The Lizard People.

[Given To Fly]

shapeshifters.

[THESTRONG-THEVALIANT]

This is a very good thread! Thanks for the posts!

[Beaujangles]

On 8/8/2020 at 8:42 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

A lot of the time whenever I've recommended to others that they check out David Icke's material, one of the common reactions I get is: That bloke's a nutter! He believes [so-and-so] is a shape-shifting Lizard!

 

Q: How to respond to this admittedly sensationalistic aspect?

 

It's somewhat the equivalent of, say, a Christian evangelizer who when recommending someone read the Bible is told that the book is nonsense, to be dismissed outright and entirely, on the basis it contains the story of a man being swallowed by a whale.

 

Q: Has anyone else encountered this intended conversation-stopper and how do you respond to it?

 

It's not that I disbelieve in the existence of shape-shifting Reptilians, but that when speaking with people outside of these forums I feel it only detracts from Mr. Icke's more important and primary message, that being our illusory reality, America's occult history, and the corruption of the powers-that-be.

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It makes me think whether the critic who immediately brings up the Reptilians is not so much ignorant of Mr. Icke's fundamental themes, as likely in the know and attempting to write off Mr. Icke's entire body of knowledge based on one of the more far-out pieces of the puzzle.

 

At the beginning of The Biggest Secret, David Icke comments how it was suggested to him that he don't bring up talk of Reptilians. I sometimes wonder (outside of these forums) whether this was not sound advice. Mr. Icke has kind of stopped talking about Lizard People since then, hasn't he?

 

When I get that resounding conversation -stopper - I usually go into a few of my own odd experiences and say....that until all strange encounters and experiences have been explained we shouldnt brush off things that we dont understand or that we have not personally experienced..... and a closed mind is an unhealthy mind.

 

Presumably that may do the trick and they start questioning their own closed and unhealthy mind !!!

[Hegel Schmegel]

My first introduction to Lizardmen was prior to my discovering Mr. Icke's material. It was in Loren Coleman's book, Mothman and Other Curious Encounters, published in 2002. (Any correlation?)

 

Q: What of Lizard People in fictional narratives? Do you think the storytellers are onto this reality, and via their including of these creatures in their stories have tried to acclimate audiences to the idea of Reptilians being covertly in our midst? Do you think these writers know something most of the population are completely unaware of?

 

As a huge Outer Limits fan, I cannot help but notice how many episodes within the 7-season anthology series had contained alien creatures of this kind, that could shape-shift and who controlled humanity.

 

[Beaujangles]

4 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

My first introduction to Lizardmen was prior to my discovering Mr. Icke's material. It was in Loren Coleman's book, Mothman and Other Curious Encounters, published in 2002. (Any correlation?)

 

Q: What of Lizard People in fictional narratives? Do you think the storytellers are onto this reality, and via their including of these creatures in their stories have tried to acclimate audiences to the idea of Reptilians being covertly in our midst? Do you think these writers know something most of the population are completely unaware of?

 

As a huge Outer Limits fan, I cannot help but notice how many episodes within the 7-season anthology series had contained alien creatures of this kind, that could shape-shift and who controlled humanity.

 

 

 

There are a few fictional books that have caused me to wonder what the writer actually knows.  Written in 1981, it was a book that I just grabbed to read in 2005...going on 25 years later.  The book was about known people who were reflected in the news via hologram. Holograms were  not exactly as they are now, in 1981.  The embossed hologram was the usual throughout the 70s.   There was no obvious ability to recreate a human being to look real with a hologram....as with the show of Michael Jackson after his death a few years ago.

 

So this book albeit seemingly innocuous, interested me.  The fact that the hologram was of a fictitious president of the USA was even more interesting and thought provoking.

 

There is another book of the same title now, but the story is different. 

 

Another fictional book that had futuristic qualities that interested me, was Killing Time by Caleb Carr.  Reading about stealth hovercraft and  News that was manipulated, was quite an eye opener when I read the book just prior to the World Trade Centre alleged attack... Based in 2023 following a plague seems eerily relevant right now.

