Mikhail Liebestein Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Not sure how a $500k payment between two individuals can give Randy Andy any protection? https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/jeffrey-epstein-paid-accuser-virginia-roberts-giuffre-500k-in-2009-deal/amp/ Though in all honesty it would need a Mossad style air freight container operation to get him to the US for trial now. I can't see the UK Police doing anything. Edited January 3, 2022 by Mikhail Liebestein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhulk50 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said: Not sure how a $500k payment between two individuals can give Randy Andy any protection? https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/jeffrey-epstein-paid-accuser-virginia-roberts-giuffre-500k-in-2009-deal/amp/ Though in all honesty it would need a Mossad style air freight container operation to get him to the US for trial now. I can't see the UK Police doing anything. Looks like Randy Andy will get off with it, it's really up to the US judge tomorrow and no doubt a few will have already received brown envelopes from old Lizzie paying them off to save her fat son . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) On 1/3/2022 at 6:27 PM, Greenhulk50 said: Looks like Randy Andy will get off with it, it's really up to the US judge tomorrow and no doubt a few will have already received brown envelopes from old Lizzie paying them off to save her fat son. I don't think Prince Andrew is any sort of paedo. I think that the most they got on him, was that one photo with Virginia Roberts. The PTB probably want him out of the way now, as he is pro-monarchy. Hence, they are trying to take him down with Epstein and Maxwell, who the PTB didn't want taking down. Did Prince Andrew have sex with Virginia Roberts? I don't know. If he did have sex with her, did he know she wasn't 18? I doubt it, but I agree he shouldn't have, even if he thought she was a year or two older. If he did have sex with her, did he see it as consensual? I would say quite probably. If he saw it as consensual, then was he breaking any law, by having sex with her? I am not 100% sure, but I don't think so. It is very odd how much attention Prince Andrew is now getting, when they could easily sweep a lot of it under the carpet. Jimmy Savile evaded the mass media bloodhounds and police, for nigh on his entire life; yet Prince Andrew is seemingly getting the full treatment over one photo and one allegation of having unconsensual sex with a 17 year old. So, are they heavily reporting on it all, in this post-Savile, #metoo world of fearless journalism, for the sake of lofty ideals and our benefit? Hmm, not in my opinion. Meanwhile, isn't this quite handy for our Ghislaine. I doubt she will get very far with it though. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59884806 'Ghislaine Maxwell: Lawyers call for retrial over juror.' comments.' Edited January 6, 2022 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, numnuts said: I don't think Prince Andrew is any sort of paedo. lol the royal family have their own subsection of the police force dedicated to protecting them They are directly dovetailed into the british intelligence community and you don't think that they would warn andrew off a known pedo like epstein? andrew knew exactly what he was getting involved with as did president clinton Just the same as prince charles knew who he was hanging around with when he hung about with saville just as mountbatten was linked to the kinkora boys school They all know exactly what they are doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 7/24/2020 at 8:15 PM, northern star said: Strange that there was a posting on 4chan before any of the story broke out, from a worker at the hospital saying he had been "switched", and then there were press photos before the story broke out too, how did they know?? Hollywood is capable of any kind of visual trickery, the pictures below, really, shows the dummy they wheeled out had no legs, it was just done for the media.. I wouldnt be surprised if he wasnt dead, and if Ghislaine wasnt even in that prison. Maybe she is, but she has the protection of the Queen of England, dont forget, and always has done, and had British military guards at her mansion, also a sign she is protected by the crown. When are they going to start questioning those further up from Maxwell? At first glance I read the back of that paramedic jacket as FONY as in PHONEY/ fake! Heh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Also looks like G Maxwell may get off even though convicted. Now their lawyer is digging up dirt on the just members. Like they didn't know everything beforehand, honestly, what a scam. I dont know why they bother having their fake trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, numnuts said: don't think Prince Andrew is any sort of paedo. I think there all in on it ,Lord Mountbatten ( FBI files), the queen and her recently departed cohort with the 10 missing native kids from a Canadian orphanage, Charles and his mate Saville , now Andrew and Epsteine,the difference being with Andrew there is photo of him with his accuser which lends credence to her accusation. Maybe, just maybe all the media attention on him is the royals very cleverly throwing him under the bus as a token sacrificial lamb (I say token because nothing will happen to the prick) but while the attention is on him the other sicko's in the family will be removed from society's physique and therefore all their relevant indiscretions hidden from view. I'm probably wrong ,but just my thoughts Edited January 7, 2022 by peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I never knew that something called a 'pre-emptive pardon' even existed as a concept. Or maybe they just made it up? Has anyone ever been pre-emptively pardoned, in the history of the U.S.? I don't know, but I doubt it. Anyhow, this just lends further weight to my theory that Maxwell, if not yet released or fake suicided, will be pardoned by Biden, in his last days in office in January 2025. