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On 6/4/2023 at 3:00 PM, Jason57 said:

If the Anti Christ is a person couldn't someone assassinate him/her? The all knowing God wouldn't see that coming. Not that God sees much anyway

 

Rachel,

Have you not seen a movie called Fallen? It's a good movie.

He cannot be killed....oops sorry for the spoiler but still good watching. ūüėČ

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9 minutes ago, Jason57 said:

I've heard of it, but not seen it. So i'm guessing the anti christ won't be human?

 

If you watched the movie, you will understand. anti christ can be in a person or in multiple person.

No difference from spirit posession. Many people carries multiple dead people/parasites.

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1 minute ago, DaleP said:

 

If you watched the movie, you will understand. anti christ can be in a person or in multiple person.

No difference from spirit posession. Many people carries multiple dead people/parasites.

That sounds like some kind of horror movie stuff

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58 minutes ago, Jason57 said:

But then, the Bible states that the Anti Christ will be cast into a lake of fire, so surely that will be the end of him/it.

 

I don't know ins and outs of the deal he has with Lucifer. Who knows.

If he knows how to do walk-ins, may be he'll never die. Basically, you just keep on body jumping. It's all explained in the movie.

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2 hours ago, Jason57 said:

But then, the Bible states that the Anti Christ will be cast into a lake of fire, so surely that will be the end of him/it.

 

Hell is a place of fire and brimstone, and it's Satan's home according to the mainstream tradition. So I doubt if a lake of fire will be much of a problem for him. Perhaps it'll be like exiling him away from this worldly dimension in the same tradition as the demons in modern literature - eg Sauron, Brona, Voldemort.

 

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18 hours ago, Bombadil said:

What makes him that?

He was born to be the ‚ÄúChosen One‚ÄĚ. - I don‚Äôt know how his family new it, but ever since he was born his family raised him to be the Supreme Ruler. - It‚Äôs something to do with his bloodline. - His wrestling faction is called ‚ÄúThe Bloodline‚ÄĚ.

 

 The World Wrestling Entertainment, WWE, is now all about Roman Reigns. - The WWE, a billion dollar company is using all its resources, power and assets to build him up as the Ruler of the Universe.

 

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9 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Hell is a place of fire and brimstone, and it's Satan's home according to the mainstream tradition. So I doubt if a lake of fire will be much of a problem for him. Perhaps it'll be like exiling him away from this worldly dimension in the same tradition as the demons in modern literature - eg Sauron, Brona, Voldemort.

 

Mainstream tradition is b.s. Satan and his followers don't want to go to fire and brimstone, so they don't live there. Also, Hell as the church teaches it isn't real either.

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31 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

He was born to be the ‚ÄúChosen One‚ÄĚ. - I don‚Äôt know how his family new it, but ever since he was born his family raised him to be the Supreme Ruler. - It‚Äôs something to do with his bloodline. - His wrestling faction is called ‚ÄúThe Bloodline‚ÄĚ.

 

 The World Wrestling Entertainment, WWE, is now all about Roman Reigns. - The WWE, a billion dollar company is using all its resources, power and assets to build him up as the Ruler of the Universe.

 

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^^^^  ^^^^  ^^^^^
 

Look how far his real-life cousin, The Rock Dwayne Johnson, has gotten. - Give or take, he’s the highest-paid most famous actor on the planet, touted to be a future president of the United States of America. - The plan is mapped out for Roman Reigns to supersede The Rock by X-Orders of Magnitude.

 

This is Not a Joke. - They’re DEADLY SERIOUS about this.

 

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10 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

I don't know ins and outs of the deal he has with Lucifer. Who knows.

If he knows how to do walk-ins, may be he'll never die. Basically, you just keep on body jumping. It's all explained in the movie.

The body hopping sounds like Jason Goes to Hell. Now that you mention it, I think Jason goes to Hell got the body hopping idea from The Hidden. It's ringing a bell with me now.

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1 minute ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

^^^^  ^^^^  ^^^^^
 

Look how far his real-life cousin, The Rock Dwayne Johnson, has gotten. - Give or take, he’s the highest-paid most famous actor on the planet, touted to be a future president of the United States of America. - The plan is mapped out for Roman Reigns to supersede The Rock by X-Orders of Magnitude.

 

This is Not a Joke. - They’re DEADLY SERIOUS about this.

 

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That won't happen. WWE always tries to push someone a their top guy. Roman doesn't have the same presence or charisma as The Rock. Roman might make movies in the future, but he won't be at the level Rock is at.

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9 minutes ago, Jason57 said:

That won't happen. WWE always tries to push someone a their top guy. Roman doesn't have the same presence or charisma as The Rock. Roman might make movies in the future, but he won't be at the level Rock is at.

