"Peace" is Slavery

[pi3141]

13 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

The Khazars are behind the protocols of the learned elders of zion, again explained in the book.

 

The SSL on bristolgroup.org.uk is fixed now.

 

Ok cheers. 

 

I'm dubious about the protocols. Even Douglas Reed who was accused of being Anti- Semetic doubted their authenticity in 'The Controversy of Zion'

 

He wrote a very interesting series of books at the time of WW2 and was a Times reporter if I remember correctly. He was definitely a newspaper or journal reporter at the time of WW2.

 

Most historians doubt their authenticity and so did William Cooper I think. It is uncanny how the predictions seem to be coming true, however its notable that many Christians are working toward and hoping for the end times. I think any Jews involved in the NWO are actually, primarily, Satanic and those that are not in the know are useful idiots un aware of their role in the grand plan. Religous zealots like some Christians, brainwashed by TPTB.

[pi3141]

@rideforever - do you believe in the Protocols Of The Elders and the Jewish Conspiracy to?

[Heavenman]

18 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

@rideforever - do you believe in the Protocols Of The Elders and the Jewish Conspiracy to?

Conspiracy?. 

[Heavenman]

 

[pi3141]

27 minutes ago, Heavenman said:

Conspiracy?. 

 

Yes? It seems obvious from the last few posts that Nobby Noboddy believes there to be a Jewish Conspiracy.

 

I'm wondering if RideForever believes in it too because he 'Liked' Nobby's post. Hence he appears to be in agreement with him that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

[Heavenman]

11 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yes? It seems obvious from the last few posts that Nobby Noboddy believes there to be a Jewish Conspiracy.

 

I'm wondering if RideForever believes in it too because he 'Liked' Nobby's post. Hence he appears to be in agreement with him that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

Have you read The Trigger?.

 

David clearly explains that The protocols are not a Jewish conspiracy, they are a Sabbatean Frankist agenda.

 

He also clearly explains the difference.

 

Perpetuating the Jewish conspiracy is just wrong pi, on so many levels.

 

 

peace

 

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by Heavenman

[pi3141]

9 minutes ago, Heavenman said:

Have you read The Trigger?.

 

David clearly explains that The protocols are not a Jewish conspiracy, they are a Sabbatean Frankist agenda.

 

He also clearly explains the difference.

 

Perpetuating the Jewish conspiracy is just wrong pi, on so many levels.

 

 

peace

 

 

 

I've not read the Trigger so thanks for that.

 

I'm nit perpetuating the Jewish conspiracy. Have you read this thread? 

 

You will see I'm speaking against there being a Jewish conspiracy and Nobby Noboddy is saying there is.

 

If the Jews are involved they are just pawns in the game.

Edited July 4, 2020 by pi3141

[pi3141]

59 minutes ago, Heavenman said:

Perpetuating the Jewish conspiracy is just wrong pi, on so many levels.

 

I do NOT believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

 

Twist those words and I'll report you as a troll.

[Nobby Noboddy]

On 7/4/2020 at 9:10 PM, pi3141 said:

 

Yes? It seems obvious from the last few posts that Nobby Noboddy believes there to be a Jewish Conspiracy.

 

I'm wondering if RideForever believes in it too because he 'Liked' Nobby's post. Hence he appears to be in agreement with him that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

Khazarian hiding behind Judaism.

 

And blow me down got this in response to a post the books thread:

 

https://archive.org/details/arthurkoestlerthethirteenthtribe

 

I look forward to reading.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Nobby Noboddy
coincidence

[Dagmar Gross]

On 7/3/2020 at 12:10 PM, pi3141 said:

 

Yes your right to question. How do we know indeed. Well we know Jesus wasn't his real name and he wasn't born on the 25th December because the shepherds would not be out in mid winter, but I do believe that 'Somebody' whom we call Jesus or is known as Jesus The Christ spoke those words on the mount and those words are great spiritual truths. Love thy neighbour, love God etc I guess you could argue it was written down because we have those words in the Bible. Anyway, you are also correct about the manipulation by different rulers. I was reading recently that back in the 10th century to 11th Century and again in later periods, they were conducting gay weddings, there's a mosaic in a church in Greece I think of two men getting married with Jesus in background acting as minister or handmaiden. Lets not forget the second class status women have enjoyed thanks to the Bible to, so yes manipulation, guilty as charged.

