The Sad State of Alternative News

[strengthandcourage]

80% of alternative media is basically alt right or alt lite white nationalism these days, with sites like Daily Stormer at the far right, and Alex Jones just right of centrist. In between are former conspiracy sites such as Red Ice and Stormfront, with it's tired old separatist talking points. With the vast majority of former conspiracy talk shows focusing on UFO's and reptilians never being able to substantiate their claims beyond the level of "I know a guy...." their audiences evaporated. Without any meaningful evidence, the audiences for these speakers petered out to a tiny fraction of what they once were.

 

What's striking is the complete inability of the alt right and alt lite to make any meaningful sense of this virus hoax. There are only two public figures who clearly acknowledge that viruses are hoaxes: Andrew Kaufman, and David Icke via Andrew Kaufman. That's an awfully short list.

 

EVERY OTHER "ALTERNATIVE" NEW SITE CLAIMS VIRUSES ARE REAL, meaning NO ONE can actually analyze the current situation correctly.

 

Take Jeff Rense for example. He has interviewed David Icke MULTIPLE TIMES since this fake crisis was foisted upon us, with Icke stating explicitly over and over that there are no viruses! It just goes in one ear and out the other. Rense continues to interview weekly, if not daily, some very, very old "virologist" who continues with the hoax virus narrative.

 

Alex Jones is stating blatant lies such as this fake virus "scars your lungs." And he eagerly sells face masks which tells you whose side he's really on.

 

Same thing with Ted and Austin Broer. Ted Broer's exact words: "It'll kill ya!" Uh, no, it will not. Something that doesn't exist cannot by definition, kill you. The FEAR of a fake virus can have detrimental effects in myriad ways but not the hoax in and of itself.

 

The inability of the "alt right" to respond in any meaningful way to this fake crisis is absolutely amazing. There are only THREE public figures who have accurate information:

 

1. andrew kaufman

 

2. david icke via kaufman

 

3. peggy hall on the activist front.

 

That is an astonishingly short list, especially considering the immense amount of information available. Then again, I'm grateful at this point that we have any honest and insightful voices at all.

Edited July 30, 2020 by strengthandcourage

[Truthspoon]

What if you're wrong?

 

Saying viruses are a hoax is disinformation. 

 

Just implicitly believing everything some one tells you isn't being very discerning.

 

 

 

[chud]

2 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

What if you're wrong?

 

Saying viruses are a hoax is disinformation. 

 

Just implicitly believing everything some one tells you isn't being very discerning.

 

 

 

 

how is saying viruses are a myth 'disinformation' ?

 

did you ever see a virus ? did you ever see one inducing a disease or contamination or do you just believe what you're told ?

 

 

[Truthspoon]

45 minutes ago, chud said:

 

how is saying viruses are a myth 'disinformation' ?

 

 

Because it can be demonstrated to be incorrect. 

[Mr H]

A slightly worrying thing to consider if David Icke and Kauffman are the only authorities we can refer to on viruses, when none of them are specialists on the subject................

 

That is not to say I don't have the deepest respect for what they have to say and present on the subject.

[chud]

3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Because it can be demonstrated to be incorrect. 

 

but what's the point of doing that ? viruses and viral infection seem to be a reality to you, so what do you care whether some pretend it's all forgery and mythology ?

 

demonstrating that viruses don't exist requires an elaborate reasoning, while pretending they existed had just taken to support a lie with theory, so it's way easier to spread a lie than to refute it, same way as it's easier to believe a lie than to follow a reasoning... 

 

 

[Fluke]

It depends what you mean by Alt right op. Do you mean actual white supremacists? Because I don't actually know what alt right means. 

 

Ukcolumn seem pretty in the middle and liberal.  

[Truthspoon]

Even Johnny Rotten, who seems to have had his balls chopped off, was on the ITV morning garbage show a few months ago, trying to make out Nigel Farage was representing BNP and National Front...

 

According to the media everyone who doesn't agree with the agenda of more mass immigration and more gay and tranny stuff is Hitler.

 

They seem to be pushing normal people, who used to be centrists, into the far right.

 

The Overton's window has moved so far left, that white replacement, 'death by black man' and mass perversion is now the new normal and you're 'hateful' if you don't support it.

 

We're not the extremists. THEY ARE.

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Truthspoon

[ZuZu]

14 hours ago, strengthandcourage said:

80% of alternative media is basically alt right or alt lite white nationalism these days. 

 

Alex Jones 

 

Lauren Southern

Dave Ruben

Tommy Robinson

Steven Crowder 

Paul Joseph Watson 

Avi Yemini

Ben Shapiro

Alex Jones

Owen Shroyer

Carl Benjamin

Donald Trump

Michael Savage

Breitbart

 

(please add more to this list) 

 

They all have one thing in common

1.) Spread pro Israeli propaganda

2.) Are either Jewish & Zionists, or Noahides & Zionists or Christian Zionists. 

