allymisfit Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Wow....it's supposed to help boost serotonin levels and aid relaxation and sleep. Did you take it late evening / before sleep ? Did you look into quantities and contra-interactions with anything else you're taking ? l haven't heard of Lions Mane.....l'll take a look, thanks Totally lol! Yup, even had a booklet on it. I wasn't taking anything at the time, just caffeine (4 cups the most) Honestly, I'm a nightmare lol. I can't take SSRI's because they send me manic. I always wondered why the hell they've never tried me on a mood stabiliser as I'm sure it could so a lot more than tricyclics. I am very unstable with everything. I need a whole life makeover lol. I tried the Lion's Mane after having the top nerves of my hand damaged due to pre frostbite. It helped a lot, still not 100 %, but better than it was :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Stop taking depressants, like television narratives. Avoid peoples whose minds are so filled with depressants they need to bash the non-depressants down just to feel happy. Find people who are anti-depressents. People who dont depress you... or should that be oppress you? I once heard that before you should consider any diagnosis of depression, even your own diagnosis, you should first consider whether the people you interact with are arseholes toward you. Im convinced psychology is a socialogists are a socialogical disease that needs to be eradicated. Youve heard them say "we arent psychiatrists" but if you look at their documentary utterances, you will find lots of places where they make referrals to psychiatrists. Now the thing about psychiatrists is that they are not just mentally ill but criminally insane. Take electro-convulsive shock therapy for example. They use this "therapy" to make people forget things that in their considered opinion the people they deem to have no legal rights whatsoever, dont need to remember those things. Did you see me robbing that old ladies handbag? You dont need to remember that! Gzzzzzt! Do you see how the mechanism works? Its an industry of torture and trickery and concealled from view by censorship from way before Independent Fact Checkers is a suppressed truth about what happenned to all the Christians. No not the happy clappy obedient will agree to any injustice, just shut down our church "Christians" but the original ones who believed in angels and saints praying to god and speaking from the heavens. Well whats that all about? Seems a very bizarre belief to someone living on planet psychological dictatorship by way of mainstream television? Well those people were carted off into "hospitals" deemed to be mentally unfit by people so expert on the human mind that they couldnt even tell me the first thing about why I used the NOP instruction in the 8086 assembler I designed on line 387 and that whole program was just a teensy weensy little part of something from my mind and believe me its not possible that anyone could be more expert on a mind than the person having the experience. Hearing voices from the heavens? Do you believe the heavens are actually hearing your thoughts? The truth has been erased Im afraid. It is not the god of the dead true christians worship, it is the god of the living and we dont need radio or television or even internet to communicate with one another. The anti-christians need that shit just to keep the truth about our history erased. You think you dont have it in you to be anything more than those actors and actresses you see on the news every night or in your reality shows and soap operas. Those people are fake. All you see at best is perhaps a very good shallow appearance but the real human being is covered up by the best actors. As for the realest human being you know. Its none of the people on tv, its none of the people who consume it. The realest human being there is, is you! You can speak to heaven, you can hear from heaven, but all the corporations want is for you to believe thats a load of rubbish and keep consuming their diet of war, terror, prejusdism and hate speech while accusing everyone but them of the very wrongs they commit every day you dont even notice. Their system is collapsing because they've been found out. Now they will all be dressing like jews and saying "dont holocaust me" but the reality is, theyve just advocated for the tattooing of everyone in Britain by way of their Covid-19 api. They are not the jews in the sense of the people the holocaust is being committed against. They are the people carrying out extreme authoritarian human livestock management like theres no tommorrow. Take away the surveillance apparatus, the censorship and the propaganda saturation, do you know what you have? Free speech in a world where the visibly guily have only silence or violence to react with. Psychology wasnt a thing except amongst the rich in the 80s. History as its described today is not an accurate representation of how history actually was. Theres certain bits of history they cant just erase but the things they magnify and minify presents a very false picture of the reality as it truly was. No one had ever heard of the European Charted on Human Rights before the surveillance state. They decried violations of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights going on in places where lesser surveillance states were being practiced like the Eastern Bloc. The way history is misrepresented its almost as if we were politically united with the EU when we were in a the common market treaty and the EU political thing was unthinkable. The various motivations and figures of the miners strike even in the websites dedicated to such memories dont quite relate the reality as it was for the people who were there. Certain quisling type leaders are pedastooled while certain more respected characters are cast into the shadows. Was it Orwell that wrote that Who controls the present, controls the past. The real history is very mangled up and the