Greenhulk50 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I live in the UK , when this bullshit Vaccine is available, will it be mandatory and will you tell them to fuck off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 england is a common law country, the people are above the government so it would be the destruction of the english way of life if a mandatory vaccination was introduced at this point... all bets are off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 It might not be mandatory in the traditional sense. The way they're using corporations to push mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing and temperature taking, my guess is, they're going to create some kind of vaccine passport card that you'll need to get into some restaurants, sporting events, movie theaters, concerts and other places. I don't believe they will be able to make this happen unless they can get us to believe in a 2nd wave. They need to make it look like the disease is year-long and permanent and deadly. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 probably not-however that's not saying if you need to go from A-B or attend events only those vaccinated will be able to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, motleyhoo said: It might not be mandatory in the traditional sense. The way they're using corporations to push mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing and temperature taking, my guess is, they're going to create some kind of vaccine passport card that you'll need to get into some restaurants, sporting events, movie theaters, concerts and other places. I don't believe they will be able to make this happen unless they can get us to believe in a 2nd wave. They need to make it look like the disease is year-long and permanent and deadly. Chris Whitty mentioned that he will not be surprised if this is here till spring next year, they will prolong it, just tightly squeeze, let go, squeeze let go till we are all submissive to the vaccine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Anyone that tries to forcibly inject me against my will gets hurt badly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sit down, Waldo Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 How many queue up for the flu jab every October?...& how many of those ask what's in it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Tansell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 6:08 PM, Sit down, Waldo said: How many queue up for the flu jab every October?...& how many of those ask what's in it? My doctor said to me a few years ago when I was there with my sciatica 'you might as well have the flu jab whilst you're here old chap'! I said 'sorry Richard, no offence, but you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine'! He said 'I'm only trying to prolong your health and wellbeing old chap'! I said 'how? by filling me with all sorts of shit that gets changed every single year when they bring out the new and improved flu jab?' He never denied the accusation and I never had the jab, he's never mentioned it since on the very rare occasions that I've been to his surgery! In fact, the last time we met he came into the reception area and said 'Steve Tansell? and I stood up and followed him into his room and he said jokingly 'I wasn't sure what you looked like, have a guess how long it is since I saw you'? I said 'about eight or nine months I suppose' He said let's try three years, shall we'? He then tried 'if you keep ignoring my requests to see you for a check up, then I might just have to ask you to find a different practice'! He's a nice enough bloke with a decent sense of humour, but he seemed to have mislaid it when I said ' O.K. fair enough Richard, I'll let you know where to send my records when I'm sorted with a new practice' I then walked out and within the week had signed on with a surgery just local to my house, and they've never mentioned the jab either, so I suppose it must be written into my records somewhere! My kids are all adults now and none of them had any of those 'must have' vaccinations when they were young, six kids, now adults, and every one of them healthy and mentally stable, as far as I know anyway! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesthepost Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 5:08 AM, Sit down, Waldo said: How many queue up for the flu jab every October?...& how many of those ask what's in it? Billions; none. After this fiasco, including blm bs, I have no illusions that the greater mass of humans are unknowing, uncaring and so self absorbed that if the truth of what is really going on was now shouted out by all the liars that got us into this, they still wouldn’t believe it. Im not saying they’re awful people, just what I said above. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenheart Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I will never have it. NEVER. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 2:05 AM, Steven Tansell said: My doctor said to me a few years ago when I was there with my sciatica 'you might as well have the flu jab whilst you're here old chap'! I said 'sorry Richard, no offence, but you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine'! He said 'I'm only trying to prolong your health and wellbeing old chap'! I said 'how? by filling me with all sorts of shit that gets changed every single year when they bring out the new and improved flu jab?' He never denied the accusation and I never had the jab, he's never mentioned it since on the very rare occasions that I've been to his surgery! In fact, the last time we met he came into the reception area and said 'Steve Tansell? and I stood up and followed him into his room and he said jokingly 'I wasn't sure what you looked like, have a guess how long it is since I saw you'? I said 'about eight or nine months I suppose' He said let's try three years, shall we'? He then tried 'if you keep ignoring my requests to see you for a check up, then I might just have to ask you to find a different practice'! He's a nice enough bloke with a decent sense of humour, but he seemed to have mislaid it when I said ' O.K. fair enough Richard, I'll let you know where to send my records when I'm sorted with a new practice' I then walked out and within the week had signed on with a surgery just local to my house, and they've never mentioned the jab either, so I suppose it must be written into my records somewhere! My kids are all adults now and none of them had any of those 'must have' vaccinations when they were young, six kids, now adults, and every one of them healthy and mentally stable, as far as I know anyway! They get paid for every vaccine they inject. Do they see the elderly and see £ not people ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, shadowmoon said: They get paid for every vaccine they inject. How much ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, alexa said: How much ? P8 Nov 2017 · This means practices missed out on funding potentially worth up to £9.3m, as they are paid £9.80 per dose given under the influenza vaccine DES, while pharmacists are paid £7.64 plus a £1.50 fees https://www.gponline.com/gps-miss-funding-data-reveal-pharmacies-delivered-1m-flu-jabs-last-year/infections-and-infestations/infections-and-infestations/article/1449580 It wants you to register to read the blurb. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 UK is ramping social pressure to have the ineffective flu vaccine: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8553513/Free-flu-jabs-offered-30M-people-UK-year-bid-relieve-pressure-NHS.html Fortunately I won't be offered this as I am not 50. Though the kids may be threatened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Also a number of studies pointing out that the flu vaccine doesn't prevent hospitalisation amongst the elderly. The response being to give it to even more people. https://acpinternist.org/weekly/archives/2020/03/03/2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Its possible it will be made mandatory but it's far more likely they will introduce a lot of restrictions to those who decline it so it wont be mandatory but you cant travel work proper ect without it. ITV brought it up as have other media outlets and thankfully it got a major pushback even by a lot of pro vaxxers but the second wave may change it somewhat. We will have to wait and see I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I just wanted to add something here about today's article on this site about Johnson calling anti-vaxxers "nuts". Well, I have recently found a quote by the late Professor Stephen Hawking that fits the bill here: "The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people". Isn't that a wonderful verbal grenade to throw at some either ignorant fool or with vested interests in a given topic who insults you?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 AstraZeneca, it would appear, has been guaranteed by the UK government that any coronavirus vaccine it develops with Oxford University will be accepted without testing for long term side effects. Hence why it has started to manufacture the vaccine, even before it has been approved, so that there will be a "stockpile". I understand that freedom of information requests have been issued to Oxford University asking for all communications between Oxford University, AstraZeneca and other Institutes regarding the vaccine development. All FOI requests have been refused by Oxford University - I assume the matter will be taken up with the Information Commisioners Office. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/communications_between_oxford_un_2 https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/communications_between_oxford_un#incoming-1594209 https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_university_of_oxfords_commun#incoming-1594208 https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/agreements_between_oxford_univer_2#incoming-1594210 It has now been revealed that AstraZeneca will also be exempt from any liability for harm the coronavirus vaccine causes. This is completely unethical and very dangerous. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability-idUSKCN24V2EN AstraZeneca to be exempt from coronavirus vaccine liability claims in most countries Quote AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability claims related to its COVID-19 vaccine hopeful by most of the countries with which it has struck supply agreements. With 25 companies testing their vaccine candidates on humans and getting ready to immunise hundred millions of people once the products are shown to work, the question of who pays for any claims for damages in case of side effects has been a tricky point in supply negotiations. “This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters. “In the contracts we have in place, we are asking for indemnification. For most countries it is acceptable to take that risk on their shoulders because it is in their national interest,” he said, adding that Astra and regulators were making safety and tolerability a top priority. Dobber would not name the countries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: AstraZeneca, it would appear, has been guaranteed by the UK government that any coronavirus vaccine it develops with Oxford University will be accepted without testing for long term side effects. Hence why it has started to manufacture the vaccine, even before it has been approved, so that there will be a "stockpile". Thank you for the information and links. What is really bad is it is not a guarantee by the UK government, but it is the UK tax payer that is the guarantor. The UK government and those within it are insulated from any liabilites. If the manufacturer is excempted from damage claims this only strengthens the case for not taking the vaccine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyprusAvenue Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 7:45 PM, shadowmoon said: P8 Nov 2017 · This means practices missed out on funding potentially worth up to £9.3m, as they are paid £9.80 per dose given under the influenza vaccine DES, while pharmacists are paid £7.64 plus a £1.50 fees https://www.gponline.com/gps-miss-funding-data-reveal-pharmacies-delivered-1m-flu-jabs-last-year/infections-and-infestations/infections-and-infestations/article/1449580 It wants you to register to read the blurb. @shadowmoon currently GP Practices receive £10.06 for each routine and annual vaccine. Remember, each Practice is a business. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, CyprusAvenue said: @shadowmoon currently GP Practices receive £10.06 for each routine and annual vaccine. Remember, each Practice is a business. I had a surgeon operating on me 15 years ago, I could not have met a nicer man, after years of being dicked around by gp's I had to demand to see a specialist. My family doctor quit this year, she was a good one too, The rest of them just Google symptoms and anyone could do that..5 years of study to do that? Thoughts of money must be why they are shilling for the vaccination like that awful cow Sarah Jarvis . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miseducation Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 4:06 PM, Greenhulk50 said: I live in the UK , when this bullshit Vaccine is available, will it be mandatory and will you tell them to fuck off I also live in the UK and I fear that they will force people to have it by making it illegal to work with others or go to public places unless you can prove you've had the vaccine. I will not take the vaccine, nor will my partner as we believe it will make us infertile. However I work as a primary school teacher and I love my job. I would hate to lose it because I refuse to inject my body with god-knows-what in order to protect myself against a non-lethal (I'm in my late 20s and healthy) "virus" which hasn't even been isolated. The question is, what can I do about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Tansell Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) On 7/23/2020 at 7:36 PM, alexa said: How much ? I think they don't get as much as a hired hitman, but they're still as deadly, it's just not as fast a death as a well aimed bullet, and meanwhile, big pharma can make a few more million quid try to 'cure' you! Win Win for them, again! Christmas comes early, in fact, every day, for them! Edited August 1, 2020 by Steven Tansell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Miseducation said: However I work as a primary school teacher and I love my job. I would hate to lose it because I refuse to inject my body with god-knows-what in order to protect myself against a non-lethal (I'm in my late 20s and healthy) "virus" which hasn't even been isolated. The question is, what can I do about it? Can I ask how long you've worked in this job? Are you familiar with the organisation "Common Purpose" or are you aware of anyone you work with who is? Have you ever been invited to join a CP 'training programme'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miseducation Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: Can I ask how long you've worked in this job? Are you familiar with the organisation "Common Purpose" or are you aware of anyone you work with who is? Have you ever been invited to join a CP 'training programme'? I've worked in that school for a year but I have been working in primary education since 2017. I have never heard of that organisation but it may be because I am fairly junior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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