What triggers an awakening?

[Given To Fly]

On 7/28/2020 at 10:47 PM, 2020member said:

@Given To Fly

 

i’m totally open to reincarnation or the notion that we ‘volunteered’ to be here and live through this exact time. 
 

Thanks for raising that! 

 

yip, i've read many articles about spirituality and i remember one saying that the demons/dark filth are also aware of those who 'volunteered' to be here to bring light/awakening, even probably from birth, who are targeted individuals -- which is why so many TIs don't have a clue why they are targeted.

Edited July 30, 2020 by Given To Fly

[2020member]

20 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

 

yip, i've read many articles about spirituality and i remember one saying that the demons/dark filth are also aware of those who 'volunteered' to be here to bring light/awakening, even probably from birth, who are targeted individuals -- which is why so many TIs don't have a clue why they are targeted.

 

I saw an interview with David years ago where he was asked "how come you haven't been assassinated yet". He basically responded saying he was operating on a frequency where he was not fazed by them. It took me some years to figure that out, but now I know what he means. If you know your true purpose and you know exactly what you are fighting for, their bullshit is water of a ducks back. Ironically those of us who are awake... our biggest road blocks are the brain dead zombies that go along with said bullshit which then makes the fight doubly difficult. 

[Smokestack Lightnin']

Being a White, British, indigenous, heterosexual male living in London from 2007-2014 was my awakening. Getting arrested four times in Islington, once for writing a strong letter to the NatWest bank manager complaining about the appalling standard of English  written on a memo displayed in a branch in Archway in three different locations. (I was an English teacher.) NatWest, who are a subsidiary of RBS had Fred Goodwin at the helm and had just carried out the biggest 'bank job' in living history and here was this bank manager employed by them who couldn't even read or write while I was unemployed at the time.

RBS bank had to be bailed out with billions of pounds and here they were employing this guy who wrote a letter that would have been fine if you had stumbled upon a small bank in the middle of the Amazonian jungle written by the local manager. My letter to this moron was written in a sardonic, mocking tone but he deemed it to be racist and I spent 8 hours in a cell for that one. No charges in any of the arrests were ever made. No charges were ever brought in any case because no crimes had actually been committed.

 

In another case a Nigerian security guard from Sainsbury's said that I called him a Black African C*** when the police arrived after I told him to let a shoplifter go. (He was a well known homeless guy in the area and would have been on CCTV.) In both cases my crime was that I was a White indigenous native who could articulate better, speak sharper and make them feel foolish because English was their second language.   (18 hours for that one but admittedly it didn't help when I took the piss and laughed throughout the police interview at their stupidity.) The police can deal with drugged up psychos but it's smart arses who take the piss that they struggle with. That's when I knew something was very f***ed up.  Yassif Iqbal is the name of the guy who signed the memo.

Edited August 1, 2020 by Smokestack Lightnin'
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[2020member]

8 hours ago, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

Being a White, British, indigenous, heterosexual male living in London from 2007-2014 was my awakening. Getting arrested four times in Islington, once for writing a strong letter to the NatWest bank manager complaining about the appalling standard of English  written on a memo displayed in a branch in Archway in three different locations. (I was an English teacher.) NatWest, who are a subsidiary of RBS had Fred Goodwin at the helm and had just carried out the biggest 'bank job' in living history and here was this bank manager employed by them who couldn't even read or write while I was unemployed at the time.

RBS bank had to be bailed out with billions of pounds and here they were employing this guy who wrote a letter that would have been fine if you had stumbled upon a small bank in the middle of the Amazonian jungle written by the local manager. My letter to this moron was written in a sardonic, mocking tone but he deemed it to be racist and I spent 8 hours in a cell for that one. No charges in any of the arrests were ever made. No charges were ever brought in any case because no crimes had actually been committed.

