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11 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

No. You're wrong. AGAIN.

 

Shabbat (שַׁבָּת; related to Hebrew verb "cease, rest") is the seventh day of the Jewish week and is the day of rest and abstention from work as commanded by God.

 

the name for planet saturn is  sabath.

 

you're confused not me.

you should read more religious dogma, you are going to believe in your god blind pfffff. that is not good.

 

so let's see if you are right.

i guess i'll have to use wikypedia with you.

Shabtai - Wikipedia

Shabtai (Sabbatai, Sabbathai, Shabbatai, Shabbethai, etc.) is a Jewish name common in the Middle Ages for boys born on Shabbat, and may refer to:

 

 

  • Saturn (known as Shabtai in Hebrew)

 

 

Israeli scientists crack the mystery of Saturn's day (ynetnews.com)

The length of a day for most of the planets in the solar system is clear physical data and well-known to modern science. Until now, however, there was no accurate data on how long it took Saturn (or "Shabtai" in Hebrew) to make a full turn on its axis.

 

 

so we see in these sources that sabath is derived from the word saturn in hebrew.

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44 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

No. You're wrong. AGAIN.

 

Shabbat (שַׁבָּת; related to Hebrew verb "cease, rest") is the seventh day of the Jewish week and is the day of rest and abstention from work as commanded by God.

it became the 7 day after they adopted a 7 day week from the babylonians, the hebrews only had 6 days in their week with sabath being the last day. the six day

 

rest day is birth day of adam, the six day, sabath. the day of man, of adam.

right makes sence, it's your birth day, you rest and have a good time.

 

if you like to read how the 7 day came to be you can read here;

 

 

How the Days of the Week Received Their Names - Tales of Times Forgotten

The first people to develop a calendar with weeks consisting of seven days were the ancient Babylonians. Each day of the Babylonian week was associated with one of the seven celestial bodies that are visible with the naked eye.

 

 

this after babylonians capture the jews and they were in captivity they came with things from them, including the talmud, the kabala and 7 day weekend plus other things.

 

they only had 6 days prior to this, this is late , it changes late. the day of rest was saturn, and it was the end of the weekend the six day.

 

later sabath becomes the 7 day

 

here are a few extra sources.

 

Where the Five-Day Workweek Came From - The Atlantic

The roots of the seven-day week can be traced back about 4,000 years, to Babylon. The Babylonians believed there were seven planets in the solar system, and the number seven held such power to them that they planned their days around it. Their seven-day, planetary week spread to Egypt, Greece, and eventually to Rome, where it turns out the Jewish people had their own version of a seven-day week.  (The reason for this is unclear, but some have speculated that the Jews adopted this after their exile in Babylon in the sixth century B.C.) At the very latest, the seven-day week was firmly entrenched in the Western calendar about 250 years before Christ was born.

 

Why Are There Seven Days in a Week? | Discover Magazine

 

The seven-day week spread throughout the Near East. It was adopted by the Jews, who had been captives of the Babylonians at the height of that civilization’s power. Other cultures in the surrounding areas got on board with the seven-day week, including the Persian empire and the Greeks.

 

 

what you saw in the bible is written later after they have addopted the 7 day from the babylonians.

 

 

the sabath is related to planet saturn, and numeral number 6, not 7. this is the original order.

 

you have been decieved.  number 7 is dedicated to this god and to his rest day not to you, to you it's the six day, the day you were created on as the second human sort of, because adam is not the original human, he is bullshit man out of sixes, he he.

 

numeral 7 is either the sun in the sky or the light within saturn in the middle, but not man, man is 6, the sides of saturn, the image of god that is the middle of things, a six replica after this god.

 

blullshit man that walks talks, something of the sort.

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it will be given to you so you know what it is, so you don't make up excuses. 

sort of now you know.

 

you were excused was long as you did not know.

you eat meat it has blood in it, you can see it, once you see the blood coming out of it you should stop eating it.