Psychology Society has had a sometimes glittering sometimes very shady career since they changed their name from the Esoteric Society to improve their image after they were notably in association with the Eugenicists at the turn of the 1900s. Their name was mud back then since they had been involved in the involuntary degradation of what became recognised as human rights. In the past 120 years, the last time psychology was as big thing as it is today was in Germany from 1933 to 1945 which is where Sigmund Freud hails from. In 1938 just before the western world had the where with all to declare war on the diabolical practices of Naziism, Sigmund "Fraud" jumped ship to Britain saying "Im not a nazi anymore", but look into the experiments he was doing on children and ask for yourself whether or not thats true given your understanding of the word Nazi. You ought to avoid psychology and people who employ that kind of language. At the best they are very misled. At the worst they are deliberately misleading. The mind is a faculty of the soul. A living invisible aspect of a human being. Any psychologists who become aware of this who cannot tell you how they lost their entire lifes fortune in a place called Hades, have no business telling anyone about the mind as they are not exactly reformed characters. 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Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Steph said: Stop taking depressants, like television narratives. Avoid peoples whose minds are so filled with depressants they need to bash the non-depressants down just to feel happy. Find people who are anti-depressents. People who dont depress you... or should that be oppress you? Not all problems are caused by the environment. Chemical imbalances do happen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Honestly, I'm a nightmare lol. I can't take SSRI's because they send me manic. I always wondered why the hell they've never tried me on a mood stabiliser as I'm sure it could so a lot more than tricyclics. Next time you get to talk with a 'Professional', maybe ask them exactly that...? BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Next time you get to talk with a 'Professional', maybe ask them exactly that...? BC I have tried. They always talk over me. They're right, I'm wrong.. Blaah. Ironically I've found the mental health "professionals" to be the exact opposite of compassionate and understanding. But maybe there's a better way than taking mood stabilisers .. There must be.. Actually, freedom would do just that! :) the system has created mental illness for sure. I've been looking up acupuncture and it looks very promising! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Not all problems are caused by the environment. Chemical imbalances do happen.. i know. I read the Count of Monte Cristo. That young girl had the same ailment as her grandfather. A chemical imbalance. Alexander Dumas appeared to me from behind a book case and told me all I need to know about chemical imbalances. Maybe it was the Hashish pipe he seems to heartily recommend. Mark Twain doesn't even mention recreational drugs in his much shorter work: The System of Dr Tarr and Professor Fether. Dont mention Bethlehem Manor. They don't like it when you speak of Bedlam! Professor Rosenhan to Psychiatric Ward 13! We have some patients for you. Psychologists who believe their science isn't scientifically proven fraud. Dr Rosenhan! Would the patient in ward 666, please check the cuff links. His brain may depend on fully informed consent to avoid getting brain damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, allymisfit said: I have tried. They always talk over me. They're right, I'm wrong.. Blaah. Ironically I've found the mental health "professionals" to be the exact opposite of compassionate and understanding. Exactly what l found. Years ago l was up against big problems and needed a little assistance. An NHS Psychiatrist gave me tablets that l tried but made me feel truly awful. l explained to him l'd stopped taking them after a few days and asked for different ones, when l saw him next. He told me that if l didn't take the tablets he'd prescribed he would not continue treating me. l told him to 'Fuck Off' - literally :O) Made me feel much better for a while...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Exactly what l found. Years ago l was up against big problems and needed a little assistance. An NHS Psychiatrist gave me tablets that l tried but made me feel truly awful. l explained to him l'd stopped taking them after a few days and asked for different ones, when l saw him next. He told me that if l didn't take the tablets he'd prescribed he would not continue treating me. l told him to 'Fuck Off' - literally :O) Made me feel much better for a while...LOL Haha!! I may need to take note of that for next time ;) Another amazing help are cats..ooh those amazing cute grey alien looking furballs! Anyway, that's a a whole new topic haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, allymisfit said: Haha!! I may need to take note of that for next time ;) Another amazing help are cats..ooh those amazing cute grey alien looking furballs! Anyway, that's a a whole new topic haha! l didn't see him again..and didn't want to anyway. l have 2 lil fur ball cats There is a thread somewhere to do with pets / cats. l posted a photo of one of mine with an exemption badge BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, Basket Case said: l didn't see him again..and didn't want to anyway. l have 2 lil fur ball cats There is a thread somewhere to do with pets / cats. l posted a photo of one of mine with an exemption badge BC He sounded like a bad egg :( Ooh ace! Thanks, I'll go check that out. Thanks BC :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooey Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Basket Case said: Not all problems are caused by the environment. Chemical imbalances do happen.. sorry but this carries so little weight