Mr KLaaTu Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, Dann said: God has no ego, hmm Remember one of the commandments, god is gelous, you should have no other gods because i'm a jelous god. Darn I found it. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God This also shares an insignt that there are other gods who the lord competes with from other lands. But that is just the lord yah, the elohim do not have egos, they 'have supper inflated egos' And Jesus shares a secret and says 'there are many 'elohim' You just did not read the bible in the most proper manner because you are in dysneyland bible mode. Well that is your god not mine haha. I'm not here to convert you, I would not want you to be the fellow of the craft with me. Just stay away from us with Jesus and your god. This thread is also open to this discussion, I don't see any point in getting upset. You don't like it don't participate. You once again did not answer my question. No, it indicates people were worshipping Gods that do not exist. Why do you start with the insulting again, with your Disneyland nonsense? It is you that does not understand what you are quoting. You quote English translations that find their origin in Hebrew. Certain words in Hebrew are very difficult to translate correctly with one word in English. As you will find that, in context it means such things as: 'punishing those who hate him' 'demanding exclusive service' Which is a little more along the lines of what was meant. And who is us? Do you speak for others here now? Or are you with others that share your extremely negative and twisted views on everything? You are a very insulting and negative individual. But still..... Have a nice day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: What craft is that Freemasons or copy pasta Kraft dinner? I did not say I'm a mason, you are making things up, as for my copy paste, i'm just pasting from the bible, how do you want us to debate on your book if we don't post quotes from the bible. It's impossible, we paste a passage from your book then we elaborate on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Mr KLaaTu said: You once again did not answer my question. No, it indicates people were worshipping Gods that do not exist. Why do you start with the insulting again, with your Disneyland nonsense? It is you that does not understand what you are quoting. You quote English translations that find their origin in Hebrew. Certain words in Hebrew are very difficult to translate correctly with one word in English. As you will find that, in context it means such things as: 'punishing those who hate him' 'demanding exclusive service' Which is a little more along the lines of what was meant. And who is us? Do you speak for others here now? Or are you with others that share your extremely negative and twisted views on everything? You are a very insulting and negative individual. But still..... Have a nice day! I answered you question, there are many quotes hinting there are many, with in 'our image' If god made you, it would say in his image, not 'our image' so that is not smart from you. Elohim | Hebrew god | Britannica Though Elohim is plural in form, it is understood in the singular sense. Thus, in Genesis the words, “In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth,” Elohim is monotheistic in connotation, though its grammatical structure seems polytheistic. The Israelites probably borrowed the Canaanite plural noun Elohim and made it singular in meaning in their cultic practices and theological reflections. So the form of this god is plural, the rest is made up to say it's singular. The elohim in the bible, use 'let us' or 'has become like one of us' or 'in our image' not in his image, but plural 'in their image' The name elohim that is already plural apears also with this plural forms of 'us' 'in our image' ' one of us' clearly you have not red the thread from the very start and you have come here to bring discord into this thread that is made for us expressing our disgust. the title of the thread reads, 'Why is christianity so imoral' and we are here to talk why. You are not on the topic, this topic is only why it's such a bullshit, and we are here to answer. You are clearly off topic and here to troll us, you are clearly at fault. Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Each nation has his own elohim, as the elder elohims, the most elders split and gave portions to their children. Miḵah (Micah) 4:5 For all the peoples walk, each one in the name of his mighty one'elohim', but we walk in the Name of יהוה our Elohim forever and ever. It tells you here that each nation has one, and that It's a lie, monotheistic bullshit. So the elohim of israel is Yahweh, and he got a portion from the elder gods when they split the nations. This is in costrast with this passage from the bible; When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundariesof the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. 9But the LORD’s portion is His people, Jacob His allotted inheritance. 10He found him in a desert land, in a barren, howling wilderness; He surrounded him, He instructed him, He guarded him as the apple of His eye.… So the lord recived a portion from the elder elohim that is EL the cannanite god, because his sons and daughters were called bene elohim. EL is singular for one elohim god, but it's one of the many elder gods. So the elder gods gave their children the smaller elohim portions and divided the nations and yahweh portion is Israel. The term Elohim is not hebrew, it comes from the cannaites and babylonians, where in the land of cannan they had gods, and these gods were called ELOHIM for plural and EL for a single of these ELOHIM gods Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr KLaaTu Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dann said: I answered you question, there are many quotes hinting there are many, with in 'our image' If god made you, it would say in his image, not 'our image' so that is not smart from you. Elohim | Hebrew god | Britannica Though Elohim is plural in form, it is understood in the