Covid-19 Tests

[DarianF]

On 6/27/2021 at 4:19 AM, elongated1 said:

 

Yeah I identify myself as having a permanent asymptomatic Covid....no need to vaccine me. lol

 

"Complete live viruses are necessary for transmission, not the fragments identified by PCR. Prospective routine testing of reference and culture specimens and their relationship to symptoms, signs and patient co-factors should be used to define the reliability of PCR for assessing infectious potential. Those with high cycle threshold are unlikely to have infectious potential." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33270107/

[DarianF]

FDA reverses itself: rejects COVID antibody test results; insanity reigns

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/06/29/fda-reverses-itself-rejects-covid-antibody-test-results-insanity-reigns/

 

@Mitochondrial Eve

[Mitochondrial Eve]

Another FOI response - this time from Belfast Health and Social Care Trust - confirming PCR cycle thresholds being run to 40 or 45.

 

The letter also admits that only 2 of the Trust's Covid deaths were due to the disease alone without the patients having any known co-morbidities. Those who died with Covid mentioned on their death certificate had an average age of 79.

 

[CosmoGenesis]

On 7/9/2021 at 7:05 PM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Another FOI response - this time from Belfast Health and Social Care Trust - confirming PCR cycle thresholds being run to 40 or 45.

 

The letter also admits that only 2 of the Trust's Covid deaths were due to the disease alone without the patients having any known co-morbidities. Those who died with Covid mentioned on their death certificate had an average age of 79.

 

 

Has anyone collated the data gained from FOI requests for every hospital in the UK?

 

I've been through what do they knows website and come across around 5 different NHS bodies say there were only around 2 or 3 deaths. 

What would be the actual death from covid only stats for the whole country?

 

Around 50?

 

Lmao

[DarianF]

Just a thought I've been having lately. Let's just say you 'tested positive' for 'Covid' from one of their stupid PCR tests or whatever the fk they use. And let's say they they force isolated you.

 

What they are essentially saying is "you have Sars Cov 2, therefore we are forcibly removing your freedom on every level."

 

Okay, fine. They are making a very specific claim- i.e. that you have a specific virus in your body, for which you need to be removed from society.

 

BUT if that's the claim they have made, and they cannot prove it... legally, you should be able to completely fuck them over. If you can prove the test they used never actually isolated the virus they claim, then theoretically you should be able to sue / charge them for the following:

 

- False imprisonment / deprivation of liberty without warrent

- False arrest

- Loss of income

- Defamation

 

I mean there are probably 20 things you could add to that list.

 

Jesus there's gotta be a few honest lawyers out there who are willing to rip these bastards a new arsehole. I mean for fuck sake, it's an open and shut case. They are literally destroying someone's life and income based on a test that doesn't even isolate a virus they are claiming you have.

 

Seems like a no brainer to me. Shit.

[The Andernovian]

https://mologic.co.uk/mologic-to-become-a-social-enterprise-after-acquisition-by-social-impact-funders-and-investors/

 

Bought by SSoros and Melinda gates

Edited July 22, 2021 by The Andernovian

[elongated1]

On 7/19/2021 at 4:52 PM, DarianF said:

Jesus there's gotta be a few honest lawyers out there who are willing to rip these bastards a new arsehole.

 

The thing is though, lawyers are generally very busy.

Plenty of cases about even without Covid.

So they don't know the facts like we do. It is us who need to bring these information to their table and alert them.

Trust me, I have been there.

 

[DarianF]

13 hours ago, elongated1 said:

 

The thing is though, lawyers are generally very busy.

Plenty of cases about even without Covid.

So they don't know the facts like we do. It is us who need to bring these information to their table and alert them.

Trust me, I have been there.

 

 

It only takes one good lawyer to win a case, and set the precedent for everyone else.

[elongated1]

23 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

It only takes one good lawyer to win a case, and set the precedent for everyone else.

 

PPI part 2. LOL

 

[elongated1]

So I have multiple bruises all the time now which is distressing.

But mainly concentrated on my legs and not on my torso then I had an aha moment.

Being it summer that I am walking around my legs exposed. It's possible that people have been discarding their mask on the floor everywhere for the past 1.5 years meant that graphene nanoparticles must also be everywhere on the ground....If dusts are naturally blown away by the winds, it will probably cling to my legs as a particle which can get into your skin just like the nanoparticle laced gel to delivery nano into your skin..... This would explain why I don't have it on my torso. It's just my theory and time will tell though. By this, come winter when the skin is covered up it won't be so bad. It's probably not wise to sit on the ground as it would get into your groin area.

Also, better to wear a pair of boots so that it gives a coverage of protection. Throw away your socks ....if you wash them with other clothes it might cling onto it......garrrrh. This is all possible.

Graphene particles must be floating like dusts in confined spaces like on the tube, train too and you breath in. But I know you would probably say, so how come I don't get bruises even though I have my legs exposed...... *sigh* I don't have all the answers. This is fucking sick man.

