US ELECTION 2020: Trump vs Biden

[SovereigntyOfMan]

Who wins? 

 

Biden leads in all polls... but is Trump the guy the elite want in? Is it rigged? 

 

Can anyone recall a former president that was elected after being this far behind in the polls with only months to go till election day? Obviously trump was in 16 but it wasn't this much.... 

[SovereigntyOfMan]

In the event it would be rigged i would think Trump would win. Ive had the thought recently that the way things have gone this year especially with the rioting lately that they could be setting the left up to go ape shit when trump wins after being behind in the polls...

[SovereigntyOfMan]

Is Trump the guy the elite want behind the wheel for another 4 years?... or has he divided the country enough and now its time to stop pretending and bring in a hard-core socialist and get the nwo on the roll already

[Messenger]

Biden is such a fool, he can barely make sense when he speaks, and much like Hillary is caught up in a lot of corruption, Ukraine coup, groping underage girls, and now this latest video of him plagiarizing a British member of parliament back in the 80's.

 

Youtube channel: "shithead" (no really lol)

 

 

[Sentient Being]

I don't believe polls for one second as I strongly believe they are composed to sway public opinion and not reflect the real mood of the people.

 

I'm also inclined to believe this:

 

 

[rideforever]

The polls are heavily pro-liberal because the media is.  Remember Brexit ... the BBC ... well anyway.

This morning I heard two Americans discuss the election and the reckon that Trump will win bigger than 2016 because the shenanigans are so huge now that people will get off their ass and drag themselves to the poll booth to vote for an end to the insanity.  Of course the polls will show Trump getting zero right until midnight at which point they declare a stunning upset and find experts to explain it away ... again.

I hope that is right.

And if Trump pushes through the democratic oversight of social media I think that would be the greatest policy decision in his tenure, and critical to maintain the integrity of the culture.

[Orange Alert]

8 minutes ago, rideforever said:

And if Trump pushes through the democratic oversight of social media I think that would be the greatest policy decision in his tenure, and critical to maintain the integrity of the culture.

 

Democratic oversight of the mass surveillance apparatus of the security state AKA social media? 

[Orange Alert]

[rideforever]

1 hour ago, Orange Alert said:

Democratic oversight of the mass surveillance apparatus of the security state AKA social media? 

 

Let me ask you this ... anti-nwo campaigners hate the state and its systems, they say they should be all free because they are consciousness ... and the liberal marxist hate the state and its systems and say they should be all free.

Sounds very similar to me.

It don't hear anything much different or any practical or realistic solutions.

[Orange Alert]

3 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

Let me ask you this ... anti-nwo campaigners hate the state and its systems, they say they should be all free because they are consciousness ... and the liberal marxist hate the state and its systems and say they should be all free.

Sounds very similar to me.

It don't hear anything much different or any practical or realistic solutions.

 

Karl Marx was backed the Rothschilds and the British Deep State, so there is a lot of difference between that and Anti-NWO.  Marxism is the globalists's agenda to weaken and breakdown countries for their centralised NWO.

[rideforever]

@Orange Alert

What I am trying to say is that the Marxists Liberals criticise everything, want to smash up everything (and replace it with their totalitarian system).

And the ... how do you call it ... truther new age movement criticise everything, want to smash it up ... and replace it with -I am not sure- free love ...

But I don't see any practical workable solutions coming from either party, nor any respect for the world that people have built.

There is a lot of heavy criticism plus no workable solutions, and a lot of idealism that never seems to emerge.

And while there is some difference between the two in some ways ... I just don't see any practical progress.

And more importantly the bricks that have been laid in this society by simple well meaning people do not seem to be respected by anyone.

Society is dominated by loud people who criticise everything whilst smaller people are building roads.

 

 

[AndyJ]

I actually think Trump has trolled the cabal quite a lot during this Scamdemic. I've never seen a President who has been so hated by the mainstream media and politicians. That tells me he's clearly a disruptive influence who isn't necessarily fully conforming to the cabal's plans. I don't for one minute think he's the saviour QAnon claim him to be but I do think it's worth considering he may not be the puppet we'd expect a President to be. For whatever reasons he may have, Trump could upset the apple cart when it comes to implementing the agenda.

[Nobby Noboddy]

7 minutes ago, rideforever said:

@Orange Alert

What I am trying to say is that the Marxists Liberals criticise everything, want to smash up everything (and replace it with their totalitarian system).

And the ... how do you call it ... truther new age movement criticise everything, want to smash it up ... and replace it with -I am not sure- free love ...

But I don't see any practical workable solutions coming from either party, nor any respect for the world that people have built.

There is a lot of heavy criticism plus no workable solutions, and a lot of idealism that never seems to emerge.

