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On 7/29/2020 at 8:21 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

To be fair to OP, maybe it's a typo and they mean religion instead of region. That was the main thing that confused me because I don't see any Western nations upholding Christian values. Still would be nice to have a bit of context though.

 

You knew damn well what the op meant; you start trolling them with your smart arsery so no wonder they haven’t come back.

 

Ooh er, maybe they’re controlled opposition 🙄

 

Or maybe English isn’t their first language, or maybe they’re new to this and want to be part of the forum, or many things; I get f...ing tired of the accusations here, especially to new ‘uns; give em a chance.

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5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

@blowonthepie

 

Ok, blow. 🙄

 

I don't think you understand how much of a troll this guy was because I no longer see all the comments on this necro'd thread, but whatever.

 

Looking at his profile, he’s only made three posts; that would include his op here; surely you can’t do much trolling in two posts?

 

I just thought he was new and was trying to start a convo, and being ridiculed, which would be off putting to many.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

Looking at his profile, he’s only made three posts; that would include his op here; surely you can’t do much trolling in two posts?

 

I just thought he was new and was trying to start a convo, and being ridiculed, which would be off putting to many.

 

 

 

My apologies, I was getting mixed up with this thread from a different person:

 

 

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On 7/28/2020 at 7:08 PM, Terence vasa said:

Why is Christianity so immoral.  It rewards evil and punishes the good 

Well, it is obvious to anyone who has done any serious and objective research about it, without prejudice or dogmatic influence (not just christianity, but also judaism and islam).

 

All three religions were created by evil people, to fool and enslave good people into doing evil deeds, thinking evil thoughts, and to worship evil entities who are behind those religions.

 

Yahweh, "lord God" and Allah have absolutely nothing to do with The Creator, they were some really evil entities (both physically and spiritually), and they brainwashed their evil influence into the minds of the gullible.

 

Only good thing that came out of all those three religions are certain teaching of Jesus Christ (our human brother and teacher, not "God in the flesh"), but he and his teaching have nothing to do with church of any kind.

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36 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

Well, it is obvious to anyone who has done any serious and objective research about it, without prejudice or dogmatic influence (not just christianity, but also judaism and islam).

 

 

I have done plenty of serious research and I have seen no evidence to suggest that the three religions you mention are evil. People who follow those religions tend to have peaceful, harmonious, socially cohesive and moral societies. 

 

The problems arise when people stop and societies stop following a religion. Then it just becomes a race to the bottom of moral depravity and social self destruction. We are presently in this phase in the West which started at precisely the time we started to move away from Christianity. The problems the west faces: the breakdown of families, suicide and depression, crime and disorder and the emergence of Satanic forces actually taking over the institutions do not exist in the Muslim world which I happen to be very well acquainted with.

 

I am not a Muslim nor would I become one but their religion works very nicely for them. Which even if you don't want to believe in God and all the other stuff if ultimately religion makes society safer and happier then it is genuinely something good and useful... I think Richard Dawkins has come round to this point of view regarding Christianity. That even though he does not believe it he accepts that it was socially constructive and a good in itself.

 

 

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All three religions were created by evil people, to fool and enslave good people into doing evil deeds, thinking evil thoughts, and to worship evil entities who are behind those religions.

 

Evidence that the religions were created by evil people?

 

The three religions in fact  have opposed real evil, such things as child sacrifice, ritual temple prostitution, slavery.....

 

We will soon  be confronted with real evil because it is what happens when there is no good religion left to oppose it.

 

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Yahweh, "lord God" and Allah have absolutely nothing to do with The Creator, they were some really evil entities (both physically and spiritually), and they brainwashed their evil influence into the minds of the gullible.

 

I wouldn't say they were evil entities.... but you are closer to the truth here. They are perhaps part of a spiritual hierarchy or demiurges. I wouldn't say they were evil entities, just perhaps not ACTUAL GOD. Just kind of impersonating one.

