Fatigued

[shadowmoon]

I'd like a caravan in the woods for a month or two far away from everyone.

However the diy craze by the neighbours seems to have died here, even jetwashing their driveway has stopped.

[rideforever]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

I'm in a group on Discord with over 600 people o

 

I have been on the mailing list of various off grid angling groups for a few years but I don't know how many get it together, may be simply better to jump onto an existing one there are quite a few on   ic.org.

What I see is the same thing I would notice when there were all those property programmes on TV in the 90s/00s ... those people didn't want a house or a place to live they wanted a struggle they wanted to choose wallpaper and by the time it was all done and in their house they were bored to death.  I even saw one guy who was a developer he had bought a massive plot in Brighton and he packed in his already very nice period property to build this monster sized house and it all went wrong and he had a quadrupple bipass and then finally the monster was built and it was so big that it didn't feel nice, it was like a sofa in the middle of a field type big.
And he'd been better off keeping it simple.

There are lots of places in Canada as well.

I have been to a few communities/ ashrams and so on for a 1 month per time, in Denmark, India, UK ... and in a few months I will try a few more of the homesteading farming type I think.

There are some in Portugal also which I think is a bit cheaper than the rest of the EU.

 

[kj35]

18 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

I have been on the mailing list of various off grid angling groups for a few years but I don't know how many get it together, may be simply better to jump onto an existing one there are quite a few on   ic.org.

What I see is the same thing I would notice when there were all those property programmes on TV in the 90s/00s ... those people didn't want a house or a place to live they wanted a struggle they wanted to choose wallpaper and by the time it was all done and in their house they were bored to death.  I even saw one guy who was a developer he had bought a massive plot in Brighton and he packed in his already very nice period property to build this monster sized house and it all went wrong and he had a quadrupple bipass and then finally the monster was built and it was so big that it didn't feel nice, it was like a sofa in the middle of a field type big.
And he'd been better off keeping it simple.

There are lots of places in Canada as well.

I have been to a few communities/ ashrams and so on for a 1 month per time, in Denmark, India, UK ... and in a few months I will try a few more of the homesteading farming type I think.

There are some in Portugal also which I think is a bit cheaper than the rest of the EU.

 

I agree. You just need what you need. Any more clutters your mind and soul imo.I'm currently living in a very large house and I really want to sell it husband understandably would prefer to keep it as an investment . One thing we're both sure of is we dont need all this space you just end up cleaning or decorating or cluttering it for your whole life and not living.We are looking at maybe renting it and living off the income. Small finca lots of land ..Good water supplies.  Perfection.

Edited June 27, 2020 by kj35

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

20 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

India/Nepal or some really poor country seems the easiest and least hassle option in general.

 

Bloodthirsty bandits would slit your throat eat to ear and have away with all your valuables before sunrise.

[chocomel]

Cheers kj.

Have not found a cave house but this undeveloped land for 60K Euro. Building a community MAY be possible.

 

But I think it is better to be happy with what you've got now.

 

There is nothing wrong with moving and if you are getting old and wanting to move to a warmer location for retirement etc..... who is to say....

Having said this, it's like this.

A prisoner wishes that he could be so happy if he could go down the pub and have just one pint of beer. But he can't. (unhappy and frustrated) Familiar?

Finally, he's done his time and the first thing he does is to go down his local to greet with friends and have a jolly pint.

Yeah, that made him very happy but after a short while, the new life sinks in. In prison, he couldn't have freedom and everything was provided for.

He gets out and now he needs to think about how to make ends meet in a new environment. Then comes new problems of the outside world....whatever that may be.

He can go on complaining inside as well as outside and he'll never be happy.

 

The point that I am making to this relocation thread is that we all think the grass is greener elsewhere but once you settle there, you'll start to see local problems or even encouter the same kind of problems you have nowthen you are back to square one. You have all moved once or twice in your life? Isn't this the case? You had high hopes for your new home and look where you are now. My teacher is mega-rich that he'll never have to work in his life yet he tells us that he still have problems and it never goes away even if you are wealthy. It could be that he receives a complaint from customers, if it isn't that then may be the tax office will give him a hard time etc.... He also says that appreciate all that has been given to you. You know why? Because if you appreciate, you will attract favourable situation but complain...you'll get more of complaint. If you understand the law, fortune/happiness AND misfortune/difficulties/unhappiness are a set! So often you hear that lottery winner lost it all. On the other hand, someone who had a hardship for many years finally turned his/her life around that they've reached the Satori level and now a happy, positive and changed person who don't see problems as such. Crisis IS the only opportunity if you understand mechanics of both sides of the coin. It goes in waves. So if you have had a great fortune, you have make sure you deliberately lose some so that the universe won't take it away from you since you are actively creating losses to fit the law. This is how celebs do. They create crisis just before a release of a new album etc.

 

So with that being said, I hope that we can all master how to ride the rough waves and be happy wherever we go, whatever happens.