[AXPCalledJeff]

I read three books of David Icke and I've seen a lot of interviews with him and I never once recalled him talking about "lizard people". He does talk about shape-shifting entities who happens to look, on basis of witnesses and ancient writings, repitillian in nature. That the "elite" are just vessels for their puppet master(s). But this is just additional information to highlight his main argument that the psychopaths running the show are completely depraved and incapable of showing empathy, in other words they don't act, feel and think like human beings. 

 

The serious lack of empathy and their hateful and arrogant attitude towards life itself should start people wondering about the fabric of what they perceive as reality and our place within it. 

Why would humanity destroy their own planet, destroying natural recources and creating societies and governments that suck the life out of it's citizens and replacing it with fear and dogma? Humanity wouldn't. But humanity is, if nothing else a universal species, very easy to manupilate and easy to judge. It is like that because we have bin blinded from real knowledge for so many generations that ignorance of even our own suffering as a whole has become something we are used to and blatantly ignore. 

 

But it doesn't have to be. Look at the world and ask yourself; do I agree with this? Is this the best we can do? 

No it isn't, we can do better. No one needs to suffer or be left out of the equation. We don't create these prisons for ourselves, but we do maintain them. 

[BridgeBuilder]

Reading between the lines from so called Secret Covenant of the Archons...

 

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"They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen.
Our action will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter."

Yeah you bet. Ye cannot hide, some has ALL SEEING EYE. It's silly to expose one's weakness like this anyway.

 

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"...it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us"

This sentence makes me think that this Covenant is probably written by a man...not from them.

The prime creator is all love. Fury is human emotion. The Creator is understanding even to those who tried to take over it.

 

[Macnamara]

David posted this on his headlines section of his website:

Rabbi Alon Anava on the Zohar: ‘Cain and Abel were human-reptilian hybrids.’ He is saying in his own way precisely what has been in my books since the 1990s

 

The Zohar is the holy book followed by the global Cult – see The Trigger

 

 

 

[magu]

I've never been able to get my head round shape shifters /reptiles etc however i have a different view regarding reptiles/reptilian ....Im an addict ...however i dont use and haven't for 16 years (what is immaterial) when i came out of rehab i read a book called rational recovery ( i was desperate for anything after being forced to endure the cult of 12 steppery) which explains about base brain thinking and the reptilian nature of it ...it really struck home cos once you've awakened that addict and the reptilian brain takes over ..you have no choice but to use...and when i say no choice its like trying to stop breathing...its automatically controlled ....the amygdyla is responsible for breathing etc ...bodily functions and actions over which you have no control....i have always equated the likes of anal schwab his bitch jeremy and the other usual subjects as being controlled more by base brain than by the other bits....and its a cold place when thats switched on...empathy goes out of the window and you have a one track mind like youve never known before...mi tuppencewoth

[Diesel]

I hear Oz often talk of the healing benefit of prayer. I was wondering if this is why the Churches and Mosques have been shut down. To prevent divine intervention. I am damn sure Satanists have not stopped gathering

[DougASmall]

On 11/24/2020 at 4:18 PM, Macnamara said:

David posted this on his headlines section of his website:

Rabbi Alon Anava on the Zohar: ‘Cain and Abel were human-reptilian hybrids.’ He is saying in his own way precisely what has been in my books since the 1990s

 

The Zohar is the holy book followed by the global Cult – see The Trigger

 

 

 

The human race is a hybridization of two opposed races. The blue race and the red race. 

The blue reptilian race is dead. 

The red race are actually light beings. That is where the energy and consciousness comes from for this system. 

The human body is a transmutation device. Turning your energy into food for another race of beings. 

Homosapien human being. Sapien means to be wise and with poisonous juices. Etymology of Sapien back to sanskrit (saep) means snake. 