 

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Only good thing that came out of all those three religions are certain teaching of Jesus Christ (our human brother and teacher, not "God in the flesh"), but he and his teaching have nothing to do with church of any kind.

 

Agree with this..... but the church did do a lot to help the poor, end slavery, establish schools and hospitals and such....

 

But the church really was created to try to limit the effect of Jesus' message and hijack it precisely so that we never really experience 'TRUE CHRISTIANITY' and we still haven't.

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51 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

I have done plenty of serious research and I have seen no evidence to suggest that the three religions you mention are evil. People who follow those religions tend to have peaceful, harmonious, socially cohesive and moral societies. 

 

The problems arise when people stop and societies stop following a religion. Then it just becomes a race to the bottom of moral depravity and social self destruction. We are presently in this phase in the West which started at precisely the time we started to move away from Christianity. The problems the west faces: the breakdown of families, suicide and depression, crime and disorder and the emergence of Satanic forces actually taking over the institutions do not exist in the Muslim world which I happen to be very well acquainted with.

 

I am not a Muslim nor would I become one but their religion works very nicely for them. Which even if you don't want to believe in God and all the other stuff if ultimately religion makes society safer and happier then it is genuinely something good and useful... I think Richard Dawkins has come round to this point of view regarding Christianity. That even though he does not believe it he accepts that it was socially constructive and a good in itself.

 

 

 

Evidence that the religions were created by evil people?

 

The three religions in fact  have opposed real evil, such things as child sacrifice, ritual temple prostitution, slavery.....

 

We will soon  be confronted with real evil because it is what happens when there is no good religion left to oppose it.

 

 

I wouldn't say they were evil entities.... but you are closer to the truth here. They are perhaps part of a spiritual hierarchy or demiurges. I wouldn't say they were evil entities, just perhaps not ACTUAL GOD. Just kind of impersonating one.

 

 

Agree with this..... but the church did do a lot to help the poor, end slavery, establish schools and hospitals and such....

 

But the church really was created to try to limit the effect of Jesus' message and hijack it precisely so that we never really experience 'TRUE CHRISTIANITY' and we still haven't.

Hi Truthspoon,

 

As far as I know (and if I'm wrong, I would like you to correct me), there isn't a single country or nation where these "religions of piece" were accepted willfully by local population.

 

Every time "good people of faith" wanted to spread their "words of god" to someone else, they have done that using swords, not words.

 

For example, in my country, Serbia, there were people called Bogumili, somewhere around 11-13 century. They were the most spiritual and peaceful people you could find anywhere in Europe, ever.

Their beliefs were a mix of teachings of Jesus Christ and what some today call "new age".

 

My country had 600.000 people back then, 200.000 of them were Bogumili.

 

Can you guess what happened when they rejected conversion to christianity?

 

They were raped, murdered, having their tongues torn out etc. by "peaceful christians".

 

All of that happened because our ruler at that time needed to convert everyone to christianity in order for him to get his crown from the pope.

 

Now for islam, it is obvious when you see how it started, and how they behave toward non-believers today. Rape and murder are the basics of islam.

 

I know there are many good people in all religions around the world, but for me personally, abrahamic religions, as institutions, are pure evil.

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Rape and murder the basics of Islam?

 

Funny I drove to work and taught the kids and had a nice day, drove back and I didn't see any rape or murders in the Muslim country in which I live.

 

Maybe I live in the real world and not some dark weird fever dream... 

 

I grant you there may have been rapes and murders 13 hundred years ago at the time of the Muslim conquest.....

 

But like I tried to explain, their societies have now settled into peaceful, pleasant and harmonious ones.... they suck at driving though..... I wish there'd been something in the Quran about that.....

 

"Thou shalt not change lanes on a roundabout'.

 

"The fast lane is not for slow infidels but only for righteous over-takers who put their foot down'.

 

 

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Christ=Spirit. The Son. Totality of GOD'S Creation, within GOD. Infinity Within INFINITY. SPIRIT=REALITY.