 

In another case a Nigerian security guard from Sainsbury's said that I called him a Black African C*** when the police arrived after I told him to let a shoplifter go. (He was a well known homeless guy in the area and would have been on CCTV.) In both cases my crime was that I was a White indigenous native who could articulate better, speak sharper and make them feel foolish because English was their second language.   (18 hours for that one but admittedly it didn't help when I took the piss and laughed throughout the police interview at their stupidity.) The police can deal with drugged up psychos but it's smart arses who take the piss that they struggle with. That's when I knew something was very f***ed up.  Yassif Iqbal is the name of the guy who signed the memo.

As jon wedger would say “the police only go for low hanging fruit”

[karmaxxxx]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:52 AM, 2020member said:

If you don’t mind. Would you be able to expand on your ayahuasca experience? I ask because I’m extremely sensitive to any kind of intoxicant. If I have cannabis it’s enough to basically have me crawling on the floor crying out for god to save me. It’s a wormhole into how terrifyingly f*cked up this world is.  I’ve actually still not recovered from a cannabis hit I had two years ago. It physically moved me into a different reality. I lived through heaven, hell and everything in between from that joint. If I have ayahuasca I’m scared i’d never recover from that ‘high’. In your opinion do you think I would not benifit me? In that too much soul searching can be dangerous and cause irreparable damage. 

HI sorry for the delay in answering you, i could not honestly advise you on ayahuasca as its not for everyone. tread carefully on this one. if a joint has done that to you, i would advise stay clear. it was my path i was lead into it, my experience was the hardest of my entire life as i faced myself and all my add ons and demons. but i also saw how literally mad we have become.

how we are nothing more than ego driven automatic response units.

i was allowed to see all this and the pain hurt we push on to others, i was allowed to see other peoples reactions feelings and there pain but i would of never of learnt otherwise.

i was then shown with utter amazement how soft and gentle nature can be, and was enveloped in pure love the depth i have never experienced ever before or since.

i was shown how small i was and how huge i was, and that every action thought or deed has an impact on the universe we except it or not.

it was the most humbling experience Ive ever had, and there is no words to explain how you see every person as a fractal code all emanating pure light and how the strands interweave  with everyone we come in contact with hope Ive given you enough of an insight

[karmaxxxx]

On 7/29/2020 at 5:09 PM, Seeker said:

I think some of us lead lives which aren’t the same so your everyday person, maybe your upbringing or an event in your life made you begin to question things, and then you go down the rabbit hole. As for everyday people who live life fully locked in the matrix; get married, have kids, 9-5 job, watch tv etc, I think the only thing that can wake them up is vibrations/ frequencies or their intuition screaming at them to become curious and question things. The problem is is that so many people are so heavily brainwashed and dumbed down that they can’t recognise something is wrong even when it’s in their face, I’ve shown someone a video of bill gates saying he want some to reduce the worlds population with new vaccines, all the deliberate damage he caused with them, articles on how he funds geoengineering and all the problems with that, has shares in Monsanto and all the destruction their gmos cause etc. And they still think bill gates is a nice man about to save the world. When it’s right in front of their eyes, watching bill gates say he wants to basically kill us all and make us infertile, and they can’t figure out something isn’t right in all this, then do they have any hope? It’s breaking the conditioning and mind control that’s the big problem for people. TV is such a great mind control device because within 1 min of watching it, your brain waves change to alpha waves so you’re in a more suggestible state, that’s how millions of people can watch the news, and believe every single word of it without ever questioning it, because the brains being manipulated. Obviously with recent events more people are watching the news and getting programmed very deeply, I guess we can pray for them

bro we hear you all to well, it will take sorry to say some more of the populace to be destroyed as that's how its supposed to happen. before a huge push back occurs.

but they are inheriting some really bad destruction of there souls, every life that's forfeited. will be paid back in full.

every human will have there day.

there are some absolutely loathsome individuals dishing out all this. but they will rule for a time on this earth and there deeds will be paid back in the next. that i know.

every time they pull a stunt they are exposing themselves more and more, tic toc tic toc, they know there's limited time left henceforth why there now becoming wreck-less.