against the previous statement, even if simple. they (psychologists and psychiatrists dont get themselves and are basically like medics plugging people back up for the battlefield in a dire fight). they can do some things to help (occasionally) but they are not in a position to stop the fight Edited October 17, 2020 by rooey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I never trusted doctors. When I get a prescription I always look them up and read up on it before taking anything. Saved my life more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Humungus said: I never trusted doctors. When I get a prescription I always look them up and read up on it before taking anything. Saved my life more than once. Over the years I've been prescribed things that I either shouldn't have or shouldn't be taken with Meds already being taken. Some doctors / consultants are really fucking dangerously lax.. As you said - always read up for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 My son almost died in a car accident. He was a passenger. His neck was broken and he received multiple breaks in other bones and lacerations. He was in a neck brace for many months. He likely would have been paralyzed if I hadn't prevented hospital staff moving him after hospital admission. ( I was a nurse for several years in the eighties) I placed rolled towels either side of his head and neck to prevent him moving whilst the results from Xrays came back. Staff however were trying to move him!!! Results came back and he had a fractured C4 and fractured T1. He also had a broken clavicle, multiple ribs, fractured scapula, broken wrist and his hair had been scalped on one side during the accident. However, four months after the accident he developed Post Traumatic Stress. He became suicidal. He couldn`t be in the house alone and would call me home from work. He wished he hadn`t survived. I could help his body heal but I didn`t know what to do re this new problem. We went to the doctor... he was prescribed a drug called Paxil. It seemed to work for a few months and then it became worse, the suicidal tendencies returned with a vengeance ... I contacted a man who had recently killed his son due to the medication he was on...he had a website to alert people of the dangers of such meds. he replied and told me that he couldn`t advocate any other medication but that he suggested my son get on one that was easier to come off of. he was advocating no meds if possible. We went back to the doctor - my son was given Celexa instead of Paxil. Our new family doctor was a little more in tune with less meds approach. Celexa seemed to work but it took a while, about a year...once my son was feeling better we decided that the best outcome was to not be on any meds at all. Over the next 2 years he gradually came off of Celexa. He still has anxiety and my once very mellow son now has a short fuse compared to pre accident. But he functions and is medication free. He survived. To look at him you wouldn`t know he had been in such an accident. He is now married and has two children. To say his mental health is perfect would be a lie... as his mother I know he struggles with his anxiety still and cant deal with pressure... but the meds he was on would have killed him...of that I am certain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkat Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I've been following this thread with interest. I have been on SSRI's for 20 years and have tried to come off them a few times without any success. The withdrawal was severe and disabling and indescribably horrible. It wasn't a matter of enduring it until the worst side effects were over, as after 6 weeks I was begging to be put back on them as I had no function to live at all. It felt as if my brain was having electric shocks all the time and I had severe anxiety and shaking. Even coming off them slowly, caused my function in life to crash. I have to say that in the beginning they helped my enormously as my anxiety was disabling. When I was prescribed these tablets I was never given a test to see if it was 'a chemical imbalance' and I was prescribed on symptoms only. Psychiatric services where I live are useless and have never helped me. I think anyone coming off antidepressants has to be very careful and honest with themselves, in that living with withdrawal 24/7 for months can do even more harm than good. However, that does not mean I wouldn't try again. Life and how I react to it plays a big part in my illness and if chemical imbalance is part of the illness then I don't know how I can deal with that. I do feel that nature and nurture play a big part of why people end up taking these things as how we think and how we react to the things that we have no control over make us sensitive to meltdown. If you go to a doctor with anxiety or depression their first action is to prescribe tablets whereas I think their first action would be to determine what (if any) kind of therapy may be useful. Mindfulness/CBT/ therapy is the only help available that the Psychiatric service offers to most folk. It may work for some but for me it has been a total waste of time. Talking to others with the same illness has been far more useful. All this stuff happening in the world just now doesn't help! