I think I might know when the 2nd wave is coming...

[Storm in the garden]

Around a month ago at the height of the scam-demic I had a hospital appointment.
There was hand sanitising and mask wearing involved (not by me!) but it went ahead.
About a week later I got a phone call from the specialist saying that they were sending out a prescription and that should solve the issue, but they would like to see me again in around four months to ensure everything is okay. They actually used the term "visual examination" in the telephone conversation.
A week later I got a letter confirming a hospital appointment for late September.

 

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying:
"Due to the ongoing Covid-19 situation clinic appointments are now being held by phone"

This makes absolutely no sense.
During a time when restrictions are being lifted they are actually going in the opposite direction. They could see me at the height of the scam-demic but in the "improving climate" can't see me? So in a period where pubs are being reopened they are cancelling future hospital appointments?

There are only two logical conclusions I can draw from this.

The 2nd pandemic is planned for September.
Most of us would have expected it to be later during the traditional flu season, but maybe they are going to use the reopening of schools as the "cause"?
Maybe they are moving "pandemic - the sequel" forward because people are returning to normality at a faster pace than they expected.

The other less likely possibility is that they are simply panicking and are using every  tool available to keep up the fear factor. It also ties in with the whole 'virtual doctor' plan they have to euthanise any portion of the masses who are unwell and a drain on the system. 
Apart from these two possibilities I can see no other reason why in a supposedly improving situation hospitals would be moving in the opposite direction.

[Truthspoon]

I heard that anyone now going into a UK hospital gets a coronvirus shot and they do not have the right to refuse it.

They have security guards to enforce this. I heard a story about it from a friend yesterday.

[Storm in the garden]

52 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

I heard that anyone now going into a UK hospital gets a coronvirus shot and they do not have the right to refuse it.

 

What is a Coronavirus shot, is it another name for the flu jab?

If their plan was to inject anyone attending hospital, would they not be encouraging hospital visits rather than cancelling hospital appointments as I've experienced?

[AndyJ]

They can plan it all they want but this so called "second wave" in the latter half of the year is going to fall flat on it's face. Too much of the truth about this scamdemic will be out by then and too many people will defy lockdowns and other limitations. They pulverized everyone with shock and a deluge of fear porn this time around but the element of surprise, a growing collective awareness and people's simple desire to return to the habits of a lifetime will over ride all the "new normal" bullshit. There are always the fearful sheeple out there who will be compliant but the tide is turning and the scenes I see around the country of people on beaches and just getting on with their lives shows there are enough out there who aren't going to buy the lies a second time.

[Storm in the garden]

3 minutes ago, AndyJ said:

They can plan it all they want but this so called "second wave" in the latter half of the year is going to fall flat on it's face. Too much of the truth about this scamdemic will be out by then and too many people will defy lockdowns and other limitations. They pulverized everyone with shock and a deluge of fear porn this time around but the element of surprise, a growing collective awareness and people's simple desire to return to the habits of a lifetime will over ride all the "new normal" bullshit. There are always the fearful sheeple out there who will be compliant but the tide is turning and the scenes I see around the country of people on beaches and just getting on with their lives shows there are enough out there who aren't going to buy the lies a second time.

 

I sincerely hope you're right. I posted on another thread where I was in two small towns in the last couple of days and my conclusion was that only around 2% were wearing masks and there essentially was no social distancing being practiced.

I only posted this thread because my experience suggests that they were going to try to bring in a second wave in September.

Whether it is successful or not depends on how many have woken up in the meantime and hopefully enough have.

[callmenuts]

1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

I heard that anyone now going into a UK hospital gets a coronvirus shot and they do not have the right to refuse it.

They have security guards to enforce this. I heard a story about it from a friend yesterday.

 

Mmm

[AndyJ]

Just now, Storm in the garden said:

 

I sincerely hope you're right. I posted on another thread where I was in two small towns in the last couple of days and my conclusion was that only around 2% were wearing masks and there essentially was no social distancing being practiced.

