Who do you think the Anti-Christ is or will be ?

[shabbirss]

23 hours ago, SATYA K said:

I do believe Anti-Christ will initially try to reveal as Christ-like as possible, as lamb-like, humble, to deceive the billions by great lengths of manipulations and mimiciking,, and may unfortunately succeed in capturing some Souls, before the veil is lifted or exposed.

 

Do not allow yourself to be fooled by anyone or thing or group posing as anything similar or like Christ himself or the Anti-Christ. 

 

What do others think of this perspective.

the most evil and manipulative people often show themselves as beacons of light,
hiding their true intentions from the unwary masses. i do believe your perspective is on point 100%

[Gnostic Christian]

On 10/18/2022 at 5:03 PM, SATYA K said:

I do believe Anti-Christ will initially try to reveal as Christ-like as possible, as lamb-like, humble, to deceive the billions by great lengths of manipulations and mimiciking,, and may unfortunately succeed in capturing some Souls, before the veil is lifted or exposed.

 

Do not allow yourself to be fooled by anyone or thing or group posing as anything similar or like Christ himself or the Anti-Christ. 

 

What do others think of this perspective.

Given that the name of Jesus is well respected in most religions, and even some political ideologies (policy wise), I do not like it much.

 

The Gnostic Christian Jesus I know is quite good compared to the Jesus you are seeing.

 

You have rightfully judged the Roman Jesus archetype as the vile demiurge that scribes/mythicists wrote him up to be.

 

Guilty to that one, thanks to his Armageddon.

 

All decent moral people will be anti that Christ.

 

Regards

DL

 

[Gnostic Christian]

On 10/2/2022 at 4:33 PM, Given To Fly said:

Interesting breakdown that this researcher believes that the Roman emperor Nero could be the antichrist (in either spirit or spirit and body)

 

The Portal to Ancient Evil is Opening (Unmasking The Antichrist Movie)

 

One has to swallow too much supernatural mind killing things to take any of the bible literally.

 

Regards

DL

[pi3141]

The Origins and Early Development of the Antichrist Myth
Gregory C. Jenks

 

About This Book
The series Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die neutestamentliche Wissenschaft (BZNW) is one of the oldest and most highly regarded international scholarly book series in the field of New Testament studies. Since 1923 it has been a forum for seminal works focusing on Early Christianity and related fields. The series is grounded in a historical-critical approach and also explores new methodological approaches that advance our understanding of the New Testament and its world.

 

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This thesis represents the result of investigations into the origins and development of the Antichrist myth in early Christianity. Research into this question developed a broad character, requiring attention to a wide range of Jewish and Christian literature from the period ca 200 BCE to 300 CE. Where many doctoral studies involve detailed attention to a relatively small field, this topic has required a different approach. Instead of close attention to a single text or passage, or the views of one particular person, this research has involved the examination of numerous ancient texts from diverse backgrounds and attention to a large body of secondary literature. It is an attempt at a synthesis, and as such it builds on the detailed work of numerous other scholars who have invested their labours in the specific texts and issues. At the same time, this study does offer detailed proposals on specific matters of interpretation and, in particular, takes issue with the majority views on the origins and development of the Antichrist myth. 

 

Excerpt - Conclusion

1*.3 THE SYNTHESIS PROPOSED IN THIS STUDY

The conclusion adopted as a result of the research for this study of the origins and development of the Antichrist myth may be stated as follows. It appears that the most significant aspect of the Antichrist myth, in terms of its development as a distinct mythic tradition, was the idea that there would be an eschatological pretender to the role which Christians ascribed to Jesus. The Antichrist myth was thus one example of a larger category of Jewish and Christian mythic traditions that dealt with evil as opposition to God. However, the distinctive character of the Antichrist myth is missed if it is not clearly identified and analysed on its own terms.
The Christian myth of an Antichrist certainly drew on older traditions such as those adduced by Bousset and others. Specifically, it utilised the four major
strands mentioned above:

 

+ Chaoskampf traditions
··· the Satan myth
··· the False Prophet traditions
+ the Endtyrant traditions.

 

Of these, the False Prophet and the Endtyrant traditions seem to have been the most important. Table T32 seems to support this view, as it indicates a clear weighting towards these elements in the common eschatological tradition of the early church. The Chaoskampf traditions and the Satan traditions were important since they provided a link to a larger mythological worldview, but to include them as examples of Antichrist traditions is to blur their own character, as well as to misunderstand the particular character of the Antichrist myth.

