Out of Place Artifacts (Ooparts)

[Macnamara]

26 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Literally loads of his stuff on YouTube. 
I find a lot of of it quite heavy going. Not Hancock but it depends how articulate the other authors are. Tried reading the full Vedic texts. Enjoyed what I read but a definable head frazzled

 

I read some indian mythology as I travelled around there and if i came near a place that was linked to mythology I would go there.

 

The stories are intimately linked with the landscape in the same way that scottish mythology is with the scottish landscape. I would love to reconstruct scottish myth within the context of the land to root the stories to place

[Bombadil]

10 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I read some indian mythology as I travelled around there and if i came near a place that was linked to mythology I would go there.

 

The stories are intimately linked with the landscape in the same way that scottish mythology is with the scottish landscape. I would love to reconstruct scottish myth within the context of the land to root the stories to place

Spent7 months travelling India and we had a similar mentality. We never had an exact plan but followowed the myths and advice of locals. Saw some real hidden gems not in the guide books. With wonderful people showing us the heritage proudly.

 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

The Antikythera Mechanism

 

The Antikythera mechanism, dated to aproximately 200 - 100 BC, has been described as the world's first computer and there is evidence, including among the accounts of Cicero, that it was not unique. The device was discovered in 1901, amongst other valuable objects from antiquity, within a shipwreck off the coast of the Greek island Antikythera. It was not until the 21st century that modern scanners were able to pentrate the device's erosion to glean its true craftsmanship.

 

The mechanism has interlocking gears of impressive ingenuity with an apparent instruction manual inscribed on the sides of the machine. It was capable of indicating the position of the sun, moon, lunar phases and even eclipses - cycles which can be complex and irregular. It is also thought to have had the ability to trace the paths of other planets including Venus and could show exactly how the sky would look for decades to come.

 

Its discovery points to the possibility that the ancients possessed far more advanced knowledge and technology than mainstream thought gives credit for.

 

 

 

[Nobby Noboddy]

[Mitochondrial Eve]

Whilst not necessarily about an "artifact", this Bright Insight video still has a place in this thread .

 

Jimmy has been in Egypt getting up close to some of the structures and shows the unbelievable precision with which stone blocks have been cut and formed together - so precise that not even a razorblade or hair could fit between them.

 

It is hard to explain how such accuracy was achieved in antiquity. Mainstream theories of the use of bronze and copper tools seem highly improbable and have been tested showing how the tools barely made a dent in either limestone or granite.

 

To cut, carve, move and place each of the millions of blocks and flooring stones making up the pyramids and other sites throughout Egypt was a colossal effort which surely could not have been achieved with such slow and primitive methods. A lost, ancient technology seems like a more plausible explanation than what the mainstream offers.

 

 

[Macnamara]

4 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

To cut, carve, move and place each of the millions of blocks and flooring stones making up the pyramids and other sites throughout Egypt was a colossal effort which surely could not have been achieved with such slow and primitive methods.

 

Their work with granite is phenomenal but you can see the tool marks on the limestone in that video which is much softer than granite and easier to work.

 

Here is a clip of a french mason cutting limestone quickly using axes and rasps:

 

 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

7 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

Their work with granite is phenomenal but you can see the tool marks on the limestone in that video which is much softer than granite and easier to work.

 

Here is a clip of a french mason cutting limestone quickly using axes and rasps:

 

 

 

Interesting video Mac - thank you.

 

I know you work with stone and wonder what your thoughts are on how the precision of the Egyptian structures was achieved - both with limestone but, more importantly, granite?

 

Somes of the comments from the Bright Insight video are from those claiming that they work with stone. Aside from the odd dissenting voice, the consensus is that the mainstream explanation is sorely lacking and there must have been the use of ancient techniques or technology now lost. Here are a selection of such comments.

 

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I've worked in construction even diamond drilling and sawing for 15 years and even with today's technology it's extremely difficult to obtain that level of precision and they seem to be able to do it with ease on a massive scale it's unbelievable to me.

 

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Have you been hit with those theories yet, that they used the sun and a lense like a magnifying glass to melt the stone into shape? After working with granite for 20 years, I heard it all, but its all bs. This is clear work of power tools on a scale we can't fathom, because our technology is based on a "pully" system.

 

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I've worked with Granite, Marble and many varieties of stone for over 27 years. I've cut and polished Granite, Marble with different techniques. It's not difficult to achieve such precision without using lasers. Yes! working with stone is labor intensive. You know as well as I do, working with stone is not a rushed process.