3.) Spread anti-Islamic rhetoric

 

Anyone paying attention to Israeli media 10 years ago would see how Israelis were talking about Globalism being detrimental to the goals of Israel. A country like Israel (a Jewish supremacist state) can not survive in a world of open borders. It would need nationalism. But only cultural national for the world and ethnical nationalism for Israel. In order for this to be achieved, Mossad and pro Zionists had to co-opt every nationalist movement and turn it to a pro Israeli organization. 

 

The BLM being anti-Israel is no accident. This is all by design. The left is there to create chaos, while the right restore order. 

 

The goals

*Destroy democracies

*Create chaos 

*Expand Israel

*Build the 3rd Temple

*Create their own living messiah

*Have the world worship Israel adhering to Noahide laws

 

 

All this lunacy is by design. And when people look online to see what's the truth, they run into gatekeepers like the above. 

[strengthandcourage]

I suppose I'll have to settle for snippets or nuggets of accurate information.

 

After all, while Ted Broer continually insists it's not all about the jews (which I'm sure he says in order to avoid a total media ban), today he did in fact, admit that the jews are responsible for just about every disaster that is incurred upon us.

He just lets it slip every once in a while otherwise the cognitive dissonance gets to be too much for him and he has to spill the beans.

 

Unfortunately, he's still claiming that viruses are real, almost certainly because he hawks vitamins in order to stay afloat.

 

As you may or may not know, "Dr." Ted Broer is not a doctor. That's an honorary title he was given after donating large sums of money to a college so they could build a football stadium.

 

That's the way it's gonna have to be: find bits and pieces of the truth here and there, knowing that just about every single media source is severely compromised.

[oddsnsods]

3 hours ago, ZuZu said:

 

Lauren Southern

Dave Ruben

Tommy Robinson

Steven Crowder 

Paul Joseph Watson 

Avi Yemini

Ben Shapiro

Alex Jones

Owen Shroyer

Carl Benjamin

Donald Trump

Michael Savage

Breitbart

 

(please add more to this list) 

 

They all have one thing in common

1.) Spread pro Israeli propaganda

2.) Are either Jewish & Zionists, or Noahides & Zionists or Christian Zionists. 

3.) Spread anti-Islamic rhetoric

 

Anyone paying attention to Israeli media 10 years ago would see how Israelis were talking about Globalism being detrimental to the goals of Israel. A country like Israel (a Jewish supremacist state) can not survive in a world of open borders. It would need nationalism. But only cultural national for the world and ethnical nationalism for Israel. In order for this to be achieved, Mossad and pro Zionists had to co-opt every nationalist movement and turn it to a pro Israeli organization. 

 

The BLM being anti-Israel is no accident. This is all by design. The left is there to create chaos, while the right restore order. 

 

The goals

*Destroy democracies

*Create chaos 

*Expand Israel

*Build the 3rd Temple

*Create their own living messiah

*Have the world worship Israel adhering to Noahide laws

 

 

All this lunacy is by design. And when people look online to see what's the truth, they run into gatekeepers like the above. 

 

Welcome to the forum ZuZu totally to the point.

[strengthandcourage]

The crazy thing is, 99% of all churches are all in on this insanity too!

 

I was going to watch a vid from a church on "end times" or something to that effect. The pastor admitted he's hundreds of thousands of dollars in the hole so he agreed to "reopen" "requiring" face masks.

 

So now almost every single church is compromised too.

 

This shit's gonna be straight up like the hunger games where we're shooting pigeons, or digging up worms and nibbling on crickets. WTF?!?

 

I simply could not have imagined the extraordinary levels of stupid and passivity I see all around me.

 

I just read back the last two sentences. I wasn't even trying to be negative, just stream of consciousness. I'm going to report back on some positivity, some of the push back I'm engaging in and the successes we are having.

Edited July 30, 2020 by strengthandcourage

[rooey]

try stream your consciousness positively? 

[Sentient Being]

As soon as you think there is a difference between left and right when it comes to MSM and government then you are locked into a paradigm. Both are the same.

 

Alternative (and social) media is constantly being hi-jacked with trolls unfortunately. The honey-trap works for so long then you see through it.

 

I, personally, just question everything and find as many other sources as possible.

 

One piece of advice I will give though... FOLLOW THE MONEY $$$£££... WHO IS FUNDING THEM.

[Orange Alert]

On 7/30/2020 at 4:41 AM, strengthandcourage said:

Alex Jones he eagerly sells face masks which tells you whose side he's really on.

+1

I have never been keen on Alex Jones's immature, rant act and ever since he started to support Trump, the pretend anti-establishment candidate, he lost all credibility.   The Info Wars COVID compliance mask - beyond a joke!

 

 

[Jaquiby]

My father listened to him so much over the years, i couldn't bare it, all I heard was him shouting constantly.  Glad I never took any notice now that I've seen that mask.

[HistoryIsComplex]

Who wants to bet that right after COVID is "over", all the MSM news sites are going to get a complete REDESIGN? (New website layout, new colors, new broadcast graphics and so forth...)