And while there is some difference between the two in some ways ... I just don't see any practical progress.

And more importantly the bricks that have been laid in this society by simple well meaning people do not seem to be respected by anyone.

Society is dominated by loud people who criticise everything whilst smaller people are building roads.

 

 

You again.

 

Truthers is probably another CIA/Tavistock label. We are ordinary people of vastly different backgrounds and perspectives who have noticed that the Khazars are still here working their shit on us. No-one I have ever spoken to wants to 'smash it up', basically a good human wants peace, contact and to enjoy what was created for us.

The solution is to stop the very small number of Khazars (we know they're a small number because they've estimated that no more than 500 million can be adequately handled by their attack dogs and tech), deal with them once and for all (Bear in mind other humans are infinitely compassionate and forgiving) and get on with enjoying creation.

[Orange Alert]

2 hours ago, rideforever said:

@Orange Alert

What I am trying to say is that the Marxists Liberals criticise everything, want to smash up everything (and replace it with their totalitarian system).

And the ... how do you call it ... truther new age movement criticise everything, want to smash it up ... and replace it with -I am not sure- free love ...

But I don't see any practical workable solutions coming from either party, nor any respect for the world that people have built.

There is a lot of heavy criticism plus no workable solutions, and a lot of idealism that never seems to emerge.

And while there is some difference between the two in some ways ... I just don't see any practical progress.

And more importantly the bricks that have been laid in this society by simple well meaning people do not seem to be respected by anyone.

Society is dominated by loud people who criticise everything whilst smaller people are building roads.

 

 

 

Never mind, thats is fine, if you see no practical solutions, just carrying on, don't question or avoid anything which comes down from your masters, vote for the come today, gone tommorrow political frontmen like Trump or Biden, happily pay your taxes for the military killing machine, bailouts for the so-called too big to fail banksters, the massive surveillance state that does not respect any citizen's privacy.  As history has shown countless times, those who smash the place up are either paid by or the useful idiots of the Globalists.

 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Orange Alert

[Scott Kirkland]

20 hours ago, SovereigntyOfMan said:

Is Trump the guy the elite want behind the wheel for another 4 years?... or has he divided the country enough and now its time to stop pretending and bring in a hard-core socialist and get the nwo on the roll already

The Democrats vote with Republicans on most bills. The DNC love Trump. They can just complain about Trump being the problem while voting along with the Republicans to keep their big donors happy.

[oddsnsods]

I made a lot of money last time betting on Trump, got a free holiday out of him..might get nice odds again if hes down on the polls.

 

 

 

[Edgecrusher]

2 hours ago, AndyJ said:

I actually think Trump has trolled the cabal quite a lot during this Scamdemic. I've never seen a President who has been so hated by the mainstream media and politicians. That tells me he's clearly a disruptive influence who isn't necessarily fully conforming to the cabal's plans. I don't for one minute think he's the saviour QAnon claim him to be but I do think it's worth considering he may not be the puppet we'd expect a President to be. For whatever reasons he may have, Trump could upset the apple cart when it comes to implementing the agenda.

 

I have been following QAnon on Twitter. What is the likelihood in him exposing the Clintons etc?

 

I really can't work him out to be honest. It can't be easy to "drain the swamp" of such a corrupt regime, and I don't expect that he will but something is telling me that if he wins this election then he either exposes enough to bring it all down, or we are (excuse my French) fucked.

 

He's clearly being sabotaged and much of this feels like it's happening as they don't want him in "power", so why would that be (if of course it is) if he wasn't such a threat?

 

I don't vote, but the drain the swamp speech, if I had to would have been enough for me to have to choose if I was forced. There were many good things in that speech. We can't be as doomed as it's feeling at the minute can we?

 

QAnon give the impression that people are going to be exposed very very soon. Point me in the right direction here...

 

This is going to get so so dark if something good doesn't happen soon. Gates' "the next one will get their attention" smirk the other day is enough to wonder why these wankers are being so brazen... Seriously, we all know that wry smile should be enough for him to be arrested - it's sickening to watch, and I do feel that before the end of the year we could see something actualy taking out millions, whatever it is, even if it's weakened immune systems catching up with everyone.

[Golden Retriever]

14 hours ago, Sentient Being said:

I don't believe polls for one second as I strongly believe they are composed to sway public opinion and not reflect the real mood of the people.

 

I'm also inclined to believe this:

 

 

 

Yep .... always backing both sides.

 

And one of Biden's main donors, billionaire Len Blavatnik is associated with Sir Jacob Rothschild.

Music boss Len Blavatnik named as Britain's richest man

"Born in Ukraine, raised north of Moscow, Len Blavatnik emigrated to the U.S. in 1978 for school; he studied computer science at Columbia University.