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-lawyer-asked-donald-trump-pre-emptive-pardon-3666htt66 'Alan Dershowitz asked Donald Trump to grant Ghislaine Maxwell a pre-emptive pardon.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m754 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) - Edited January 10, 2022 by m754 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, numnuts said: I never knew that something called a 'pre-emptive pardon' even existed as a concept. Or maybe they just made it up? Has anyone ever been pre-emptively pardoned, in the history of the U.S.? I don't know, but I doubt it. Anyhow, this just lends further weight to my theory that Maxwell, if not yet released or fake suicided, will be pardoned by Biden, in his last days in office in January 2025. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-lawyer-asked-donald-trump-pre-emptive-pardon-3666htt66 'Alan Dershowitz asked Donald Trump to grant Ghislaine Maxwell a pre-emptive pardon.' so did the jewish puppet (that everyone on here says he is), who was such best buddies with jizzlane pardon her? hmmm no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, bamboozooka said: hmmm Maxwell couldn't be pardoned by Trump, as she hadn't been convicted of anything. If you are talking about the concept of 'pre-emptive pardons', unless you blindly accept the word of Alan Dershowitz that they exist (?), then I would suggest it eventually dawned on them that there is no such thing. There are some limits to how far they can push the bullshit ceiling. If Maxwell does get a retrial, then I will be intrigued to see whether she again refuses to testify, on the grounds that the case against her hasn't been proved. Therefore, she doesn't need to testify. Funny. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the jurors have been 'got at', after the trial ended. It's either that or an already dirty juror couldn't swing the rest of the jury, when they were deliberating the verdict, so is now doing the next best thing of tainting the verdict. Edited January 11, 2022 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) already using the tainted juror by using a plant. but they shouldnt have to if they are in complete control of everything. some people are in total denial. Edited January 11, 2022 by bamboozooka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 9 hours ago, numnuts said: If you are talking about the concept of 'pre-emptive pardons', unless you blindly accept the word of Alan Dershowitz that they exist They do exist. Professor Dershowitz is correct Pardons do not have to follow convictions and can be issued before or during a criminal prosecution. The rationale for “pre-emptive” pardons is that there is nothing to be gained by making an individual live in fear of a conviction, or to undergo a trial for the offence of which he is or might be accused and would ultimately be pardoned. Pre-emptive pardons do not however apply to future offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: They do exist. Have you ever seen one? I did have a quick look online and I was reminded of President Ford pre-emptively pardoning President Nixon, so you are indeed correct. However, other than some mass pre-emptive pardons, known as amnesties (not what I was referring to), there isn't much history there. It would have been beyond the pale for Trump to pre-emptively pardon Maxwell, like he knew she was guilty of paedo shit, especially after all of the stink about Epstein. The PTB do have a bullshit ceiling. If Maxwell had been convicted a year earlier, then sure Trump would have pardoned her. Imagine how the historical list would have looked, if Maxwell had been pre-emptively pardoned. President George Washington - pre-emptively pardoned the Whiskey Rebellion insurgents. President Gerald Ford - pre-emptively pardoned President Richard Nixon. President Jimmy Carter - pre-emptively pardoned those who refused to serve in Vietnam. President Biff - pre-emptively pardoned his paedo mate, on the advice of Alan Dershowitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, numnuts said: President Biff - pre-emptively pardoned his paedo mate, on the advice of Alan Dershowitz. Flynn was pardoned for a specific crime and for any and other possible offences arising out of the Muller investigation. I wouldn't be surprised if Fauci gets one and Hunter Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Flynn was pardoned for a specific crime and for any and other possible offences arising out of the Muller investigation. I wouldn't be surprised if Fauci gets one and Hunter Biden. Flynn had already pleaded guilty though. Who knows what might happen in the future. The PTB are totally out of control and living on borrowed time. I have a feeling that there won't be much of Fauci left to pre-emptively pardon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 7 hours ago, numnuts said: Flynn had already pleaded guilty though. Who knows what might happen in the future. The PTB are totally out of control and living on borrowed time. I have a feeling that there won't be much of Fauci left to pre-emptively pardon. Flynn has immunity from any charges that might arise out of the Muller investigation. Fauci is like a cockroach. He'll survive a nuclear strike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 starting to sweat Prince Andrew HAS sold £17m Swiss chalet to pay for legal battle with rape accuser Virginia Giuffre https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17245348/prince-andrew-sold-swiss-chalet-legal-battle/ really sweating now. Prince Andrew WILL face sex assault lawsuit in US: Royal to be called for dramatic court showdown in New York as judge refuses his attempt to throw out Virginia Roberts's case accusing him of having sex with her when she was 17 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10394651/Prince-Andrew-face-civil-sex-case-trial.