 

Anyhow I would be interested to hear of those who claim to have gone back what the real name of Jesus is - if they think its Jesus then their whole claim is suspect to be honest. If they spoke with him, they must know his real name, not the title assigned to him in the Bible by the magicians that wrote the God spells (Gospel translates to God Spells or God News). 

One of the two officers died some years ago after a lengthy number of years living in Mexico with the consequences of all his time-travel. Both he and his companion travelled back several times more than they were ordered to, as they got so hooked on discovering everything they could about Jesus.

The other officer is still alive, I think, but in hiding, with that module at the bottom of the Dead Sea! As he can switch it to other time-lines, nobody in our time can find him and it there.

Yes, Jesus was known as Yeshua and he was actually born on August 21st, most likely in the year minus 6 or even 7. Scholars of this subject relate his birth with the year that King Herod persecuted all of Nazareth's first-born males. By then, his parents had as we know already fled for Egypt with him.

The birth date was changed to coincide with those feast days the Romans held in December in honour of "Sol Invictus" or the invincible Sungod, by the Roman Emperor Constantine.

Jesus didn't see women as second-class. He had a whole group of female followers, Mary Magdalene or of Magdala ending up as their leader. And He didn't discriminate against anyone for their sexual orientation either, wanting people to see everyone as a child of God and love and respect them all equally. Not all His male disciples agreed with Him there, Peter least, I would say...

And just to clear up for people what Jesus actually looked like, this is a drawing that the second officer sent to Juan Jose Benitez. He bought it off an artist who had drawn Jesus from memory after they had had a chat and Jesus didn't want to be drawn. This was on the quay of Hipos, a port on the Sea of Galilee in 26AD and the incident is described in Benitez's book "El Diario de Eliseo", published October 2019.

 

[Dagmar Gross]

On 6/24/2020 at 2:06 PM, pi3141 said:

 

Ok, I'll try.

 

 

This suggests Carrots are sentient, they feel and have thoughts. This is demonstrably untrue, hence your assertion makes no sense.

Carrots, vegetables, and other fruits have all been put here to be eaten, to sustain life. Hence again, your statement makes no sense.

'The lord God commanded the man saying of every tree of the garden you are free to eat'. It is ordained by God that we eat vegetables and fruit. Hence again, from a spiritual viewpoint your statement makes no sense.

 

By implying I cannot keep up mentally with your argument is yet another troll tactic.

 

Sorry, but I don't follow you, what do you mean by - 

 

Of course all plants are sentient beings, but they have apparently made an agreement to allow themselves to be eaten. Animals and insects eat them too and humans have to eat something while we are in this 3-Density experience, so we must obviously draw the line somewhere.

It has been demonstrated often enough that plants react to different music or different voices, from which they either withdraw or they thrive on hearing.

This, however, may also have something to do with their water content. Look into Masaru Emoto's brilliant work on how water reacts to music, words and even written words near it!

Water either forms cristals or does not form cristals depending on how agreeable it finds the music or words. We too are made up of 70% water and children of even more, so naturally we react in that very same way. It is to do with the energy sent out by the emotion to do with the music or words. Quite amazing!

[pi3141]

32 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Khazarian hiding behind Judaism.

 

And blow me down got this in response to a post the books thread:

 

https://archive.org/details/arthurkoestlerthethirteenthtribe

 

I look forward to reading.

 

I am reading - the Seed That Fell On Good Ground. Chapter 5 so far.

Its interesting. 

[rideforever]

2 hours ago, Dagmar Gross said:

they have apparently made an agreement to allow themselves to be eaten.

 

Why do you think they grow thorns and secrete poisons?  Many of our cooking and food prep techniques revolve around removing or denaturing the poisons of the plants.

(Fruit are not like that because plants wish them to be eaten as their is mutual benefit.)

 

[Dagmar Gross]

3 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

Why do you think they grow thorns and secrete poisons?  Many of our cooking and food prep techniques revolve around removing or denaturing the poisons of the plants.

(Fruit are not like that because plants wish them to be eaten as their is mutual benefit.)