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Psychiatry is a pseudo-scientific cult of deception that reached its peak in 1930 when people who considered themself sane attained the power to drill holes into the skulls of people they considered insane. There has always been a healthy discourse and encouragement of people investigating the nature of their own mind, but the hedonistic practices of 'psychology' have run parallel against the various risings in peasant revolts. The Nazis didnt just appear in 1933 with the election of Adolf Hitler. Prior to state approval of what became the holocaust, there were shady medical practices that had become increasingly visible since the 1850s. The modern practice employs a glossy coating and soft approach but buried underneath the rug are victims too terrified to speak. This might sound depressing but you would have to be without reason or conscience to see humanity in its wholeness and not be somewhat unhappy about it. The drugs cant change that horrible reality but they can distract you from it, making you blind to the ways such depressing parts of human nature affect your life. Your life is very important, not least of all to yourself. Beware of the potions. Learn to live without them. If this is misery, find company. Those who are the cause of misery like to keep those they put in misery apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, kitkat said: I've been following this thread with interest. I have been on SSRI's for 20 years and have tried to come off them a few times without any success. The withdrawal was severe and disabling and indescribably horrible. It wasn't a matter of enduring it until the worst side effects were over, as after 6 weeks I was begging to be put back on them as I had no function to live at all. It felt as if my brain was having electric shocks all the time and I had severe anxiety and shaking. Even coming off them slowly, caused my function in life to crash. I have to say that in the beginning they helped my enormously as my anxiety was disabling. When I was prescribed these tablets I was never given a test to see if it was 'a chemical imbalance' and I was prescribed on symptoms only. Psychiatric services where I live are useless and have never helped me. I think anyone coming off antidepressants has to be very careful and honest with themselves, in that living with withdrawal 24/7 for months can do even more harm than good. However, that does not mean I wouldn't try again. Life and how I react to it plays a big part in my illness and if chemical imbalance is part of the illness then I don't know how I can deal with that. I do feel that nature and nurture play a big part of why people end up taking these things as how we think and how we react to the things that we have no control over make us sensitive to meltdown. If you go to a doctor with anxiety or depression their first action is to prescribe tablets whereas I think their first action would be to determine what (if any) kind of therapy may be useful. Mindfulness/CBT/ therapy is the only help available that the Psychiatric service offers to most folk. It may work for some but for me it has been a total waste of time. Talking to others with the same illness has been far more useful. All this stuff happening in the world just now doesn't help! I really do feel for you. I am going through nasty withdrawal just now. Those brain zaps are the worst, as is the nausea and sickness. I can't take it anymore :'( Thank you for sharing that with us, it's a horrible debilitating thing. I'm at the edge of begging to be put back on them. I've never felt so out of balance with everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, Steph said: Psychiatry is a pseudo-scientific cult of deception that reached its peak in 1930 when people who considered themself sane attained the power to drill holes into the skulls of people they considered insane. There has always been a healthy discourse and encouragement of people investigating the nature of their own mind, but the hedonistic practices of 'psychology' have run parallel against the various risings in peasant revolts. The Nazis didnt just appear in 1933 with the election of Adolf Hitler. Prior to state approval of what became the holocaust, there were shady medical practices that had become increasingly visible since the 1850s. The modern practice employs a glossy coating and soft approach but buried underneath the rug are victims too terrified to speak. This might sound depressing but you would have to be without reason or conscience to see humanity in its wholeness and not be somewhat unhappy about it. The drugs cant change that horrible reality but they can distract you from it, making you blind to the ways such depressing parts of human nature affect your life. Your life is very important, not least of all to yourself. Beware of the potions. Learn to live without them. If this is misery, find company. Those who are the cause of misery like to keep those they put in misery apart. It's interesting as I have never found any psychiatric or psychological therapies to actually work, even now when I am willing more than ever to make a difference to my life. Such a waste of time in all honesty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Your mind is a faculty of the soul, the essence of your life which is not your physical body with a brain, but the thing which has formed this flesh since the spark of its conception. Your mind existed before your brain was formed in accords with a plan it acquired from a mystery that can be known when you awaken to the fact we life forms are telepathic! Last night I was discussing with a child and a woman how flawed the views of those who knew only of the terrestrial world were in their thinking that the mind was a brain. In our perception, if the brain theory was true, then my brain was inside the childs brain whose brain was inside the womans brain whose brain was inside my brain and all our brains were inside each others brains having a conversation in isolated houses without so much as a radio signal or an internet connection between us relating to one another quite clearly that the mainstream belief system which imagines that there are no heavens by which we all communicate through are hugely flawed in their beliefs. I believed from an early age that god could hear my thoughts but I had no reason to believe it except that this is what I was told by people who didnt so much relate the whole truth, telling me about a god of the dead I would find out about once I was dead if I lived a good and obedient life on earth being obedient to the will of a god I knew nothing about who seemed to have the exact same notion of right and