 

Another thought is this, if people in restaurants, pubs, cafe are all wearing mask and serving it, it's quite possible that you would injest it and overtime it will accumulate..... Another reason to stop going to these places.

 

Edited July 24, 2021 by elongated1

[elongated1]

On 7/19/2021 at 4:52 PM, DarianF said:

If you can prove the test they used never actually isolated the virus they claim

Or even better, refer to the video Simon has posted. If they are chucking all into the black bin bags how can they say they've tested positive when in fact test wasn't even checked.

 

I like your thinking and it should be explored.

It would apply to many that had to pay for expensive prison called hotel too.

I'm sure they'd like to get their money back if this is a scam.

 

May be we should start a website that we are going to challenge so and so collectively like PPI and see if people are interested. Wedding has been cancelled as well. It's a fraud. HA HA HA.

Edited July 24, 2021 by elongated1

[elongated1]

Now...second thoughts Darian....

The gubbermint might turn around to say you paid for the hotel you fool.

The point we need to check is to see if there is a law to say something about 14 days quarantine? If it's not in the law i.e. just a guideline, then there could be a problem. But in case of self-isolation at home...could possibly work.

[Lazuli]

“After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only”

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

[DarianF]

Great work, @Lazuli re: the test withdrawal. @Mitochondrial Eve this seems like massive news.

 

FDA Announces That CDC’s PCR Test FAILED Review, Will Have Emergency Use Authorization REVOKED

https://www.newswars.com/fda-announces-that-cdcs-pcr-test-failed-review-will-have-emergency-use-authorization-revoked/

 

Not enough people talking about this.

[DarianF]

Medical Martial Law Expanding as CDC Admits PCR Tests Invalid

Guest host Owen Shroyer breaks down the growing medical tyranny takeover as the CDC admits the PCR tests can't determine the difference between Covid and the Flu.

Video: https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=60ff3bca1d7995125e3cf0b8

 

@Mitochondrial Eve @Lazuli

[Mikheil]

3 hours ago, DarianF said:

Great work, @Lazuli re: the test withdrawal. @Mitochondrial Eve this seems like massive news.

 

FDA Announces That CDC’s PCR Test FAILED Review, Will Have Emergency Use Authorization REVOKED

https://www.newswars.com/fda-announces-that-cdcs-pcr-test-failed-review-will-have-emergency-use-authorization-revoked/

 

Not enough people talking about this.

Do you seriously believe that this will make any difference at all?

 

If you do, you are living in cloud-cuckoo land!

[Daithi]

12 hours ago, Lazuli said:

“After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only”

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

 

My clicking through of the CDC links indicates that the SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR test is merely being replaced with another RT-PCR test that additionally tests for influenza A and B viruses (allegedly)

 

Isn't this just swapping out a test for one genome sequence for a new test that will cover three genome sequences?

 

It doesn't seem to be the CDC admitting that RT-PCR is not fit for purpose.

[DarianF]

8 hours ago, Mikheil said:

Do you seriously believe that this will make any difference at all?

 

If you do, you are living in cloud-cuckoo land!

 

Might as well just cut my balls off now and express post them to Melinda and Bill.

[DarianF]

The new COVID squeeze play, hustle, con

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/07/27/the-new-covid-squeeze-play-hustle-con/

[DarianF]

CDC/FDA confess: they had no virus when they concocted the test for the virus

Jon Rappoport | July 29, 2021

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/07/29/cdc-fda-confess-they-had-no-virus-when-they-concocted-the-test-for-the-virus/

 

TAG (PCR): https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/pcr/

 

@Mitochondrial Eve @Basket Case – Another good post from JR.

[Apotheosis]

 

An RT-PCR test used as a diagnostic tool is, at the end of the day, an estimate of the probability that the person being tested is infected with the virus being tested for. Without producing a reliable estimate of this probability, the test is effectively meaningless. It's this or it is nothing at all. But the following are incontrovertible facts:

1. The interpretation of any RT-PCR test depends on already knowing the infection rate in the test population. Therefore RT-PCR tests cannot themselves be used to estimate this rate, or in other words, to estimate the number of COVID-19 cases in a population. This would be a logical fallacy known as "begging the question". Yet this is precisely the test being used to come up with the number of COVID-19 cases.
2. The interpretation of any RT-PCR test requires knowing the specificity and sensitivity of the test, that is to say, the rates of false positives and false negatives. These have to be empirically estimated from the numbers of positive and negative test results, respectively, in sample populations of non-infected and infected people. There is absolutely no other way to obtain these figures. Having such samples depends on knowing that they are indeed non-infected and infected, which is to say, possessing a "gold standard", a testable set of conditions that tell us with complete certainty that someone is infected or not. But it is stated in the scientific literature that no such gold standard exists for SARS-CoV-2. RT-PCR tests for SARS-CoV-2 are therefore of unknown accuracy and are incapable of interpretation.
3. While we don't know the actual accuracy of these tests, we do know this for certain: RT-PCR primers lose specificity every time they are heated with each cycle, and so, regardless of the specificity of the test, increasing the upper threshold for a "positive" result is going to significantly increase the rate of false positives, to the point that the results would become meaningless at the kind of 40+ cycles commonly being employed in SARS-CoV-2 assays.
4. Numbers of "cases" and their rates are incommensurable between countries unless there is an international standard being used by all of them that defines precisely what a "case" is in terms of diagnostic tests and a set of universal parameters. Without it, comparisons of figures between countries are apples and oranges and generally nonsensical.  As far as I'm aware, no such standard exists. 