singular sense. Thus, in Genesis the words, “In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth,” Elohim is monotheistic in connotation, though its grammatical structure seems polytheistic. The Israelites probably borrowed the Canaanite plural noun Elohim and made it singular in meaning in their cultic practices and theological reflections. So the form of this god is plural, the rest is made up to say it's singular. The elohim in the bible, use 'let us' or 'has become like one of us' or 'in our image' not in his image, but plural 'in their image' The name elohim that is already plural apears also with this plural forms of 'us' 'in our image' ' one of us' clearly you have not red the thread from the very start and you have come here to bring discord into this thread that is made for us expressing our disgust. the title of the thread reads, 'Why is christianity so imoral' and we are here to talk why. You are not on the topic, this topic is only why it's such a bullshit, and we are here to answer. You are clearly off topic and here to troll us, you are clearly at fault. I know what the bible says. And I already knew you were going to start with the 'in OUR image' etc. Certain people can lead others to a certain point, are you aware of that? I personally doubt you are, although you may now lie and say you do, breaking another commandment. At the end of the day buddy... Well.. The topic title is a false premise. It asks a question as if that is some kind of fact, which it isn't. I have already disputed that with a short argumentation. There is nothing more to say about it really. You are free to assume anything you like about why the bible continues in plural in certain cases. But the fact is, you weren't there, you didn't write it, so all you can really do is speculate why it says that. To then speculate and assume all kinds of negative things about it is just awful. I see that all the time coming from atheists aka satanists. How are they satanists people might ask? Well, they follow the satanic motto of: 'Choosing ones own will over the will of an externalized ruling God.' They do not worship a mistranslated, non-existent entity. It includes such things as choosing the left-hand path. It states clearly in the bible that the goats(satanic symbolism right?) are separated to the left. Amazing coincidence isn't it? Well, I believe you are a satanist for rejecting God/Jesus and speaking badly about something which was meant good and in certain cases actually DID do good. Stop your childish, oh he is here to troll us, because I do not agree with you. Typical ad hominem attacks of people who bite off more than they can chew. That is all I have to say to you. And for what it's worth.... Have a nice day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr KLaaTu said: I know what the bible says. And I already knew you were going to start with the 'in OUR image' etc. Certain people can lead others to a certain point, are you aware of that? I personally doubt you are, although you may now lie and say you do, breaking another commandment. At the end of the day buddy... Well.. The topic title is a false premise. It asks a question as if that is some kind of fact, which it isn't. I have already disputed that with a short argumentation. There is nothing more to say about it really. You are free to assume anything you like about why the bible continues in plural in certain cases. But the fact is, you weren't there, you didn't write it, so all you can really do is speculate why it says that. To then speculate and assume all kinds of negative things about it is just awful. I see that all the time coming from atheists aka satanists. How are they satanists people might ask? Well, they follow the satanic motto of: 'Choosing ones own will over the will of an externalized ruling God.' They do not worship a mistranslated, non-existent entity. It includes such things as choosing the left-hand path. It states clearly in the bible that the goats(satanic symbolism right?) are separated to the left. Amazing coincidence isn't it? Well, I believe you are a satanist for rejecting God/Jesus and speaking badly about something which was meant good and in certain cases actually DID do good. Stop your childish, oh he is here to troll us, because I do not agree with you. Typical ad hominem attacks of people who bite off more than they can chew. That is all I have to say to you. And for what it's worth.... Have a nice day! How am I ling, it's right there, i posted from the bible. You are making things up to excuse this god thing. Here is it along with a source from a bible online. https://www.bible.com/bible/316/MIC.4.5.TS2009 Micah 4:5 CLV(i) 5 for all the peoples shall go, each man in the name of his elohim, yet we will go in the name of Yahweh our Elohim, for the eon and further." This in constrast with the portion the lord takes when the nations are divided. It makes perfect sense. So the most high elohim divides the nations, the elders divide it and yahweh takes his portion, and the rest do also, and the nations are divided with each elohim for one nation. The truth is tragedy for the Jesus sect, they don't know how to remain brainwashed dead, it's tragedy for them to find out the truth. Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Now you know the truth, once you know the truth and you continue with these gods you will end up straight in hell. There is no mercy this time. You have to know the truth first so there are no 'excuses' no where to run and hide. Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dann said: Now you know the truth, once you know the truth and you continue with these gods you will end up straight in hell. There is no mercy this time. You have to know the truth first so there are no 'excuses' no where to run and hide. Dude, you ARE hell. Look at yourself, the way you think, they way you talk to people.... You're already there..