wrong of the constantly shifting concept of right and wrong given to me by those who spoke of their god. Having "voices in my head which arent there" for the mere tuning into the heavens which I am aware of and speak and hear through while I am here alive with flesh on my bones is to me a wonderful and amazing thing that is so despised by the seekers of power over the earth that they create massive barriers on people from cradle to grave in order to maintain power over the earth which require constant wars, treatements for diseases which were never there that the treatments actually cause, mass propaganda to shore up a false belief system and false accusations against the beliefs in truth, not to mention the censorship of any conversations they can find. This "voices in your head" thing is called a disorder. A mind which is not disordered believes it is a brain and needs to take chemicals when the experts on flesh shown to them on TV tells them and puts TV celebrities first rather than their circle of friends or their fellow angels in the heavens. The psychologists, in an alternative universe are infact the mentally ill people, but in our world, the mind is not a brain, but a spiritual thing. When we think, our thoughts emanate to the heavens. These emanations can be picked up on by those not too dazzle eyed by the television terror and phenomenal fun and excitation. We dont need an expensive television network to broadcast not a television tuner to pick things up. These are gifts of the god which created both heaven and earth long before manmade things like transistor radios which have over time attempted to delete the realities of what a human being is. You are deluded if you think you can achieve a state of having voices in your head but you are deceived if you think such a thing is some kind of disease. Your thoughts emit to the minds of others and Im not saying all others are atuned or all those atuned are neccessarily nice people, but this is just a normal thing to people who both hear and speak in a place where the supposed brains cannot be made of flesh. A truth about the nature of reality that those seeking absolute power by information censorship and false information saturation require to be a truth that no one knows. All of this to describe how I dont just "believe" the shrinks are madmen due to the historic things I can demonstrate from history books, but I "know" because it is an intrinsic part of my reality and the reality of my fellow "witches on broomsticks" and "angels with wings" which allow our minds to fly within the heavens they say is just a hallucination. My road to here might be described as being a child raised in a blindfold in a world that told me that there were people who claimed to have eyes who were delusional and should be ignored and even laughed at. When the blindfold fell off and I realised I had a fifth sense that was being exploited by those who made me wear a blindfold from the cradle, I myself was being castagated by those who knew fine well the blindfolded reality I thought was all there was, was a lie. I was suddenly to blame for finding out what they deliberated to hide. Such a beautiful truth made ugly by those who require everyone to be blind in order to have power in a world where the people are kept in a manmade deception. This is depressing, but its not a chemical imbalance but there are certainly caustic elements in the vessel that contains our souls. What do the brainologists know of the kingdom of heaven being close at hand? They persercute the saints! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkat Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, allymisfit said: I'm at the edge of begging to be put back on them. I've never felt so out of balance with everything. You do what you have to do to have quality of life and I don't think anyone could criticise you for what works for you. Given the times we live in, it may make it harder to stay off the tablets as the anxiety is drip fed into your mind on a daily basis. However, staying off them for the length of time you have already stayed off them, may mean you are nearly through the worst and your 'head' will become clearer and more functional. What to do...? In my case my head was never coherent anyway and the plus side of being on antidepressants, meant I could think clearer and have control over my reactions. The desensitisation was a blessing. Looking at the world through a goldfish bowl was preferable to looking at the world and seeing it how it was. Sometimes, you just have to get out of your 'mind' in order to live in the 'real world'. Steph made a good point which i've read in other places too, (let me paraphrase..) in that there would be something very wrong with you if you could remain sane in such a profoundly sick world. The thing with antidepressants is that the void of depression is replaced with a thick skin of non feeling. It's a safety net of sorts. I'm not sure coming off them after all this time would reverse any damage they have already done to me. I'm also doubtful if my mind would ever stay coalesced if I managed to come off them. I wouldn't advocate them to anyone and I know others who have been on for a short period of time, where they have really helped and had no withdrawal when they stopped. Others too have been on them and hated what it did to them. There is no right answer really. I do agree with Steph though that "Psychiatry is a pseudo-scientific cult of deception". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) On 7/26/2020 at 1:23 PM, Mattmmmjuly said: Hi all have not posted on these forums for quite some time but thought I would with this topic! Because I thought there have to be lots of ‘awake’ people on here. Anyway, I was on the antidepressant Sertraline for some time but woke up one day 8 weeks ago and stopped, decided there and then to quit. i had experienced negative effects from the medication, bad dreams almost every night, lack of interest in a lot of things, horrendously bad ‘sweet tooth’, low attention span etc. The first two weeks I didn’t see much difference, the three weeks after I felt pretty low and miserable and almost considered taking them again. But I persevered and now the past 3 weeks I have felt the best I have in several years and almost feel a clarity of thinking about the world and about my own self. what are your thoughts on these type of meds? I now feel very untrusting of them. Now I’ve switched to a vegetarian diet, am more aware of myself and things, or am least moving in that direction. I am on that drug now and it is horrible. I have been on these horrible things (SSRIs) for 10 years. I have been waking up with my brain feeling swollen. I am hoping this is from the medication and I am not developing some horrible brain tumor. The one that helped me most was citalopram but stopped working and I had sexual problems with them and reduced appetite. Sertraline is what I'm on now and it is awful but like others if I come off of it I can't function. Edited October 28, 2020 by Fluke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 mod note; Thread de-railer has been removed. All off topic posts removed. . Quiting Antidepressants being the topic. BC :O) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkat Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 1:23 PM, Mattmmmjuly said: Hi all have not posted on these forums for quite some time but thought I would with this topic! Because I thought there have to be lots of ‘awake’ people on here. Anyway, I was on the antidepressant Sertraline for some time but woke up one day 8 weeks ago and stopped, decided there and then to quit. i had experienced negative effects from the medication, bad dreams almost every night, lack of interest in a lot of things, horrendously bad ‘sweet tooth’, low attention span etc. The first two weeks I didn’t see much difference, the three weeks after I felt pretty low and miserable and almost considered taking them again. But I persevered and now the past 3 weeks I have felt the best I have in several years and almost feel a clarity of thinking about the world and about my own self. what are your thoughts on these type of meds? I now feel very untrusting of them. Now I’ve switched to a vegetarian diet, am more aware of myself and things, or am least moving in that direction. What's the update on your journey with quitting? Would be really interested to know :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, kitkat said: What's the update on your journey with quitting? Would be really interested to know :) Hey Kitkat, I'm not the OP, but going through withdrawal. It is a rough ride, I won't lie. Sometimes you won't feel yourself, but that's okay and completely normal. Make sure you taper off them to avoid withdrawal from hell.. Emotionally it's hard at the beginning, but look after yourself as much as you can. Physically can be just as debilitating such as nausea, vomiting, brain zaps, fatigue. Funnily, I have found good old Cola to do the trick in easing these symptoms greatly. This has provided me so much relief, which seems odd lol. Once you've rode the storm for a bit, it starts to get easier. I'm finding now that the good days are starting to return. It's been a week since I came off the tablets, so I think I'm over the worst. This is my personal account, I know it differs from person to person, but I hope this helps prepare you. Might be worth staying off work for the first week (blame it on Covid, you'll get two weeks lol) Tell the people you care most about that you'll be going through withdrawal. They'll be able to support you and understand if you go through a rough patch. It can be tempting to go back, but hold on. Once you break through, you're free again and you'll feel so much better overall. Lastly, I emailed my local chinese doctor to ask about treatment for withdrawal and overall depression. He highly recommended acupuncture, DDS massage (no idea what that is..) and herbal medicine tea as treatment options. Sorry for this long message lol. I hope it helps. Would be great to hear how OP is getting on :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkat Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 hours ago, allymisfit said: Hey Kitkat, I'm not the OP, but going through withdrawal. It is a rough ride, I won't lie. Sometimes you won't feel yourself, but that's okay and completely normal. Make sure you taper off them to avoid withdrawal from hell.. Emotionally it's hard at the beginning, but look after yourself as much as you can. Physically can be just as debilitating such as nausea, vomiting, brain zaps, fatigue. Funnily, I have found good old Cola to do the trick in easing these symptoms greatly. This has provided me so much relief, which seems odd lol. Once you've rode the storm for a bit, it starts to get easier. I'm finding now that the good days are starting to return. It's been a week since I came off the tablets, so I think I'm over the worst. This is my personal account, I know it differs from person to person, but I hope this helps prepare you. Might be worth staying off work for the first week (blame it on Covid, you'll get two weeks lol) Tell the people you care most about that you'll be going through withdrawal. They'll be able to support you and understand if you go through a rough patch. It can be tempting to go back, but hold on. Once you break through, you're free again and you'll feel so much better overall. Lastly, I emailed my local chinese doctor to ask about treatment for withdrawal and overall depression. He highly recommended acupuncture, DDS massage (no idea what that is..) and herbal medicine tea as treatment options. Sorry for this long message lol. I hope it helps. Would be great to hear how OP is getting on :D Real glad to know you are coping despite the horrible withdrawal. No idea what DDS massage is either! Good luck with your journey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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