But the entire COVID-19 narrative as it exists depends on these tests being meaningful. Yet they are not. They are demonstrably and inarguably meaningless.

 

Telling me I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist in this case is like telling me I'm not a phrenologist. Actually, it's worse, since phrenology is just false whereas we're dealing with literal logical bunkum here which no number of PhDs and technical jargon can magic away.

[DarianF]

1 hour ago, Apotheosis said:

 

An RT-PCR test used as a diagnostic tool is, at the end of the day, an estimate of the probability that the person being tested is infected with the virus being tested for. Without producing a reliable estimate of this probability, the test is effectively meaningless. It's this or it is nothing at all. But the following are incontrovertible facts:

1. The interpretation of any RT-PCR test depends on already knowing the infection rate in the test population. Therefore RT-PCR tests cannot themselves be used to estimate this rate, or in other words, to estimate the number of COVID-19 cases in a population. This would be a logical fallacy known as "begging the question". Yet this is precisely the test being used to come up with the number of COVID-19 cases.
2. The interpretation of any RT-PCR test requires knowing the specificity and sensitivity of the test, that is to say, the rates of false positives and false negatives. These have to be empirically estimated from the numbers of positive and negative test results, respectively, in sample populations of non-infected and infected people. There is absolutely no other way to obtain these figures. Having such samples depends on knowing that they are indeed non-infected and infected, which is to say, possessing a "gold standard", a testable set of conditions that tell us with complete certainty that someone is infected or not. But it is stated in the scientific literature that no such gold standard exists for SARS-CoV-2. RT-PCR tests for SARS-CoV-2 are therefore of unknown accuracy and are incapable of interpretation.
3. While we don't know the actual accuracy of these tests, we do know this for certain: RT-PCR primers lose specificity every time they are heated with each cycle, and so, regardless of the specificity of the test, increasing the upper threshold for a "positive" result is going to significantly increase the rate of false positives, to the point that the results would become meaningless at the kind of 40+ cycles commonly being employed in SARS-CoV-2 assays.
4. Numbers of "cases" and their rates are incommensurable between countries unless there is an international standard being used by all of them that defines precisely what a "case" is in terms of diagnostic tests and a set of universal parameters. Without it, comparisons of figures between countries are apples and oranges and generally nonsensical.  As far as I'm aware, no such standard exists. 

But the entire COVID-19 narrative as it exists depends on these tests being meaningful. Yet they are not. They are demonstrably and inarguably meaningless.

 

Telling me I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist in this case is like telling me I'm not a phrenologist. Actually, it's worse, since phrenology is just false whereas we're dealing with literal logical bunkum here which no number of PhDs and technical jargon can magic away.

 

 

 

[Useyournous]

I've read that home food intolerence tests are a waste of money because they test for the presence of Immunoglobulin G and that you get unreliable results because all healthy humans have this, and tests results will vary with what you have eaten during the day.

 

Yet, this Immunoglobulin G is what they look for in the convid nnnn19 immunity test. So how does it become so reliable for this test? Amazing! 

[DarianF]

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Premier Daniel Andrews told reporters on Thursday that the virus was discovered in Wangaratta, some 250km from Melbourne. “The Wangaratta sewage test has pinged,” he said. “Firstly positive, then it went negative, now it’s gone positive again. “We have some reason to believe that there is Covid either in that community or has been in that community.”

 

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/regional-victoria-joins-melbourne-in-lockdown-after-sewage-testing-reveals-covid19-in-states-northeast/news-story/2b498b6be2e57c8deb29ef07a9d119db

 

If this kind of bullshit doesn't wake people up to this ridiculous fraud, nothing will.

[DarianF]

2 minutes ago, Useyournous said:

I've read that home food intolerence tests are a waste of money because they test for the presence of Immunoglobulin G and that you get unreliable results because all healthy humans have this, and tests results will vary with what you have eaten during the day.

 

Yet, this Immunoglobulin G is what they look for in the convid nnnn19 immunity test. So how does it become so reliable for this test? Amazing! 

 

Remove the media completely from society for one whole month. There would be no more Covid.