The Rock has stated that he WON’T be running for president.

 

He’s stepping aside for Roman to take that place.

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The Antichrist ‚Äď an Orthodox Perspective | OrthodoxWord (wordpress.com)

 

The Holy Fathers Iriney (‚ÄúAgainst Heresy‚ÄĚ, Book V, chapter 30), Ippolit (Legends about Christ and the Antichrist), and also Ilariy, Ambrose, Ieronim and Augustus, remark that the Antichrist will be of¬†Jewish ancestry, from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.

 

In the Synaksare, stated in the Week of Lent without meat, we read that, ‚ÄúThe Antichrist will come and be born, as St. Ippolit of¬†Rome¬†declares, from a depraved wife and self-styled virgin, which is from the Jews, from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.‚Ä̬†(Lenten Triod)¬†¬†Such indications in God‚Äôs Word have several foundations:

 

In the prophecies of Patriarch Jacob about each of his sons becoming the progenitors of the¬†tribes¬†of Israel, the fate of¬†Dan‚Äôs ancestors is depicted in such a way that can only be ascribed to the Antichrist.¬†‚ÄúDan¬†shall be a serpent on the way, an adder in the path‚Ķ‚Ä̬†(Genesis 49, 17)¬†In the prophecies of¬†Ierenim:¬†‚ÄúFrom¬†Dan¬†himself‚Ķ(Ierenim¬†VIII,16)

 

In the prophecies of the Apocalypse, enumerating the remainder of all the tribes of Israel, marked by the Angel for salvation, the tribe of Dan is absolutely excluded. (Revelations VII, 4-8).

 

According to the teachings of the Holy Fathers, the devil, exalting the Antichrist, will try to vest his coming with all the signs of the coming of the Son of God to earth.¬†¬†(See St. Cyril of¬†Jerusalem, the 150th catechistic word; St. Ephrem the Syrian, the 39th word, in the Russian translation Blessed Theodore, ‚ÄúA Short Exposition of Divine Dogma‚ÄĚ, Chapter 23, St. Ippolit, ‚ÄúThe Legends of Christ and the Antichrist‚ÄĚ)

 

 

Extract below from PDF: Dispensationalism Before Darby - William C. Watson

 

THE ANTICHRIST: JEWISH (2ND-10THC.), PAPAL (11TH-16TH), MUSLIM (17TH-18TH)

 

‚ÄúAlready in the second and third centuries theologians were foretelling that¬†Antichrist would be a Jew of the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan; this idea became such a common place that in the Middle Ages it was accepted by scholastics such as Thomas¬†Aquinas‚Ķ Antichrist, it was held, would be¬†born at Babylon; he would grow up in¬†Palestine and would love Jews above all peoples; he would rebuild the Temple for¬†them and gather them together from their dispersion‚Ķ The Jews would be most¬†faithful followers of Antichrist, accepting him as the Messiah who was to restart¬†the nation.‚ÄĚ -Norman Cohn, The Pursuit of the Millennium (Oxford, 1957) 74 78,85,215


Second and Third Century Tradition of a Jewish Antichrist

 

Apocalypse of Peter (ca.125) Koine, mentioned in Muratorian fragment “fig tree is the house of Israel
¬†‚Ķwhen the twigs have sprouted‚Ķshall feigned Christs come [Jews follow at first, but] Enoch and Elias shall be sent to teach them that this is the deceiver‚Ķthey that die by his hand be martyrs‚Ķ‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďAkhimic & Ethiopic fragments


Irenaeus¬†(ca.180) Restrainer=Roman Empire when it falls, then 10 kingdoms emerge but are taken over¬†¬†by Antichrist (a Jew from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan), who rules world from Jerusalem as an Messianic Imposter, Jesus‚Äô evil twin, rules 3¬Ĺ years, ‚ÄúThe rebuilt Jerusalem will be in Jerusalem.‚ÄĚ -Against Heresies 5:30


Hippolytus of Rome¬†(ca.200, disciple of Irenaeus)¬†Jew from¬†Dan, rebuilds Jerusalem Temple, desecrates it, Jews follow him, Enoch & Elijah killed, rules 3¬Ĺ years -Comm¬†Daniel¬†ii,39-43; Christ and Antichrist 6,48


Tertullian¬†(ca.220) 2Thess2: ‚Äúfalling away‚ÄĚ = ‚Äúthis present empire‚ÄĚ; ‚Äúman of sin‚ÄĚ = ‚ÄúAntichrist‚ÄĚ ‚Äúhe who now hinders‚ĶWhat obstacle is there but the Roman state, the falling away of which, by being scattered into ten kingdoms, shall introduce Antichrist‚Ķ -On the Resurrection of the Flesh xxxiv (see also chapters xxv, xxvii, xli)