 

i'm not paying for your crap, none of us are, so get a grip what it really is and you fuck up you pay for it.

 

there is no sado masochistic jesus on the cross to pay for everyone. this is the truth, it's not happening.

 

you do shit you pay for it.

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2 hours ago, Dann said:

it will be given to you so you know what it is, so you don't make up excuses. 

sort of now you know.

 

you were excused was long as you did not know.

you eat meat it has blood in it, you can see it, once you see the blood coming out of it you should stop eating it.

 

i'm not paying for your crap, none of us are, so get a grip what it really is and you fuck up you pay for it.

 

there is no sado masochistic jesus on the cross to pay for everyone. this is the truth, it's not happening.

 

you do shit you pay for it.

It's an illusion Dann, it's not 'reality". It has no real effect or consequence on or in reality,,, except that we've looked away from it for a moment, that moment is already over in Eternity. It's shrinking as I type.

Separation, fear, guilt, and false-judgements is the religion of anti-Christ(ego). You're falling for it...

Try not to take the Matrix/the illusion so seriously----it's actually NOTHING AND NOWHERE.

Be glad these words are True. We Will to go Home. TRUE WILL. IS REAL. (not fraud israel).

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, novymir said:

It's an illusion Dann, it's not 'reality". It has no real effect or consequence on or in reality,,, except that we've looked away from it for a moment, that moment is already over in Eternity. It's shrinking as I type.

Separation, fear, guilt, and false-judgements is the religion of anti-Christ(ego). You're falling for it...

Try not to take the Matrix/the illusion so seriously----it's actually NOTHING AND NOWHERE.

Be glad these words are True. We Will to go Home. TRUE WILL. IS REAL. (not fraud israel).

 

 

 

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i'm not falling for everything, this universe is pretty real to me, there is no illusion in nature, nature is real, the trees have their own fields this planet has it's own fields, even the grass has them, they emanate bio energy.

 

the illusion is the hocus pocus, the magician, with his light tricks.

if you think people and animals on this world are not real then you got a serious issue against reality.

 

i was talking to this guy i rememeber long ago and he said let go of your fear, we were debating the matrix movie, and how they jump from one place to the other , jump the blocks.

 

today i have seen two children splatered on the sidewalk , they were on the news, they feel from the 10th floor, they were playing on the balcony, it's unclear for now, they got on the tip of the balcony above, one thing is for sure 'they were fearless' since they got on top of the balcony, they just failed down and splattered, in the matrix neo falls and the program is reseted, maybe they were playing neo the matrix guy, who knows.

 

Harsh reality they won't be playing anything now.

 

 

these children did not reset like neo, instead their brains just splatered all over the asphalt, today on the news, it saddened me because they were just children.

 

i don't think you understand, your life is not a toy, we don't live in the matrix movie.

the only illusion is a laser holographic light show , then the lights go off and if it's dark you will bump into things because you can't see them. 

 

it's the light of the snake that is the only illusion, the show the snake puts up, the rest seems pretty real to me.

it's like the other world, dimensions of spirit are as real as this material world, they are all accouned for, this is just another dimension that is material out of the many ones who are just spriritual.

 

i'm not buying into this new age bs, with it's all an illusion, let go, and drink pink powder juice.

 

next they will say you can kill your self to see it for your self, and because you are already imbalanced because you drank the cooley, you might just kill your self, kill a life inside of you that was a gift to you once you were born.

 

the gift a life.

 

i don't see a bright future for man, i only see it will get worst, this is what i see.

 

 

i don't have time to make this shit up, so don't think i'm making it up.

 

 

 

you see they were fearless, wondering around, no fear at all.

 

let go of your fears, jump off the fucking balcony, it's an illusion, right, neo just resets, look at neo.

 

i see something else instead here, it's tragedy.  this hocus pocus new age, it's just lies after lies.

 

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haha macnamara you want to become the corn of god

 

some rain, but it's not from your god.

