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Surely the notion of an Antichrist presupposes a belief in Christianity ?

 I’m not a Christian, so , don’t really give any credibility to that narrative 

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My definition of an anti Christ is anyone who blocks the free flow of spiritual knowledge for whatever reason.

 

Therefore there are lots of anti Christ's - many are religious and spiritual leaders. 

 

I have encountered a few Gurus who are more conscious than most people & I am sure they have had a few experiences of self realisation like me but they are not actually self realised fully. My analogy is that you may be close to self realisation but not actually there. To get there you need to slip under something rather than raise over it. Most people who are close don't actually want you to get there because of their ego & that's what hold them back. They want to be seen as a select bunch & know something you don't

 

In my view Christs message was that we are all the son / daughter of god (prefer the word divinity or consciousness). Its been twisted by anti christ's over time as that is what they do not want you to realise. 

 

So we are all consciousness & its the same consciousness inside everyone. Anyone who knows this but blocks others from finding it is an anti christ. I have only ever come across one person in this lifetime who is fully self realised & they told me this about anti christs    

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On 7/17/2021 at 11:09 PM, Nigel said:

Surely the notion of an Antichrist presupposes a belief in Christianity ?

 I’m not a Christian, so , don’t really give any credibility to that narrative 

 

9 hours ago, snommis said:

Personally I think the whole thing is rather silly.   

 

Doesn't matter what we believe or whether Abrahamic religion is true, but the work of men matters, and it matters if they're self-fulfilling some script, especially if it means billions will suffer.

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On 7/10/2021 at 1:53 AM, Xelador said:

The anti-christ could come in the form of AI. Merging AI with the human mind and basically replacing it, with the few at the top controlling it all.

*shrugs*

Check this out, apply the Tech-Control to the "One-Eye" Symbolism....
ie: AI, Smart Phones, Cctv, etc = Cameras = "one eye"

 

Dajjal, also known as the “false messiah” or “the liar”. Every Muslim in the world believes that he will create a great destruction by his lies and powers!
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is always considered as the most intellectual and the knowledgeable person in the whole world. He talked a lot about this false messiah, which is also known as Dajjal. The westerners know this as “Anti-Christ”, who will create havoc all around the world with his deception.
 

According to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Dajjal will come out before Judgement day, like in last days of earth. Dajjal’s motive will be to sabotage the people of Allah from the religion Islam. He will try to make these believers follow his path which leads to Jahannum (Hell) !
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that he will be blind in one eye. Furthermore stated that it will be like floating (Shaking), but not staying at one place. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that the skin color of Dajjal will be Reddy White (Like English and Irish people).
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and an abnormally wide neck. His height will be shorter! He would have a hunch in his back but still, he would be very powerful. He would be able to walk, but not like a normal person.
 

He will be having curly long hair, and they will look like snakes handing from his head. Dajjal will never have the ability to make children, he will be sterile. Dajjal, will be a man, not a woman.
 

Lastly, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) stated, that he will have the word “KAAFIR” between his eyebrows and forehead. The people of Allah, people who are following Islam will be able to see it clearly while others won’t be able to see it.


and the word "kaafir" when we look at certain military regiments in the world...

 

Israel's Kfr Brigades
 

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Nato's KFOR Battalion

 

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Dajjal-kifr-mask-akmal-jpeg.image_.jpg

 

Dajjal-Topi-Kupluk-Brigade-KFR-di-Jidat-akmal-jpeg.image_.jpg

 

 

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4 minutes ago, shabbirss said:

Check this out, apply the Tech-Control to the "One-Eye" Symbolism....
ie: AI, Smart Phones, Cctv, etc = Cameras = "one eye"

 

Dajjal, also known as the “false messiah” or “the liar”. Every Muslim in the world believes that he will create a great destruction by his lies and powers!
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is always considered as the most intellectual and the knowledgeable person in the whole world. He talked a lot about this false messiah, which is also known as Dajjal. The westerners know this as “Anti-Christ”, who will create havoc all around the world with his deception.
 

