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US ELECTION 2020: Trump vs Biden


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17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

That video is literally retarded nonsense.

 

 

 

He says it himself but no amount of evidence is enough for you fanboy loonies. What about his campaign being funded by Sheldon Adelson, zionist billionaire who loves Israel way more than the US? Or Trump appointing Wilbur Ross as the secretary of commerce, Rothschild banker who bailed him out for billions during his casino days? 

 

 

Actually fuck it i'm done. Tried many times to get through to people on this issue but everyone seems to be living on the funny farm nowadays.

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It appears the presidential race matters not to the power elite meaning big business.  The stock market rallied because of the senate race, which maintained a Republican majority, ensuring taxes on big business will not rise.  
 

If big business, who is really in charge of this country doesn’t care, maybe the office of the president is an ineffectual power? 
 

As far as covid, if Trump wins he may say “no mandatory vaccines,” but it is meaningless when all schools and businesses mandate them nevertheless.  

 

If Biden wins he will be unable to turn the country socialist because of the senate majority.  It is illegal for the president to issue a nationwide lockdown.  That is up to individual states to determine. 
 

 

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15 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

the reason for digital soldiers / midnight riders

 

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It's so blatant lol

 

I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates your posts bam, I look forward to more random twitter posts that give me hope lol👍

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Those nice folks from the tell-lie-vision certainly don't like Trump:

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811406

 

The BBC apparently now has a Reality Check Team complete with All Seeing Eye logo.

 

The words BBC 'Reality Check Team' send my globalist bullshit meter off the scale!

 

Sure enough, there's a Reality Check article on why you should trust Bill Gates, another on why you should get tested for Conjob 19 etc...

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1 hour ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

He says it himself but no amount of evidence is enough for you fanboy loonies. What about his campaign being funded by Sheldon Adelson, zionist billionaire who loves Israel way more than the US? Or Trump appointing Wilbur Ross as the secretary of commerce, Rothschild banker who bailed him out for billions during his casino days? 

 

 

Actually fuck it i'm done. Tried many times to get through to people on this issue but everyone seems to be living on the funny farm nowadays.

 

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Guest Gone Fishing...

American Presidents - Craig Murray guesses Biden (just)



I have hardly blogged on the US Presidential elections for two reasons. Firstly the debate is so polarised that many people are oblivious to rational argument that moves outwith the few favoured memes of each side, and I have more than enough abuse in my life already.

Secondly, it is some years since I spent any substantial length of time in the USA, and it is a country I find that I understand less and less. I prefer to blog about things where I bring not just judgement, but an extra store of knowledge.

 

I am very frequently chided for not posting on a subject; a number of people have approached me asking me to post on Nagorno-Karabakh, and indeed I have been offered money to post here on the subject, an offer I suspect would have turned out to be accompanied by conditions as to what I wrote. I will never accept such offers. I am not a corrupt shill like the highly respectable mainstream media journalists receiving secret UK government cash for propaganda from the Integrity Initiative. But also Nagorno-Karabakh is an ancient and tangled dispute with roots that lie deep in history, with complex modern consequences, and which would require a huge amount of reading before I was ready to take a considered view. It is part of a region of which I do in fact have a very deep knowledge, but on Nagorno-Krabakh not specific enough.
 

I think it is important not to become an all-purpose pundit who fires off unconsidered views on everything that occurs. Such pundits are two a penny in the mainstream media.
 

On the US election I showed my limitations with a tweet yesterday evening predicting Biden would win fairly comfortably, and Trump would concede with good grace. I was wrong. I think Biden will win, but not comfortably and with margins in the key “rust bucket” states close enough for Trump to have every right to question in court aspects of the United States’ rickety voting practices. I still expect to see President Biden at the end of it all.
 

I know that many of my readers will be triumphant at the departure of Trump. I can understand that. From the viewpoint of US domestic policy and particularly attitudes to social division, race and immigration, the end of Trump’s cynical manipulation of atavistic instinct among the electorate will be in itself a good thing. This has not been a healthy period in US politics.
 

But Trump has not been defeated by a Bernie Sanders; he has been defeated by a corrupt political hack backed to the hilt by the large majority of the billionaire owned media, financed out of Wall street and with no intention of pursuing anything other than neo-liberal economic policies. It is also the firm re-establishment of the rule of the security state and the military-industrial complex. Trump’s instinctive isolationism made him an enemy of the security state interest which spent a great deal of time in trying to undermine its President.
 

With Biden we will return to business as usual, and that means war and invasions. Under Trump we have had no new wars started, even if he continued old ones with little control. Without Trump, I have not the tiniest doubt that Syria would have been bombed back to the Stone Age, exactly like Libya, and millions more people would have been killed. Irrespective of the undoubted damage Trump has caused inside the United States across many fronts, Hillary would have killed a lot more people. Just not Americans.
 