 

i think these events will grow in intensity, it will punish man kind

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19 hours ago, Dann said:

 

the name for planet saturn is  sabath.

 

you're confused not me.

you should read more religious dogma, you are going to believe in your god blind pfffff. that is not good.

 

so let's see if you are right.

i guess i'll have to use wikypedia with you.

Shabtai - Wikipedia

Shabtai (Sabbatai, Sabbathai, Shabbatai, Shabbethai, etc.) is a Jewish name common in the Middle Ages for boys born on Shabbat, and may refer to:

 

 

  • Saturn (known as Shabtai in Hebrew)

 

 

Israeli scientists crack the mystery of Saturn's day (ynetnews.com)

The length of a day for most of the planets in the solar system is clear physical data and well-known to modern science. Until now, however, there was no accurate data on how long it took Saturn (or "Shabtai" in Hebrew) to make a full turn on its axis.

 

 

so we see in these sources that sabath is derived from the word saturn in hebrew.

 

 

 

 

Are you alright? 

 

I'm actually worried about you......  You're definitely confused and maybe a little bit potty.

 

 

Anyway, I'll post it again..

 

Difference is DANN, I wrote this.....didn't scurry around making a messy looking copy pasta.

 

You see, I actually KNOW what I'm talking about.

 

You are just a copy pasta chef.

 

 

There is a curious and undeniable etymological and linguistic equivalency between the Hebrew word Shabbat and the Latin word Saturn. According to a derivation by Cicero in De Nature Deorum:

 

“The Latin designation ‘Saturnus’ on the other hand is due to the fact that he is ‘saturated’ or ‘satiated with years’ (anni); the fable is that he was in the habit of devouring his sons - meaning that Time devours the ages and gorges himself insatiably with the years that are past.”

 

While the Hebrew שָׂבֵעַ: śâba‛ and śâbêa‛ mean to be sated, fulfilled, in the same sense as the Latin ‘satur’. The English word ‘seven’ has its origins in the word Sabbat, although this is more apparent if we look at the French word ‘sept’ which is clearly a form of the word sabbat. In Arabic the number seven is called ‘Saba’. If we consider that Saturday was considered the seventh day of the week before Constantine made ‘Sunday’ the Sabbath day, arguably because Constantine was an unreformed sun worshipper, but this effectively ended millennia of continuity and made the 7th day the 6th day and the 1st day the 7th day. Such a description has been said to fulfil the prophetic Daniel and the fourth beast commonly considered by some Christians to be a foretelling of the Antichrist:

 

“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” Daniel 7:25.

 

If such an analysis is correct it would appear that the Constantine’s Church of Rome was the Antichrist, or at least, one of the beasts which comprise this force which has always sought to destroy the Christian message.

 

Tacitus writes: “We are told that the seventh day was set aside for rest because this marked the end of their toils…Others say that this is a mark of respect to Saturn.”  

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

 

 

Are you alright? 

 

I'm actually worried about you......  You're definitely confused and maybe a little bit potty.

 

 

Anyway, I'll post it again..

 

Difference is DANN, I wrote this.....didn't scurry around making a messy looking copy pasta.

 

You see, I actually KNOW what I'm talking about.

 

You are just a copy pasta chef.

 

 

There is a curious and undeniable etymological and linguistic equivalency between the Hebrew word Shabbat and the Latin word Saturn. According to a derivation by Cicero in De Nature Deorum:

 

“The Latin designation ‘Saturnus’ on the other hand is due to the fact that he is ‘saturated’ or ‘satiated with years’ (anni); the fable is that he was in the habit of devouring his sons - meaning that Time devours the ages and gorges himself insatiably with the years that are past.”