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mr KLaaTu said: Have a nice day! I don't think this guy has had a nice day in a long long while.... He is deserving more of our pity than anything else... Edited September 18, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: Dude, you ARE hell. Look at yourself, the way you think, they way you talk to people.... You're already there..... You will see what I mean. Your religion = bulox and zero salvation. There is no salvation, only disaster waiting around the corner, it's a thin line, very very thin line. i laugh at your gods. You will see what will happen in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dann said: You will see what I mean. Your religion = bulox and zero salvation. There is no salvation, only disaster waiting around the corner, it's a thin line, very very thin line. i laugh at your gods. You will see what will happen in the end. This has nothing to do with religion this is to do with you and the kind of person you seem to be. We will indeed see what happens at the end..... but I've already caught a glimpse. My warning to you is that you are in deep darkness. All hate, negativity, judgement on others, but there's nothing good to be discerned in your character. And you will take all of that with you into the next world. The next world will be everything you project.... except us good folks on the Icke forum won't be anywhere near you. You'll be trapped with your own kind....... all hatred, moaning, grumbling, judging and pointing fingers..... and not the slightest ray of light, hope or goodness to be found.. That is what is waiting for you my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: This has nothing to do with religion this is to do with you and the kind of person you seem to be. We will indeed see what happens at the end..... but I've already caught a glimpse. My warning to you is that you are in deep darkness. All hate, negativity, judgement on others, but there's nothing good to be discerned in your character. And you will take all of that with you into the next world. The next world will be everything you project.... except us good folks on the Icke forum won't be anywhere near you. You'll be trapped with your own kind....... all hatred, moaning, grumbling, judging and pointing fingers..... and not the slightest ray of light, hope or goodness to be found.. That is what is waiting for you my friend. It has because all this bullshit in the end is the thing is going to cost you, this jesus thing. I'm done here preaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Dann said: It has because all this bullshit in the end is the thing is going to cost you, this jesus thing. I'm done here preaching Seems I've struck a chord.... I only want what's the best for you...... because I'm a Christian and I want to help others..... Rather than you trying to deny me my paradise I would rather wish one on you. But you're going to have to change. This is nothing to do with religion, just Metaphysics 101. If you were trapped in a room for eternity with projections of your own consciousness what would that look like Dann? It's just a metaphor of course..... but quite a pertinent and salient one I feel. Edited September 18, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Seems I've struck a chord.... I only want what's the best for you...... because I'm a Christian and I want to help others..... Rather than you trying to deny me my paradise I would rather wish one on you. But you're going to have to change. This is nothing to do with religion, just Metaphysics 101. If you were trapped in a room for eternity with projections of your own consciousness what would that look like Dann? It's just a metaphor of course..... but quite a pertinent and salient one I feel. You can't help me, you can't even help your self, you are brainwashed dead and you want to help others. What paradise is that , were you eat lamb and pork and sing Jesus is great. Why don't you go take a cold bath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dann said: You can't help me, you can't even help your self, you are brainwashed dead and you want to help others. What paradise is that , were you eat lamb and pork and sing Jesus is great. Why don't you go take a cold bath Only you can help yourself.....but I think you would rather bring others into hell than try to get yourself out of it. I don't know what's with the cold bath reference.... seems a bit weird. Are you imagining me with no clothes on? Edited September 18, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Only you can help yourself.....but I think you would rather bring others into hell than try to get yourself out of it. I don't know what's with the cold bath reference.... seems a bit weird. Are you imagining me with no clothes on? Tell me when you eat the lamb, an innocent animal, do you ask it if it wants to be eaten. The indulgence into innocence of the lamb. They have lamb for easter, you are eating Jesus the lamb for easter. Jesus said eat from me, eat from my body in the body 'eat from him because he is sado masochistic' He is the bread of life sent forth by these gods, to be the lamb for everyone, it's why they are having the lamb for easter, they are eating Jesus. It's sick and perverted. Each easter you are eating Jesus the lamb, the sacrificial lamb set forth by god, and jesus said eat from me , eat from my body' i am life, eat because i'm a sadist. You should take a cold bath to wake up from this Jesus zombie religion, is what i meant. It does not cost me, nothing, no cost. It only costs you, you accepted Jesus sacrifice for you, I don't. You have to go with Jesus the tiger, Jesus owns you. It is you who needs help, i'm fine without Jesus. Don't forget to indulge into some pork chops and then say Jesus saves in the most sadistic way, shout at the skies, maybe he will hear you Jesus called the gods, what a cry pussy, but the gods did not care for him, they sent him to be jew trash can sin colecter. What a dumb ass to die for a bunch of baby eaters. Stay away from me Jesus, you have your zombie followers He has his zombie followers, you are one of them. This disturbed our kind, and we cannot get disturbed. I don't want your F-ing Jesus. You disturb us you pay you zombie. Your a zombie roaming on the sidewalk, bothering us. I see