I only posted this thread because my experience suggests that they were going to try to bring in a second wave in September.

Whether it is successful or not depends on how many have woken up in the meantime and hopefully enough have.

 

They'll definitely try it and probably some other things by the end of the year. But I have a really positive feeling it's not going to go the cabal's way, I think they've overplayed their hand and the darkness will be exposed by the time winter comes. I think we can be positive about the tide turning and enough people moving from fear to empowerment over the coming months. 

[sickofallthebollocks]

28 minutes ago, AndyJ said:

They can plan it all they want but this so called "second wave" in the latter half of the year is going to fall flat on it's face. Too much of the truth about this scamdemic will be out by then and too many people will defy lockdowns and other limitations. They pulverized everyone with shock and a deluge of fear porn this time around but the element of surprise, a growing collective awareness and people's simple desire to return to the habits of a lifetime will over ride all the "new normal" bullshit. There are always the fearful sheeple out there who will be compliant but the tide is turning and the scenes I see around the country of people on beaches and just getting on with their lives shows there are enough out there who aren't going to buy the lies a second time.

I share your optimisism too AndyJ, I feel thst people have had enough, there's something brimming under the surface here, I am almost willing this to happen, in my heart I don't want a second wave to happen, like verybody else it's fucking killing me inside, nothing is quite right - despite what effectively has been 3 months off work, nothing 'feels' quite right, but despite not wanting a second wave to happen for the sake of normality - the other, logical side of me, wants the 2nd wave to happen, we need to see how the public and sheeples react this time around, like you Andy, I have a feeling it is 'throwing toys out of the pram' time.   Non-compliance.

I was thinking late September could be the time the dirty rotten Media ramp it all up x10 and maybe as late as mid-late October, to coincide with the natural Flu-season.
But I see what your're saying Storm, and there is much logic to it.

[Steak and cheese]

Heard that those working with Nhs arent allowed holidays till October

[Storm in the garden]

10 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

I was thinking late September could be the time the dirty rotten Media ramp it all up x10 and maybe as late as mid-late October, to coincide with the natural Flu-season.
But I see what your're saying Storm, and there is much logic to it.

 

It could well be the second possibility I gave...

It may be that MSM and things like virtue signalling at sports events is not doing enough to keep people in a state of fear and they're looking for ammo from other areas they control such as the health sector to keep it going? If that is the case then it looks to me like they are in real trouble.

I don't have very broad social connections but from what I experience people don't seem to care about any aspect of what they're saying and just want a return to normality.

But there's definitely something afoot when the health sector is tightening restrictions at the same time that the rest of society is slowly opening up.

 

[motleyhoo]

You have to remember the actual nurses, doctors and healthcare workers, many of them work in a bubble within a system that is top-down scripted, and the system is holding all of these people in meetings everyday giving them all kinds of dire predictions and exaggerating the "threat" like it's Armageddon.  Many of these people cannot see the forest for the trees because they're too close to the "action", so they do things like really believe every positive test is real Covid, and overreact because they've been filled with fear.  From the emergency management side of things it's even worse.  These people train all year for various emergencies and when nothing happens for years they get almost psychotic in their desperation for something to please happen, and then when an exaggerated fraud of a pandemic comes along, as soon as they hear the word "pandemic" they immediately set into motion like an apocalypse is about to happen, with each person having a scripted manual of each things they have to do, and once this machine of people gets rolling there is no stopping it.  The school systems are the same way, and you just follow the rules of the supervisors, who are following the rules of their supervisors, unless you want to lose your job.  It's almost like a comedy movie or Bennie Hill skit how the system works, turning people into mindless cogs.