 

While the Hebrew שָׂבֵעַ: śâba‛ and śâbêa‛ mean to be sated, fulfilled, in the same sense as the Latin ‘satur’. The English word ‘seven’ has its origins in the word Sabbat, although this is more apparent if we look at the French word ‘sept’ which is clearly a form of the word sabbat. In Arabic the number seven is called ‘Saba’. If we consider that Saturday was considered the seventh day of the week before Constantine made ‘Sunday’ the Sabbath day, arguably because Constantine was an unreformed sun worshipper, but this effectively ended millennia of continuity and made the 7th day the 6th day and the 1st day the 7th day. Such a description has been said to fulfil the prophetic Daniel and the fourth beast commonly considered by some Christians to be a foretelling of the Antichrist:

 

“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” Daniel 7:25.

 

If such an analysis is correct it would appear that the Constantine’s Church of Rome was the Antichrist, or at least, one of the beasts which comprise this force which has always sought to destroy the Christian message.

 

Tacitus writes: “We are told that the seventh day was set aside for rest because this marked the end of their toils…Others say that this is a mark of respect to Saturn.”  

 

 

 

 

 i posted an article to give you a source with it, with the link attached to it.

we're not in a competition, I did so to post from a credible link.

 

the six planet of our solar system is saturn, as for the hexagon representing the planet that it makes it's obvious why it was the six day.

 

the god of the bible is the saturnial god and so is the sabath.

The sabath is the day of man, man's birth day, the six day of the bible genesis.

Man rests on this day, later it became the 7 day.

 

i hope bbc is good enough.

BBC - Religions - Judaism: Sabbath

Every week religious Jews observe the Sabbath, the Jewish holy day, and keep its laws and customs.

The Sabbath begins at nightfall on Friday and lasts until nightfall on Saturday. In practical terms the Sabbath starts a few minutes before sunset on Friday and runs until an hour after sunset on Saturday, so it lasts about 25 hours.

 

 

I don't want to compete with you, you can believe what you want.

I just refuse to worship your god, father lie i believe is his name.

 

No offence, go to church pray to the man on the wall, indoctrinate your children into crhistian religious doctrine, say amen, eat pork chops, fart while walking on the side walk, and then say i'm normal they are not, we have or christian faith, haheluja.  Procede to your living dead culture.

 

The culture of the living dead awaits judgement day when father snake lie judges as the elder man.

 

 

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this is the six day of creation

 

  1. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
  2. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
  3. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
  4. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
  5. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
  6. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

 

if you notice it says there, 'be fruitful and multiply, and replentish the earth and subdue it.

 

the word replentish can only be used in a contex where there was something else and it ran out, word replentish can only mean that there was something else before that it ran out and now it needs to be replentish repopulated.

 

 

and replenish the earth, and subdue it

 

meaning there was something else before prior to all of this and god created man to replentish the earth, because something happened and the earth needed to be replentished, repopulated.

 

as i said the world replentish cannot be used in any other contex except if there was something else before this, you don't use the word replentish to fill in something new, only if something has empty out you re-plentish it. 

 

So before this there was the other man, that your god infested and his genetic material turned to dust, and from dust your god reformed his gene by giving him his image, his dna, image of god means the genetic structure of god.

 

but it's a lie because all tho we're all adamic now our dormant energies our soul from prevous man still remains and god can't wipe it out as much as it wanted to. Just the dna and surface energies got 'dusted' to dust and dust, ashes to ashes dust to dust.

 

god can't judge me, but he can judge you, because you crawl before it's presence and ask god to forgive you. You are of your god, father lies.

 

Soon the construct of reality will hit you on your head, i love reality, it's the ultimate judge, you live in this bullshit fantasy world created by god inside your head, where deer, wild goose and wild rabbits hop inside your head under the rainbow from biblical times to give you bliss.

 

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

 

 

Are you alright? 

 

I'm actually worried about you......  You're definitely confused and maybe a little bit potty.

 

 

Anyway, I'll post it again..

 

Difference is DANN, I wrote this.....didn't scurry around making a messy looking copy pasta.

 

You see, I actually KNOW what I'm talking about.

 

You are just a copy pasta chef.