your kind everyday popping in my face with religious crap. You are like remote controled. You are going to pay for what you are doing, for not letting us be. Do you understand Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dann said: Tell me when you eat the lamb, an innocent animal, do you ask it if it wants to be eaten. The indulgence into innocence of the lamb. They have lamb for easter, you are eating Jesus the lamb for easter. Jesus said eat from me, eat from my body in the body 'eat from him because he is sado masochistic' He is the bread of life sent forth by these gods, to be the lamb for everyone, it's why they are having the lamb for easter, they are eating Jesus. It's sick and perverted. Each easter you are eating Jesus the lamb, the sacrificial lamb set forth by god, and jesus said eat from me , eat from my body' i am life, eat because i'm a sadist. You should take a cold bath to wake up from this Jesus zombie religion, is what i meant. It does not cost me, nothing, no cost. It only costs you, you accepted Jesus sacrifice for you, I don't. You have to go with Jesus the tiger, Jesus owns you. It is you who needs help, i'm fine without Jesus. Don't forget to indulge into some pork chops and then say Jesus saves in the most sadistic way, shout at the skies, maybe he will hear you Sadistic, sick and perverted. Sado masochistic, cold bath, sadistic, sick, perverted, cold bath.... Yeah.... that seems to be the core of your interests. That's a lot of very specific projection. So enjoy that for eternity. You're all the same really, you damaged people. I've seen it all before. But instead of trying to search through the wisdom of Jesus for a way to escape your pain you blame God, Jesus or harmless forum Christians.... anyone you can attack without immediate consequences. You have to forgive the person who hurt you...then your pain will disappear and you will be free. Edited September 18, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Sadistic, sick and perverted. Sado masochistic, cold bath, sadistic, sick, perverted, cold bath.... Yeah.... that seems to be the core of your interests. That's a lot of very specific projection. So enjoy that for eternity. You're all the same really, you damaged people. I've seen it all before. But instead of trying to search through the wisdom of Jesus for a way to escape your pain you blame God, Jesus or harmless forum Christians.... anyone you can attack without immediate consequences. You have to forgive the person who hurt you...then your pain will disappear and you will be free. You should review my posts and why I'm here. Good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dann said: You should review my posts and why I'm here. Good day. I know why you're here. Because you've nowhere else to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Because you've nowhere else to go. There's the whole normie web for people to criticize Christianity, not sure why anyone would join a forum like this to mainly just focus on that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: There's the whole normie web for people to criticize Christianity, not sure why anyone would join a forum like this to mainly just focus on that topic. Because the enemy noticed something within the consciousness that threatens it's hold over people and attempts to disrupt, distract, and direct attention away from the threat, by using another human tuned in to it's wavelength and believing garbage it(ego/egoMatrix) has fed it, and then spewing such garbage in a thread, thereby.... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Except; The Truth is unstoppable. Edited September 18, 2021 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, novymir said: Because the enemy noticed something within the consciousness that threatens it's hold over people and attempts to disrupt, distract, and direct attention away from the threat, by using another human tuned in to it's wavelength and believing garbage it(ego/egoMatrix) has fed it, and then spewing such garbage in a thread, thereby.... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Except; The Truth is unstoppable. I'm holding religion by it's balls, with concoius craphola. What a bunch of crap. This thread topic is, why it is so immoral, not 'there is a gap in the ozone layer that threatens your hocus pocus' Thanks for trashing this thread with off topic nonsene. The starter of this thread I respect, he wanted to know why Jesus religion is such a bullshit. We;re done, not my problem. Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Nature please O nature wipe the crap out of them 'get rid of them' so I don't have to smell their stink. 2 hours ago, Truthspoon said: I know why you're here. Because you've nowhere else to go. Only a zombie would say that, because he is focused only on what he is instructed to do. I have my garden, my hobbies, my set of ideals and you are telling me I have no where to go. Like Jesus is the only way to live your life, that is not a healthy mind set. And evereyone asks why , and you say because Jesus said in this book Hahahahhaha and PFFFFTTttttttt Don't get upset but you are a zombie, you are one of those I see around, it's okay you will go with your jesus and we can finally be free of this BIBLE BULLCRAP that has cost me my youth. Eat meat chops and sing in the church Jesus song. If you don't you are anti christian, if you go into nature and eat greens you are with the devil, curse curse, evil tree lover haha. Edited September 18, 2021 by Dann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Dann said: You should review my posts and why I'm here. Good day. Thanks, I have reviewed your posts, and I think I have figured out why you're here. Goodbye! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Thanks, I have reviewed your posts, and I think I have figured out why you're here. Goodbye! Probably the best thing for everyone, including Dann. He seemed to be getting himself quite worked up. He'd be better of doing his gardening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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