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 BBC 'News At Ten' just said that 'Prince Andrew stands alone'. Wrong, I stand with Prince Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 The House of Windsor is facing its demise. An aged Queen, whose consort has already passed away, hoping to be reincarnated as the next Covid variant and two sons who fraternised with the most notorious paedophiles and prolific child sex-traffickers; enablers and blackmailers of the rich and famous. Murder, necrophilia, rape, torture, we have heard enough about the proclivities of “historic abusers” to know the ‘services’ on offer. There appears to be an unlimited supply of victims. The future King is an ineffectual inbred weakling, dabbling in global politics, out of touch with reality and his Queen is a usurper. Their heir and his wife are also being groomed to ascend the throne; King Billy and Queen Kate, with her perpetual smile, while their subjects are in turmoil and an estranged half-brother who has crossed the pond to embrace ‘celebrity’ with his unconventional family. After the media have milked the Queen’s death and state funeral to the limit, we will have to endure the cringeworthy crowning of Charles and Camilla, with pomp and splendour, lavish celebrations, exclusively for the elite. I could not imagine a more unpopular King, apart from the one who was beheaded. The Monarchy are doomed, defunct and debauched, that much is clear. They are not worthy to be our role models or representatives throughout the world. They are unfit to rule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Velma said: The House of Windsor is facing its demise. what fills the void though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) The entire global political structure, based on the ancient Mystery Religion, is being bound up and is facing the Abyss, to make way for something entirely new. Edited January 14, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, numnuts said: BBC 'News At Ten' just said that 'Prince Andrew stands alone'. Wrong, I stand with Prince Andrew. Eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, Velma said: The House of Windsor is facing its demise. An aged Queen, whose consort has already passed away, hoping to be reincarnated as the next Covid variant and two sons who fraternised with the most notorious paedophiles and prolific child sex-traffickers; enablers and blackmailers of the rich and famous. Murder, necrophilia, rape, torture, we have heard enough about the proclivities of “historic abusers” to know the ‘services’ on offer. There appears to be an unlimited supply of victims. The future King is an ineffectual inbred weakling, dabbling in global politics, out of touch with reality and his Queen is a usurper. Their heir and his wife are also being groomed to ascend the throne; King Billy and Queen Kate, with her perpetual smile, while their subjects are in turmoil and an estranged half-brother who has crossed the pond to embrace ‘celebrity’ with his unconventional family. After the media have milked the Queen’s death and state funeral to the limit, we will have to endure the cringeworthy crowning of Charles and Camilla, with pomp and splendour, lavish celebrations, exclusively for the elite. I could not imagine a more unpopular King, apart from the one who was beheaded. The Monarchy are doomed, defunct and debauched, that much is clear. They are not worthy to be our role models or representatives throughout the world. They are unfit to rule. Well said Velma! At least its all emerging how little respect the political arm of the cabal has for the royal arm of the cabal. And the absolute contempt they have for the people, who should be apoplectic when realising how duped they have been by all of these jokers. And the truth hasnt even started to emerge about the men who committed the crimes Maxwell is paying the price for. What a bunch. Downing Street staff held a 'lockdown-breaking party' on the eve of Prince Philip's funeral and 'drank into the early hours' before The Queen sat alone to lay her husband of 70 years to rest https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10400605/Downing-Street-staff-partied-Queen-grieved-alone.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad the lad Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Macnamara said: what fills the void though? I don't think there is any room for that bunch in the NWO and the baton will be handed over in the very near future. Obviously still kept within the bloodlines and the same little inbred cesspit. It's time for a new broom as we enter into the age of Aquarius. The new one world leader or possibly anti-Christ they have lined up will almost certainly not be any of them muppets and therefore it makes them even more useless than they are already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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