 

 

There is a curious and undeniable etymological and linguistic equivalency between the Hebrew word Shabbat and the Latin word Saturn. According to a derivation by Cicero in De Nature Deorum:

 

“The Latin designation ‘Saturnus’ on the other hand is due to the fact that he is ‘saturated’ or ‘satiated with years’ (anni); the fable is that he was in the habit of devouring his sons - meaning that Time devours the ages and gorges himself insatiably with the years that are past.”

 

While the Hebrew שָׂבֵעַ: śâba‛ and śâbêa‛ mean to be sated, fulfilled, in the same sense as the Latin ‘satur’. The English word ‘seven’ has its origins in the word Sabbat, although this is more apparent if we look at the French word ‘sept’ which is clearly a form of the word sabbat. In Arabic the number seven is called ‘Saba’. If we consider that Saturday was considered the seventh day of the week before Constantine made ‘Sunday’ the Sabbath day, arguably because Constantine was an unreformed sun worshipper, but this effectively ended millennia of continuity and made the 7th day the 6th day and the 1st day the 7th day. Such a description has been said to fulfil the prophetic Daniel and the fourth beast commonly considered by some Christians to be a foretelling of the Antichrist:

 

“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” Daniel 7:25.

 

If such an analysis is correct it would appear that the Constantine’s Church of Rome was the Antichrist, or at least, one of the beasts which comprise this force which has always sought to destroy the Christian message.

 

Tacitus writes: “We are told that the seventh day was set aside for rest because this marked the end of their toils…Others say that this is a mark of respect to Saturn.”  

 

 

 

 

haha you are confusing numeral 6 with numeral 7

hilarious, i won't say anything.

 

7

sapte - Google Search

 

6

sase number - Google Search

 

september does not derive from what you say, it's derived from the word sap meaning seven.

 

 

Saba comes from number six, it is the 7 of the sixes made out of the sixes.

it represented the original six day of the week when the week was just six days long.

 

the bible got written in time you see, why you see 7 as the rest day, but before any of this before they wrote this down the week had only six days, and on the six day, 'saturn day' they would buy and sell, it later became the rest day.

 

the sabath was represented by shopping, it is later that it turns into rest day and the seven day, this LORD made it the seven day, you have no idea what planet you live on. 

 

and they say in the bible, to calculate if you are good at it, the image of god, sell buy, no one can sell and buy if they don't have the image of god 'image of the beast' 666 and you can buy and sell with it, if you don't have the mark you will not be able to shop, go buy and sell.

 

You read the bible in the wrong way, because the hebrews who knew the craft of the hebrews, were against the jews that have less hebrew heritage.

 

so you got in the bible differnt factions that are against eachother.

 

This lord Jehova is not the elohim god, and there is a conflict between jehova and elohim.

This lord god is a child of the Elohim, but not really the gods adopted him and he got rebirth out of saturn, but they did not manage to change him for good.

 

If you read the cananite mytholigy, EL the elder god that is the elder elohim god has many children, among these children there are two brothers Yah and Bal,  and where ever yah go's so does bal.

 

So ball is the brother of Yah, and it is written that Yahweh gets a portion a son of the elohim, jacob and his people.

But the lord knows he is not of these Snakes, so there is a conflict between them, because prior to being addopted this lord comes from Lemurian descendance. Bal is the lord's other side, his temperment. The anger of the lord.

 

So the snakes adopts Jehova and he is born again from saturn sort of speak, from them.

You're with the snakes, not with this lord god, at least this Jehova lord god is more direct.

As for me I'm not obligated to worship any of them, but this lord Jehova is like better than the elohim if you ask me.

How ever i'm obligated to tell you this, what is what and that is it, no more obligations.

 

Not our problem anyway, you are walking a very thin line anyway, your kind.

These gods and lords are no match for the source, once the source decides it is game over, it is game over.

 

I walk down the street and the puppets play church music just when i pass by, they see me and say god is great, and i'm like in my mind, fuck off with your religion and your god.

 

They are not going to stop until some major earthquake collapses their house with them inside of it.