Victorinus of Petrovium¬†(ca.270, martyred by Diocletian) Antichrist‚Äôs reign 3¬Ĺ yrs (1260 days/42 mos.)
¬†‚Äúthe beast belongs to the 7th horn, but is an 8th, Antichrist comes to‚Ķthe Jews‚Ķso that they might receive him as the Christ.‚ÄĚ [666¬†acc.to¬†Greek letters] False prophet places image in temple in Jerusalem. 144,000 are ‚Äúthose among the Jews who will come to believe at the end of time through the preaching of Elijah.‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďCommentRevelation 11,13,20¬†Fourth Century Tradition of a¬†Jewish Antichrist

 

Apocalypse of Elijah¬†(ca.300, Coptic) Antichrist will deceive the Jews who had settled in Jerusalem, then he would ‚Äústand in the holy places‚ÄĚ as ‚Äúan enemy to the saints‚ÄĚ until Elijah & Enoch come down & be killed, then ‚ÄúChrist will come from heaven‚Ķset fire to this earth‚ÄĚ and ‚Äúspend a thousand years on it.‚ÄĚ-Apocalypse of Elijah 25-34,42-43


Lactantius¬†(ca.310) at fall of Rome 10 kings emerge,¬†Antichrist Jew of¬†Dan¬†born Syria; Elijah preaches, is killed & rapt¬†Antichrist=little horn, tries to destroy temple, ‚Äútribulation such as there has never been‚ÄĚ, 666 Mark, rules 42 months, assembles army to destroy righteous, surrounds the city, God sends Christ/angels from heaven to destroy Antichrist, then resurrection & judgement by works, some shall judge & reign with Christ. ‚ÄďThe Divine Institutes VII, xvi-xx


Cyril of Jerusalem¬†(ca.350)¬†Jew¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, rebuilds Jerusalem temple, little horn rules cruelly for 3¬Ĺ yrs, ‚ÄúThe Antichrist‚Ķwill come when the destined period of the Roman Empire has run its course and the subsequent end of the world is drawing near. Ten claimants to the empire will rise simultaneously‚Ķ Antichrist will form an eleventh after them having seized the imperial power by¬†magic arts.‚ÄĚ [Dan7:24] - Nature of Antichrist, 15th Catec Lecture 11-16


Ambrosiaster¬†(ca.375, Rome) ‚ÄúPaul pointed out the time and the signs of Christ‚Äôs return. The Lord would not come back until the Roman Empire fell and the antichrist appeared, who would kill the saints‚Ķ He would even sit in Christ‚Äôs seat in the house of God, as God himself‚Ķthis person whom [Jews] are expecting to come will be either of the¬†circumcision¬†or at least¬†circumcised himself, so that the Jews will have the confidence to believe him.‚ÄĚ- Comm 2 Thess 2:1-4;115


Hillary of Poitiers¬†(ca.380) Jews did not receive Christ, but will receive Antichrist ‚ÄďOn the Trinity ix,22¬†Early Medieval Tradition of a¬†Jewish Antichrist¬†- Stephen Vicchio & AncChrComm, xiii


Jerome¬†(ca.400, translator of the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible)¬†‚ÄúAntichrist at the end of the world‚Ķis from the Jewish people‚Ķpretending to be the prince of the covenant‚Ķhe is¬†to be born of the Jewish people and come from Babylon‚Ķ‚ÄĚ - Commentary on¬†Daniel¬†11:24-26


¬†‚ÄúJews mistakenly imagine that he (i.e. their Messiah) is yet to come, for they are going to receive the Antichrist.‚Ä̬†-Commentary on¬†Daniel¬†11:34-35


Theodoret of Cyrus¬†(ca.450) Rome falls (restrainer), 10 Kings, Antichrist king of North conquers others, Elijah & Enoch go to Jerusalem, call Jews to faith, killed by Antichrist (Malachi 3;Rev 11) ‚Äúnot an isolated reading, but part of a larger widespread Elijah expectation in early Christianity‚ÄĚ -Joel Weaver; Theodoret of Cyprus on Romans 11:26: Recovering¬†Pseudo-Ephraem (6thc. Syria, century after Ephraim the Syrian)¬†tribe¬†Dan, by ‚Äėvile virgin‚Äô, has temple rebuilt¬†Gregory the Great (ca.590)¬†Jew from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, takes power at fall of Rome (restrainer), Jews follow him,¬†their conversion begins his downfall ‚ÄďMoralia in book of Job, cited in Stephen Vicchio, Legend of Antichrist, 102