The precise history of the traditions which constituted the Antichrist myth may never be reconstructed, and the particular relationships between specific documents and aspects will remain problematical. Certain major steps in the process can be identified with some degree of confidence. The ultimate background was no doubt provided by the ancient mythic traditions identified by Gunkel and Bousset, but the more immediate material which lay at hand for constructing the Antichrist myth is to be observed in the Jewish apocalyptic traditions. In particular, the Jewish traditions of the False Prophet, the Satan figure and the Endtyrant seem to have been decisive.

The early Christian eschatological tradition, as discussed at various points and summarised in Table T32, was a christocentric adaption and blending of Jewish religious traditions. It also allowed the use and adaption of hellenistic religious traditions, as was seen when the SibOr and Revelation were examined. In their new Christian context, these traditions about an eschatological adversary underwent decisive developments and became traditions about a pretender to the position attributed to Jesus in Christian thought.

2 Thessalonians and Revelation seem to indicate circles where the Endtyrant ideas were at the centre of this process, even though the False Prophet elements were never entirely lost. The Johannine epistles, on the other hand, indicate that the False Prophet idea remained a powerful symbol on its own for some Christians until the end of the first century. In THez, the Nero legend and the Satan/Beliar traditions were blended to form a powerful Endtyrant symbol virtually equivalent to the classic Antichrist figure. The more scanty references in Didache, ApPet, Polycarp and Justin Martyr indicate varying combinations of these traditions as time passes.

 

 

 

ITS A MYTH! 

 

Based on old Babylonian Dragon myths and other Combat legends floating around 1000's of years ago.

 

If you believe in the Antichrist Myth or Satan, you are under 'their' spell. Even if you oppose Satanism, if you believe he exists, Hell exists, they have you. 

 

Its all designed to keep you in a state of fear and confusion which keeps you away from God. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by pi3141

[The OC]

If any of the following is true, remember NOT ALL JEWS subscribe to these beliefs.

 

[Note: Some Zionists have admitted that they worship Lucifer. Michael A. Hoffman presents convincing evidence in his massive tome, Judaism Discovered ("From Its Own Text~ A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit" Pub. 2008, 1103 pages), that Judaism is a self worshipping, racist, supremacist, belief construct.

 

A brash, 29 year old Zionist egotist, Harold W. Rosenthal (right), then administrative assistance to Jewish Senator Jacob Javits of New York, revealed in a remarkably candid 1976 paid interview with Walter White Jr (who was viciously beaten on March 13, 1978 as a consequence of publishing his explosive interview with Rosenthal) affirmed that Judaism is a Luciferian (Satanic) cult:

 

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer -- so I wasn't lying -- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive."

 

According to the Ancient Church Fathers, the Saints, the biblical antichrist is going to be a Jew raised as a Jew from the tribe of Dan. The son of perdition will not be a goyim/gentile, but a Jew.

 

Antichrist will be a mockery and parody of the true Christ

https://orthochristian.com/106805.html

 

quoted verbatun from his interview recording in The Hidden Tyranny.

 

You can also download an Audiobook reading of the entire July 1976 interview with Rosenthal:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/Harold-Wallace-Rosenthal-1976-Interview-audiobook.mp3

 

Rosenthal was murdered within a month of his startling admissions to Walter White Jr. in a (Mossad-staged) hyjacking attempt at the El Al terminal inside the Istanbul, Turkey airport on August 11, 1976]

 

Source

 

https://educate-yourself.org/cn/protocolsofsion-print.shtml

 

Although the Biblical Antichrist will be a Jew, all people can still be in the spirit of Antichrist.

 

Be careful!

Edited January 28 by The OC

[Wren]

What I can tell is that if you believe in Gods judgement then the antichrist will also be the chosen as Anti Chirst just like the Prophets are chosen by God for his people.

[alexa]

22 minutes ago, Wren said:

What I can tell is that if you believe in Gods judgement then the antichrist will also be the chosen as Anti Chirst just like the Prophets are chosen by God for his people.

 

You could be right as God did say,

'Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;  2 Thessalonians 2:3

[novymir]

The "anti-Christ" is the principle of Deceit....the Prince of this world.

 

"Lucifer" is a scapegoat of the (it's)ego. 

 

The ego is a self-deceit.

 

Our consciousness is "Lucifer". Deceived. Splintered/fragmented, the Borg collective, egoMatrix.

 

The ego hates The Real, it cannot exist in Truth. It is simply a fantasy we have identified with and been taken for a ride to hell, by substituting egoic ideas of "truth" and "authority" that are an inversion= contrary to Truth and Reality. Delusional dream.