And the Lord God made to Adam and to his wife vestures of honour from the skin of the serpent, which he had cast from him, upon the skin of their flesh, instead of that adornment which had been cast away; and He clothed them.

The human race was created by the reptilian race through parthenogenesis its a double X (female) system. It looks like original man was hermaphrodite. 

The earth is a secondary place. Your secondary existence. 

[Rolandson]

Those reptuids get energy from our fear. Why do they want to kill everyone besides 500 million. That doesn't make sense.

[oz93666]

41 minutes ago, Rolandson said:

Those reptuids get energy from our fear. Why do they want to kill everyone besides 500 million. That doesn't make sense.

 

This is a common misunderstanding .... Reptilians are physical , like us and get energy from FOOD ! 

 

Non physical demonic spirits (archons)  feed on  psychic energy which is ramped up in fear states  ... These evil spirits infest (possess) reptilians and influence their behavior to torture and kill ....In rare cases these spirits can possess humans and get them to torture and kill children for an energy feast .... but the humans doing this do not feed on the energy ! the spirits possessing them do . 

 

On 11/24/2020 at 10:18 AM, Macnamara said:

David posted this on his headlines section of his website:

Rabbi Alon Anava on the Zohar: ‘Cain and Abel were human-reptilian hybrids.’ He is saying in his own way precisely what has been in my books since the 1990s

 

This is another error !! Reptilians cannot breed with humans !! It was the Annunaki who tampered with our DNA , directly bred with humans and left their elite bloodline to rule here ...

 

Three separate ET races are working together to control humanity the Annunaki , Arcturians and Reps ....

David and this Rabbi are groping around reading books trying to understand this , it is not their specialty ..

David is in a terrible muddle over this and picks and chooses ...Sometimes saying reps are physical and can breed with us (as in this article) .. But usually he describes the reps as archons ... spirits who infest the royals and others . You can't have it both ways ...

 

Karl Mollison is the expert on this subject only he offers an all embracing theory 

 

Edited December 17, 2020 by oz93666

[rooey]

37 minutes ago, Rolandson said:

Those reptuids get energy from our fear. Why do they want to kill everyone besides 500 million. That doesn't make sense.

Why do they say they want to kill everyone besides 500 million? These reptuids get energy from our fear and other emotions. Dunno if it's a case of having to feed the ones you want because you still have to deal with the other dark forces and things become very bi polar. Meanwhile in scenes which espouse that sort of light wolf / dark wolf mantra, there are certainly some predators waiting in the wings. 

A centering energy coupled with a projection of the highest truth makes things clearer, however then the mind can get into some places that some beings trying to affect this planet do not like. Especially have found so when contemplating phone towers, buildings, energy flow and ley lines 

Edited December 17, 2020 by rooey

[Rolandson]

but still somebody wants us dead?

it is writen on the georgia guidestones

[Macnamara]

16 minutes ago, Rolandson said:

but still somebody wants us dead?

it is writen on the georgia guidestones

 

4th pillar of satanism is EUGENICS

[Rolandson]

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

4th pillar of satanism is EUGENICS

They are definitely not the fittest but those we see are not the rulers. Bill gates a ruler. He is a clown, joke and nothing else 

[Macnamara]

Just now, Rolandson said:

They are definitely not the fittest but those we see are not the rulers. Bill gates a ruler. He is a clown, joke and nothing else 

 

Bill Gates is a psychopath PERIOD. His father was the head of PLANNED PARENTHOOD which has its roots in EUGENICS. It was set up to abort babies and has been embroiled in recent years in scandals where it has been selling parts of babies to any buyers willing to pay

 

The gates family have close ties to the rockefellers going back generations and the rockefellers set up the club of rome which held its first meeting in the villa of the rockefellers in italy. The club of rome wrote its famous paper ''the limits to growth'' calling for depopulation

 

The rockefellers are descended from a guy who was literally a snake oil salesman. They then changed the course of modern medicine away from holistic medicine and towards allopathic medicine and the reliance on synthetic drugs and vaccines that we see causing all of the problems today including bill gates global 'decade of vaccines' culminating in this global roll out of an experimental mRNA vaccine using a technique that was discontinued in the past for killing its test subjects:

