epsom Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 It's all very well for David to say don't acquiesce---and I am damn sure I will not be IF I CAN HELP IT..... but sometimes it's not possible. David was very fortunate that he got the ferry back to Isle of Wight 15 mins before the mandatory public transport rule came in.. and the fact that he was the only passenger in the lounge on the ferry (all the others were in their cars). IF it had been after midnight and the ferry was full of passengers in the lounge etc, then he would NOT have been allowed to get on the ferry--no matter how much he protested. I have the same problem.... I HAVE to get a bus to a certain place soon---and it is that or not go (it is essential that I go)----so what do I do then?. Even though I do NOT want to acquiesce--I have no choice..... (I will wear a "mask", but it will be a handkerchief). If shops require me to wear mask, that is different, as I will just find out before I go to the shop to see if it is a requirement--and if it is, then I will do online shopping. Mandatory wearing of masks in shops will help kill them--inc supermarkets. If enough people are sick of this shit and do online shopping, that's the end of some major names. Already, thousands of small shop are never going to re-open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020member Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Pick one: Exemptions - people who do not have to wear a face covering The requirement to wear a face covering does not apply to: a child under the age of 11 an employee of the transport operator, when they are acting in the course of their employment any other person providing services to the transport operator, under arrangements made with the transport operator, who is providing those services a constable or police community support officer acting in the course of their duty an emergency responder such as a paramedic or fire officer acting in the course of their duty an official, for example a border force officer, acting in the course of their duties if you are allocated a cabin, berth or other similar accommodation, at any time when you are in that accommodation, either alone, or only with members of your own household or a linked household if you are on board public transport but remain in your private vehicle, for example on a car ferry The requirement to wear a face covering also does not apply if you have a reasonable excuse not to. Reasonable excuses include: if you have a physical or mental illness or impairment, or a disability that means you cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering if putting on, wearing or removing a face covering would cause you severe distress if you are travelling with, or providing assistance to, someone who relies on lip reading to communicate if you are travelling to avoid injury or escape the risk of harm, and you do not have a face covering with you if you need to remove it during your journey to avoid harm or injury or the risk of harm or injury to yourself or others if you need to eat, drink, or take medication you can remove your face covering if you are asked to remove your face covering by a police officer or other official, for example to check your railcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, epsom said: It's all very well for David to say don't acquiesce---and I am damn sure I will not be IF I CAN HELP IT..... but sometimes it's not possible. David was very fortunate that he got the ferry back to Isle of Wight 15 mins before the mandatory public transport rule came in.. and the fact that he was the only passenger in the lounge on the ferry (all the others were in their cars). IF it had been after midnight and the ferry was full of passengers in the lounge etc, then he would NOT have been allowed to get on the ferry--no matter how much he protested. I have the same problem.... I HAVE to get a bus to a certain place soon---and it is that or not go (it is essential that I go)----so what do I do then?. Even though I do NOT want to acquiesce--I have no choice..... (I will wear a "mask", but it will be a handkerchief). You raise good points epsom ... All I can think of is that you can just push things to the limit ... Get on the bus without a mask ... if the driver really won't let you on , then produce one from your pocket and put it on .... every small act is a push back , the driver will tell his supervisor it's a pain to enforce ... Same with police make them remind you to comply , know just how far you can push it without getting a fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, 2020member said: Pick one: Exemptions - people who do not have to wear a face covering The requirement to wear a face covering also does not apply if you have a reasonable excuse not to. Reasonable excuses include: if you have a physical or mental illness or impairment, or a disability that means you cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering if putting on, wearing or removing a face covering would cause you severe distress Well ! .. that's a big escape clause , no need for a doctors note ! Just tell the official it will cause you severe distress ... which is true , it represents enslavement ... You need to carry a print out of the 'decree' to prove your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Search Results Web results GP notes not required for face covering exemptions, says ... www.pulsetoday.co.uk › news › 20041004.article 5 days ago - GPs should not be required to write a note for any patients who are ... Exemptions - people who do not have to wear a face covering ... a child under the age of 11; an employee of the transport operator, ... The requirement to wear a face covering also does not apply if you have a reasonable excuse not t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, epsom said: It's all very well for David to say don't acquiesce---and I am damn sure I will not be IF I CAN HELP IT..... but sometimes it's not possible. David was very fortunate that he got the ferry back to Isle of Wight 15 mins before the mandatory public transport rule came in.. and the fact that he was the only passenger in the lounge on the ferry (all the others were in their cars). IF it had been after midnight and the ferry was full of passengers in the lounge etc, then he would NOT have been allowed to get on the ferry--no matter how much he protested. I have the same problem.... I HAVE to get a bus to a certain place soon---and it is that or not go (it is essential that I go)----so what do I do then?. Even though I do NOT want to acquiesce--I have no choice..... (I will wear a "mask", but it will be a handkerchief). If shops require me to wear mask, that is different, as I will just find out before I go to the shop to see if it is a requirement--and if it is, then I will do online shopping. Mandatory wearing of masks in shops will help kill them--inc supermarkets. If enough people are sick of this shit and do online shopping, that's the end of some major names. Already, thousands of small shop are never going to re-open. Welcome to the forum! If it's a one off trip there's always a taxi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 If it's a ferry, put the mask on and as soon as the ferry leaves the dock take it off. What are they going to do turn around and take you back? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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