 

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I worked with stone for 4 years... We made pavement, stairs, walls etc. The most difficult thing to do was to connect two pieces on right angle by making a 45 degrees cut on each piece. And we are talking lengths of 30cm tops thickness 5cm max. Using a diamond saw. Even slightest mistake and two pieces don't connect 100%. Sure I could put more effort and time and make it 100% but the point was how much effort it takes with modern tools to connect two tiny surface areas which makes me just gasp when I see those razor thin connections on giant stone blocks... Its literally impossible. I never seen anybody pointing this out in Egypt. Like wtf that's impossible. Ugh this why I want to visit the place myself to see in person all these details then you can appreciate the level of difficulty or should I say impossibility.

 

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I worked in stonemasonry in my youth, and what i found was, when we had to renovate some 150 stone steps on the Albert Memorial London that weighed over a ton plus each, the first one to be moved took seven to eight men about 40 minuets... by the time we had moved twenty plus.. it took just two men, a couple of cut down scaffold tubes as rollers and sturdy bits of timber to shift them every ten minuets, so what i learned by that experience is, I'm sure the first stones laid in the construction of the pyramids was a labour intensive operation.. but i guarantee you, once it all became second nature, Mustafa and his mate were throwing them things up there on the weekend to get some over time in, same with cutting stone, and if you cant find tools, id look at the same reason why we cant find technology from ancient china.. it was all made from bamboo.. so i suggest.. maybe they used thin slabs of timber and as shown in the video sand as an abrasive, easy to make and mass produce.. is an idea but as good as any.

 

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I’m a 7th generation tile setter. I work with granite,limestone,marble etc and I can say I’m 100% positive all that stone work at Giza was not done with bronze tools!

 

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I have worked in massive stone fabrication for 36 years. (I'm retired now) I have operated a dimensional stone block quarry for 21 years. We quarry blocks up to 36 tonnes to be shipped to fabricators all over North America for further processing into slabs and large architectural details for various buildings (office, bank, government etc.) the precision required for the type of construction shown in the video and the material handling capacity it requires would stretch our current technology to (and in my opinion) beyond what we are capable of today. Especially considering the very tight time limits for completion. I can't tell you how they would have done it, but you are right, it is a technology lost in time. My hat is off to the people who produced and placed these blocks.

 

I am also aware of stone softening theories (I started a thread as such on the hacked forum which is now lost) and would like to know if you have any views?

[Macnamara]

On 11/26/2021 at 8:28 AM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

interesting video Mac - thank you.

 

what it shows is how fast a skilled worker can shape limestone especially if it is a soft kind of limestone

 

On 11/26/2021 at 8:28 AM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

I know you work with stone and wonder what your thoughts are on how the precision of the Egyptian structures was achieved - both with limestone but, more importantly, granite?

 

I dabble but not with granite although some of my ancestors did build many granite buildings in aberdeen and the north east.

 

On 11/26/2021 at 8:28 AM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Somes of the comments from the Bright Insight video are from those claiming that they work with stone. Aside from the odd dissenting voice, the consensus is that the mainstream explanation is sorely lacking and there must have been the use of ancient techniques or technology now lost. Here are a selection of such comments.

 

I think there are two things to bare in mind. First of all egypt was a country of alchemy which meant that their sacred buildings were being built as part of a magical process much like that french mason was building out of more than just a desire to earn his bread. It is a transcendent experience for them

 

Secondly a vital part of magic is will and we can't necessarily listen to modern workers who mostly use lifting gear and hydraulics and so on to do the work for them and who clock out at 5pm and collect a pay cheque at the end of the month and try and guage from them the level of WILL of our forebears and that is in no way meant to disparage those modern workers

 

It's just we are talking about next level will here that is geared not around making profit or even art (for arts sake) but instead we are talking about a people working with one mind towards the transformation of human consciousness. Next level motivation, next level will power, next level vision

Edited November 27, 2021 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

@15 minutes they explore the idea of exploiting fault lines in rock using fire:

 

 

[alexa]

Stunning 'Good Shepherd' ring that depicts a young Jesus holding a sheep is found on two shipwrecks that sank in Israel's ancient port of Caesarea

The ring, which likely belonged to a woman, was found on 1,700-year-old shipwreck in Israel's in the ancient port of Caesarea. The ring's gemstone shows an image of a young Jesus.

