Grumpy Owl 2,391 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 TikTok: Trump says he will ban Chinese video app in the US President Donald Trump has announced he is banning the Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok in the US. He told reporters he could sign an executive order as early as Saturday. US security officials have expressed concern that the app, owned by Chinese firm ByteDance, could be used to collect the personal data of Americans. TikTok has denied accusations that it is controlled by or shares data with the Chinese government. From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53619287 Quote Why is the US concerned about TikTok? US officials and politicians have raised concerns data collected by ByteDance via TikTok may end up being passed to the Chinese government. The hypocrisy is stunning. So its okay for US companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc etc to 'collect the personal data of Americans'? And who really knows who this data gets shared with? Apart from US, UK and Israeli intelligence services of course. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orange Alert 733 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: TikTok: Trump says he will ban Chinese video app in the US President Donald Trump has announced he is banning the Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok in the US. He told reporters he could sign an executive order as early as Saturday. US security officials have expressed concern that the app, owned by Chinese firm ByteDance, could be used to collect the personal data of Americans. TikTok has denied accusations that it is controlled by or shares data with the Chinese government. From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53619287 The hypocrisy is stunning. So its okay for US companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc etc to 'collect the personal data of Americans'? And who really knows who this data gets shared with? Apart from US, UK and Israeli intelligence services of course. Funny that the mass electronic surveillanvce and data storage on all private citizens, exposed by Edward Snowden in 2013 by the CIA, NSA, Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance (which includes MI5, MI6 and GCHQ), all rubber stamped by the so-called left-wing maverick Obama, now the right-wing champion against the deep state allows it to continue and plays the distraction game with - China is your enemy and is spying on you. Edited August 1, 2020 by Orange Alert 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johndavid 31 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Orange Alert said: Funny that the mass electronic surveillanvce and data storage on all private citizens, exposed by Edward Snowden in 2013 by the CIA, NSA, Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance (which includes Mi5, Mi6 and GCHQ) all rubber stamped by the so-called left-wing maverick Obama. Now the right-wing champion against the deep state allows it to continue and plays the distraction game with - China is your enemy and is spying on you. Lol! I have to admit the exact same thought occurred to me . And I’d say to most people on this forum! The idea that the Chinese government is spying on people - which, no doubt they are, especially their own imprisoned population - but that the top US tech giants aren’t is hilarious! Edited August 1, 2020 by Johndavid 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johndavid 31 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: TikTok: Trump says he will ban Chinese video app in the US President Donald Trump has announced he is banning the Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok in the US. He told reporters he could sign an executive order as early as Saturday. US security officials have expressed concern that the app, owned by Chinese firm ByteDance, could be used to collect the personal data of Americans. TikTok has denied accusations that it is controlled by or shares data with the Chinese government. From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53619287 The hypocrisy is stunning. So its okay for US companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc etc to 'collect the personal data of Americans'? And who really knows who this data gets shared with? Apart from US, UK and Israeli intelligence services of course. Yes, mate you’re right the hypocrisy is stunning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keii 1 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: The hypocrisy is stunning. So its okay for US companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc etc to 'collect the personal data of Americans'? And who really knows who this data gets shared with? Apart from US, UK and Israeli intelligence services of course. Whose hypocrisy? Do you think Trump can press a button and magically make everything he doesn't like disappear but chooses not to? It's complicated, there are all kinds of reasons that change everything, legal and whatnot you're not aware of, in this case the obvious one is that these are US companies. Notice how with these kind of short-sighted conclusions you're creating and fueling your own bias. It's all damn complicated, Trump isn't a god who gets to decide everything. http://www.madnesshub.com/2020/07/google-ceo-admits-company-engages-in.html Edited August 1, 2020 by keii Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy Owl 2,391 Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, keii said: Whose hypocrisy? Do you think Trump can press a button and magically make everything he doesn't like disappear but chooses not to? It's complicated, there are all kinds of reasons that change everything, legal and whatnot you're not aware of, in this case the obvious one is that these are US companies. Notice how with these kind of short-sighted conclusions you're creating and fueling your own bias. It's all damn complicated, Trump isn't a god who gets to decide everything. http://www.madnesshub.com/2020/07/google-ceo-admits-company-engages-in.html I'm looking at the hypocrisy in general, not so much Trump's. I doubt this was even his idea to be honest. But the fact is that this story is designed to get people 'outraged' - outraged that a Chinese company 'could' be harvesting people's personal data and passing it to the Chinese government. While there is little outrage about how much personal data the likes of Facebook, Google, Twitter, Amazon et al are harvesting (and not just US citizens either). 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RE:fresh 8 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Instead of bringing up other things that censor us or intrude Lets take a moment...and think...that one of these facist organizations will be gone and ..wait for it.. Let's not be cynical for once..and grateful instead that Something is happening.. Its too easy to be a hater on everything ..i see that too much in threads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johndavid 31 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, RE:fresh said: Instead of bringing up other things that censor us or intrude Lets take a moment...and think...that one of these facist organizations will be gone and ..wait for it.. Let's not be cynical for once..and grateful instead that Something is happening.. Its too easy to be a hater on everything ..i see that too much in threads It’s hard not to be cynical. Let’s be honest here. They ‘banned’ them ( or as it now seems it will be ‘handed over’ to Microsoft) because they were encroaching on what the ‘American’ ( or, to be more accurate The ELite’s) techs firm were doing. ‘Hi, buddy, it’s our job to spy and collect date on our citizens....fuck off and concentrate on your own neck of the woods... as for trump, he’s probably clueless in all of this. He’s probably sitting in his underwear watching cable tv and firing off tweets at all his enemies. if Fox News do a segment on this, he’ll probably fire off a tweet on it, though. Biden probably wouldn’t know what you were talking about! Edited August 2, 2020 by Johndavid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RE:fresh 8 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Trump is most likely more aware then ppl give credit. Everyone attaches to personas and ideals yet wants to think they are spiritual or enlightened, simultaneously...lol Pascal comes to mind at this point.. Boo pedo gates and global elite tho b.s on Microsoft..i say break up all these companies that can sway the sheep aka public opinion. Let's cancel most universities too and have Real science ...havent seen much real info out therw for years...just regergitated nonsense and recycled old news repackaged...cancel Hollywood too they do nothing for us. Cancel sports too, people need new babysitters aka themselves and facing their inner demons and neurotic ways.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZanderoBandero 50 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just a thought... if America bans tik tok then the UK will surely follow as it always does. So we will no longer have the joy of watching the under pressure, finding it difficult to cope heroes of the NHS singing and dancing while working their butts off during the worst pandemic in history. What a travesty lol. A great loss to society 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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