 

 

[chocomel]

23 minutes ago, kj35 said:

there are quite a few on   ic.org

 

Looking by the article here it appears that they are also brainwashed re: BLM.....so you escape to a community and your new neighbour believes that the police killed him.....

[chocomel]

4 hours ago, kj35 said:

Cave houses go for as little as 20 euro. Spain has agreed to protect its UK homeowners. You have to apply to the Spanish consulate for a NIE number. I already have one house out there . Am considering buying another in the mountain but I'd have to sell UK home to do that.

 

If anyone is interested here is a guide.

https://suitelife.com/blog/barcelona-real-estate/how-to-get-a-spanish-nie-number-its-kind-of-a-big-deal/

 

[kj35]

Also check out spanish-inland-properties.com

 

 

And as OP says Portugal is good and they've put in fantastic 10 year tax free deals for UK people moving there

Edited June 27, 2020 by kj35

[kj35]

2 minutes ago, chocomel said:

 

If anyone is interested here is a guide.

https://suitelife.com/blog/barcelona-real-estate/how-to-get-a-spanish-nie-number-its-kind-of-a-big-deal/

 

You will need to have a house or province in mind.  You make an appointment at the consulate and queue. Took a couple of hours queuing even though I had a set time and then a bossy officious woman told us off for half an hour then stamped our papers and sent us on our way. It's probably easier just to do it in Spain. Our solicitor took us to a bank to set up an account pretty sure they'd have helped us bypass the nie officials too.

Edited June 27, 2020 by kj35

[chocomel]

1 minute ago, kj35 said:

You will

 

Wow you've been studying. Cheers kj.

Will see how it pans out in the future.

[kj35]

Just now, chocomel said:

 

Wow you've been studying. Cheers kj.

Will see how it pans out in the future.

Was just seeing if it would post sorry have edited in my full response:-)

[kj35]

1 minute ago, chocomel said:

 

Wow you've been studying. Cheers kj.

Will see how it pans out in the future.

And I've already done it :-) we are considering a second house out there but it is a bit wishful thinking at the minute. So we can rent out our current one.

[chocomel]

Just now, kj35 said:

And I've already done it :-) we are considering a second house out there but it is a bit wishful thinking at the minute. So we can rent out our current one.

 

Your OH permitting.... I don't think it's a wishful thinking at all.

You could AirBnB it if you are not there and that's your passive income. You'd need a maintenance company who would do cleaning, hand over the keys etc.

In the UK, they seems to be used for prostitutes and for dodgy parties though.

[Grumpy Owl]

18 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

The Cardigan Bay area of Wales is gorgeous and not over-priced. That's where I'd go.

 

I camped on Shell Island a couple of years back (though I've been to other areas of Wales from being little, and just like the natural energies there) and fell in love with it. There are dolphins and seals to be seen in the bay, and a raw, natural beauty is there to be freely revelled in. Mount Snowdon is magical. 

 

 

I stayed in a caravan in Borth, near Aberystwyth, last summer. Only for a week, and I invited my sister and her boyfriend along.

 

Me and sister hadn't been there since a family holiday when we were children. Loved the place, proper quiet little seaside village, not a lot going on there, but that suits me to the ground.

 

I've given myself a dream of owning one of the houses along the main road with a sea view. Now I just need a lottery win to pay for it.

 

 

[kj35]

28 minutes ago, chocomel said:

 

Your OH permitting.... I don't think it's a wishful thinking at all.

You could AirBnB it if you are not there and that's your passive income. You'd need a maintenance company who would do cleaning, hand over the keys etc.

In the UK, they seems to be used for prostitutes and for dodgy parties though.

It's my home and I love it so don't want too. But if it's our only way to freedom...then ok. 

 

My other half is a fantastic human and living with someone means compromise. :-) And actually he's right we just need to work out what is the best for everyone.

[kj35]

31 minutes ago, chocomel said:

 used for prostitutes and for dodgy parties though.

Sounds fun 

[Tinfoil Hat]

18 hours ago, chocomel said:

 

I was once thinking of moving over to Cardiff but was told it rained all the time..... put me off.

Also I heard that Welsh people are funny with outsiders.... and I mean not foreigners but even towards English people.

 

Yes, some are. That type will start speaking to each other in Welsh, in the presence of 'outsiders', while flashing you disapproving looks. 

[Tinfoil Hat]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I stayed in a caravan in Borth, near Aberystwyth, last summer. Only for a week, and I invited my sister and her boyfriend along.

 

Me and sister hadn't been there since a family holiday when we were children. Loved the place, proper quiet little seaside village, not a lot going on there, but that suits me to the ground.

 

I've given myself a dream of owning one of the houses along the main road with a sea view. Now I just need a lottery win to pay for it.

 

 

 

It would be a great place to take up painting.  If I win the jackpot, I'll but a house there and let you stay as long as you like. 

