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10 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Ok, in what way? evidence? proof of an agenda?

He charges people for an experience and somehow, everyone conveniently gets one. In some capacity that satisfies them. Until Grut comes down on his space ship to tell me "I am grut" then a flash in the sky is meaningless and unexplainable, wouldn't you agree? He's a conman and continues to be one. 

10 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

By all means elaborate on why you think this?

Sorry, I asked you to provide something he has been right on, I will not answer until you front said information. Lets not answer questions with questions. It would therefore appear you are seeking to avoid fronting proof. Plus, I'm not making the bold statements, I merely suggest there is no legitimate evidence to what you suggest. 

10 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Disclosure was very close in 2001. Look in to it.

Prove it. 

10 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Not offended by anyone at any point, not worth my time.

Cool. 😎👍

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4 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Sorry O posted so,etching a while a go about this. At the time I was clarifying what consultant or sock was on about.

4d and 5d mean different things depending on whether they’re spatial or quantum

Sorry dude, I just didn't understand the first sentence and put it down to autocorrect. 

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7 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:


its just the hall effect, stop injecting the word quantum in to everything it is quite literally meaningless.

Read what I posted. O know full well it’s the Hall effect. And on physics it’s known as the quantum Hall effect

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4 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:


They arent related to what you posted at all.

Neither is anything we are talking about, we are way off topic. Bomba is probably right to pull us up. Naughty, naughty! 🤣

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Just now, Bombadil said:

Read what I posted. O know full well it’s the Hall effect. And on physics it’s known as the quantum Hall effect

Its just the hall effect in physics as its derived from physics and is "production of a voltage difference across an electrical conductor that is transverse to an electric current in the conductor and to an applied magnetic field perpendicular to the current."

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1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

Its just the hall effect in physics as its derived from physics and is "production of a voltage difference across an electrical conductor that is transverse to an electric current in the conductor and to an applied magnetic field perpendicular to the current."

I understand this but it’s not the same thing

 

The quantum Hall effect has been the subject of several Nobel prizes and occurs in very thin conducting layers that are essentially 2D in nature

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Just now, Bombadil said:

I understand this but it’s not the same thing

 

The quantum Hall effect has been the subject of several Nobel prizes and occurs in very thin conducting layers that are essentially 2D in nature

the medium is irrelevant to the actual mechanism described.

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13 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

He charges people for an experience and somehow, everyone conveniently gets one. In some capacity that satisfies them. Until Grut comes down on his space ship to tell me "I am grut" then a flash in the sky is meaningless and unexplainable, wouldn't you agree? He's a conman and continues to be one. 


And you can do it for free anywhere you wish or do not wish, but until you try it, commenting on it is quite simply noise.
 

13 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Sorry, I asked you to provide something he has been right on, I will not answer until you front said information. Lets not answer questions with questions. It would therefore appear you are seeking to avoid fronting proof. Plus, I'm not making the bold statements, I merely suggest there is no legitimate evidence to what you suggest. 


You are the one stating he is a shill and a conman, I wanted evidence of that rather than what he speaks about. The things he says are provable or not independently. YOUR opinion on him being a shill is not searchable as far as I am aware?
 

13 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Prove it. 


OK, missile in to the pentagon was a direct message to people behind disclosure. I do hope people realise just how long we have been at odds with the people controlling things.

 

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4 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

the medium is irrelevant to the actual mechanism described.

The difference is that the mechanism has been produced in a completely different way. The Hall effect could not have been done in 2d before. It opens massive possibilities for development. If that’s you’re thing😁

 

Plus I didn’t coin the term quantum Hall effect.

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1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

And you can do it for free

So, show me where you can access his material (for free) to do this and I will have a go, posting my experience. Deal? 

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

You are the one stating he is a shill and a conman

Am I the only one? I think more than me on this forum alone would agree he's a fuckin shill. You're promoting him, the onus is on you, not me. 

3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

OK, missile in to the pentagon was a direct message to people behind disclosure.

Ok, how so and how do you know this? 

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Just now, Morpheus said:

So, show me where you can access his material (for free) to do this and I will have a go, posting my experience. Deal? 


I already said how to do it.
 

Just now, Morpheus said:

Am I the only one? I think more than me on this forum alone would agree he's a fuckin shill. You're promoting him, the onus is on you, not me. 

