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Does anyone here actually want Biden to win? It’s clear Biden is a cult member, at least with Trump there’s a chance he could do something good. Even if the Rothschilds helped him out, Trump doesn’t have to play ball once he’s back in for a second term. He could be playing them, I highly doubt it, but I can’t help but wonder, why does the media want us to hate him, why do they never report on anything good he does. The media could easily have Hilary, Obama and Biden in prison but choose to make out they’re wonderful people. As for vaccinations, he’s saying people to get vaccinated around December. He can change his mind once he gets back in, but performs his sales pitch for big pharma leading up to election time. Who knows which side trump is really on, it will be interesting to see

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5 hours ago, Seeker said:

Does anyone here actually want Biden to win? It’s clear Biden is a cult member, at least with Trump there’s a chance he could do something good. Even if the Rothschilds helped him out, Trump doesn’t have to play ball once he’s back in for a second term. He could be playing them, I highly doubt it, but I can’t help but wonder, why does the media want us to hate him, why do they never report on anything good he does. The media could easily have Hilary, Obama and Biden in prison but choose to make out they’re wonderful people. As for vaccinations, he’s saying people to get vaccinated around December. He can change his mind once he gets back in, but performs his sales pitch for big pharma leading up to election time. Who knows which side trump is really on, it will be interesting to see

 

Good points made here and I'm in a very similar state of mind regarding Trump. Everything is about NWO and the vaccine is right at the peak of that plan.

EVERYONE 'chipped' up with their poisonous vaccines!

Everything else he does is irrelevant if he backs the plan.

 

Supporting him if he is pro vaccine would  be like saying......" The serial killer did some good things and he wasn't all bad".

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5 hours ago, Seeker said:

Does anyone here actually want Biden to win? It’s clear Biden is a cult member, at least with Trump there’s a chance he could do something good. Even if the Rothschilds helped him out, Trump doesn’t have to play ball once he’s back in for a second term. He could be playing them, I highly doubt it, but I can’t help but wonder, why does the media want us to hate him, why do they never report on anything good he does. The media could easily have Hilary, Obama and Biden in prison but choose to make out they’re wonderful people. As for vaccinations, he’s saying people to get vaccinated around December. He can change his mind once he gets back in, but performs his sales pitch for big pharma leading up to election time. Who knows which side trump is really on, it will be interesting to see

 

That's what I'm sort of thinking. I just think he needs that second term to do what he said he was going to do... We know the ramifications of the US doing that will bring the lot down but I know deep down I'm clutching at straws.

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I really don't think it matters whether Trump or Biden wins, the 'agenda' will push on regardless.

 

What will be interesting to look for is who Biden chooses as his 'running mate', ie who would become deputy president if he wins. Same goes for Trump.

 

The 'next president' will end up being someone 'unelected' - ie Trump or Biden would be 'disposed' of in order for 'them' to get their 'chosen one' in place, someone who wouldn't normally stand a chance of winning any 'popular vote'.

 

Its all a sham. The way things are heading at the moment, what with 'Covid-19' and the 'BLM' frenzy, its probably not looking good for Trump, so this could all be being engineered to give Biden an unlikely victory.

 

The likelihood is that regardless of whoever 'wins' this election, the levels of division and unrest in the USA are just going to end up being stoked even higher. And I think its all being done deliberately, this is after all exactly what "they" want, people arguing and fighting each other.

 

 

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Biden is a very dangerous man.  He is a complete robot reading from the autocue.  He has no .. brain.

Just watch him, he has suffered brain death and is a total puppet, a soulless dead man walking.

Anything can be put inside him, ... there is nothing in there.

That makes him very dangerous and given the vicious scum in the DNC ... it would be very bad.

Trump is a New Yorker, his instincts are good and he acts, he is sound.

Who else can take action?  Very few politicians can, but Trump with all his tough business shenanigans he knows how to make things happen in the real world ... that is very rare.  Trump is a rare president of any country.

Trump just does stuff nobody can believe because most presidents are just signing their name on other people's bills.

