.  They cling to material signs because there is nothing inside them.  Those trinkets are all they have, they have no soul.  Same with doctors who cling to their "vaccines" because they don't know the first thing about medicine.

 

Non duality and the cult of "emptiness" or non-existence ... are exactly the religion of Marxists.  You don't exist you are empty sheep.  Be wary of this cult of self destruction.

 

You are meant to exist, to come into genuine soulful individual existence, to grow into your faculties, to own yourself, to be a fucking eagle, a soul, a shard of the light, a flesh and blood human divine creature with your own self-actualization, your own mind, your own breath, you are a soul.

 

I saw some chick with a couch in the background, topped with pillows that still had tags, an 8 1/2 x 11 American flag on the wall above, and on the right side of the screen, opposite of the side which she just so happened to be placed.... a harp. Because screw a bookcase when you have a f***ing harp. 

[CosmoGenesis]

On 8/17/2020 at 8:03 PM, rideforever said:

Non duality is nonsense.  As the world culture has declined so has spirituality, with so many fools like Spira sitting with their hands in their lap always the same scene with a stupid vase of flowers on a table next to them ... and they give these stupid sessions with a crowd of fan girls.  They say awareness is the awareness of the awareness, nothingness is beingness, pointing to the oneness of the oneness.   It's like a vain cult of idiots.

Such is the state of spirituality in the world, nothing is untouched by the Marxists and the degeneration they have created right across the society from the degeneration of education , medicine, journalism ... should we really expect spirituality to be untouched.  Hardly, it was the first to be degenerated.

 

It's incredible how low these nondual people are, sitting on their backsides with their tattoos and stupid haircuts, streaming themselves, the oneness is the oneness of the oneness ... it's like the religion in Logan's run, where everyone smiles soulless smiles and claps on cue.  Later the 'guridiot' is prosecuted for screwing the whole front row.

 

Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Bodhidharma ... would vomit on such people.

They were warriors, they burnt down everything they had to be on their own in the truth, to search and practice, year after year, by themselves ... slowly something dawn inside them.

 

The modern millennial dross streaming there stupid vase of flowers, and their followers ... the oneness is the oneness of the fucking awareness of the oneness.

Christ, this whole scene is worse than death.

 

When you go to sleep at night, somebody else in Taiwan wakes up.  They live, and you do not live.

And the same will happen to you unless you do the real work which is not for free.

Ultimately very few people do that work, because they do not do what Jesus Buddha and the old sages did.

They just want to sit around until they are thrown into a hole in the ground.

They never cared one way or the other.

 

Human life is sad and beautiful.
But somehow they just don't get it.
Jesus tried to save them and they killed him.
By mistake.
Buddha ... people imagine that Buddha said we don't exist.
But if you read carefully, he spent his entire life believing we don't exist until right at the end under the Bodhi tree he finally finally he relented and accepted that he did exist and touched the ground in front of him.  But today people don't quite understand what that story really means.
Terrifyingly sad the whole thing.
People are terrified to exist, and are very lost.
Running around madly looking for answers.
 

 

Fuck.

 

When a post just.....nails it.

Bravo!

 

Also

 

They never come to the understanding that every unity is also a duality.

 

 

 

Edited March 28, 2021 by CosmoGenesis

[rideforever]

@CosmoGenesis  Good picture, microcosm of the macrocosm

[DougASmall]

On 3/28/2021 at 10:09 PM, CosmoGenesis said:

 

Fuck.

 

When a post just.....nails it.

Bravo!

 

Also

 

They never come to the understanding that every unity is also a duality.

 

 

 

Both of you have no idea. 

 

The ying yang is symbolism of a null set. The symbolism of conflict. 

Two diametrically opposed forces in one entity. 

It is also a hypocrite. It opposes itself. 

Something that opposes itself is self consuming cannibalistic. 

Look at the eyes they are of the others substance. The eye is the desire. 

 

For this to be corrected 

Both need to be reconciled (reborn) 

Turned up rectified. 

Once they are reconciled they become one. 

Thus making peace. 

[peter]

2 hours ago, DougASmall said:

Both of you have no idea. 

 

The ying yang is symbolism of a null set. The symbolism of conflict. 

Two diametrically opposed forces in one entity. 

It is also a hypocrite. It opposes itself. 

Something that opposes itself is self consuming cannibalistic. 

Look at the eyes they are of the others substance. The eye is the desire. 

Well Doug ,that's a fairly broad opening statement, would that be they have no idea about this subject or just in general, as that would indicate that you consider that their respective level of IQ is rather deficient, I may disagree with a lot that rideforever says but funnily enough there is quite a bit I agree with and I certainly don't think he is in anyway shape or form lacking in the cognitive department.