 

Dr. Peter Hotez Addressing House Science, Space, and Technology Committee Hearing on Coronavirus

March 5, 2020

Excerpt:

"When I say scientific challenge, one of the things we are not hearing a lot about is potential safety problems of coronavirus vaccines. This was first found in the 1960s with respiratory interstitial virus vaccines done in Washington with the NIH and Children's National Medical Center. Some of those kids who got the vaccine did worse and I believe there were two deaths. What happens with certain types of respiratory virus vaccine, to get immunized and when you are exposed to the virus you get this paradoxical enhancement phenomenon. We don't entirely understand the basis of it, that we recognize there's a real problem with certain respiratory virus vaccines. That killed the program for decades and now the Gates foundation is taking it up again, but then we start developing coronavirus vaccines. We noticed laboratory animals that they started to show some of the same pathology that resembled what it happened years earlier. This is going to be problematic..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rolandson]

I will not get the vaccine anyway. I am not allowed too. My immune system is weak. I never wore a mask. Nobody is saying anything at all. i have a note from the doctor that I can't wear one

[CharlieBoy78]

On the subject of these manipulations of Human Beings, is there any evidence pointing towards Cannabis use as a dampening/blocking effect?

 

Just curious about altered states of the mind interfering with the influence of this evil and if anyone has any evidence of this or other substance being effective at blocking or on the opposite end of the scale, being heightening

[Mr H]

3 hours ago, CharlieBoy78 said:

On the subject of these manipulations of Human Beings, is there any evidence pointing towards Cannabis use as a dampening/blocking effect?

 

Just curious about altered states of the mind interfering with the influence of this evil and if anyone has any evidence of this or other substance being effective at blocking or on the opposite end of the scale, being heightening

I don't think you can find evidence because you would first have to have evidence for the evil that you mentioned.

 

From a theoretical point of view. IF we make assumption that the evil is true. Then if we look at what effects drugs have.

 

Waking state mind is operating in D Icke speak - at the lowest band of frequency. I will call this narrow band of consciousness. When you take drugs or have a dream at night, you operate at a different level of consciousness. We can check out and experiment this for ourself. More things are possible in these states you will observe, laws of physics tends to not apply etc etc.

 

So going on theory, we could say, that if the first assumption is true and this evil is operating at the waking state level - but you are experiencing a different level of consciousness then one could apply a guess and say that you may not be effected by this.

 

Personally I would not recommend living a life based on assumptions and beliefs, enough to deal with as is......

Edited December 28, 2020 by Mr H

[kninjahman]

This is the one thing that gets me - or rather than I do not get or understand - and that is because I have never seen it with my own eyes or witnessed it for myself (or even on video or anything of the likes for that fact)

 

I am not denying that reptillians exist - maybe they do, maybe they don't - although what I do have to say on the matter: 

 

Those who claim reptilian shape shift beings are real: please produce your proof for your claims.

 

Where's the evidence?

 

I get there are ancient drawings - but they could just as well be symbolic rather than literal - I get the references to serpents but again these can be symbolic rather than literal. 

 

I have myself witnessed a Djinn - and what I saw wasn't a reptilian shape shifter - It was a fire-like light that was slivering along the floor and made the shape of the baphoment pentagram. I saw it on the floor to my right while praying - and nobody else noticed it at all it was only me who could see it - at the time I thought it to be the devil himself, then afterwards my gut told me it was a sign, it was telling me something: namely that the "baphoment" itself is simply a depiction of the corruption of Muhammad. 

 

How did I arrive at this conclusion? Because of the Quran and what it teaches compared to what muslims in the world believe and practice. 

 

The baphomet has a 5 pointed star on its forehead - I believe this to be reference to the 5 daily prayers that muslims pray - in emulation of a corrupted version of Muhammad that they get from hadtih (a collection of hear-says).