Of course he is very business friendly, has big friends, and Israeli friends ... but he is still alive.

And he loves his country in an old fashioned way.

No contest.

 

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16 hours ago, Seeker said:

Does anyone here actually want Biden to win? It’s clear Biden is a cult member, at least with Trump there’s a chance he could do something good. Even if the Rothschilds helped him out, Trump doesn’t have to play ball once he’s back in for a second term. He could be playing them, I highly doubt it, but I can’t help but wonder, why does the media want us to hate him, why do they never report on anything good he does. The media could easily have Hilary, Obama and Biden in prison but choose to make out they’re wonderful people. As for vaccinations, he’s saying people to get vaccinated around December. He can change his mind once he gets back in, but performs his sales pitch for big pharma leading up to election time. Who knows which side trump is really on, it will be interesting to see

 

I would like to see both Biden and Trump lose the election.  The media play the old game of good cop, bad cop to ensnare as many people as possible into the Left vs Right game.  The Elite have not given up their power by allowing the public to vote. In the U.S. all you get are 2 candidates to vote for, which is very easy to stitch up.  In four years of Donald Trump the Deep State has remained fully intact. Hilary, Biden, Obama and Trump will never be in prison, they are protected by the system and all the investigations, impeachment hearings etc. will go nowhere, but are nice circus distractions for those who are the participating audiance in the invented left - right paradigm. The Democratic Party and the Republican Party support and reinforce each other, without the other they would each collapse.  When Trump rolls out the the Vaccine in the US will you except Trump is a puppet or will you find some excuse to continue to have faith in him?

 

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34 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

When Trump rolls out the the Vaccine in the US will you except Trump is a puppet or will you find some excuse to continue to have faith in him?


You know at the end of True Romance when matey puts his hands up to talk to the officer in the middle of the shoot-out?

 

Well that’s me now.

 

I'm not allowed to leave though am I... Fuck sake.

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I have no clue what's next, up to the virus scam and during it's all been so predictable but something is brewing beyond comprehension... I know it's vague and broad and I feel naive saying it but I just have a nagging feeling that he will go some way to draining the swamp...

 

I feel like an idiot saying it, especially being such a miserable, cynical git that I am.

 

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I don't want Biden to "win". It's been my belief for years that every US president that gets into the oval office has been chosen years in advance, including Trump.

 

The NWO's game is political ping pong because most Americans are too stupid to figure it out and change it. So every four to eight years we get republican, then democrat. The mainstream media machine vilify that president any way they are told to by their council on foreign relations (CFR) masters, then the public react by hating the republican party for closing the border, opposing tax cuts, removing LGBT from the military, and other policies that piss off the left, so then the next time around a democrat is put into office to placate the democrats. Then the new democrat president is supported by the MSM as doing no wrong even though he engages in endless war like obama did, hand outs for the welfare system, supports open borders, supports LGBT, etc, which enrages the republicans. Then the next president is a republican to placate the republican party followers.

 

This is what I call political ping pong, and I've watched it happen for four decades. I didn't become aware of it until around 2013 when obama was in office and making the claim that he found and killed osama bin laden, which was a big fat lie. Now most of those Navy Seals who allegedly found osama bin laden, are dead. Dead men tell no tales. Obama was a huge liar and terrible for this country and the world. Not because he was a muslim, I don't believe he was, but because he was simply another marxist turd helping the NWO agenda.

 

After I had realized that obama was a sell out puppet to the NWO I sat and thought about all the presidents before him and goign back as far as I could remember which was to George Bush senior in the mid 80's. I remember my third or fourth grade teacher wheeling one of those tall TV carts into the classroom to show us the Gulf war. The "teacher", a brainwashed idiot or a sell out, began to tell the class how the US armed forces were going in to Kuwait to "help" them fight a war.