He made a fortune selling his stake in Russian oil company TNK-BP for $7 billion in 2013. He purchased Warner Music in 2011 for $3.3 billion."

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/07/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-joe-bidens-presidential-campaign/#705d03f3159e

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32464402

 

 

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/06/sir-leonid-blavatnik-sir-george.html

 

 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Golden Retriever

[rideforever]

 

Trump signs social media executive order removing protections for censorship on social media companies.

... he's completely sane and responsible, strange as it may seem.

If I see 10 more presidents in my lifetime I doubt any of them would do a single thing like this.

And let's not forget he's a New Yorker, so he just does stuff.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-social-media-companies

 

55 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

don't question or avoid anything

At the moment I am questioning whether endless criticism of the "system" either by new age anti-nwo or the marxists really means something, because after all is said and done who is going to run the schools and build the roads.  Who is able to bring about any positive change without destroying the society?
Humans are a pretty dumb species tbh, and probably a small group of diligent and quiet people are doing all the good things in the world, whilst the majority especially those who consider themselves to be intelligent spend most of their lives uselessly complaining whilst dreaming of a utopia either marxist or new age.

 

Rothschild Puppet?
Everybody in power owes something to someone.

Nobody is fully totally free, so if that's what you call trustworthy nobody is.

Demanding that kind of thing is a utopian dreams imo.

That's why I think the lineage guild system is more realistic, you have friends and traditions and you protect yourselves because nobody can be successful alone.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to owe something to someone as long as it's for the right reason.

The question is what is really motivating this group of people ... are they actually good people inside?
Do they love their parents?  Are they rational and experienced?  Are they ultimately cowardly idiots?
That's what counts.

And that's where the conspiracy diagrams of relationships between people fall down ... they make everybody look like the devil and you can put all of humanity on there. 

But then who is left to drive the ship?
 

Edited July 1, 2020 by rideforever

[Nobby Noboddy]

8 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

Trump signs social media executive order removing protections for censorship on social media companies.

... he's completely sane and responsible, strange as it may seem.

If I see 10 more presidents in my lifetime I doubt any of them would do a single thing like this.

And let's not forget he's a New Yorker, so he just does stuff.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-social-media-companies

 

At the moment I am questioning whether endless criticism of the "system" either by new age anti-nwo or the marxists really means something, because after all is said and done who is going to run the schools and build the roads.  Who is able to bring about any positive change without destroying the society?
Humans are a pretty dumb species tbh, and probably a small group of diligent and quiet people are doing all the good things in the world, whilst the majority especially those who consider themselves to be intelligent spend most of their lives uselessly complaining whilst dreaming of a utopia either marxist or new age.

 

Rothschild Puppet?
Everybody in power owes something to someone.

Nobody is fully totally free, so if that's what you call trustworthy nobody is.

Demanding that kind of thing is a utopian dreams imo.

That's why I think the lineage guild system is more realistic, you have friends and traditions and you protect yourselves because nobody can be successful alone.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to owe something to someone as long as it's for the right reason.

The question is what is really motivating this group of people ... are they actually good people inside?
Do they love their parents?  Are they rational and experienced?  Are they ultimately cowardly idiots?
That's what counts.

And that's where the conspiracy diagrams of relationships between people fall down ... they make everybody look like the devil and you can put all of humanity on there. 

But then who is left to drive the ship?
 

You are such a fucking 'negative nancy' (ponder), humans, given the right conditions are brilliant creative beings. After centuries of attack it's no wonder many are no better than cattle. However after centuries of attack there still arises something in so many. Once there are enough of us to take the initiative it will become unstoppable.

 

Forget the Tavistock buzzwords - NWO, New Age, Truther, ad-nausea. We will be free.

[rideforever]

7 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Once there are enough of us to take the initiative it will become unstoppable

I think one of you is enough.

Back in reality such empty words mean nothing and show zero understanding.

[Nobby Noboddy]

1 minute ago, rideforever said:

I think one of you is enough.

Back in reality such empty words mean nothing and show zero understanding.

troll speak

[rideforever]

Just now, Nobby Noboddy said:

troll speak

donkey speak

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

troll speak

 

19 minutes ago, rideforever said:

donkey speak

 

sounds like politics to me!

[Brad the lad]

If Trump is pro vaccine (which it is starting to look like more and more) then he is a total double agent........END OF!

I dont give a toss how many A- List celebs he  bangs up or even if he takes Clinton down because they are just canon fodder. He can pass a law where no one has to work for the rest of their life on full pay for all I care....All that matters is if he wants the vaccine or not?

 

If he is pro jab then his heads fit for the chopping board with the rest of them.