Oecumenius¬†(ca.600, Syrian Monophysite) Elijah & Enoch¬†prophesy¬†in Jerusalem, killed by antichrist who¬†‚Äúwill rule as king of the Jews, whom he will deceive‚Ķ‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďCommentary Apocalypse 11:1-14


Andrew of Caesarea-Cappadocia¬†(ca.610)¬†It is ‚Äúthe¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, out of which the antichrist is to be born‚Ķ‚ÄĚ
¬†‚ÄúThe Antichrist coming from eastern regions of Persia, where is the Hebrew¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.‚ÄĚ-Commentary Apocalypse 7:4-8;16:12
Eighth Century Examples of a Jewish Antichrist

 

John of Damascus (ca.700, Syrian monk founded monastery near Jerusalem) the Jews would accept him as Messiah in rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, at least until the preaching of Enoch & Elijah, Antichrist rages until Christ returns
http://www.trueorthodoxy.info/pat_stjohndamascus_on_antichrist.shtml


The Venerable Bede¬†(ca.725, eighth century Anglo-Saxon monk & church historian) Wrote commentary¬†on the¬†book of Revelation. He too believed that¬†Antichrist would be a Jew from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, be born in Babylon.¬†Bede seems to have¬†held to a¬†rapture and¬†return¬†to rule on earth. -Bede, Explanation of the Apocalypse 7:5; 17:12¬†‚Äú‚Ķthe Church, which has been redeemed by the blood of Christ and gathered from the nations. And he shows them in¬†heaven by saying ‚Äėand they will reign on earth.‚ÄĚ -Ibid., 5:9-10
 

‚ÄúSome interpret the two prophets to be Enoch and Elijah. They will preach for three and a half years, and strengthen the¬†hearts of the faithful against the perfidy of the antichrist that is soon to come. And when they are killed, his ferocity¬†will rage. When at last the saints, who through the protection of their hiding places, were thought to be dead, resume¬†the¬†struggle‚Ķ For the sake of the fellowship of one body, these prophets are said to rise‚ĶThen in the temple there¬†will be an¬†abomination of desolation‚Ķ‚ÄėAnd the armies that are in heaven followed him on white horses.‚Äô With pure white¬†bodied the church imitates Christ. Because of the struggle of her battle, she has by right received the name of army.‚ÄĚ-Ibid,19:14


After hiding, then being gathered from all nations and taken to heaven, the saints would then follow Christ to ‚Äėthe final¬†battle‚Äô against ‚Äėthe kings of the earth‚Äô, then they would reign with Christ on earth a thousand years. -Ibid.,19:16-19


Ninth and Tenth Century Examples of a¬†Jewish Antichrist¬†Pseudo-Hippolytus (9thcentury, Syriac MSS)¬†Antichrist from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, who gathers & restores Israel, rebuilds¬†the temple in Jerusalem, Enoch & Elijah preach against Antichrist, who kills them then desecrates the temple, demands¬†people get his mark, but Christ returns, resurrects the dead, the earth ‚Äúburnt up.‚ÄĚ -On the End of the World 16-20,23-25, 29¬†Adso of Montier-en-Der (ca.950, Benedictine abbot Burgundy, ‚Äúone of the foremost writers of the 10thc.‚ÄĚ)


 “Antichrist…born among Jewish people, out of the tribe of Dan…born in the city of Babylon…will restore the Temple of
¬†Solomon‚Ķwill go to Jerusalem‚Ķpresent himself as Christ to the Jews.‚Ä̬†-Marina Vukovic, ‚ÄúThe Idea of Antichrist: Tyconius &¬†Adso‚ÄĚ

 

Cited¬†2Thess2:¬†Antichrist cannot take power ‚Äúunless the defection shall have come first‚Ä̬†Christian kingdoms defect,¬†which hadn‚Äôt happened yet, since Franks continued the control of the Roman church, last Christian king will go¬†to Jerusalem, lay down crown, Enoch & Elijah will preach 3¬Ĺ years converting Jews, Golden Age until Antichrist¬†takes Jerusalem, desecrates Temple, kills E&E, begins 3¬Ĺ year tribulation killing all Christians who won‚Äôt apostatize,¬†666, until Christ (or St. Michael) returns to slay antichrist, after an unspecified time of penance comes Judgment Day.‚ÄĚ
 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Context

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

This has been attempted before and will continue with every generation until it leads to the great falling away, which may not happen for quite some time, because there will always be Orthodox Christians around the world praying to The Holy Trinity.  