[Given To Fly]

10 minutes ago, motleyhoo said:

You have to remember the actual nurses, doctors and healthcare workers, many of them work in a bubble within a system that is top-down scripted, and the system is holding all of these people in meetings everyday giving them all kinds of dire predictions and exaggerating the "threat" like it's Armageddon.  Many of these people cannot see the forest for the trees because they're too close to the "action", so they do things like really believe every positive test is real Covid, and overreact because they've been filled with fear.  From the emergency management side of things it's even worse.  These people train all year for various emergencies and when nothing happens for years they get almost psychotic in their desperation for something to please happen, and then when an exaggerated fraud of a pandemic comes along, as soon as they hear the word "pandemic" they immediately set into motion like an apocalypse is about to happen, with each person having a scripted manual of each things they have to do, and once this machine of people gets rolling there is no stopping it.  The school systems are the same way, and you just follow the rules of the supervisors, who are following the rules of their supervisors, unless you want to lose your job.  It's almost like a comedy movie or Bennie Hill skit how the system works, turning people into mindless cogs.

 

and when they're being hero-worshipped why would they want to be critical or go outside that box.

it's the same with vaccines, because they (NHS etc) are being lauded as heroes who's going to really question them if they promote mandatory vaccines.

[Storm in the garden]

57 minutes ago, motleyhoo said:

You have to remember the actual nurses, doctors and healthcare workers, many of them work in a bubble within a system that is top-down scripted, and the system is holding all of these people in meetings everyday giving them all kinds of dire predictions and exaggerating the "threat" like it's Armageddon.  Many of these people cannot see the forest for the trees because they're too close to the "action", so they do things like really believe every positive test is real Covid, and overreact because they've been filled with fear.  From the emergency management side of things it's even worse.  These people train all year for various emergencies and when nothing happens for years they get almost psychotic in their desperation for something to please happen, and then when an exaggerated fraud of a pandemic comes along, as soon as they hear the word "pandemic" they immediately set into motion like an apocalypse is about to happen, with each person having a scripted manual of each things they have to do, and once this machine of people gets rolling there is no stopping it.  The school systems are the same way, and you just follow the rules of the supervisors, who are following the rules of their supervisors, unless you want to lose your job.  It's almost like a comedy movie or Bennie Hill skit how the system works, turning people into mindless cogs.

 

 

I hear what you're saying motleyhoo, but I think it comes from a much higher authority than just nurses and doctors.

They just do what they're told, and somebody made a decision against all logic to switch from dealing with hospital appointments during the height of the pandemic to not dealing with them when everywhere else is opening up to some form of normality. Nobody on the "coalface" or anywhere remotely near to it made that decision, which is an inversion of common sense.

And we know from previous experience in the way that this whole shamdemic quickly became a global issue is that the hospital director and the politician does what the surgeon general says and he does what the WHO says which does what Gates says. 

[Rolandson]

Could be in September. Now people go on vacation, you don't have to wear a mask when you go shopping  (I never did anyway, the attest is worth like gold I tell you),

Then it is back because we were not careful enough.

[Rolandson]

4 doctors I talked about don't believe it. Sure there are many who believe this corona thing but there are also a lot of doctors who do not believe it. They can't say this in public because they would lose their jobs.

[shadowmoon]

3 hours ago, AndyJ said:

They pulverized everyone with shock and a deluge of fear porn this time around.

 

This is exactly right.

As the old saying goes " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

[chocomel]

The first time you will hear a piece of news saying "an increase in Covid yada yada yada", the beginning.

[Captainlove]

I still know some staff at my local hospital who have said they are gearing up for another wave. I use to be a medical professional so i understand some things. I don't believe a flu can have a second wave, yes it can mutate but they generally mutate weaker. I know there is no vaccines  being given to staff or patients at present at my local hospital all they are doing is a test and swab. If something happens it will be manmade not a natural flu. As the above posters have said i think alot of people are waking up and will not fall for it again,but i see the BBC and MSM ramping the fear mongering already. There are still a few fearful people around and mask wearing is about 1 in 10 people in my area.Social distancing is mostly being ignored as people tend to keep there own space as they have always done. I think there's great hope if everyone stays on there game and keeps spreading the word that this is not as bad as the goverment claims.