 

Then decades later after I had remembered this, again around 2013, I did some research on it and found that the Kuwait war under Bush senior was when he used the lie about how Kuwait soldiers or terrorists, I can't remember exactly, had taken babies from incubators and left them on the cold floor to die. His claim was backed up by the Ambassadors daughter Nariah. Only no one at the time knew that she was the Ambassadors daughter and that she had been coached to lie by knowlten & hill PR firm (who are still around today).

 

Knowing this, over the last few years I had been telling people on several forums (before they had banned me because they didn't want the truth to be told on their forum), but I had been telling people that I believe that Trump was groomed for his part as president.

 

Think about it. Americans live by the TV. They believe almost everything they seen on the TV. Over the years Trump had always been painted as this cool suave mysterious successful business man. He made appearances with small parts in many movies over the years leading up to having his own TV show around 2007 or 8, going off of memory.

 

That TV show was predictive programming to warm up the population to having Trump in an authoritative position, that being US president a card which the NWO apparatus would play just as the population were sick and tired of lying cheating barack obama. Americans were socially engineered to beg for Trump, especially the middle aged and older white male who are ego driven, conservative, gun toting, freedom-loving, spiritually un-evolved people. If you think about Trumps actions over the years, that is exactly who he caters to. Women too, although there are far less women who fit that description than there are men.

 

So the NWO were successful in hitting that ping pong ball back across the table to the red zone once again to buy themselves more time before they could roll out this bullshit virus to scare the population with the Hegelian dialect before offers the so-called solution of the RFID chip while the NWO quickly recalls coins as they move towards their cashless digital currency system in a final check mate move against humanity.

 

After Trump, who knows what will happen. I think people are so sick of democrats at this point since they are tired to BLM and anti-fa, and the LGBT people (who are now pushing for pedophilia to be recognized as a lifestyle, if you have seen that one screenshot of someone who reported a inappropriate pedo related post and facebook's response to allow it to stay).

 

Maybe Trump was their final card and they had the corona psyop planned. I think they did. There has been talk of a rfid chip planned for years but I think with all the psyops that take place very few people have the time to sit and sift through everything to see the future play of this lunatic NWO faction. I'm sure some people called it years ago but they were probably silenced or buried under a sea of MSM sensationalist crap.

 

I heard the other day that nancy pelosi was bragging that if something happens to Trump and Pence then she is next in line to be president.

 

Who knows what will happen, I think Americans are too pussified to really do anythign at this point in the human evolution. It's not like it was two or three centuries ago where people died all the time from various things. The life span expectancy was much shorter back then due to so many variances. Pirates, gangs, no fire suppression in buildings, illness due to poor sanitation, starvation if crops didn't grow, natural disasters, etc.

 

In this modern world we have greatly increased the life span expectancy due to vast strides in industrialization of our world. Now we have fire sprinkler systems in most buildings, in fact you will not pass inspection without it in a commercial or multi-residential building. We have a different type of gang and pirates these days, they are called big pharma and banks, corporations who rob people, feed them poison drugs they have tricked people into calling "prescription". We have banks who will cause real estate crashes and then foreclose on your house. But we also have excellent sanitation/sewage system and water filtration in the western world and some other countries. We have modern trash disposal/waste management, all of this which means people are living longer which is what the NWO consider to be a problem for them since we are also using up resources very rapidly which is putting a huge strain on planet Earth.

 

Sorry for the long post, quite simply, Biden is not fit to be president of any country, let alone one who has such an advanced military and space program. Biden can't even go one speech without making himself look like he's well into dementia.

 

I'm not a fan of Trump, but I can also confidently say that hillary clinton was a murderous evil witch and anyone who doesn't consider the facts regarding all the dead bodies linked to her should have their head checked. Trump was a far better pick for the USA than hillary clinton. I am by no means opposed to a female president, but hillary clinton was certainly NOT a good choice even if she were the last woman alive. But she is very closely linked to the rockefellers which is why she had so much power. But putting her in power would have exposed that link would would have been very bad for the NWO which is why she didn't "win" and instead "they" put Trump in.