Millions believe the royal family are good. Many millions believe covid is real. etc. Consensus means absolutely nothing. I also am not promoting the guy at all :) He came up in conversation.
 

2 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Ok, how so and how do you know this? 


Look in to the disclosure in 2001 and who was speaking out. 

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5 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

The difference is that the mechanism has been produced in a completely different way. The Hall effect could not have been done in 2d before. It opens massive possibilities for development. If that’s you’re thing😁

 

Plus I didn’t coin the term quantum Hall effect.

 

6 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:


I already said how to do it.
 

Millions believe the royal family are good. Many millions believe covid is real. etc. Consensus means absolutely nothing. I also am not promoting the guy at all :) He came up in conversation.
 


Look in to the disclosure in 2001 and who was speaking out. 

I’ve read a book of greers a while ago. Tgecproblem for me is no one ever produces any evidence. Just credible witnesses

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1 minute ago, Bombadil said:

 

I’ve read a book of greers a while ago. Tgecproblem for me is no one ever produces any evidence. Just credible witnesses


Then by all means try out what I suggested above with some trusted people around you and get your own credible witnesses or discount it as horseshit entirely :)

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Just now, TheConsultant said:


Then by all means try out what I suggested above with some trust people around you and get your own credible witnesses or discount it as horseshit entirely :)

I’m open minded so will try at some stage. And I enjoyed his disclosure book anyway. My issue isn’t so much believing that the ufo thing in some way or another is real. It’s more the messenger. Doesn’t help that the vast majority is focused on the USA. (I’m aware there are 10’s of thousand in other countries). I’ve read a lot  and find the lesser know cases more credible.

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12 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

already said how to do it.

So I just look up to the stars and ask to be visited? Is that it? I'll try. 

13 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Millions believe the royal family are good. Many millions believe covid is real. etc. Consensus means absolutely nothing. I also am not promoting the guy at all :) He came up in conversation.

But it was yourself who brought him up. You have promoted him. 

14 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Look in to the disclosure in 2001 and who was speaking out. 

Been there and done that with Greer and Wilcock and that's how I know they're full of shit. I don't like this next guy either, but have a look at Jordan Sathers comments on Wilcock alone. He has no inside info and neither does Greer. He's full of shit. 

Do you have anything else I can look into apart from these two twats? Thanks. 👍

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8 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I’ve read a book of greers a while ago. Tgecproblem for me is no one ever produces any evidence. Just credible witnesses

Just witnesses you mean, where's the credibility? 

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2 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I’m open minded so will try at some stage. And I enjoyed his disclosure book anyway. My issue isn’t so much believing that the ufo thing in some way or another is real. It’s more the messenger. Doesn’t help that the vast majority is focused on the USA. (I’m aware there are 10’s of thousand in other countries). I’ve read a lot  and find the lesser know cases more credible.

Look in to the DC flyover. :)

I agree lesser known ones appear more credible though

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Just now, Morpheus said:

Just witnesses you mean, where's the credibility? 

I agree. It would seem in general, if you’re in law enforcement etc, you are a credible witness. You wouldn’t lie😂

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Just now, Bombadil said:

I’m not an expert at all.  This is how I’m understanding it so far. 

Nor am I except in my field of expertise of course. It appears to be the same mechanism derived in the same way in a different medium, but to be fair to me I am having three conversations in two threads at once with you, you and morpheus ha!

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3 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I’m open minded so will try at some stage. And I enjoyed his disclosure book anyway. My issue isn’t so much believing that the ufo thing in some way or another is real. It’s more the messenger. Doesn’t help that the vast majority is focused on the USA. (I’m aware there are 10’s of thousand in other countries). I’ve read a lot  and find the lesser know cases more credible.

I found Rich Hall's documentary into abductions in the UK more credible than any horseshit he's fronted. Whilst he doesn't 100% prove anything either, it was interesting that's for sure. 

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2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Look in to the DC flyover. :)

I agree lesser known ones appear more credible though

Read about it in the past. Nice little read for later me thinks. Been a few years 

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2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Nor am I except in my field of expertise of course. It appears to be the same mechanism derived in the same way in a different medium, but to be fair to me I am having three conversations in two threads at once with you, you and morpheus ha!

I think you’re most likely right. Two sides of the same coin!

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