 

The baphomet has a long untidy beard - again "muslims" grow their beards like this in emulation of a corrupted version of Muhammad that they get from hadiths.

 

The baphomet has goat legs - this I believe is a reference to the "goat" which apparently ate certain verses of the Quran and is part of the excuse that "muslims" use in order to justify abandoning the Quran to follow books of hear-say called hadith.

 

The baphomet sites upon a globe - again these things are taught in the books of hadith whereas the Quran seems to indicate a flat earth enclosed system the same as the old testament of the bible.

 

The baphomet has children around his pole - I believe this to be a reference again to the hadith, for in the Quran it teaches clearly that righteous men are to marry WOMEN of their choosing. Not children. However because of belief in "hadith" (again which is a collection of hear-say) "muslims" think that Prophet Muhammad married a 9 year old girl. Some traditions say she was 6 years old. 

 

Just to be clear: Muhammad was not a war mongering backward paedophile like muslims portray him to be. The Quran says he was of excellent character and an example to man kind - he followed only what was revealed to him in the Quran and nothing else - it even says in the Quran that had he followed anything else God would have seized him Himself. 

 

However the image you get of Muhammad after reading the hadith looks suspiciously like the Baphomet.

 

Thus I conclude that the Baphomet is nothing more than a corrupted image of Muhammad which is made into a god or idol. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 

But again this brings me back to my first question about the reptilians - SOME of my research does in fact point to their existence and thus I am eager to discover more - but from my own experience all I have ever seen with my own eyes is a fire-looking-light shining on the floor. 

 

Who knows though - what I saw might not have been a Djinn at all - the Djinns might be the reptilians - maybe what I saw was simply a sign. 

 

Anyone with more information and evidence for me please put it forward either here or in a new thread or PM me.

 

And before anyone says "search the forum" - I've done that and most of the videos that sound interesting have been removed. 

 

Peace be upon you.  

 

 

EDIT - Thank you to the poster of the Rabbi video - I'm now watching it, sounds like there is some valuable information in that video. Thanks.

Edited December 28, 2020 by kninjahman

[shabbirss]

@kninjahman i have also seen a jinn/shaythan - a smokeless flame hovering mid air.
i was filled with hate for some reason when looking at it
o.O

Edited December 30, 2020 by shabbirss

[kninjahman]

1 hour ago, shabbirss said:

@kninjahman i have also seen a jinn/shaythan - a smokeless flame hovering mid air.
i was filled with hate for some reason when looking at it
o.O

 

Please tell me more - the thing I saw wasn't hovering it was on the floor making the shape/seal of the baphomet head in a pentagram. 

 

Edit - btw the word shaytan describes a state of being, not a creature - the Quran mentions human and djinn shaytaans. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by kninjahman

[shabbirss]

8 minutes ago, kninjahman said:

 

Please tell me more - the thing I saw wasn't hovering it was on the floor making the shape/seal of the baphomet head in a pentagram. 

it was around 11pm.. i went to have a smoke by the window and saw it..
it was like the tongue of a flame, just hovering mid air on the street...
around 10metres high... just hovering, in one spot.no smoke, just a flame

the moment i saw it, i was instantly filled with disgust, hate, a "disgustful" hate of it...
automatically i just started reciting the verses for protection - ayat ul kursi
after reciting, i just closed the windows, drew the curtains and paid no more attention to it.

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regarding the reptilian stuff...

one of my friends (hindu) ...
his wife used to get the "nag" / nagas trance...
i witnessed myself once, how she fell to the floor and writhe about like a snake.
on her forehead, something like a triangle formed.
my friend being a maverick of sorts got fed up, slapped her across the forehead
and she normalised.

his thoughts on this was that it is not from the Creator at all...
that it's simply a distraction to lead people away from the truth.

i don't know exactly what that was, but i know that the jinn i saw is
exactly how the Quran describes it, a smokeless flame.

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by shabbirss