Having said that ,just bear with me Doug ,what if the ying yang symbol is not the symbol of conflict (good evil etc) that everyone thinks it is . I know that the non color of white  symbolizes good and the non color black symbolizes evil in the modern consciousness (the white dove of peace ,the black arts) but what if  white  symbolizes peace and back in the day black in this case was used to symbolize the shimmering blackness that  Eben Alexander III neurosurgeon   mentioned while suffering from bacterial meningitis or David Icke mentions in his books and lectures  as all possibility.  Now for something to exist that contains all possibility it would have to be in a harmonious state to start with just like a 64 tetrahedron grid. So if that is the case maybe the original meaning of the  symbol is peace and harmony

 

3 hours ago, DougASmall said:

For this to be corrected 

Both need to be reconciled (reborn) 

Turned up rectified. 

Once they are reconciled they become one.

If this is indeed the case there is no need to be corrected reborn rectified or to become one ( much easier)

 PS The eye is the desire for what?

[DougASmall]

1 hour ago, peter said:

Having said that ,just bear with me Doug ,what if the ying yang symbol is not the symbol of conflict (good evil etc) that everyone thinks it is . I know that the non color of white  symbolizes good and the non color black symbolizes evil in the modern

If you have two diametrically opposed forces. That each half desire(lust over covet) the other half's substance(property) 

 

That means they are at war as they will fight to protect what they possess. 

 

Two equally opposed forces 

Cancle each other out. An oxymoron. 

 

War is hypocrisy. 

 

Hypocrisy is a lie

 

To have peace you must be equal and of the same polarity and direction. Not to have revolution (rotation) 

 

Peace and truth are the same thing. 

Once you have the two of the same opinions as in agreement they become reconciled become of one mind not duplicitous. 

 

As for colours white is the culmination reflection of all colours

 

Black is the absorption of all colours

The consumption of. No reflection just darkness no light. 

[peter]

9 minutes ago, DougASmall said:

If you have two diametrically opposed forces. That each half desire(lust over covet) the other half's substance(property) 

 

That means they are at war as they will fight to protect what they possess. 

 

Two equally opposed forces 

Cancle each other out. An oxymoron. 

 

War is hypocrisy. 

 

Hypocrisy is a lie

 

To have peace you must be equal and of the same polarity and direction. Not to have revolution (rotation) 

 

Peace and truth are the same thing. 

Once you have the two of the same opinions as in agreement they become reconciled become of one mind not duplicitous. 

 

As for colours white is the culmination reflection of all colours

 

Black is the absorption of all colours

The consumption of. No reflection just darkness no light. 

Doug you never commented at all on what I said  , it may have been an abstract thought but at least I showed you how I arrived at it , as opposed to your blanket  overarching statements eg   

 

Black is the absorption of all colours

The consumption of. No reflection just darkness no light.  

The next word should have been therefore ( and I'll let you take it from here)

 

[DougASmall]

40 minutes ago, DougASmall said:

If you have two diametrically opposed forces. That each half desire(lust over covet) the other half's substance(property) 

 

That means they are at war as they will fight to protect what they possess. 

 

Two equally opposed forces 

Cancle each other out. An oxymoron. 

 

War is hypocrisy. 

 

Hypocrisy is a lie

 

To have peace you must be equal and of the same polarity and direction. Not to have revolution (rotation) 

 

Peace and truth are the same thing. 

Once you have the two of the same opinions as in agreement they become reconciled become of one mind not duplicitous. 

 

As for colours white is the culmination reflection of all colours

 

Black is the absorption of all colours

The consumption of. No reflection just darkness no light. 

And the Lord God called to Adam, and said to him, Is not all the world which I have made manifest before Me; the darkness as the light? and how hast thou thought in thine heart to hide from before Me? The place where thou art concealed, do I not see? Where are the commandments that I commanded thee?

[peter]

1 hour ago, DougASmall said:

And the Lord God called to Adam, and said to him, Is not all the world which I have made manifest before Me; the darkness as the light? and how hast thou thought in thine heart to hide from before Me? The place where thou art concealed, do I not see? Where are the commandments that I commanded thee?

And your point is? 

How do you know personally, god actually called to adam   let alone what he said

 Just because you can quote passages from the bible or where ever ,does that make you spiritual etc etc, if I could quote the operating manual of a Laverda  Jota, dose that in turn make me a classic Italian  motor cycle

Edited April 10, 2021 by peter