According to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Dajjal will come out before Judgement day, like in last days of earth. Dajjal’s motive will be to sabotage the people of Allah from the religion Islam. He will try to make these believers follow his path which leads to Jahannum (Hell) !
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that he will be blind in one eye. Furthermore stated that it will be like floating (Shaking), but not staying at one place. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that the skin color of Dajjal will be Reddy White (Like English and Irish people).
 

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and an abnormally wide neck. His height will be shorter! He would have a hunch in his back but still, he would be very powerful. He would be able to walk, but not like a normal person.
 

He will be having curly long hair, and they will look like snakes handing from his head. Dajjal will never have the ability to make children, he will be sterile. Dajjal, will be a man, not a woman.
 

Lastly, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) stated, that he will have the word “KAAFIR” between his eyebrows and forehead. The people of Allah, people who are following Islam will be able to see it clearly while others won’t be able to see it.


and the word "kaafir" when we look at certain military regiments in the world...

 

Israel's Kfr Brigades
 

2i11u35.jpg

Nato's KFOR Battalion

 

10emvbp.jpg

 

Dajjal-kifr-mask-akmal-jpeg.image_.jpg

 

Dajjal-Topi-Kupluk-Brigade-KFR-di-Jidat-akmal-jpeg.image_.jpg

 

 

 

We need to keep an eye on the global tech hub nation, I know that.

 

"Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened."

 

Zechariah 11:17

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The Anti Christ aka Dajjal seems more symbolic to me than an actual person who will come during the end of time. I've heard different stories of this anti-christ and some of them look absurd. There are also different depictation of this antichrist/dajjal which seems to indicate that it's not one person, but the state of mind of an individual or a group of people who will come at different period of time. How can a person who's blind from 1 eye, have deformed legs and a mark on his forehead claim to be the Messiah or God on earth and people just blindly follow him? People must be really naive. The Anti-Christ for the Christians is the one who oppose to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Similarly, this Dajjal for Muslims must be the one opposing to God and Muhammad. I did some research on the works of Emannuel Swedenborg who was a scientist and theologian from the 18th century. And based on what he witnessed during his dreams and visions, similar to those nd experience that some people have of the afterlife, he said that the end of times prediction are symbolic. The Bible itself is a book of parables and allegory so we shoudn't assume that all those things written in the book is refering to real future events. 

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5 hours ago, m8trix said:

 he said that the end of times prediction are symbolic. The Bible itself is a book of parables and allegory so we shoudn't assume that all those things written in the book is refering to real future events. 

 

Totally agree with this, The Roman Church has taken their allegories as literal.

 

Revelations is a visionary interpretation of a spiritual experience of which we can know little of its purpose. It is apparently based on earlier writings from Pagan sources and should be interpreted astrogically.

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On 7/30/2020 at 10:21 AM, Bombadil said:

Two points for me hold a need for significant consideration. I won’t lie, I’m not religious but like to consider myself open minded. Quite happy to be proven wrong when I am.( don’t tell my wife!)

 

1. I think the problem with the bible is that it has been edited and manipulated over the years by religious scholars and others to further their agendas. Hence different versions. Also the Vatican have admitted making changes in the past. The way things are interpreted by different people can cause confusion as well. I’m not aiming that comment at you Alexa. Can clearly see you are an intelligent person capable of independent thought.

 

2.  In the polarised world with live in today, I think most candidates would not be able to bring on board enough consensus. Though if the plan is to sow discord there are hordes of candidates. For me being able to influence enough people on both sides and to create maximum division would point towards someone involved heavily with the internet or social media. Only have to look at yesterday when Facebook said they remove about ninety percent of “offensive material” before it’s even read. This clearly screams out on so many levels towards an agenda that could fit.
 

Is it not possible the bible was created unbeknownst by humans to spread a false message and is really the work of the antichrist.