The author could not find any examples of a Jewish Antichrist between 1000 and 1400

 

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Dispensationalism Before Darby - William C. Watson

 

 

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The Antichrist ‚Äď an Orthodox Perspective | OrthodoxWord (wordpress.com)

 

The Holy Fathers Iriney (‚ÄúAgainst Heresy‚ÄĚ, Book V, chapter 30), Ippolit (Legends about Christ and the Antichrist), and also Ilariy, Ambrose, Ieronim and Augustus, remark that the Antichrist will be of¬†Jewish ancestry, from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.

 

In the Synaksare, stated in the Week of Lent without meat, we read that, ‚ÄúThe Antichrist will come and be born, as St. Ippolit of¬†Rome¬†declares, from a depraved wife and self-styled virgin, which is from the Jews, from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.‚Ä̬†(Lenten Triod)¬†¬†Such indications in God‚Äôs Word have several foundations:

 

In the prophecies of Patriarch Jacob about each of his sons becoming the progenitors of the¬†tribes¬†of Israel, the fate of¬†Dan‚Äôs ancestors is depicted in such a way that can only be ascribed to the Antichrist.¬†‚ÄúDan¬†shall be a serpent on the way, an adder in the path‚Ķ‚Ä̬†(Genesis 49, 17)¬†In the prophecies of¬†Ierenim:¬†‚ÄúFrom¬†Dan¬†himself‚Ķ(Ierenim¬†VIII,16)

 

In the prophecies of the Apocalypse, enumerating the remainder of all the tribes of Israel, marked by the Angel for salvation, the tribe of Dan is absolutely excluded. (Revelations VII, 4-8).

 

According to the teachings of the Holy Fathers, the devil, exalting the Antichrist, will try to vest his coming with all the signs of the coming of the Son of God to earth.¬†¬†(See St. Cyril of¬†Jerusalem, the 150th catechistic word; St. Ephrem the Syrian, the 39th word, in the Russian translation Blessed Theodore, ‚ÄúA Short Exposition of Divine Dogma‚ÄĚ, Chapter 23, St. Ippolit, ‚ÄúThe Legends of Christ and the Antichrist‚ÄĚ)

 

 

Extract below from PDF: Dispensationalism Before Darby - William C. Watson

 

THE ANTICHRIST: JEWISH (2ND-10THC.), PAPAL (11TH-16TH), MUSLIM (17TH-18TH)

 

‚ÄúAlready in the second and third centuries theologians were foretelling that¬†Antichrist would be a Jew of the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan; this idea became such a common place that in the Middle Ages it was accepted by scholastics such as Thomas¬†Aquinas‚Ķ Antichrist, it was held, would be¬†born at Babylon; he would grow up in¬†Palestine and would love Jews above all peoples; he would rebuild the Temple for¬†them and gather them together from their dispersion‚Ķ The Jews would be most¬†faithful followers of Antichrist, accepting him as the Messiah who was to restart¬†the nation.‚ÄĚ -Norman Cohn, The Pursuit of the Millennium (Oxford, 1957) 74 78,85,215


Second and Third Century Tradition of a Jewish Antichrist

 

Apocalypse of Peter (ca.125) Koine, mentioned in Muratorian fragment “fig tree is the house of Israel
¬†‚Ķwhen the twigs have sprouted‚Ķshall feigned Christs come [Jews follow at first, but] Enoch and Elias shall be sent to teach them that this is the deceiver‚Ķthey that die by his hand be martyrs‚Ķ‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďAkhimic & Ethiopic fragments


Irenaeus¬†(ca.180) Restrainer=Roman Empire when it falls, then 10 kingdoms emerge but are taken over¬†¬†by Antichrist (a Jew from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan), who rules world from Jerusalem as an Messianic Imposter, Jesus‚Äô evil twin, rules 3¬Ĺ years, ‚ÄúThe rebuilt Jerusalem will be in Jerusalem.‚ÄĚ -Against Heresies 5:30


Hippolytus of Rome¬†(ca.200, disciple of Irenaeus)¬†Jew from¬†Dan, rebuilds Jerusalem Temple, desecrates it, Jews follow him, Enoch & Elijah killed, rules 3¬Ĺ years -Comm¬†Daniel¬†ii,39-43; Christ and Antichrist 6,48


Tertullian¬†(ca.220) 2Thess2: ‚Äúfalling away‚ÄĚ = ‚Äúthis present empire‚ÄĚ; ‚Äúman of sin‚ÄĚ = ‚ÄúAntichrist‚ÄĚ ‚Äúhe who now hinders‚ĶWhat obstacle is there but the Roman state, the falling away of which, by being scattered into ten kingdoms, shall introduce Antichrist‚Ķ -On the Resurrection of the Flesh xxxiv (see also chapters xxv, xxvii, xli)