 

So, the ego hates it's maker and host, because it is of a nature contrary to Truth, and, this must mean that it must expire, must die, will die, because only The Real is Eternal, but we("humans")(often) identify more with the ego than The Real and it uses that(energizing) in an attempt to achieve immortality, similar to cancer cells making up a tumor, it's an inversion, a counterfeit "oneness" that uses and drains our creativity to enslave us. A self-defeating idea. It then is made more powerful than it's host, dominates it. Deceives it.

 

Demonizes and crucifies The Real, virtually, projects(evil=) fear, guilt, shame, arrogance and pride, on it's host and on others caught in the same deceit.

 

Basically, the ego slanders GOD'S Creation( The Son)(we are a part of that-(but-this world and "life" is not that), the ego says this world is "real" and we are egos, and bodies, and "humans", the ego says this is "GOD'S Creation" here, the ego says what GOD Created can be and is "evil", that what GOD Created can "oppose" GOD.  Lies.

The ego says "GOD" is both "good" and "evil". Lies. GOD IS NEITHER, GOD IS WHAT IS TRUE REALITY, beyond words or egoic nonsense.

 

All the ego does is justify and inflate the system of belief that it is. And it's nothing but a fantasy. The "world" isn't "out there", it's in your "head". You're bigger than the world, it is fake, you are The Real, but only if The Truth is the accepted Authority can that be remembered and REALIZED.

 

 

The ego likes to beat up GOD'S Son, and keep him/it immersed within a dream of deceit that it dominates, thereby preserving itself and the separation from INFINITE CREATION.

 

For this world? And then "reincarnate" to do it again? Are you f-cking kidding me?

 

 

 

[novymir]

11 hours ago, novymir said:

The "anti-Christ" is the principle of Deceit....the Prince of this world.

 

"Lucifer" is a scapegoat of the (it's)ego. 

 

The ego is a self-deceit.

 

Our consciousness is "Lucifer". Deceived. Splintered/fragmented, the Borg collective, egoMatrix.

 

The ego hates The Real, it cannot exist in Truth. It is simply a fantasy we have identified with and been taken for a ride to hell, by substituting egoic ideas of "truth" and "authority" that are an inversion= contrary to Truth and Reality. Delusional dream.

 

So, the ego hates it's maker and host, because it is of a nature contrary to Truth, and, this must mean that it must expire, must die, will die, because only The Real is Eternal, but we("humans")(often) identify more with the ego than The Real and it uses that(energizing) in an attempt to achieve immortality, similar to cancer cells making up a tumor, it's an inversion, a counterfeit "oneness" that uses and drains our creativity to enslave us. A self-defeating idea. It then is made more powerful than it's host, dominates it. Deceives it.

 

Demonizes and crucifies The Real, virtually, projects(evil=) fear, guilt, shame, arrogance and pride, on it's host and on others caught in the same deceit.

 

Basically, the ego slanders GOD'S Creation( The Son)(we are a part of that-(but-this world and "life" is not that), the ego says this world is "real" and we are egos, and bodies, and "humans", the ego says this is "GOD'S Creation" here, the ego says what GOD Created can be and is "evil", that what GOD Created can "oppose" GOD.  Lies.

The ego says "GOD" is both "good" and "evil". Lies. GOD IS NEITHER, GOD IS WHAT IS TRUE REALITY, beyond words or egoic nonsense.

 

All the ego does is justify and inflate the system of belief that it is. And it's nothing but a fantasy. The "world" isn't "out there", it's in your "head". You're bigger than the world, it is fake, you are The Real, but only if The Truth is the accepted Authority can that be remembered and REALIZED.

 

 

The ego likes to beat up GOD'S Son, and keep him/it immersed within a dream of deceit that it dominates, thereby preserving itself and the separation from INFINITE CREATION.

 

For this world? And then "reincarnate" to do it again? Are you f-cking kidding me?

 

 

 

 

 

[peter]

On 2/14/2021 at 5:46 AM, Maedros said:

The ways of Lucifer are both way below and way above those of mankind; there is no evil or debauchery that he will not commit and he works with supernatural intelligence, so we cannot understand the darkness of his counsels. As Icke often says, "we are dealing with psychopaths". 

If Jesus is the son of god ,people pay homage to god the father

If AI is actually the so called anti christ,which father will people pay homage to

Just a thought

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[Base12]

I believe that the final Antichrist will be the Image of the Beast. In other words, it will be man-made.