 

Just speaking from experience. I have had several experiences with Jesus myself. Now you don't know me, so it's easy to dismiss this as some random on the internet who might be a bit crazy. I thought the same when people used to speak to me about their relationship with Jesus. So for me, experientially, the whole thing is not made up. There is truth in it, and if you read the bible you can sense and also experience the truths by applying the teaching(s) to your own life in a positive way.

 

However, imo, there is known manipulation of the bible - how they chose and omitted the canons and most likely many other manipulations that have gone on when the whole thing was turned into organised religion. 

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In terms of who is the anti christ if he is here, then I would say it would probably be someone you least expect, like Ali from the kebab shop or something like that. Bit like Gus Fring style!

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

 

Just speaking from experience. I have had several experiences with Jesus myself. Now you don't know me, so it's easy to dismiss this as some random on the internet who might be a bit crazy. I thought the same when people used to speak to me about their relationship with Jesus. So for me, experientially, the whole thing is not made up. There is truth in it, and if you read the bible you can sense and also experience the truths by applying the teaching(s) to your own life in a positive way.

 

However, imo, there is known manipulation of the bible - how they chose and omitted the canons and most likely many other manipulations that have gone on when the whole thing was turned into organised religion. 

 I read A lot of ancient history and so very often that involves biblical teachings.

Even though I don’t consider myself religious I’m still drawn to certain passages and verses.

in fact I’ve just finished reading the sign and seal by Graham Hancock. Read for second time.

 

For me it’s not so much whether it’s made up or not. I think there is a lot of provable history written within the Bible. And certainly I agree with some of the things written in respect to values etc. The problem is how individuals historically and in the present day manipulate the words within this book to suit their own agenda. Not in anyway implying yourself Mr H. I’ve Probably been exposed to the snake oil salesman type more often which has altered my view. 
i Lean more towards spirituality myself. Though I try to take on board things that I have learnt from other books, people or experiences as well.

Maybe it’s God talking to me, trying to guide me, and I’m just not realising that or opening up enough. Each day I try to learn  more about the world around me and expose myself to new ideas.

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1 hour ago, Given To Fly said:

i recently purchased a book by the Christian author dave hunt called 'Global Peace and the rise of the antichrist' (1990)

 

in the first chapter called 'the counterfeit Christ' dave hunt, to me defines Bill Gates.

 

page 5:

 

https://archive.org/details/globalpeaceriseo00hunt/page/n5/mode/2up

Just read the first few pages available without an account. I think you’re correct. Even if you hadn’t mentioned Gates, he’s still the first who comes straight to mind.

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The term antichrist means against Christ. There are many people who would fit that description. Over the years, specific individuals have been thought to embody the one and only. Aleister Crowley was nicknamed 'the Beast', and others have pointed to Hitler as having been the Antichrist. And on it has gone, akin to randomly drawing names out of a hat.

 

The Bible speaks in general terms of the existence of an antichrist spirit, but it also is very clear that there will come a being who will one day perfectly personify this spirit and who will have to fulfill some basic biblical criteria/prophecies in order for this being to accurately be identified as the Antichrist.

 

Within traditional Christian eschatology, the common belief is held by many that this abominable one will emerge from out of the Roman Catholic Church, or the EU, or the U.N.

 

According to Bible prophecy, the Antichrist will be a great and influential leader, both militarily and politically, who will establish a New World Order and who will set up a one-world religion. That rules out quite a number of candidates for the role.

 

Scripture gets even more specific as to what this Antichrist will do. In the end, he/it will lead many people astray and will desecrate a holy place set aside for worship of the one true God (as foretold in Matthew 24:16-22). He/it will be against God's bride, the 'Woman' spoken of in Revelation 12:1, a figure that represents the nation of Israel. The Antichrist will set up a throne in a sacred temple (2 Thessalonians 2:4; 9-12).

 

With this one can see that the Third Temple will need to be rebuilt or otherwise somehow exist in order for the Antichrist to appear.

 

Prior to my discovering Joel Richardson's body of work, I had thought that this one-world religion prophesied about in Scripture was in all likelihood in reference to the New Age Movement/Freemasonry, with the false messiah who is said to one day appear on the scene as possibly referring to Lord Maitreya (a.k.a. the Master Jesus). Yet this theory doesn't match with the prophecies as recorded in the Bible.