 

Americans need to come to terms with the fact that they don't actually "elect" US presidents. US presidents are chosen well in advance as puppets to serve the NWO's agenda one of which is to remain hidden so they can continue working towards ruling over the entire planet. They are very close to accomplishing that goal.

 

Think about how many years ago george bush senior was talking about a new world order. That was back in 1988 I think. He openly said it many times, ON FILM, ON RECORD. Yet over the years on many forums when I and other tried mentioning this the first douchebags to ridicule, delete posts, and even ban people, were US armed forces tossers. The same government thug leeches on society who sat there and claimed to "fight for freedom" and "serve their country". We have had DECADES to stop this NWO take over and millions of dumb sheep Americans didn't listen to me and to the small amount of other people who were sounding the alarm. Well, now I hope Americans are happy. I could only hope that this post was read by every single American so I could say, I told you so, and you didn't listen, so line up for your vaccine you stupid sheep, you have yourselves to blame, and next time when a messenger is sent to inform you of some very important information, maybe you will listen.

 

Maybe now people will get a clue when I and others are saying that we must UNITE and grow food, specifically alkaline food. We must turn off the TV, we must not take the vaccine. But Americans will have to change a lot of what they are doing, especially what they consider food. They can no longer continue to eat poison and then expect a government to provide them with "health" "care", because the government doesn't care. If the government cared the FDA wouldn't allow most products on the selves of grocery stores because 90% of them are poison, and the FDA know this, but they don't care, because that poison will get people sick and then those people will go to their "doctor" who will prescribe to them a big pharma (etymology - pharma = sorcerer) drug which will only mask the original problem and create other problems to which then another drug will be prescribed. In the end when you break it down and reduce it, it all comes back to money, profit, and control over people to reduce their life span and make them dependent upon the state.

 

Get together and grow alkaline food. Forget about this "virus", it's bullshit. Peop-le are getting sick because they eat shite "food". We are in the FIFTH month from when this corona "virus" psyop began in March and I have yet to get any such illness, neither have the people who I know who eat healthy. Maintain alkalinity and your chances of getting sick are slim to none. Ditch those stupid electronic cell phone watches, they disrupt the aura. Stop eating pork, it's cannibalism (no one knows where the pig came from but it's skin is closest to humans out of the millions of animals on this planet, hmmm, get a clue).

 

Men out there in the world, so many men are weak, even the ones who believe they are "alpha" males because they can bench press 300 lbs or because they may have a huge penis, or a lot of money, or a fast car, or a trophy wife or girlfriend or two or three. Who gives a shit bro. You think you're the only one to experience all of that? LOL! Pulease.

 

One of humanity's biggest faults, especially the so-called "alpha" males, they don't believe what they cannot physically see. They don't believe something someone tells them who is not "educated" at some pseudo school or university. Newsflash! The US "education" system is one of the reasons why humanity are in the mess they are today. Too many "educated" idiots with degrees who think that because they can simply remember and repeat fallacies that this somehow makes them smart. Nope, wrong. Most of what people are taught in school are lies.

 

Think about it, if universities and colleges taught the truth, regarding health care for example, would there be so many dis-eased, sick and obese people in America?! No, there wouldn't. Millions of people would be healthy and would be laughing at this "virus" because they would know that we have the knowledge to eradicate it. The US government have the CURE for every dis-ease known to man, yet when you tell those idiots with pink ribbons on their car that there has been a cure for cancer since 1930 thanks to Royal Rife, they get all stiff and defensive as if they are defending cancer! They want there to be cancer with no cure, because if there is a cure, they're out of a job! Oh no! How terrible for you to have to find another job if we heal all of humanity from this one illness. How selfish of people to not want a cure for cancer.

 

Same thing with the psyop staged shootings. Ever notice how so many sheople will defend those shootings as being real? As if they WANT people to be dead. You can put a mountain of evidence in front of them showing names of real people who helped set up the psyop yet they will still deny it and say that it was real. Those are the people who have brought the world to corona "virus". Thank them.

 

I must digress, because even though I haven't smoked any cannabis tonight, I'm on a roll.