the great awaking will happen when human suffering has hit saturation point, and i honestly pray its sooner rather than later

[Seeker]

Just adding to this, there’s so many people on the cusp of waking up. Most people believe in what’s be considered a ‘conspiracy theory’ older people tend to recognise that the climate change agenda is a hoax, but don’t understand why, a lot of people know 9/11 was an inside job, thinking it was to steal resources from Iraq. We can talk on a level where people relate, explain why the media pushes climate change to people who know it’s a hoax but don’t know why, explain the deep reasons for 9/11. It’s the same people, same goal, globalisation, it’s so easy to recognise once you open your mind. We all already have and I feel like it’s almost a gift, we have been able to see through the lies easier than most people, now let’s help everyone else figure it out too. 

 

Starting with topics people understand and explaining the globalist agenda to those who are willing to listen will make a big difference. We don’t need to go all the way down the rabbit hole and I certainly don’t know how deep it goes, and probably never will, but triggering that awakening in as many people as possible is key, explain the big picture about what they already know and the pieces of the puzzle fall into place 

Edited August 2, 2020 by Seeker

[keii]

8 hours ago, Seeker said:

Just adding to this, there’s so many people on the cusp of waking up...

It's going both ways, for every one waking up, there's a thousand getting into deeper sleep, furthermore the pile of lies keeps getting bigger and more complicated every moment.

 

I'd say it's not a matter of being stupid or misinformed, not knowing something, it's all about deep feelings, particularly a feeling of safety. Subconsciously, people don't want to part with it no matter what. Let go of it, and even the "dumbest" person very quickly will become open and be able see what's going on. But the thing is, there's nothing one can do, you can't force someone, neither yourself to let go of that need for the sense of safety. It's all invisible mass trauma based mind control. This brute force method of telling people what they don't want to hear and hoping they would listen is not the way to go. Our pent up frustration, anger and so on only manifests more of the horrors we see. All you can do is focus on yourself, let go of the need to change others, heal your own traumas and then with a new perspective you might see problems and solutions completely differently and more clearly.

Edited August 2, 2020 by keii

[rideforever]

Recognizing something is wrong with your society is 100% not the same as spiritual awakening ... and these should not be in the same conversation or category, they have zero to do with each other.

 

The silly dream that without Government everything is just going to be a-okay, is patently ridiculous.

 

Here is a model of human consciousness:

 

2 Real Conscious : Spiritual world  (In the forehead)

1 Weird Conscious : Ego mind world (In front of the forehead)
0 Subconscious : Animal self (Solar Plexus centre)

Humans are 0: Subconscious animals and they are trying to evolve into 2, the Real Self.  This is an absolutely vast jump in consciousness, and they are doing very badly. 
Instead of making it to 2: what is happening to human beings ... is that their higher instruments (chakras) that should be in Real Conscious can't quite make it .. .and so those higher instruments work in a weird externalised way, leading to the Ego mind ... and the awful world that Ego creates.  In this weird world the energy that should be going into Real Consciousness is semi-activated in a backwards way round, leaking a lot and making lots of useless connections ... and that energy is being parasited also.

 

So that's the problem.

The extremely dangerous part of the problem is that the Ego conscious in its desperation to get to 2:  has started to destroy 0: The Subconscious substrata of life ... for instance by no longer recognizing man and woman.  Shortly after this happens the entire society will be destroyed.  The Ego is undoing the very foundations in its desperate search.

 

One kind of solution is "Culture", this is a reasonably healthy bridge from 0>1>2 ... it provides "higher ideas" for people into which they can channel their extra energy which wishes to move upwards.

 

The absolute solution is obviously not easy, as you can see from the humans flailing around in this world.

And that is transforming the energy that is orbiting around the Ego into the Real Self through Awakening.
Best not to fuck around if this is your goal, find a teacher and work hard, learn the practices and practice ... this is the only way, it is very difficult because the whole world is a mess.