[Storm in the garden]

47 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

I still know some staff at my local hospital who have said they are gearing up for another wave. I use to be a medical professional so i understand some things. I don't believe a flu can have a second wave, yes it can mutate but they generally mutate weaker. I know there is no vaccines  being given to staff or patients at present at my local hospital all they are doing is a test and swab. If something happens it will be manmade not a natural flu. As the above posters have said i think alot of people are waking up and will not fall for it again,but i see the BBC and MSM ramping the fear mongering already. There are still a few fearful people around and mask wearing is about 1 in 10 people in my area.Social distancing is mostly being ignored as people tend to keep there own space as they have always done. I think there's great hope if everyone stays on there game and keeps spreading the word that this is not as bad as the goverment claims.

 

Spread the word.....not the virus 

[Michi713]

9 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

You have to remember the actual nurses, doctors and healthcare workers, many of them work in a bubble within a system that is top-down scripted, and the system is holding all of these people in meetings everyday giving them all kinds of dire predictions and exaggerating the "threat" like it's Armageddon.  Many of these people cannot see the forest for the trees because they're too close to the "action", so they do things like really believe every positive test is real Covid, and overreact because they've been filled with fear.  From the emergency management side of things it's even worse.  These people train all year for various emergencies and when nothing happens for years they get almost psychotic in their desperation for something to please happen, and then when an exaggerated fraud of a pandemic comes along, as soon as they hear the word "pandemic" they immediately set into motion like an apocalypse is about to happen, with each person having a scripted manual of each things they have to do, and once this machine of people gets rolling there is no stopping it.  The school systems are the same way, and you just follow the rules of the supervisors, who are following the rules of their supervisors, unless you want to lose your job.  It's almost like a comedy movie or Bennie Hill skit how the system works, turning people into mindless cogs.

 

So true.  In fact, not only the healthcare, school, and emergency professionals, but our insane State and city governments are drooling for another chance to break the public.  And break them they will.  

 

This summer they are letting the sheep out to pasture.  They will be herded into the barn again come fall, just in time for the election (by mail).  They are already ramping up propaganda.  “Covid affects the entire body system, causes blood clots, can be passed without symptoms, etc.”
 

After witnessing the complete fear-based  obedience of almost everyone in the first go round I have no doubt they will be switched on and off at the elite’s will, whenever they want.  Lockdowns, riots, rinse and repeat. 
 

 I agree there is probably something in September, as it coincides with esoteric numbers, timed to the next equinox, and coincides with the rolling out of 5G.

[Grumpy Owl]

I have no doubt that there is a 'second wave' in the offing, you only have to look through the clickbait 'warnings' being presented in the media.

 

The thing is that viruses do not come in 'waves', first, second or whatever.

 

The people who diligently follow the government 'guidelines' and absorb all the fear-porn spouted by the mainstream media are already primed and willing a 'second-wave' to happen.

 

"All those idiots going to the beach, that's how it will come back again!"

 

"Our children aren't safe, we can't expect them to go back to school in September, or there'll be a second wave"

 

"People not wearing masks on public transport, its NOT SAFE, there'll be another wave of this!"

 

And then of course we have all the protestors doing their thing and "NOT OBSERVING SOCIAL DISTANCING!!!" but that's not a problem because BLACK LIVES MATTER.

 

Meanwhile the 'symptoms of Covid-19' are being expanded further to include all symptoms associated with many minor illnesses.

 

Here in the northern hemisphere, it is almost the height of summer now, and people are going to start suffering from pollen / hay-fever allergies. OMG YOU HAVE COVID-19!!!

 

If enough people WANT a second-wave of this bullshit to occur, then a second-wave IS going to happen.

[motleyhoo]

10 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

 

I hear what you're saying motleyhoo, but I think it comes from a much higher authority than just nurses and doctors.

They just do what they're told, and somebody made a decision against all logic to switch from dealing with hospital appointments during the height of the pandemic to not dealing with them when everywhere else is opening up to some form of normality. Nobody on the "coalface" or anywhere remotely near to it made that decision, which is an inversion of common sense.