 

Okay, those perhaps don't wish it. But we cannot think along those lines, because we have to eat something. I already don't eat mammal and bird meat, but you try eating nothing at all in respect of nature. Even water is intelligent! Look at Dr. Masaru Emoto's work on that. Everything on Earth is made up of intelligent particles held together in millions of different ways by the God energy, so basically we only transform what we eat or drink into something else, which is then transformed into something else again. It is an endless cycle. The best humans can do is treat our food and drink with due respect for surrendering to us. In the very old days, people used to pray over their food and Native Americans, for example, still pray over the animal they have killed in gratitude to it and God. Wasting food is the greatest disrespect we can show it and the life it surrendered to us.

[Dagmar Gross]

On 7/4/2020 at 8:10 PM, pi3141 said:

 

Ok cheers. 

 

I'm dubious about the protocols. Even Douglas Reed who was accused of being Anti- Semetic doubted their authenticity in 'The Controversy of Zion'

 

He wrote a very interesting series of books at the time of WW2 and was a Times reporter if I remember correctly. He was definitely a newspaper or journal reporter at the time of WW2.

 

Most historians doubt their authenticity and so did William Cooper I think. It is uncanny how the predictions seem to be coming true, however its notable that many Christians are working toward and hoping for the end times. I think any Jews involved in the NWO are actually, primarily, Satanic and those that are not in the know are useful idiots un aware of their role in the grand plan. Religous zealots like some Christians, brainwashed by TPTB.

It's all in The Trigger. I didn't know about the difference between Hebrew/Semite Jews and Khazar Jews and the Satanic Sabbatian-Frankist sect that some of the latter joined. It was a big revelation to me that it was they who pushed for the artificial state of Israel and that most likely most of the Jews murdered by the Nazis were of Khazar origin too and that it is these that have the what the rest of us see as such a Semitic profile! The nose and all that! This is of course why David always insists that all of the Jewish faith need to read about this, as they don't know either, thanks to the Satanists who have always hidden among them, using them blatantly for all their nefarious ends! I really hope all people in the world get to know of this huge crime against these people now! And then the Cult can't use the term "Anti-Semitic" anymore against anyone criticizing them and not the Jewish people.

[Dagmar Gross]

On 7/4/2020 at 10:22 PM, pi3141 said:

 

I do NOT believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

 

Twist those words and I'll report you as a troll.

There is nothing to believe. If you have read David's work, you ought to know that it is the Khazar Sabbatian-Frankist Satanic Cult that is behind the conspiracy. The Jews, Khazar Jews and Hebrew Jews are being used vilely by this Cult who are running Israel and most of the world from there through their cyber intelligence systems out of Beersheba, Israel, operated by ex- or actual Mossad personnel. it's all in the books, especially The Trigger.

[rideforever]

4 hours ago, Dagmar Gross said:

The best humans can do is treat our food and drink with due respect for surrendering to us.

 

Okay, but the food is not surrendering to us.  We murder it and it does not wish to die.  So, we have to have a different type of understanding of the situation.
This world is inherently full of murder .. at least if we eat anything other than fruit.

[pi3141]

On 7/6/2020 at 6:48 PM, Dagmar Gross said:

Yes, Jesus was known as Yeshua and he was actually born on August 21st, most likely in the year minus 6 or even 7. Scholars of this subject relate his birth with the year that King Herod persecuted all of Nazareth's first-born males. By then, his parents had as we know already fled for Egypt with him.

The birth date was changed to coincide with those feast days the Romans held in December in honour of "Sol Invictus" or the invincible Sungod, by the Roman Emperor Constantine.

Jesus didn't see women as second-class. He had a whole group of female followers, Mary Magdalene or of Magdala ending up as their leader. And He didn't discriminate against anyone for their sexual orientation either, wanting people to see everyone as a child of God and love and respect them all equally. Not all His male disciples agreed with Him there, Peter least, I would say...

 

Yes and Yeshua translates to 'Joshua' in English so its still un clear where the name Jesus came from. Although I have the explanation that 'Jesus' translates to 'Great God of Fire'

 

I agree Jesus didn't see women as second class and I'm heartened to hear he didn't discriminate against sexual orientation - we are all children of God. 