 

[Truthspoon]

Interesting that Jesus seems to have short hair... I saw Jesus in a dream (only the back of his head) and he had short hair...not a crew cut or anything, nor short back and sides, just kind of a normal slightly choppy hair cut.

 

 

[Bombadil]

Couple of links for light reading!

 

https://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/ooparts-found-coal-0010767

 

https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/swiss-ring-watch-003312

[DaleP]

On 10/30/2021 at 11:32 PM, DaleP said:

 

I don't know if this the correct thread but it sorts of goes with it imo.

 

A dragon ball that manifested from another dimension.

As you probably suspect, this world and another dimension overlaps. All is here but we can't see it due to difference of frequency. The above yellow sphere is very similar to that of green sphere which manifested from allegedly another dimension which had a line in the middle and not a dip like that but protruding bit. Now, the glass ball was scientifically examined and they concluded that despite it is composed of what seems like an ordinary material e.g. glass, measurement says that it cannot be created by our existing technology. When you look at a glass marble, it looks spherical but they are not perfect. This green glass ball had a nano-meter difference/inaccuracy and we do not have a technology to make such perfect sphere and who would have a need for such? Now take a look at this video below. My first thought was.... mnn they've rigged it before everyone else gathered in the cave. A bit of pyrotec to burst a casing so that glass/metal objects falls to the ground. But I am on a mission to learn about materialisation/dematerialisation as it is drying me crazy....

 

This is a footage of puja conducted in a cave in Krabi, Thailand.

As the monks recite mantra, sparks appears and objects falls down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYCrZ9clcrQ

 

It is said that a spirit that decided to live in the cave gifts these objects which seems to have power of various kind e.g. luck, protection etc. The cave that produces such occurrence has to be a cave that is not visited by tourists. I guess that means no unclean vibration could be left there and attendee must abstain from alcohol & meat for about 10 days. This was the case with Sai Baba too if you went to see him. This made sense WHY Islam & Judaism forbits pork that's because the 'god' they worship does not like pork. Some spirits are ok with blood, alcohol.....likes of demonic kind and others don't so this makes sense to me.

 

Here are some images of objects.

 

There are two kind of materialisation and it's nothing to do with your psychic abilities. It's to do with other entities.

 

The first kind is materialisation like the above. The second kind is another ex-human spirits that teleport everyday object from another place to another place. Typically small object but money, gold etc of valuable is not unheard of....

I know this all sounds really out there but I know one of my healing teacher has witnessed it with Sai Baba and he was healed. I watched another testimony from other who could produce the second type of materialisation. So time will tell but it just shows that other dimension is real.

 

EDIT: These people who conduct this puja are experienced in working in a dreamworld and bringing back stuff from there i.e. materialisation. If you need a solution, no human will teach you because most are just as blind. Let's just say, the level these people are working on is that....if there is a difficult question that needs to be answered, they will go out of the body where they are not restricted to time and space, and return with an answer immediately. wow.

 

So I've found the name of these object.

https://www.leklaithai.com/our-leklay/

https://www.healing-crystals-for-you.com/mystical-leklai.html

https://www.oldamulet.com/02137-leklai-amulet-lp-somporn-59-types-takud-watcharatad-large-6cm-white-be2560

 

What do you think?

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by DaleP

[peter]

On 12/23/2021 at 5:38 PM, alexa said:

Stunning 'Good Shepherd' ring that depicts a young Jesus holding a sheep is found on two shipwrecks that sank in Israel's ancient port of Caesarea

The ring, which likely belonged to a woman, was found on 1,700-year-old shipwreck in Israel's in the ancient port of Caesarea. The ring's gemstone shows an image of a young Jesus.

 

How do you know that this is a likeness of Jesus ,young or otherwise,I can think of a good many other explanations of who this may or may not be,just asking

[alexa]

1 hour ago, peter said:

How do you know that this is a likeness of Jesus ,young or otherwise,I can think of a good many other explanations of who this may or may not be,just asking

 

We don't know really, we just have to take there word for it as per.

[peter]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

We don't know really, we just have to take there word for it as per.

Why do you have to take their word for it ,you never take government institutions at face value eg NASA etc ,but you will take the word of someone you don't know as gospel (pun intended)

[alexa]

2 minutes ago, peter said:

Why do you have to take their word for it ,you never take government institutions at face value eg NASA etc ,but you will take the word of someone you don't know as gospel (pun intended)

 

I suppose it's the same reason you take the globe as gospel.