 

Biden is not fit for presidency of ANY country.

 

Who should be the next US president? I don't know, if we could reincarnate John F Kennedy I would vote for him to pick up where he left off before the cabal killed him.

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7 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

at least trump can throw a ball straight unlike swamp rat fauci

 

 

What a dumbass. I wouldn't even let that scumbag on the field. Maybe he would have thrown a better pitch if he could breath! Take off the mask you dumbshit!

 

Sorry but he's one of those arseholes who is wrecking humanity, he deserves no mercy.

 

And look at Trump go, he can actually catch and throw pretty good.

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theres's no fucking way a perverted mentally-disordered creep like biden should win over another perverted mentally-disordered creep.

 

the world sucks. and choosing the lesser of the two evils seems to be the now norm. so just like trump .vs. killary, i'll grit and rather trump.

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5 hours ago, KingKitty said:

The "polls" had Hillary winning all along, as well.

 

Whom ever wins, America loses. I see no good coming after the election. Sadly, these are the good times...enjoy them while you can.

 

But hilliary did win - and the polls were quite accurate in the share of the national vote she got. 

 

So the polls can can be quite accurate.

 

as for the American election, it’s frankly irrelevant- you have a choice between two Elite owned and controlled ‘stooges’. 

 

So so as far as the elite are concerned, they won’t be too bothered who wins - once the populace fall again for the illusion that they are participating in a ‘ democracy’. 

 

But you you have to laugh at some ‘truthers’ who believe that trump isn’t owned and controlled by the ELite.

 

he is their perfect stooge. 

 

He has has no idea what is going on, doesn’t understand any of it anyway - spends all his time watching tv and creating ‘ great drama’ that the Elite media follow obsessively - allowing the Elite to get in with their job without the media taking any interest. 

 

 

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Trump wins, out go many entitlements, democrats(gallows or gitmo) then appeals freedom of the press. If media wants to be like it is then good riddance, it is used by the left to control and divide for years to garner 50% of the vote while reps Do nothing in way of marketing to get the 50% they need ..

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I hope Trump wins but it will be hard because too many people buy the Democrat-supported narrative on Covid, and it's been shown beyond doubt that Google and other big tech strongly favour the Left side on EVERY topic!! That should tell everyone enough.

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29 minutes ago, Firebird said:

I hope Trump wins but it will be hard because too many people buy the Democrat-supported narrative on Covid, and it's been shown beyond doubt that Google and other big tech strongly favour the Left side on EVERY topic!! That should tell everyone enough.

 

Thank god, we have Trump to save us from the COVID narrative, those nasty Democrats and leftie big tech, like Bill Gate's GAVI (The Vaccine Alliance).🤣

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, RE:fresh said:

Trump wins, out go many entitlements, democrats(gallows or gitmo) then appeals freedom of the press. If media wants to be like it is then good riddance, it is used by the left to control and divide for years to garner 50% of the vote while reps Do nothing in way of marketing to get the 50% they need ..

 

Someone else on the other side of the political illusion game (the pretence of real choice), a Republican, will say exactly the same as you, just with the names changed.

 

Biden wins, out go many entitlements, Republicans (gallows or gitmo) then appeals freedom of the press. If media wants to be like it is then good riddance, it is used by the right to control and divide for years to garner 50% of the vote while Demos Do nothing in way of marketing to get the 50% they need ..

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8 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

Someone else on the other side of the political illusion game (the pretence of real choice), a Republican, will say exactly the same as you, just with the names changed.

 

Biden wins, out go many entitlements, Republicans (gallows or gitmo) then appeals freedom of the press. If media wants to be like it is then good riddance, it is used by the right to control and divide for years to garner 50% of the vote while Demos Do nothing in way of marketing to get the 50% they need ..

No they wont. That's the lie people tell themselves who want to by cynical of the system yet detached and vague. The media/Rinos/libs.. All on the same side. A* few* reps/(libertarian) only want what's best for others. Sorry but liberals do not want anything good ever...

But they lie ...and people eat that shit up! 

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