 

One of the most important thing to remember is to protect and look after 0:Subconscious, the animal foundation inside you.  Live normally and healthily and contribute to the normal part of the society, the ground.  It is too easy to imagine you are going to rocket off into some "higher place" but if you allow the soil to be damaged either inside you or inside society ... death follows.

 

That extra energy that humans have that is not flowing into their Real Self is attracting dark beasts who wish to eat it all up.  The animals on this planet do not have this extra energy, they are only Subconscious, so the humans beings are a rather juicy loaded meal full of energy and in a confused state ... they are like fat gazelles who are walking around in a daze.
 

The more you can do to right your own ship, the more you will help society.

 

Edited August 2, 2020 by rideforever

[2020member]

20 hours ago, karmaxxxx said:

HI sorry for the delay in answering you, i could not honestly advise you on ayahuasca as its not for everyone. tread carefully on this one. if a joint has done that to you, i would advise stay clear. it was my path i was lead into it, my experience was the hardest of my entire life as i faced myself and all my add ons and demons. but i also saw how literally mad we have become.

how we are nothing more than ego driven automatic response units.

i was allowed to see all this and the pain hurt we push on to others, i was allowed to see other peoples reactions feelings and there pain but i would of never of learnt otherwise.

i was then shown with utter amazement how soft and gentle nature can be, and was enveloped in pure love the depth i have never experienced ever before or since.

i was shown how small i was and how huge i was, and that every action thought or deed has an impact on the universe we except it or not.

it was the most humbling experience Ive ever had, and there is no words to explain how you see every person as a fractal code all emanating pure light and how the strands interweave  with everyone we come in contact with hope Ive given you enough of an insight

 

Thank you for replying. It was as I thought/feared and I think i'll give it a miss unless I feel a massive calling and urge to have it. I'm not egotistical enough to think I won't see anything new from it, but I don't think right now is the best place for me, as i've had such crazy experience from a drug a lot lower down in the pecking order. 

 

It sounds like your were broken down and built back up. And had everything re-wired wiping all the bullshit you will have been spoon fed in school. I have a lot of admiration for you doing that. I bet it took an incredible amount of bravery to live through that experience and not totally freak out to the point were you were put in a nut house. 

[rideforever]

On 8/1/2020 at 9:17 AM, Smokestack Lightnin' said:

Being a White, British, indigenous, heterosexual male living in London

 

Why didn't/don't your people protect your country more ?

[Smokestack Lightnin']

5 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Why didn't/don't your people protect your country more ?

Because multiculturalism is a deliberate agenda to dilute the concept of nationality and kill off the nuclear family. What the people behind the corona virus fear the most is the White European citizens who have a military history and intelligence to counter any new world order. They fear the rise of another Hilter. Africans and Asians are easily dominated and more likely to acquiesce if they are handed small flats in council estates, welfare and free health care. The philosophy behind multiculturalism and transgender people is to create tension and chaos to divide people and get them angry with each other. Some simple souls may believe there is a philanthropic reasoning behind this unnatural and unprecedented act. Not so. Bombing people into submission is decidedly frowned upon now and politically incorrect. Fabian Society methodology is far more pleasing and acceptable and also easier on the consciousness of the less robust perpetrators.  This has all been planned for decades.     

[rideforever]

@Smokestack Lightnin' 
Are you dutch ?  Just looking at your flag.
Well anyway, I agree with your analysis ... but I just don't see any white people doing anything at all.  Nothing.  So I am waiting and wondering if they all died when I wasn't looking?

[Mr H]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:52 AM, 2020member said:

If you don’t mind. Would you be able to expand on your ayahuasca experience? I ask because I’m extremely sensitive to any kind of intoxicant. If I have cannabis it’s enough to basically have me crawling on the floor crying out for god to save me. It’s a wormhole into how terrifyingly f*cked up this world is.  I’ve actually still not recovered from a cannabis hit I had two years ago. It physically moved me into a different reality. I lived through heaven, hell and everything in between from that joint. If I have ayahuasca I’m scared i’d never recover from that ‘high’. In your opinion do you think I would not benifit me? In that too much soul searching can be dangerous and cause irreparable damage. 