Victorinus of Petrovium¬†(ca.270, martyred by Diocletian) Antichrist‚Äôs reign 3¬Ĺ yrs (1260 days/42 mos.)
¬†‚Äúthe beast belongs to the 7th horn, but is an 8th, Antichrist comes to‚Ķthe Jews‚Ķso that they might receive him as the Christ.‚ÄĚ [666¬†acc.to¬†Greek letters] False prophet places image in temple in Jerusalem. 144,000 are ‚Äúthose among the Jews who will come to believe at the end of time through the preaching of Elijah.‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďCommentRevelation 11,13,20¬†Fourth Century Tradition of a¬†Jewish Antichrist

 

Apocalypse of Elijah¬†(ca.300, Coptic) Antichrist will deceive the Jews who had settled in Jerusalem, then he would ‚Äústand in the holy places‚ÄĚ as ‚Äúan enemy to the saints‚ÄĚ until Elijah & Enoch come down & be killed, then ‚ÄúChrist will come from heaven‚Ķset fire to this earth‚ÄĚ and ‚Äúspend a thousand years on it.‚ÄĚ-Apocalypse of Elijah 25-34,42-43


Lactantius¬†(ca.310) at fall of Rome 10 kings emerge,¬†Antichrist Jew of¬†Dan¬†born Syria; Elijah preaches, is killed & rapt¬†Antichrist=little horn, tries to destroy temple, ‚Äútribulation such as there has never been‚ÄĚ, 666 Mark, rules 42 months, assembles army to destroy righteous, surrounds the city, God sends Christ/angels from heaven to destroy Antichrist, then resurrection & judgement by works, some shall judge & reign with Christ. ‚ÄďThe Divine Institutes VII, xvi-xx


Cyril of Jerusalem¬†(ca.350)¬†Jew¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, rebuilds Jerusalem temple, little horn rules cruelly for 3¬Ĺ yrs, ‚ÄúThe Antichrist‚Ķwill come when the destined period of the Roman Empire has run its course and the subsequent end of the world is drawing near. Ten claimants to the empire will rise simultaneously‚Ķ Antichrist will form an eleventh after them having seized the imperial power by¬†magic arts.‚ÄĚ [Dan7:24] - Nature of Antichrist, 15th Catec Lecture 11-16


Ambrosiaster¬†(ca.375, Rome) ‚ÄúPaul pointed out the time and the signs of Christ‚Äôs return. The Lord would not come back until the Roman Empire fell and the antichrist appeared, who would kill the saints‚Ķ He would even sit in Christ‚Äôs seat in the house of God, as God himself‚Ķthis person whom [Jews] are expecting to come will be either of the¬†circumcision¬†or at least¬†circumcised himself, so that the Jews will have the confidence to believe him.‚ÄĚ- Comm 2 Thess 2:1-4;115


Hillary of Poitiers¬†(ca.380) Jews did not receive Christ, but will receive Antichrist ‚ÄďOn the Trinity ix,22¬†Early Medieval Tradition of a¬†Jewish Antichrist¬†- Stephen Vicchio & AncChrComm, xiii


Jerome¬†(ca.400, translator of the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible)¬†‚ÄúAntichrist at the end of the world‚Ķis from the Jewish people‚Ķpretending to be the prince of the covenant‚Ķhe is¬†to be born of the Jewish people and come from Babylon‚Ķ‚ÄĚ - Commentary on¬†Daniel¬†11:24-26


¬†‚ÄúJews mistakenly imagine that he (i.e. their Messiah) is yet to come, for they are going to receive the Antichrist.‚Ä̬†-Commentary on¬†Daniel¬†11:34-35


Theodoret of Cyrus¬†(ca.450) Rome falls (restrainer), 10 Kings, Antichrist king of North conquers others, Elijah & Enoch go to Jerusalem, call Jews to faith, killed by Antichrist (Malachi 3;Rev 11) ‚Äúnot an isolated reading, but part of a larger widespread Elijah expectation in early Christianity‚ÄĚ -Joel Weaver; Theodoret of Cyprus on Romans 11:26: Recovering¬†Pseudo-Ephraem (6thc. Syria, century after Ephraim the Syrian)¬†tribe¬†Dan, by ‚Äėvile virgin‚Äô, has temple rebuilt¬†Gregory the Great (ca.590)¬†Jew from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, takes power at fall of Rome (restrainer), Jews follow him,¬†their conversion begins his downfall ‚ÄďMoralia in book of Job, cited in Stephen Vicchio, Legend of Antichrist, 102


Oecumenius¬†(ca.600, Syrian Monophysite) Elijah & Enoch¬†prophesy¬†in Jerusalem, killed by antichrist who¬†‚Äúwill rule as king of the Jews, whom he will deceive‚Ķ‚ÄĚ ‚ÄďCommentary Apocalypse 11:1-14