And we know from previous experience in the way that this whole shamdemic quickly became a global issue is that the hospital director and the politician does what the surgeon general says and he does what the WHO says which does what Gates says. 

 

That's what I am saying.  They are in a system where you do what you are told and you trust the system.  All of these people trust the system because at a personal level the system has not given them a reason not to.   So, when a global emergency is declared (even if it's fake), they pull out the special manual for super emergencies and all hell breaks loose.  None of them have the mindset to ask questions because they're too embedded within the muck to see what we see from the outside.  And any of them that is awake enough to see what's happening, they all know if you speak up you're going to get fired.

[Dagmar Gross]

David and other investigators have spoken about September too. Well, autumn, but that is September too. Yes, I agree with you about them having to speed things up if they want to get their way. I just hope, as you and others have expressed here, that by then enough people will be aware of what is going on. Yes, we have a couple of months more to spread the message to as many people as we can and then we can only cross our fingers... God and the Light Beings are fighting this too. Have you read the article on how the face-recognition technology has hit a sufficiently big hitch in the US for the developers to have stopped it for now? They confused criminals with members of Congress!

And in Britain, we have had the security hitch with the contact-tracing app. So, all good so far!

[Brad the lad]

38 minutes ago, motleyhoo said:

 

That's what I am saying.  They are in a system where you do what you are told and you trust the system.  All of these people trust the system because at a personal level the system has not given them a reason not to.   So, when a global emergency is declared (even if it's fake), they pull out the special manual for super emergencies and all hell breaks loose.  None of them have the mindset to ask questions because they're too embedded within the muck to see what we see from the outside.  And any of them that is awake enough to see what's happening, they all know if you speak up you're going to get fired.

 

After hearing me rant (putting it very politely) at the hospital at 2am, I once had a young nurse with all good intentions come into the hospital room I was in and give me a lecture about how important vaccinations were and how there was a sharp climb in measels throughout the country recently. She insisted that lots of children were dying daily of measels and the only way to get a grip of the problem was through the MMR jab.By this time I had calmed down and  I asked her how she knew this infomation. She said everyone had recently attended a course and spent the entire day learning (being brainwashed) about the dangers of parents opting out. It was a great day out she told me. Everything layed on and she had to pay for nothing (there's a name for that I said ....bribery).

 

I asked her  " Has she or anyone else she knew of in the hospital (one of the largest in the UK)  witnessed any children dying from measels?"

"NO" She replied.

She couldn't understand the problem that she was a nurse in a huge hospital and had not heard of any cases but still believes the video footage on the course!

"Well if you aint seen them then who has?" I said.

 

Loads of the NHS staff are nothing more than good willed lemmings at best and the ones who are in the know and turn a blind eye need charging......Don't forget to clap though!

Edited June 27, 2020 by Brad the lad

[Alnitak]

Im also thinking its late September and agree with all of you that have said that. As the deep state will want something well in play in the USA around then to try to bring in vote by mail. It would be their last chance by then, However more and more stats are coming out and more truths about this scamdemic. The schools going back will be blamed so that they have the narrative to vaccinate the children. At the moment they dont have a leg to stand on with kids getting it, they will use kids spreading it.

 

In the meantime more and more stuff is coming to light and i am also feeling positive even against our odds. Simon Dolans court case begins in the UK on the 2nd July and i think a lot of stuff will come out as a result of that.Including the fact that the media were being instructed to ramp up the fear and manipulating peoples minds and behaviours,

 

 We need to avert the re lock down option. Our tracking app wont work anytime soon and i dont think the people here are going to be co-operative for a second nationwide lock down. There are still around 8 million people on furlough of which millions are going to lose their jobs as it is.

 

The mood of the nation is not conductive and only those with underlying conditions or people who have family members die that was marked at CV are going to co-operate again. That leaves a huge percentage who arent going to be willing. I think the future is looking brighter #nomorelockdowns #normalnow