 

I have done aya. From what you have described I would say definitely do not do aya. It is not something to do lightly  and leaves some psychologically disturbed for life, if you have a certain disposition.

 

IF you are considering going down this route you should use the sister plant Shamburi in your case before even considering aya, see how you react to that first.

[Mr H]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:52 AM, 2020member said:

If you don’t mind. Would you be able to expand on your ayahuasca experience? I ask because I’m extremely sensitive to any kind of intoxicant. If I have cannabis it’s enough to basically have me crawling on the floor crying out for god to save me. It’s a wormhole into how terrifyingly f*cked up this world is.  I’ve actually still not recovered from a cannabis hit I had two years ago. It physically moved me into a different reality. I lived through heaven, hell and everything in between from that joint. If I have ayahuasca I’m scared i’d never recover from that ‘high’. In your opinion do you think I would not benifit me? In that too much soul searching can be dangerous and cause irreparable damage. 

 

Also, people conceptualize enlightenment as being some extraordinary experience. Hence why some people go across the world to do aya, because it conforms with this conceptualization. Which creates the illusion that enlightenment is some miraculous state to be gained, or achieved

 

When the opposite is true. Enlightenment is the most plain and ordinary and effortless experience there is known to man. It is our primary experience (being aware of being aware) It is simply the recognition of your own being. It is available to everyone at every single moment, and does not require some extraordinary or expensive experience - if this is your motivation for going.

[sickofallthebollocks]

11 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Also, people conceptualize enlightenment as being some extraordinary experience. Hence why some people go across the world to do aya, because it conforms with this conceptualization. Which creates the illusion that enlightenment is some miraculous state to be gained, or achieved

 

When the opposite is true. Enlightenment is the most plain and ordinary and effortless experience there is known to man. It is our primary experience (being aware of being aware) It is simply the recognition of your own being. It is available to everyone at every single moment, and does not require some extraordinary or expensive experience - if this is your motivation for going.

Out of likes,  but -  for that post Mr H,  like very much.  Enlightenment is a choice. (IMO)


 

Edited August 3, 2020 by sickofallthebollocks
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[sickofallthebollocks]

7 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Why didn't/don't your people protect your country more ?

It's pretty depressing being in the UK at the moment, they seem fast asleep to what's going on, deeply hypnotised by the MSM, and wether or not they can go for a pint down the pub.

[Mr H]

I would describe it as everyone's natural tendency, is towards enlightenment (the recognition of your own being and thus the state of peace). I would also use the words peace and happiness interchangeably. Thus it could be said that everyone's natural tendency, their homeostasis, is towards "happiness". It's just that because we haven't recognized ourselves as to who we truly are, we seek happiness (enlightenment) in objects (states/relationships/money etc), because we think and feel as an object ourselves. Once this misunderstanding has been seen then it is possible to seek happiness in the only true place in which it resides, which is within ourselves.

 

If we check this out for ourselves, we can see that knowingly enlightened or not, everyone is seeking happiness (as defined above).

Edited August 3, 2020 by Mr H

[Mr H]

13 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Out of likes for that post Mr H, but like very much.  Enlightenment is a choice. (IMO)

 

We have to be careful when we speak of choice. There is choice but not chooser. Otherwise "we" would all choose to be happy 24/7!

[2020member]

@Mr H

 

Thanks for adding your experience to the mix and I totally agree with you. If i'm so susceptible to street level drugs, the last thing I need right now is to burn the candle and both ends and end up doing irreparable damage. 

 

My reasoning for taking 'aya' wouldn't have been to explore the wormhole of having an 'awakening' even further. For me.. as you rightly say, that is what we all naturally gravitate towards anyway, but this world is set up to pull us away from that gravitation as quickly as possible. 