Andrew of Caesarea-Cappadocia¬†(ca.610)¬†It is ‚Äúthe¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, out of which the antichrist is to be born‚Ķ‚ÄĚ
¬†‚ÄúThe Antichrist coming from eastern regions of Persia, where is the Hebrew¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan.‚ÄĚ-Commentary Apocalypse 7:4-8;16:12
Eighth Century Examples of a Jewish Antichrist

 

John of Damascus (ca.700, Syrian monk founded monastery near Jerusalem) the Jews would accept him as Messiah in rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, at least until the preaching of Enoch & Elijah, Antichrist rages until Christ returns
http://www.trueorthodoxy.info/pat_stjohndamascus_on_antichrist.shtml


The Venerable Bede¬†(ca.725, eighth century Anglo-Saxon monk & church historian) Wrote commentary¬†on the¬†book of Revelation. He too believed that¬†Antichrist would be a Jew from the¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, be born in Babylon.¬†Bede seems to have¬†held to a¬†rapture and¬†return¬†to rule on earth. -Bede, Explanation of the Apocalypse 7:5; 17:12¬†‚Äú‚Ķthe Church, which has been redeemed by the blood of Christ and gathered from the nations. And he shows them in¬†heaven by saying ‚Äėand they will reign on earth.‚ÄĚ -Ibid., 5:9-10
 

‚ÄúSome interpret the two prophets to be Enoch and Elijah. They will preach for three and a half years, and strengthen the¬†hearts of the faithful against the perfidy of the antichrist that is soon to come. And when they are killed, his ferocity¬†will rage. When at last the saints, who through the protection of their hiding places, were thought to be dead, resume¬†the¬†struggle‚Ķ For the sake of the fellowship of one body, these prophets are said to rise‚ĶThen in the temple there¬†will be an¬†abomination of desolation‚Ķ‚ÄėAnd the armies that are in heaven followed him on white horses.‚Äô With pure white¬†bodied the church imitates Christ. Because of the struggle of her battle, she has by right received the name of army.‚ÄĚ-Ibid,19:14


After hiding, then being gathered from all nations and taken to heaven, the saints would then follow Christ to ‚Äėthe final¬†battle‚Äô against ‚Äėthe kings of the earth‚Äô, then they would reign with Christ on earth a thousand years. -Ibid.,19:16-19


Ninth and Tenth Century Examples of a¬†Jewish Antichrist¬†Pseudo-Hippolytus (9thcentury, Syriac MSS)¬†Antichrist from¬†tribe¬†of¬†Dan, who gathers & restores Israel, rebuilds¬†the temple in Jerusalem, Enoch & Elijah preach against Antichrist, who kills them then desecrates the temple, demands¬†people get his mark, but Christ returns, resurrects the dead, the earth ‚Äúburnt up.‚ÄĚ -On the End of the World 16-20,23-25, 29¬†Adso of Montier-en-Der (ca.950, Benedictine abbot Burgundy, ‚Äúone of the foremost writers of the 10thc.‚ÄĚ)


 “Antichrist…born among Jewish people, out of the tribe of Dan…born in the city of Babylon…will restore the Temple of
¬†Solomon‚Ķwill go to Jerusalem‚Ķpresent himself as Christ to the Jews.‚Ä̬†-Marina Vukovic, ‚ÄúThe Idea of Antichrist: Tyconius &¬†Adso‚ÄĚ

 

Cited¬†2Thess2:¬†Antichrist cannot take power ‚Äúunless the defection shall have come first‚Ä̬†Christian kingdoms defect,¬†which hadn‚Äôt happened yet, since Franks continued the control of the Roman church, last Christian king will go¬†to Jerusalem, lay down crown, Enoch & Elijah will preach 3¬Ĺ years converting Jews, Golden Age until Antichrist¬†takes Jerusalem, desecrates Temple, kills E&E, begins 3¬Ĺ year tribulation killing all Christians who won‚Äôt apostatize,¬†666, until Christ (or St. Michael) returns to slay antichrist, after an unspecified time of penance comes Judgment Day.‚ÄĚ
 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Context

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

This has been attempted before and will continue with every generation until it leads to the great falling away, which may not happen for quite some time, because there will always be Orthodox Christians around the world praying to The Holy Trinity.  

The author could not find any examples of a Jewish Antichrist between 1000 and 1400

 

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Dispensationalism Before Darby - William C. Watson

 

 

 

 

interesting. let me add to this...

 

i wonder, could it be AI / Tech that tries to imitate The True Messiah
 

Dajjal, also known as the ‚Äúfalse messiah‚ÄĚ or ‚Äúthe liar‚ÄĚ. - the Antichrist.¬† Every Muslim in the world believes that he will create a great destruction by his lies and powers!
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is always considered as the most intellectual and the knowledgeable person in the whole world. He talked a lot about this false messiah, which is also known as Dajjal. The westerners know this as ‚ÄúAnti-Christ‚ÄĚ, who will create havoc all around the world with his deception.
 