[sam]

22 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

The Cardigan Bay area of Wales is gorgeous and not over-priced. That's where I'd go.

 

I camped on Shell Island a couple of years back (though I've been to other areas of Wales from being little, and just like the natural energies there) and fell in love with it. There are dolphins and seals to be seen in the bay, and a raw, natural beauty is there to be freely revelled in. Mount Snowdon is magical. 

 

Sorry you are feeling fatigued. I can identify with that, and it's not good, so hope you feel refreshed & invigorated soon.

I have camped at shell island ❤ loved it 

[kj35]

4 hours ago, chocomel said:

 

Looking by the article here it appears that they are also brainwashed re: BLM.....so you escape to a community and your new neighbour believes that the police killed him.....

I didn't write that quote ...The ic.org one I did start a quote  that said look at spanish-inland-properties.com 

 

But it didn't post right

Edited June 27, 2020 by kj35

[Grumpy Owl]

4 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I stayed in a caravan in Borth, near Aberystwyth, last summer. Only for a week, and I invited my sister and her boyfriend along.

 

Me and sister hadn't been there since a family holiday when we were children. Loved the place, proper quiet little seaside village, not a lot going on there, but that suits me to the ground.

 

I've given myself a dream of owning one of the houses along the main road with a sea view. Now I just need a lottery win to pay for it.

 

 

 

The more I think about this, I don't know what it is, but I do feel a certain 'affinity' towards Wales.

 

While we were sitting on the promenade last year in Aberystwyth, I remarked to my sisters boyfriend how much I felt like I 'belonged' there.

 

And I now do recall a feeling, that whenever I've 'crossed the border' into Wales previously, I've felt like I was 'home', or where I needed to be.

 

It is strange, because having had our family ancestory traced, we don't seem to have any Welsh connection. But then again, our family ancestory only goes back so far. Who knows what is really buried within my DNA!

[kj35]

1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

The more I think about this, I don't know what it is, but I do feel a certain 'affinity' towards Wales.

 

While we were sitting on the promenade last year in Aberystwyth, I remarked to my sisters boyfriend how much I felt like I 'belonged' there.

 

And I now do recall a feeling, that whenever I've 'crossed the border' into Wales previously, I've felt like I was 'home', or where I needed to be.

 

It is strange, because having had our family ancestory traced, we don't seem to have any Welsh connection. But then again, our family ancestory only goes back so far. Who knows what is really buried within my DNA!

They're just Celts. Like Scottish or Irish or Cornish. 

[Tinfoil Hat]

10 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

The more I think about this, I don't know what it is, but I do feel a certain 'affinity' towards Wales.

 

While we were sitting on the promenade last year in Aberystwyth, I remarked to my sisters boyfriend how much I felt like I 'belonged' there.

 

And I now do recall a feeling, that whenever I've 'crossed the border' into Wales previously, I've felt like I was 'home', or where I needed to be.

 

It is strange, because having had our family ancestory traced, we don't seem to have any Welsh connection. But then again, our family ancestory only goes back so far. Who knows what is really buried within my DNA!

 

Maybe you are a descendant of the great Pendragons.

 

My other favourite place for relaxing is Polperro in Cornwall. That area has links to Arthurian legend too. 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Tinfoil Hat
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[Alex]

6 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

I have been on the mailing list of various off grid angling groups for a few years but I don't know how many get it together, may be simply better to jump onto an existing one there are quite a few on   ic.org.

What I see is the same thing I would notice when there were all those property programmes on TV in the 90s/00s ... those people didn't want a house or a place to live they wanted a struggle they wanted to choose wallpaper and by the time it was all done and in their house they were bored to death.  I even saw one guy who was a developer he had bought a massive plot in Brighton and he packed in his already very nice period property to build this monster sized house and it all went wrong and he had a quadrupple bipass and then finally the monster was built and it was so big that it didn't feel nice, it was like a sofa in the middle of a field type big.
And he'd been better off keeping it simple.

There are lots of places in Canada as well.

I have been to a few communities/ ashrams and so on for a 1 month per time, in Denmark, India, UK ... and in a few months I will try a few more of the homesteading farming type I think.

There are some in Portugal also which I think is a bit cheaper than the rest of the EU.

 

 

Honestly without been too dramatic I see the only way out of this is by heading off grid in a new community ect because on the grid we havent got a chance. The majority will go along with it all just like they always have done in the past. It makes more of a statement  a load of people living a total new way all away from the system. Not enough people are going to wake up in time for this vaccine to come in which for us lot who refuse it our lives here will be made hell

[Dagmar Gross]

There are many abandoned villages in the mountains of northern Spain. It would probably take some DIY to get a house fully habitable again, but these places are hours away from other humans! And in some of them some people have already installed themselves again, so who knows? Perhaps you might find a suitable community of people seeking the quiet too there?

Here's a little introduction which might lead you to somewhere? https://www.sensacionrural.es/blog/pueblos-abandonados-encanto-espana/