When it does, I will laugh near their grave and say 'WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING GOD NOW'

 

We don't need to suffer because of your kind, fuck your kind, i'm not going to suffer for you, pay for your own shit, i'm not paying.

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2 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

I'm sorry but not only are you wrong but you're obviously nutty. I won't speak to you anymore. It's cringe.

sabath is the day of saturn, you can believe what you want.

 

from the bible

 

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

9For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

 

 

 

but the original manuscript does not read like this. instead of most high the name elohim appears.

and you see the lord has a portion given to him by this most high, elohim, he inherits them from the most high. 

 

in the original the name of children of israel does not appear since it would be fullish for the jews to own the nations, but the scribes changed it, instead the name 'children of god' apear.

 

 

it says here;

 

For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance." Deut. 32:9

"And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in the day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him." Mal. 3:17

 

so they were not his, the elohim gave them to this lord as his portion, because he made portions for his children to inherit nations.

 

But he gave the lord the people who he was related with, because the lord altho a child of the elohim had another past before the adoption of lord jehova into the elohim hood, he came forth after as a son of these elder gods.

 

You are readying a book of lies modified and translated in a wrong manner by the scribes of israel intentionaly

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5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Cringe copy pasta.


I nominate you Dann, the David Icke Forum's King of Cringe.

 

 

you're crazy i posted from the bible, to show you it's bullshit.

 

you are indeed ignorant, religious brainwashed dead.

 

From 

Deuteronomy 32:8 

 

i'm posting from your religious book.

pffft absolute garbage.

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Dann says: "It's the seven of the sixes made out of sixes."

 

I'm going to get that printed on a T-shirt.

 

People will stop me and ask me what it means and I will say I have NO FUCKING IDEA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Dann says: "It's the seven of the sixes made out of sixes."

 

I'm going to get that printed on a T-shirt.

 

People will stop me and ask me what it means and I will say I have NO FUCKING IDEA.

 

 

34 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

 

 

 

well why don't you figure it out.

 

hexagon_saturn.jpg

 

if this star of israel has six sides seven must mean the middle and represent the god of saturn.

it's not so hard once you give up the red meat.

 

this is the flag of israel right, and the 7 day is of this god, the six day is of the men he created in his image.

 

so this god is in the middle and man is represented by the day he was created on, the sides of the star, the hexagon

 

so in the begining the jews did not have a 7 day weekend, man did not have a 7 day only six days, and on the six day representing man this man made on the six day, man would buy and sell stuff, it was the day of trade.

This is the original meaning of the sabath.

 

and then in the bible they say you cannot buy or trade if you don't have the mark of saturn on you,. the mark of this snake god and associated with trading, selling and buying.

 

it is later that it becomes the day of rest.

 

you know nothing, but i'm obligated to tell it to you, just limited information and that is it.

 

they add one more day, sunday becomes the first day for the jews, but this is only later.

 

it even tells you, let those who know calculate the number of the beast it's '666' meaning this mark of saturn, and then it go's to tell you exatly this, that this day is for trade, and you cannot buy or sell if you do not have this mark, this image.

 

It then go's to tell you that this number is the number of ',MAN' and what day did elohim create man, i believe it was the six day of the week.  So man is the beast, with the seal of saturn on him, it's man kind, you are the beast, the adamic kind is the BEAST. FOR IT IS A NUMBER OF A MAN  [the number of man]number 6 the day he was created on

 

so six represents the hexagon and the 7 point is the middle of it.

but this is for saturn, number 7 naturally represents the sun in the sky.

 

good good good, you must know, and be responsible.   

no more i did not know

 

You fuck up you go to hell, hahahaha, no more we did not know.

 

goooood everyone will know, we don't pay for your fucking shit nor for your fucking god.

 

 

you eat red meat we don't pay for your meat, you pay for it in saturn.

saturn is your grocery store i believe, it only has bullshit juice and red meat.