I pause to note that the terrorist in Vienna had attempted to go as a jihadist to Syria and fight against Assad. If he had not been prevented from doing that, he would have been financed by the Saudis, fed and clothed by the Turks, armed by the CIA, trained by the SAS and given air support by the Israelis. He might even have got to be a TV star posing in a White Helmet, or employment artfully placing chlorine bottles on beds for pictures by Bellingcat. Unfortunately, having been prevented from joining the western sponsored insurgency, he ended up killing Austrians instead of Syrians and now is a “terrorist”, whereas jihadist killers of Syrians are “heroes”. A strange world. The Manchester Arena bomber was of course physically brought in to the UK by the British military after fighting for “our side” in Libya. You do indeed reap what you sow.
 

I hope that those who consider themselves of the left enjoy their relief when the electoral process finally puts to bed the extraordinary populism of Trumpism, and returns the USA to the smoother control of the regular media and political classes and their billionaire controllers. Because anybody who believes any more than that is happening is a fool. I said that I did not blog about the US elections because of the appalling partisan nature of debate. The truth is the system threw up, again, two truly obnoxious candidates entirely antithetical to the real interests of ordinary people in the USA. Biden will do nothing to tackle the appalling wealth and resource inequality which is the most startling problem the country faces. He will hopefully resolve social tensions in the short term. But the cause of those social tensions is a system of gross exploitation of the middle and working classes which is not sustainable in the long term, and which was the root of the Trump political eruption.
 

Kamala Harris was of course the most right wing possible Vice-Presidential pick. Her advance into power, despite being entirely rejected in the Democratic primaries, is in itself a huge condemnation of the system. I believe I am right in saying that Harris’s Primary campaign was so disastrous she managed to obtain zero delegates at all to the Democratic National Convention. Zero, None. Absolute bottom of the pile. Rejected by Democratic voters as the candidate in toto. Attempting to confirm this zero delegate fact, I just looked up the Wikipedia page on her primary campaign, which turns out to be the most entirely false, hagiographic and manicured Wikipedia page I have ever seen, on any subject, which is saying a lot. Apparently her Presidential Primary bid was in fact a tour de force of brilliant debating and political strategy, recounted in enormous detail, not an abject failure resulting in no delegates. The extraordinarily dishonest Wikipedia page is not perhaps in itself hugely important, but it is emblematic of the sinister manipulation behind the scenes of Kamala Harris’s rise to power.
 

Let us put a note in our collective diaries to look again in two years and see whether the USA has entered a period of renewed social progress, or just reinvigorated its position as a violent threat to the world. I am looking forward to the period when Biden’s mainstream cheerleaders have to find something positive to say rather than just respond “But Trump is evil”. I predict most of the responses below will say nothing much more on analysis than “But Trump is evil.” Knock yourselves out.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/11/american-presidents/ 

 

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My next prediction is that Trump will concede the election, probably tomorrow.....

 

It will disappoint a lot of his supporters but that is what Trump has been doing for four years anyway.

 

The man has no backbone or moral strength, he was always just all talk..... he won't take on the establishment.

 

A deal will be made or a threat will be delivered and he will fold like a birthday card.

 

And we will all just have to live with the realisation that that's the way things are now.

 

 

Voting will soon be seen as throwing coins down a wishing well.

 

Everyone does it, but they don't expect it to be a binding contract and their wish actually delivered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What I don't get about all of this is how the fuck is Joe Biden is even allowed to stand for president in light of all the shit his son has been up to? 

 

How can a man, who's been exposed as a criminal politician been allowed to even carry on with his campaign? Surely to fuck someone has some bloody sense and arrests this hack as soon as possible. It's fuckin mental. Just shows that you can do anything an get away with it, despite being exposed, as long as you have the right contacts. Take me now lord, I've had enough. 

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4 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

What I don't get about all of this is how the fuck is Joe Biden is even allowed to stand for president in light of all the shit has son has been up to? 

 

How can a man, who's been exposed as a criminal politician been allowed to even carry on with his campaign? Surely to fuck someone has some bloody sense and arrests this hack as soon as possible. It's fuckin mental. Just shows that you can do anything an get away with it, despite being exposed, as long as you have the right contacts. Take me now lord, I've had enough. 

 

 

i was doing a bit of research on him last night and actually began to felt sorry for him. he has had a lot of personal and tragic difficulties to overcome but none of that can offset what he is about to unleash on the USA, and hence the planet, being 'the leader of the free world'.

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