Face masks and your excuse

[BlueSky]

^^^This is from general advice. NHS GP's different rules I'm not sure.

Edited August 6, 2020 by BlueSky

[shadowmoon]

I asked my elderly dad what he will do if accosted , as he refuses to wear one.

He said he will scream and run away from the masked ones shouting "social distance please." to confound them

[MR-E]

My Lockdown Encounter.

upon hearing I would not be able to Vist my father as i often need to do of late for inspiration  discussing my concerns etc or when im in need of guidance/ advice  comfort reassurance  to be told I couldnt now do that because i was not allowed to enter "would never stop me". upon being asked to leave I politely refused their request & informed them that I would leave when i choose to do so .When i asked what possible harm could come from my visiting my father or to any of the other residents.

I was informed it was for my safety that they were concerned .about.  I laughed pointing out i was alone stood in an empty graveyard  by the GRAVE of my father &  nothing & no one will ever come between us ....After 2hrs longer ,than i would normally spend i left....

 

Mask/ shop encounters. 

to many to list   in fact I am now visting many stores/ banks etc not because i need to but because i feel compelled too. engaging with as many people as possible at first just shaking my head or tutting whilst walking past to NOW speaking out be it talking out loud to myself or what ever. loud enough for people to hear my views  .

 for anyone i encounter not wearing the muzzle I congratulate them on their intelligence  & for standing up for what they believe.(not very many at present)

many are  wearing for fear & threat of being fined  & not because they believe in a virus .I am hopefully when they see others standing up & speaking out more will follow.

 I will never wear the muzzle or be forced into doing so that is my god given right & no one or no thing will ever change that...

 

R.I.P DAD love & miss You always.       keep strong people we have truth on our side

[shadowmoon]

2 minutes ago, MR-E said:

My Lockdown Encounter.

upon hearing I would not be able to Vist my father as i often need to do of late for inspiration  discussing my concerns etc or when im in need of guidance/ advice  comfort reassurance  to be told I couldnt now do that because i was not allowed to enter "would never stop me". upon being asked to leave I politely refused their request & informed them that I would leave when i choose to do so .When i asked what possible harm could come from my visiting my father or to any of the other residents.

I was informed it was for my safety that they were concerned .about.  I laughed pointing out i was alone stood in an empty graveyard  by the GRAVE of my father &  nothing & no one will ever come between us ....After 2hrs longer ,than i would normally spend i left....

 

Mask/ shop encounters. 

to many to list   in fact I am now visting many stores/ banks etc not because i need to but because i feel compelled too. engaging with as many people as possible at first just shaking my head or tutting whilst walking past to NOW speaking out be it talking out loud to myself or what ever. loud enough for people to hear my views  .

 for anyone i encounter not wearing the muzzle I congratulate them on their intelligence  & for standing up for what they believe.(not very many at present)

many are  wearing for fear & threat of being fined  & not because they believe in a virus .I am hopefully when they see others standing up & speaking out more will follow.

 I will never wear the muzzle or be forced into doing so that is my god given right & no one or no thing will ever change that...

 

R.I.P DAD love & miss You always.       keep strong people we have truth on our side

 

Good on you for standing your ground where too many cower away.

[Grumpy Owl]

So apart from today (as I worked from home) for the last two weeks now I have been travelling to and from work on buses with no face mask/covering.

 

As I mentioned in another thread here, I downloaded and printed off the 'exemption card' provided on the Network West Midlands website.

 

As I board the bus, I just show this card to the driver, and then tap my travel card on the reader. Not one driver has said anything to me about this, most in fact either nod, give a thumbs up or just say 'thanks'.

 

Although to be fair, the buses I catch are still practically empty, but not a single other passenger has ever confronted or said anything to me about not wearing a face covering.

 

(Seems most people won't actually say or do anything, but would rather just whine on bus operators social media pages)

 

Despite what was claimed here in the West Midlands a few weeks ago, none of the buses I have travelled on have been stopped by Safer Travel officers, so I have not seen anybody challenged 'officially' and forcibly removed from a vehicle for not 'complying' with this 'mandatory requirement'.

 

In the event that my bus is boarded by inspectors, it is my belief that all I need to do is show this Exemption Card, and there is nothing more that they can do. This card essentially renders the authorities powerless. It is my 'get out of jail free' card. Look at the specific wording:

 

Am I actually exempt? Well, no not really. Do I feel guilty about doing this? Admittedly the first couple of times I was a bit nervous, as some of the drivers will have seen me wearing a face covering previously (yes, I did foolishly comply for a few weeks). But no, I don't feel guilty, as I'm standing up for my beliefs:

• There is no 'killer' virus
• Why masks now? I travelled on buses throughout the worst of the 'pandemic' without needing to
• This is psychological warfare being waged on the people
• I no longer wish to 'acquiesce' to this bullshit

"Threats of fines" and all that, are just that: 'threats'. Shopkeepers and bus/train drivers have no power to enforce these 'rules' and certainly have no power to fine anyone.

 

I've been into a couple of local shops by me without a face covering, and no-one has said a word. Small independent shopkeepers certainly don't want the aggro, they're probably more concerned about shoplifters to be honest. And again, maybe its just the area where I live, but I haven't witnessed any other shoppers berating others for not wearing their face covering. I think its another 'social media propaganda trick' where people share such posts. Like that one video of the guy at the train station. Probably faked or staged for all I know. But it ends up going 'viral' ('scuse the pun), and that's the intention.