[peter]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I suppose it's the same reason you take the globe as gospel.

No, I just look at evidence for and against then make a conclusion ,that's the difference

[peter]

On 11/13/2021 at 4:46 AM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Its discovery points to the possibility that the ancients possessed far more advanced knowledge and technology than mainstream thought gives credit for

Absolutely, I believe there have been numerous advanced civilizations through the ages that have been wiped away either  by their own hand or natural disasters just to have the next inline to emerge to take their rightful place in the sun so to speak .About 10 years ago I was lucky enough to see Klaus Donner and Jim Mars speak on these very subjects

[alexa]

On 3/4/2022 at 10:50 AM, peter said:

No, I just look at evidence for and against then make a conclusion ,that's the difference

 

And 9/10 it's always the wrong one 

[peter]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

 

And 9/10 it's always the wrong one 

That's great coming from someone that can't think outside the covers of a book written by an English king which is in actual fact your prission

[alexa]

2 hours ago, peter said:

That's great coming from someone that can't think outside the covers of a book written by an English king which is in actual fact your prission

 

What's this got to do with coming to the wrong conclusion ?

[peter]

well if you can only only think within the confines of your book any conclusion you come to is ham strung by the rules of your club ,you may extrapolate from there as to what it has to do with wrong conclusions

[Mitochondrial Eve]

This is a curious tale of a mysterious goblet found in the aftermath of the Tunguska event in 1908.

 

It was discovered in 1962 by a Russian nuclear physicist, Kirill Kabanov, who was investigating the site. He was 60 years old at the time. He used to drink from the vessel and went on to live until he was 102. He passed the artifact on to his great grandson, Igor Ivanovich Podukhevich, explaining that it had "come from above" and instructing him on how to charge water using the vessel. 

 

Podukhevich quickly forgot about the object and packed it away in his garage. However in 2006, his daughter Ilona, when she was aged 17, incurred life changing injuries in a road accident with the prospect that, if she survived, she would be disabled for the rest of her life. Podukhevic remembered the goblet and, after discharging Ilona home, tried his great grandfather's water preparations to see if they may help her. She reportedly recovered within 3 weeks. There are also reports from visitors of the family that they too have experienced miraculous healing from the object.

 

After Ilona's unexpected recovery, the chalice caught the attention of scientists and was tested. They found that it comprised of 90% silicon with isotopes that do not occur naturally on earth. The markings are also of unknown origin as there is apparently no known type of equipment that could leave these marks.

 

It was also found that, when water is poured into the goblet, half of the elements of the periodic table spontaneously appear within the water in what one professor has dubbed "an unheard of cold fusion".

 

http://www.human-resonance.org/Chalice_of_Life.pdf

 

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Mitochondrial Eve

[DaleP]

20 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

This is a curious tale of a mysterious goblet found in the aftermath of the Tunguska event in 1908.

 

It was discovered in 1962 by a Russian nuclear physicist, Kirill Kabanov, who was investigating the site. He was 60 years old at the time. He used to drink from the vessel and went on to live until he was 102. He passed the artifact on to his great grandson, Igor Ivanovich Podukhevich, explaining that it had "come from above" and instructing him on how to charge water using the vessel. 

 

Podukhevich quickly forgot about the object and packed it away in his garage. However in 2006, his daughter Ilona, when she was aged 17, incurred life changing injuries in a road accident with the prospect that, if she survived, she would be disabled for the rest of her life. Podukhevic remembered the goblet and, after discharging Ilona home, tried his great grandfather's water preparations to see if they may help her. She reportedly recovered within 3 weeks. There are also reports from visitors of the family that they too have experienced miraculous healing from the object.

 

After Ilona's unexpected recovery, the chalice caught the attention of scientists and was tested. They found that it comprised of 90% silicon with isotopes that do not occur naturally on earth. The markings are also of unknown origin as there is apparently no known type of equipment that could leave these marks.

 

It was also found that, when water is poured into the goblet, half of the elements of the periodic table spontaneously appear within the water in what one professor has dubbed "an unheard of cold fusion".

 

http://www.human-resonance.org/Chalice_of_Life.pdf

 

 

That's really interesting. So a half of the periodit table can appear from simple liquid like water which is just H2O. That's something out of nothing....or I should call it alchemy like lead turned into gold which is impossible from our ssssscience! lol

 

I reckon I can make this water

It will work as per homeopathic method.