The Greater part of The Son, operating within REALITY=TRUTH, is present but buried under ego illusions/deceptions.

A tiny part of The Son slipped into a dream of lies, separating virtually from Reality, but not actually, The Truth within, and All-Encompassing is Eternal, there can be no Life apart from It, for IT Is The Life. One With THE ONE. SPIRIT(CONSCIOUSNESS).

The Son Of God cannot be enslaved or killed. But parts of It can be momentarily in denial of Reality and immersed in fantasy........................has the game gone on long enough yet? The only thing the ego and unreality offers is a degrading experience.

An illustration ; I don't particularly like the Doctor character as the Jesus character, but it's not the superficial that has meaning or value but the message and principle;

 

"The world" is not "out there".

 

 

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5 hours ago, novymir said:

Christ=Spirit. The Son. Totality of GOD'S Creation, within GOD. Infinity Within INFINITY. SPIRIT=REALITY.

The Greater part of The Son, operating within REALITY=TRUTH, is present but buried under ego illusions/deceptions.

A tiny part of The Son slipped into a dream of lies, separating virtually from Reality, but not actually, The Truth within, and All-Encompassing is Eternal, there can be no Life apart from It, for IT Is The Life. One With THE ONE. SPIRIT(CONSCIOUSNESS).

The Son Of God cannot be enslaved or killed. But parts of It can be momentarily in denial of Reality and immersed in fantasy........................has the game gone on long enough yet? The only thing the ego and unreality offers is a degrading experience.

An illustration ; I don't particularly like the Doctor character as the Jesus character, but it's not the superficial that has meaning or value but the message and principle;

 

"The world" is not "out there".

 

 

Tosh.

We're human beings (Gods ultimate creation), material, like the world surrounding us.

Be careful what you believe for your future.

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11 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

The Christian way is not immoral.

 

Please explain why you think it is.

 

 

 

It's not real Christianity because  Christ is nature really. So Christianity I am guessing real Christianity  is like pagan nature practice without the pagan gods.

 

Jesus is not the Christ, he's a fake Saturn like figure.

 

Christian religion is as immoral as pork chops are.

If you eat those you are a true religious Christian of Jesus,  because the pig is filth and eats his own excrements, then you eat the pig and you are what you eat, then you go to church and you find out the Priest had pork chops just before holding the preaching. 

 

He eats the most dirty animal on earth then preaches in church the LOVE OF JESUS.

It does not get any immoral than this

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23 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

I laughed but I think Dann is actually serious..... 

 

Yeah I laughed too, Pork chops for breakfast! (Face palm)

 

I see what he's getting at though. You are what you eat, but also as well you are what you think and what you feel too.

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yeah I laughed too, Pork chops for breakfast! (Face palm)

 

I see what he's getting at though. You are what you eat, but also as well you are what you think and what you feel too.

 

Old Dann seems to have the mentality of the Pharisee.

 

 

"Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it." Then the disciples came to Him and said, “Are You aware that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?""

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

The elohim maybe? 

2 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

I laughed but I think Dann is actually serious..... 

 i am , you should read about jesus other books not included in the bible, where jesus shares the secret of salvation, how one can save another.

 

he go's on to say that the tiger eats the man, and this way after the tiger devoured the man it is saved inside of the tiger, part of the tiger, his flesh has become the tiger.

 

so this is what kind of salvation jesus offers.

 

it's all about eating really, this salvation of jesus,  the pig get's saved too once jesus eats from it, it becomes part of jesus, rapture of jesus.

 

you could become mad teaching your children to pray to jesus, it's mad to do this, your like teaching your child about the second Santa.  Santa 2.  

 

Jesus also gives instruction on how to beat the slave, jesus is a crow, he is a gypsy.

 

You got your child praying to a gypsy.

 

The gypsy Jesus dressed in white robes that go's around teaching how to beat slaves with a rod.

 

People are mad and for that they should get what they deserve for praying to a f-ing gypsy.

 

 

 

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