According to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Dajjal will come out before Judgement day, like in last days of earth. Dajjal’s motive will be to sabotage the people. He will try to make people follow his path which leads to Jahannum (Hell) !
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that he will be blind in one eye. Furthermore stated that it will be like floating (Shaking), but not staying at one place. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that the skin color of Dajjal will be Reddy White (Like English and Irish people).
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and an abnormally wide neck. His height will be shorter! He would have a hunch in his back but still, he would be very powerful. He would be able to walk, but not like a normal person.
 

He will be having curly long hair, and they will look like snakes hanging from his head. Dajjal will never have the ability to make children, he will be sterile. Dajjal, will be a man, not a woman.
 

The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan (Persia / Iran)  wearing Persian shawls.

 

Lastly,¬†Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) stated, that he will have the word ‚ÄúKAAFIR‚ÄĚ between his eyebrows and forehead. The people of Allah, people who are following Islam will be able to see it clearly while others won‚Äôt be able to see it.


and the word "kaafir" when we look at certain military regiments in the world...

 

Israel's Kfr Brigades
 

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Nato's KFOR Battalion

 

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Look up the number 666 in Greek ( the language of the New Testament) in capital letters and place them under each other. The first is an X (Twitter), below is Tesla's changed second letter and below is Neuralink's logo (rotated 180¬į around its horizontal axis and then 45¬į around its vertical axis), without the straight line.

 

Look up the cover of the recent biography by Walter Isaacson. The folded hands form the stem of a chalice while the head forms the cup. This is a reference to the Sigil of Lucifer. The purpose of it is that of an instrument of visual invocation during ritual. By performing the appropriate ritual, the sigil acts as a gateway to invoke and bestow the power and presence of Lucifer. As David Icke said, they love hidden symbolism.

 

Go to https://generatorhell.com/beast-calculator/ and add an a after the e in his name. The eel has arrived in the Sargasso sea next to Florida, the state of his candidate for president, Ron DeSantis

 

Soon he will know everything about you. Where you are (software in your car, Starlink), what your interests and opinions are (X), everything about your past (AI) and soon what you are thinking (Neuralink). He can use this information to distort that information, let a AI reconstruction of your face say compromising things, post it and let his supproters go after you; like some people already have experienced. You will obey him or he will destroy you. Soon to appear X-coin, X-pay, X-verse..

 

He has connections all over the world, he has charisma because of his wealth and fame and he scores well with the younger generations as visionary and 'savior of the human race'. He is the ultimate deceiver.

 

In the biography he admits that he lacks empathy, the hallmark of sociopathy.

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Over the years, most films which depict the Antichrist, do not adhere to the Church Fathers description of his background.

  1. That he will be raised as a Jew from the tribe of Dan.
  2. The world will be told by Israel that he is the moshiach from the tribe of Judah. (Lies)
  3. He will most likely be circumcised.
  4. Because of his birth mother's promiscuity, this man will not know who his father is. 
  5. The geographic region he'll come from will be from historical Mesopotamia, Babylon, possibly a practicing Jew from modern day Iran, Iraq or Syria.
 
 I have yet to find even one movie depicting the Antichrist as a male, raised as a Jew from the tribe of Dan.  
 
This may have been done deliberately to mislead the nations.
 

 

The Demoniacs of Rabbinical Judaism

 
It's no surprise that these false Jews from the synagogue of satan will claim that our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ is the false Messiah
 

By Subdeacon Nektarios, M.A.


“… in the clear writings of Saint John Chrysostom, the Golden-Mouthed Patriarch of Constantinople and the author of our divine liturgy, in his volume entitled Against the Jews writes in his first homily that:


At any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who says so? The Son of God says so. For he said: ‚ÄėIf you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father.‚Äô Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God? If, they, the Jews fail to know the Father, if they crucified the Son, if they thrust off the help of the Spirit, who should not make bold to declare plainly that the synagogue is a dwelling of demons? God is not worshipped there. Heaven forbid! From now on it remains a place of idolatry. But still some people pay it honor as a holy place.‚ÄĚ


Saint John Chrysostom, ‚ÄúHomily I,‚ÄĚ in Adversus Judaeos 386-387 A.D.

 

Sources

  1. Public Statements of Heresy: The OCA's Adoption of the Heretical Branch Theory? (orthodoxtraditionalist.com)
  2. Orthodox Christianity and Zionism are Morally Incompatible - Orthodox Reflections

 

 

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