 

What Richardson teaches makes much more sense. He makes a strong case for Islam as generally possessing the antichrist spirit more than any other group, and points to the embodied Antichrist as coming from within Islam, yet nevertheless perceived by the majority of Muslims as being their final caliph.

 

Islam is, after all, the world's fastest-growing movement. Islamists (not speaking of ordinary Muslims here) often tend to be Christophobic/Judeophobic. The Antichrist is said will oversee a global empire and invade (even if by stealth) Jerusalem. At first he/it will make a peace treaty with Israel, which he/it will break midway through, after which the Antichrist will turn on 'the Woman.' Muslims here try and confuse the issue by pointing to the Dajjal as being the Antichrist, when in fact it is Islam that views Christ as being just another prophet, and as such rejects Christ, denies His sonship, divinity, as well as the Crucifixion.

 

Indeed, it could be said that 'the spirit of the age' is anti-Zionist (i.e. anti-Christ). Israel-bashing as it is today is beyond mainstream, more than fashionable with most people, and utterly ubiquitous in today's society. One may think himself an outspoken nonconformist or brave maverick for speaking out against Zionism and its perceived extremes, when such rhetoric is all too common the world over. The radical left, especially, is most condemnatory of Israel, as is much of social media, the MSM, Big Tech, and of course many Islamists throughout the earth. One cannot help but feel that this is the enmity spoken of in Genesis 3:16.

 

This isn't to say that what is happening in and involving Israel is all godly and of divine doing. The Bible speaks of the whole world being under the influence of the Devil, and this would include the so-called center of it. Yet, it appears that somehow Jerusalem will play a significant role in helping to bring about the Second Coming of Christ.

 

It's of interest that in recent years there has been a movement in Israel based on an ecumenical vision or interfaith alliance between certain rabbis and Muslim intellectuals. One wonders, however, if this would be the equivalent of signing a peace treaty of sorts, this coming together and worshipping the same God, what with each side being Abrahamic in origin and monotheists. As noble as this sounds, this could very well be a sly ploy in an attempt to conquer Israel, via stealth.

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Something about Christ and the AntiChrist.The good news ,as a lot of you know is that Christ is an allegorical figure that represents the Heart Energy fueled by Love,Kindness or Care that we use to affect the World.The really BAD news is that the Antichrist is NOT a REAL person either. It is an allegorical figure too.It represents the Brain ,the rational part of the Brain that we use to control others and ourseleves.If we do not change ourselves and come at least partially from a Heart perspective we lose Energy .Loosing Energy while using only our Brain and not our Heart can kill us,make us sick or even take us into an Insane Assylum.Bill Gates or other globalist will not make you take the CHIP.YOU will demand it.Your Brain(the Rationall part of it) will want it to stop feeling the effects of loosing its Energy.Puting the Chip will stop the visible effects of loosing Energy but,in the End,even the Chip will not stop the Truth Vibrations to make their effect on your Body and Soul.If you take the Chip you will loose such an ammount of Energy that when the Chip will become useless this huge ammount of Energy that is lost will kill you,make you mad or get you sick so Bad that you will want to die.The Whore of Babilon that marries the Antichrist(The Beast) is the implantable technology that Elon Musk wants to put in our brains.The Antichrist(the Rational part of our Brain) and the Babilon Whore will marry ( the Intuitive part and the Rational part of our Brain have a marriage too called the Chemical Wedding))and they will make great deeds as the Bible says.And indeed ,our Brain connected to Musk's tech will allow us to use telepathy,control our SMART tech that we have in or house and other things like that.There is no escape from the Chip if you continue to use only your Brain and not allow your Heart ,at lest partially ,take control.Yes ,the Draco-Reptilians,are obsessed with hierarchy and will put a World Leader that will rule the World Givernment but this is not the true AntiChrist.The True AntiChrist is something within ourselves ,like Christ is too.

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