 

Here is the seal of aproval from saturn

 

Hex.jpg?mw=1000&mh=800

 

you like all that red meat, mmm saturn is your thing, just look it's all red meat.

 

we're finally going to get rid of predators , you're going home with your god.

 

 

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of course this is not the trade you think of, but i'm not telling, it is specific to something.

the deals you make, it's your business. they bought slaves on saturday and made deals signing papers.

Ownage of other people, and other things that i won't post here.

 

mercury is the planet of real commerce, saturn is the other type of commerce, the trade of things, you trade this for that.

 

your problem what you trade, not mine.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Dann said:

you're crazy i posted from the bible, to show you it's bullshit.

 

you are indeed ignorant, religious brainwashed dead.

 

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Deuteronomy 32:8 

 

i'm posting from your religious book.

pffft absolute garbage.

 

Thats Old Testament and doesn't apply much, Jesus came and established a new Covenant and washed away the Old Testament. Also the Old Testament is based on Pagan myths and should not be taken to seriously.

 

You are also quoting from Revelation, well there was much debate about whether to include it in the Bible and obviously eventually they did but again it is a Kabbalistic vision based on earlier Pagan myth and probably or possibly has absolutely no bearing whatsoever.

 

The fact that we see certain people following the plan is another discussion.

 

Neither Revelations or Deuteronomy have much bearing on Roman Christianity or reality. They do declare in Deuteronomy that God is one so they get something right.

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11 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Thats Old Testament and doesn't apply much, Jesus came and established a new Covenant and washed away the Old Testament. Also the Old Testament is based on Pagan myths and should not be taken to seriously.

 

You are also quoting from Revelation, well there was much debate about whether to include it in the Bible and obviously eventually they did but again it is a Kabbalistic vision based on earlier Pagan myth and probably or possibly has absolutely no bearing whatsoever.

 

The fact that we see certain people following the plan is another discussion.

 

Neither Revelations or Deuteronomy have much bearing on Roman Christianity or reality. They do declare in Deuteronomy that God is one so they get something right.

We were not talking about laws of the old testament, I don't know what you mean.

We were talking in the old testament how it is written that these elder gods elohim split the nations and gave portions to their sons, and how lord jehova was one of them, he recived jacob and his people as a portion from the elders.

 

but then we were debating that this jehova is not really trully the son of the elohim but he was adopted and took birth from thes saturn like beings, rebirth from these elder gods and Jacob and his people it seems are his heritage, so the elohim gave them to him because it's his own people, the hebrews, the lord traces his heritage from his people, he was of these people prior to being adopted. These hebrew people are before adam.

 

Then there is jesus and the jews, and you, and half baked cookies , the jew is babylonian mixed with some hebrew and other arabic elements, he has his babylonian traits. 

 

It's why the jew has the talmud, the kabala because he is babylonian. As the name implies the Kaba-la or the word Kaba means CUBE. KABA = CUBE, CUBA. Kabala is the science of the cube and jesus practiced it.

 

It does not matter if it's the old or new, in the new testament Jesus teaches us how to beat slaves when they go wrong.

Jesus says if the slave go's wrong intentionally to beat him in a severe way, and if the slave is not at fault and you are angry still beat the slave but less, hahahaha

 

 

So it's all garbage anyway, you would have to get hit on your head with a rod and forget what it is to still practice these religions.

 

This god is not one but many gods, you are indoctrinated to the core it seems.

In the genesis the name Elohim appears in the original manuscripts, and the word for Elohim is plural for gods, not only this but but if you look in genesis what does it say. It says in the genesis bible, man has become like 'one of us'   what us, if it's just one god, it's many not one. man has become like one of them.

 

Another aspect from the genesis book is;

Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

 

You see plural appears many times, 'let us'  'in our image'  'in our likeness' and it;s not god said, in the original manuscripts the name Elohim appears not god, or lord god or our lord god.

So it's not in his image but in 'their image' as in what they were, their image and what they liked.