 

My reasoning for taking it would be to find peace with a long term health condition I have and also find peace with childhood trauma and the ripple effects that causes on one's life. It's not necessary I do it and if i'm being honest I think time has run out on such recreational endeavours anyway. I personally think the matrix is all coming to a head now and it's getting to the point where we're all going to have to make some incredibly tough life choices. 

[HistoryIsComplex]

They lulled Europeans to sleep over decades by giving Europeans EVERY RIGHT IMAGINABLE. Good pay, good holidays, childcare money, free education, unemployment benefits, right to travel freely, total sexual freedom, the right to protest, freedom of expression, lots of entertainment, and so on an so forth.

 

That made people think "We really have it good here. We earn well. Our governments care about us. Our laws protect us. No need to keep the system in check here."

 

All Conmen pull this trick - make the victim comfortable, make the victim comfortable... then strike really hard.

 

The most absurd part is that when you show European MSM/News content to anyone in the Middle East or North Africa, they'll immediately tell you "This is just garbage. Puppet theatre for kids. This is not how the world works at all."

 

European MSM, for example, REFUSES to cover EU foreign policy - its actions in non-European territories - in any critical way.

 

And it has been that way for DECADES. In European MSM, its ALWAYS other "NON-DEMOCRATIC" countries/peoples/governments who are the miscreants. But European governments? Oh... they NEVER EVER do anything wrong.

 

It really is Puppet Theatre for Kids. But very few Europeans can see that.

 

[Mr H]

16 hours ago, 2020member said:

@Mr H

 

My reasoning for taking it would be to find peace with a long term health condition I have and also find peace with childhood trauma and the ripple effects that causes on one's life. It's not necessary I do it and if i'm being honest I think time has run out on such recreational endeavours anyway. I personally think the matrix is all coming to a head now and it's getting to the point where we're all going to have to make some incredibly tough life choices. 

 

Yes I understand. 

 

And everyone has their own path to walk.

 

But just from experience, I can tell you 100% that imperturbable peace, cannot be found in any drug, experience, state, meditation, class, course..........it is in the one place we never look, and sounds so incredibly cheesy, within. A lot of people don't like that because it's easier to pay someone and pass the responsibility over. To look within takes tremendous courage, but it is the true path of peace.

 

And that's not to denegrate in anyway, all the modalities out there, they have a place and a purpose - but it is not imperturbable peace.

[The Illuminator]

On 7/27/2020 at 7:03 PM, 2020member said:

I could have probably done this in a poll. But 'qualitative'   answers interest me more! 

 

I've already told my personal story in a prior post so i'm not looking to re-hash here. I'm more interested in what factors eventually cause someone to totally pull themselves out of the coma they are in and mentally break free from the matrix. 

 

In my experience the individual has usually been through so much trauma and soul searching, that they eventually wash up on someone work such as David's. Then it turns into an exhilarating race to find the truth, which never comes in the usual lineal closed book-style you get at school. It instead turns into a rabbit hole of sorts, where you find an anchor to stop you totally loosing your marbles. 

 

It could be God, religion, spirituality, yoga, fitness, diet, literature and/or many more which serves as safety net, once you learn the 'truth'.

 

What factors would you say triggers a total awakening? Or have you been lucky enough to have never known anything different (such as being the child of a 'conspiracy theorist'?) 

9/11 Started the process, 7/7 cemented it

[Smokestack Lightnin']

On 8/1/2020 at 7:07 PM, 2020member said:

As jon wedger would say “the police only go for low hanging fruit”

LOL...the joys of living in a multicultural society!

[Smokestack Lightnin']

On 8/3/2020 at 12:52 PM, rideforever said:

@Smokestack Lightnin' 
Are you dutch ?  Just looking at your flag.
Well anyway, I agree with your analysis ... but I just don't see any white people doing anything at all.  Nothing.  So I am waiting and wondering if they all died when I wasn't looking?

Hey there,

 

If there's any problem with the flag, I'm happy to remove it. All I ask is for some reasoned and constructive debate as to why you take issue....if you do?