 

The police have better things to do I'm sure, than hang around shops and bus stations hassling and fining people for not wearing masks. Like, catching burglars, rapists and murderers, and looking for nasty posts on Twitter.

 

I say it again, this is all psychological warfare, designed to get the people policing themselves.

 

Play them at their own game, check if your local authority has such exemption cards available to download or print off. Get a 'hidden disabilities' lanyard, whatever you need to do.

 

And remember, you only need to wear a face covering/mask "if you are unable to do so".

 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

Now I’ve had time to relax about it all.. my answer if anyone asks why I’m not wearing a face mask is ‘because I’m educated’

[shabbirss]

dont know if this would work...what happens if you say you have asthma ? and maybe carry an inhaler

[Lady Baynham]

No one has ever asked me.I did get a hidden disabilities card ,no one has ever asked to see it.

I do sing Grace Jones "  Slave to the rhythm" whilst in shops with muzzlers.

[Someone2630]

I see no reason for an excuse. If shops insist on muzzles - SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE! Boycott ANY place where muzzles are being enforced. Let the silly cunts go bankrupt.

[HeartSpirit]

19 minutes ago, Someone2630 said:

I see no reason for an excuse. If shops insist on muzzles - SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE! Boycott ANY place where muzzles are being enforced. Let the silly cunts go bankrupt.

The trouble is when ALL shops require masks, where do you shop then, especially when online shopping isn’t available? This is exactly the situation I’m in. 

[Someone2630]

Where are you? Australia I guess

[Brad the lad]

First of all you have to be true to yourself. Wearing a mask will create anxiety for EVERYONE. The only difference is it will cause it more for some than others.

This is because the entire act of wearing one is very unhuman and against everything natural.

Therefore EVERYONE is excempt due to the anxiety it causes.

If you are telling the truth then it cannot be a lie. This makes the conviction and dedication to NOT wearing one much more passionate and convincing because it's TRUE!

 

AS HUMAN BEINGS WE WILL ALL BE SUBJECTED TO ANXIETY AND ARE THEREFORE EXCEMPT....END OF FOR ME!

[HeartSpirit]

1 hour ago, Someone2630 said:

Where are you? Australia I guess

No only Spain but rules are strict, fines high and they just take the money straight out of your bank. 

[Someone2630]

40 minutes ago, HeartSpirit said:

No only Spain but rules are strict, fines high and they just take the money straight out of your bank. 

I'm sure you will vote for the same again when elections come around.

[HeartSpirit]

1 minute ago, Someone2630 said:

I'm sure you will vote for the same again when elections come around.

Why on earth would you assume that? In fact I’ve only voted once in the past 40 years, and that was in UK about 1998 and it was for the party recommending flying yogis!

[Grumpy Owl]

Here in the UK (things might be different elsewhere) as I understand things:

 

YOU DO NOT NEED AN EXCUSE

 

Simply carry on as normal, without wearing a face covering.

 

If anyone ever questions you, or challenges you, you have an 'exemption'. That is all. As per the Government's own 'guidelines'.

 

The only people who have the power to arrest you, or fine you, for not wearing a face covering 'without a reasonable excuse', are the police.

 

Shop owners, shop workers, bus drivers, train conductors etc etc may ask you if you have a face covering or why you don't wear one, but they have NO power to enforce any rules or guidelines if you simply inform them that you are 'exempt'. Show them some kind of exemption card or 'hidden disabilities' lanyard if you have one.

 

They cannot refuse you entry or service otherwise, or they potentially fall foul of anti-discrimination legislation, as per the Equalities Act 2010.

 

From my own experience, conformists are not willing to challenge people in public, these "Karens" prefer to just whine about people 'not wearing masks' on social media.

[oddsnsods]

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, oddsnsods said:

 

 

"Compliance with the hygiene regulations is now also checked from the air in Spain. Intimidation, threats and psychological pressure now seem to have made their way into warfare against one's own people."

 

And those that have been warning about this for years were called crazy. Wake up, volk!

 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Here in the UK (things might be different elsewhere) as I understand things:

 

YOU DO NOT NEED AN EXCUSE

 

Simply carry on as normal, without wearing a face covering.

 

If anyone ever questions you, or challenges you, you have an 'exemption'. That is all. As per the Government's own 'guidelines'.

 

The only people who have the power to arrest you, or fine you, for not wearing a face covering 'without a reasonable excuse', are the police.

 

Shop owners, shop workers, bus drivers, train conductors etc etc may ask you if you have a face covering or why you don't wear one, but they have NO power to enforce any rules or guidelines if you simply inform them that you are 'exempt'. Show them some kind of exemption card or 'hidden disabilities' lanyard if you have one.

 

They cannot refuse you entry or service otherwise, or they potentially fall foul of anti-discrimination legislation, as per the Equalities Act 2010.

 

From my own experience, conformists are not willing to challenge people in public, these "Karens" prefer to just whine about people 'not wearing masks' on social media.

Interesting thought is the anti discrimination legislation and equalities act are also not law (like the coronavirus act) they are legislation and an act which requires consent to then become law... so technically, they don’t have to adhere to those either as we don’t with wearing a mask?