 

I can't understand how, if God created everything and everything God does is perfect then why would he/she create homosexuals only to despise them? 

 

It could be explained that homosexuality is not the preferred state for humans but then homosexuals would be on a different path to the rest of us and who are we to judge their spiritual journey that God has set them on.

[pi3141]

On 7/7/2020 at 12:59 AM, Dagmar Gross said:

This is of course why David always insists that all of the Jewish faith need to read about this, as they don't know either, thanks to the Satanists who have always hidden among them, using them blatantly for all their nefarious ends! I really hope all people in the world get to know of this huge crime against these people now! And then the Cult can't use the term "Anti-Semitic" anymore against anyone criticizing them and not the Jewish people.

 

Yes, the Jews who are not Jews but the synagogue of satan, hence those at the top, although outwardly may identify as Jews are in fact satanists, first and foremost.

 

I've heard David Icke talk about the Sabbateans, I don't know much about it, perhaps he's hit the target but it appears to me there are many more involved in the plot and they're not all Khazarian descent. Just look at Albert Pike and the Freemasons. According to Pike they intend to forment a war between Israel (the Jews) and Islam to bring about their mutual destruction. If thats the plan why would the Jews join in to their own destruction? Doesn't make sense.

 

Again I think those that set this up also set up Judaism and Christianity and other Mystery Cults, they are Satanists but I think of them as dark magicians - Khazarian Sabateans? Not sure as they don't seem to go far back enough, they only converted to Judaism in the 8th century yet the creators of the Bsbylonian Mystery Cults were in existence hundreds of years before. So again I don't think the dark magicians who control this conspiracy are soley of Khazarian descent - it doesn't seem to fit the timeline. The Babylonian Mystery Cults draw their inspiration from the Egyptian Mystery Cults which existed thousands of years before. Again, where were the Khazarians at the time of Egypt? Barely in existence I guess.

 

Just my opinion.

[pi3141]

On 7/4/2020 at 4:55 PM, Nobby Noboddy said:

Have a look at the first book here: www.bristolgroup.org.uk

first couple of chapters should illuminate.

 

The Seed That Fell On Ground

 

Read it.

Interesting book. He mentions the Khazars at the beginning then goes on to describe them as Luciferians. This is correct in my opinion or rather closer to the truth than the Khazars. I accept the New Age movement is probably based on Luciferianism but then there's that whole discussion about whether Lucifer and Satan are one and the same. Still I'm glad he referred to them as Luciferian and not Jewish all the time. Also he drew widely from known conspiracy books and covered quite a bit of ground in a short book so it was interesting.

 

I don't agree with the Khazar theory, for me, those pushing the NWO are still, primarily, Satanic and I think the conspiracy goes at least back to Phoenician times, way before the Jews or Khazars came along. Also, the conspiracy has been hugely influenced by other players, Royalty, Church, Politicians of all denominations, globally have been involved so again, its not just the Khazars.

 

My theory is this, Judaism, Christianity and Freemasonary all came out of the Babylonian Mystery schools so you've got to ask the question, who wrote them? The authors are the real propagators of the conspiracy, the Jews, the Christians and the Freemasons are just useful idiots to the magicians that devised these religions and mystery teachings. What power and knowledge do these magicians have and what entities are they in contact with? 

 

The magicians who wrote these spells are drawing on knowledge from before Babylon, probably before Egypt too. Hence the conspiracy goes back further than Babylon and the Jews and certainly much further back than the Khazars. Are the Khazars part of the plot? Maybe, I can't answer that, maybe they were converted and bought into the plot centuries ago.

 

Reading up on Sabbatean Frankism it seems it was started in the 16th Century, the conspiracy has been going on centuries before that! They used the All Seeing Eye symbol, again they didn't invent that its years old.

 

Anyway, I did enjoy reading it so thanks for posting.

 

I have two questions -

 

Do you agree with the author that David Icke is steering followers down a New Age rabbit hole as asserted in the book?

What do you think of the author using Wikipedia as his sources a couple of times? I'm ok with it, I donate to that site, I think it has potential to be a great resource and is a great endeavor, but members here decry the use of Wiki. Whats your stance on Wiki?