 

It will be the 'deadly wound that is healed'.

 

Another name for this final Antichrist is 'Little Horn'.

[DaleP]

I think I found the anti-christ but he's one of us!?

You have no idea what is going on behind the scene.

well, ok, you do have some idea e.g. sacrifice etc but the scale of it!!

Do we have the chance to leave the Matrix? So many misdirections. For me the rabbit hole got even deeper.

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[Bombadil]

On 5/16/2023 at 4:47 PM, DaleP said:

I think I found the anti-christ but he's one of us!?

You have no idea what is going on behind the scene.

well, ok, you do have some idea e.g. sacrifice etc but the scale of it!!

Do we have the chance to leave the Matrix? So many misdirections. For me the rabbit hole got even deeper.

Elaborate please. Sounds interesting.

[Bombadil]

I think the so called antichrist moniker can be misleading. Taken from a biblical point of view and using Gematria, all results lead towards Rome and particular Roman leaders in that time period. Makes sense when you consider the oppressions of the time.

Using gematria where totals add up to 666 works consistently for this.

A lot of people presume that the bible is talking about future events with the beast etc, but for those a few thousand years ago it would very much have seemed the end of days.

Understanding bible verses to be be prophetic is much like reading Nostradamus. You can make it fit anything that suits your way of thinking.

Whether the state of the world today, from any point of view, is the work of the Devil or not is open to personal belief. Regardless of what is behind the world today, it certainly does consider the interests of the Earth or its inhabitants as important to its goals. In a hellish way, yes. In a nurturing way, no.

 

I have books with reference to the Roman angle. When I have time I will screen shot the pertinent pages, if anyone is interested.

[pi3141]

8 hours ago, Bombadil said:

I think the so called antichrist moniker can be misleading. Taken from a biblical point of view and using Gematria, all results lead towards Rome and particular Roman leaders in that time period. Makes sense when you consider the oppressions of the time.

Using gematria where totals add up to 666 works consistently for this.

A lot of people presume that the bible is talking about future events with the beast etc, but for those a few thousand years ago it would very much have seemed the end of days.

 

Yes this seems to be the scholarly view, these antichrist references are toward Roman rulers of the time and Jesus said it would be that generation that saw the Kingdom of Heaven in their life times.

 

I think that's the trick - the one we call Jesus did establish the kingdom, then the others corrupted it and turned this place back into Hell. (Slowly over the years) by convincing everyone the kingdom will only be established when Jesus returns I e. We can't fix it ourselves, we're to weak and corrupt, instead we have to wait for the saviour to do it when he returns.

 

Meanwhile, we're going to Hell in a handbag.

 

 

[DaleP]

10 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Elaborate please. Sounds interesting.

 

I wouldn't know where to start.

Have you ever watched a movie Fallen? He's like that. He cannot be killed.

Also, what's confusing is that....normally a title like 'antichrist' has a bad reputation but he is here to destroy the elites, cable which would make him our hero because nobody is in a position to be able to do this otherwise we would have done since we are so many. He has openly said in public what he's going to do, what he's done... and you look at Serena Rotschild, Jacob's the OH dead, Benjamin de Rothschild suffered a heart attack and died. He was 57. Kate Rothschild looking very odd, her daughter (15) died in a freak accident.....

 

[Bombadil]

2 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

I wouldn't know where to start.

Have you ever watched a movie Fallen? He's like that. He cannot be killed.

Also, what's confusing is that....normally a title like 'antichrist' has a bad reputation but he is here to destroy the elites, cable which would make him our hero because nobody is in a position to be able to do this otherwise we would have done since we are so many. He has openly said in public what he's going to do, what he's done... and you look at Serena Rotschild, Jacob's the OH dead, Benjamin de Rothschild suffered a heart attack and died. He was 57. Kate Rothschild looking very odd, her daughter (15) died in a freak accident.....

 

So who do you think it is then?

[Jason57]

If the Anti Christ is a person couldn't someone assassinate him/her? The all knowing God wouldn't see that coming. Not that God sees much anyway

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[Bombadil]

31 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

 

What does this have to do with the topic? Maybe I a bit slow

[SuperstarNeilC]

2 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

What does this have to do with the topic? Maybe I a bit slow

What does this have to do with the topic?

 

You ARE a bit slow.

 

HE’S THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST !!!

 

 

[Bombadil]

28 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

What does this have to do with the topic?

 

You ARE a bit slow.

 

HE’S THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST !!!

 

 

What makes him that?