 

All the news is going to be "economic crash", "recession", "unemployment", "health problems on the rise", "depression and suicides are up"...

 

The MSM will try to distract from its BIG role in all this by "RE-BRANDING" themselves big time. New look. New faces. New music. New graphics. New slogans.

 

By the time COVID is over, well over 50% of the public will probably be FURIOUS with those who were in charge DURING COVID. That includes the MSM.

 

So we are probably going to get NEW POLITICIANS as well.

 

 

[Smokestack Lightnin']

I couldn't disagree more with this post. I listen to UK Column News regularly. Another of my favourites is Max Igun (thecrowhouse) from Brisbane. It was Max Igun who broke down Brenton Tarrant's selfie video of him killing the Muslims in Christchurch last year. He broke it down into 30,000 + frames so that in 3/4 still frames you could see a person standing behind the killer, running over to a wall and in one frame, some guy peering in through a window. I almost fell out my seat when I watched that   I couldn't believe what I was watching and at first disbelieved the fact that there was someone standing behind the killer. Then the car at the mosque drove off and was video'd going through a police road block. (I often wondered who video'd that.)  

Vernon Coleman is ace! Spyro something from Westmonster is very articulate as is Jim Bercow from Mexico. There are loads more.  

 

There are epidemiologists and immunologists who are not in the back pockets of Gates like Drs Rashid Buttar, Shiva Aryyadurai, Eriksen who have all had their videos deleted in most cases for being angry at having their profession trashed. I've no time for the blustering and shouty Alex Jones or others like him who try to appeal to the easily led in my opinion. They come out with some good info but it's all mixed up with bullshit and I can't be arsed trying to work out which is which.     

Edited August 4, 2020 by Smokestack Lightnin'

[Smokestack Lightnin']

On 8/1/2020 at 7:29 PM, Orange Alert said:

+1

I have never been keen on Alex Jones's immature, rant act and ever since he started to support Trump, the pretend anti-establishment candidate, he lost all credibility.   The Info Wars COVID compliance mask - beyond a joke!

 

 

Yep...too much bluster and over the top stuff to be credible. I prefer calm and reasoned rhetoric to having someone jump down my throat. 

[ZanderoBandero]

The way I.see it... news is news. Theres no mainstream or alternative or left or right. It's all just news. You either like it or you don't. 

The more we label things, the more complicated and confusing our lives become. 

If we keep it simple and don't attach labels to things the world will be a happier more beautiful place

 

[HistoryIsComplex]

[labrats]

22 hours ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Or somethings are not meant to be shared, or can be hazardous to your health

[SimonTV]

What absolute nonsense post in the OP. The alternative media is greater and bigger than ever and there are people all across the right from libertarians to national socialists to right leaning liberals and everything in between. This constant attempt to demonize the alternative or new media as I call it as far right and white supremacist is ridiculous. It is just a cheap attempt by the legacy media to smear the new competition in the market. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by SimonTV

[rideforever]

It's not about who's got the information.

Everyone is becoming a vegetable, that's the problem.

 

Is there any news on the internet ?
Not too long ago people would read broadsheets cover to cover, and serious journalists would be employed, and they would read books and study and discussions were at a high level.

I feel that the internet will lead to extinction, it just damages human knowledge, and functions at a physiological level.

It destroys the kind of income streams that lead to serious news and serious people.

And replaces everything with total garbage.

 

I see zero percent chance of mankind not becoming extinct if the internet still functions.

It just plays on the weaknesses of the species.

It opens up the weaknesses and ... I just can't see any solutions unless the internet is switched off.

As time goes on the damage that the internet is doing is penetrating further into society until at some point the last brick will be removed, then it will collapse.

 

I see zero signs of any improvement, and there are huge armies of people working to bring it about even faster.

Perhaps other people see better signs than me.

 

But it seems clear now that being on your own is essential to develop intelligence, and slow reading, and traditions of intelligence.

Each part of society, like the judiciary is or was like a lineage of a certain kind of intelligence.

The civil service as well.

Every aspect of society was like a chain of wisdom, and so society was full of wisdom held together by those connections.

Now ... every day it seems that the words on the internet are replacing all aspects of human life.

It is the ego-false-personality on steroids having an orgasm.

It is a disease.

 

 

 

[SimonTV]

If European countries are seeing reductions in literacy rates this is because of mass immigration and not because of the internet. The internet has opened up information, like the printing press before it, to people in all different types of new ways. Saying that the internet is destroying journalism as a concept is fascicle like saying that cars are putting the horses out of work. Journalism was in decline before the internet expanded in to what it is today, it sort of peaked in the 90s in its credibility and has been in decline ever since. The days of respected New York times columnists has been replaced with woke green haired activists fresh out of university. They have paved the road to their own destruction and now finding blame in the competition. People are still paying subscriptions for what they consider to be quality journalism in this day age. The news remains a big business which new media will gladly fill the void of when the legacy media gives up. It is up the new media to create their own respected journalists and quality media that people will be willing to pay for. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by SimonTV