 

It is later that the jewish scribes modifies the word elohim with 'our lord' there for changing the name of elohim to lord god, to pervert everything and make one single god.

 

You have to be crazy to worship any of these gods and to practice the religion of self sacrifice.

 

Obviously the name Elohim is plural for gods, but now the jew priests make up bullshit and say it can be singular too, we know that only EL is singular of the elohim.

 

EL refers to an elohim god out of the many others , when we single out one of these gods we say EL and when plural we say elohim.

 

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1 hour ago, Dann said:

It does not matter if it's the old or new, in the new testament Jesus teaches us how to beat slaves when they go wrong.

Jesus says if the slave go's wrong intentionally to beat him in a severe way, and if the slave is not at fault and you are angry still beat the slave but less, hahahaha

 

 

This god is not one but many gods, you are indoctrinated to the core it seems.

 

Well it seems you have me confused and think I'm a Christian, I oppose most organized Christian theology - Hell, Satan, Lucifer, Original Sin are all Christian lies to me. The exclusivety of the Roman church and its derivatives to claim Jesus as their own is abhorrent to me. And the crimes committed in religions name, not just by Christian but any religion disgusts me to my core. I oppose organized religion. How you thonk I'm indoctrinated is beyond me, I note you edited your text and removed another reference suggesting I'm christian.

 

I have been attending a Unitarian church but thats mostly out of interest and searching for spiritual direction.

 

Regarding Jesus beating slaves, the Bible has been subjected to much alteration and editing, how do you know Jesus actually advocated that and it wasn't inserted by Constantine or the early church writers?

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8 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Well it seems you have me confused and think I'm a Christian, I oppose most organized Christian theology - Hell, Satan, Lucifer, Original Sin are all Christian lies to me. The exclusivety of the Roman church and its derivatives to claim Jesus as their own is abhorrent to me. And the crimes committed in religions name, not just by Christian but any religion disgusts me to my core. I oppose organized religion. How you thonk I'm indoctrinated is beyond me, I note you edited your text and removed another reference suggesting I'm christian.

 

I have been attending a Unitarian church but thats mostly out of interest and searching for spiritual direction.

 

Regarding Jesus beating slaves, the Bible has been subjected to much alteration and editing, how do you know Jesus actually advocated that and it wasn't inserted by Constantine or the early church writers?

it's from the original manuscripts that can be found in israel.

It's not altered by constantine, constantine took some copies of the manuscripts and made a bible, he left some books out and only included some.

 

The only problem we have here is we don't know if Jesus wrote these, since they are after AD written by others in israel.

These people say they wrote in his name, the folowers of Jesus after he died, they wrote what the apostols told them to write.

Anyway the Jesus we see in the bible is not nice, the real man jesus may have been a preacher a priest, a royal israeli blood line, and a traveler.

 

This does not mean I'm going to worship Jesus as the Christ nor his mother as a saint and pray to her icons in church. So to me Jesus may be just a wise being, that had a bigger intelect and understood things, that is it. He is no more than that.

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1 hour ago, Dann said:

it's from the original manuscripts that can be found in israel.

It's not altered by constantine, constantine took some copies of the manuscripts and made a bible, he left some books out and only included some.

 

The only problem we have here is we don't know if Jesus wrote these, since they are after AD written by others in israel.

These people say they wrote in his name, the folowers of Jesus after he died, they wrote what the apostols told them to write.

Anyway the Jesus we see in the bible is not nice, the real man jesus may have been a preacher a priest, a royal israeli blood line, and a traveler.

 

This does not mean I'm going to worship Jesus as the Christ nor his mother as a saint and pray to her icons in church. So to me Jesus may be just a wise being, that had a bigger intelect and understood things, that is it. He is no more than that.

 

I agree with you, especially about worshipping Jesus and his mother, I'm not a polytheist, there is one God. Jesus was a prophet, perhaps a highly advanced man but he was a man.

 

But we still can't be sure what Constantine and others may have put in.

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