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3 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Except that the flat Earth camp have provided zero evidence.

 

I just found this, but of course it will be called "cgi".

 

https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1015521697-planet-earth-point-view-inside-international-space

 

I did ask for streaming video. Live streaming video. Will that be forthcoming or will you send a few insults instead? Insults and delay tactic excuses.

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What about inner space. A ball earth model has depth limitations a flat model does not have. Being flat it can go down indefinately. Meaning inner space could turn out to be a very busy place with access portals hidden from sight. The ball earth where you dig far enough you reach the other side of the sphere, theoretically.

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@Messenger

 

(Sorry, getting blocked when I try to quote your reply.)

 

Okay, that's a fair response.

 

I just got that impression that that would be his conclusion from the nazi and Nordic mind control bits in this, which was was the top result for 'William Tompkins' on DuckDuckGo:

 

https://thefreedomarticles.com/william-tompkins-et-whistleblower/

 

 

And the comments on this Jeff Rense vid:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVP_dNM5o4&feature=emb_title

 

It's a bit conflicting though as the thefreedomarticles.com link says stolen nazi tech, but some of the responses in that Jeff Rense video imply that he thinks nazis are behind the scenes. I guess William is actually a case where it will benefit me to watch more of what he says to get a better understanding.

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I haven't found it yet but if you want it that badly why not search for it yourself? Are you incapable of searching?

 

How about the interviews I have linked to, have you listened to them yet? Of course not, because you don't want to actually learn anything, your main goal is to distract and deflect.

 

 

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Given the claims made about the exploitation of space it is remarkable, actually impossible, that they were never able to industrialize anything uo there to make progress pay for itself. Always the big treasury doors spitting out gold with no hope of a return on the investment. These clowns are terrified of the flat earth model.

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We see bright objects racing across the night sky and we call those rocks without ever having seen them up close. We say they are consumed because they are the size of a grain of sand. As if a grain of ignited sand could be that bright and visible to the naked eye from our vantage point. We imagine they are space debris in our path around the sun. Nevermind that they hum, that they originate from constellations or that they never damage materials on the surface in spite of them racing across in great numbers. No one has ever filmed them tracking up close to see even with those big telescopes one contributor invited me to check out.

 

Its all speculation in accordance with the ball earth model again. 

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18 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

@Messenger

 

(Sorry, getting blocked when I try to quote your reply.)

 

Okay, that's a fair response.

 

I just got that impression that that would be his conclusion from the nazi and Nordic mind control bits in this, which was was the top result for 'William Tompkins' on DuckDuckGo:

 

https://thefreedomarticles.com/william-tompkins-et-whistleblower/

 

 

And the comments on this Jeff Rense vid:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVP_dNM5o4&feature=emb_title

 

It's a bit conflicting though as the thefreedomarticles.com link says stolen nazi tech, but some of the responses in that Jeff Rense video imply that he thinks nazis are behind the scenes. I guess William is actually a case where it will benefit me to watch more of what he says to get a better understanding.

Yeah that's the most logical thing to do when gathering accurate information, is to go straight to the source.

 

He worked with Maria Orsitsch at Northrup I think he said, I can't remember it's been a while since I've seen the interview. He also wrote a book called, Selected by Extraterrestrials.

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27 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Given the claims made about outer space exploits I think it reasonable to expect we would have a 24 hour satellite feed orbitting the moon and reversing cameras catch live views of the spinning ball earth. Everyone is so busy doing stuff up there they can't be bothered proving they are really there.

Clearly you have comprehension or listening challenge as I've already covered this. They do not want people knowing. It's that simple. Like I said, the majority of the public's response to corona "virus" is the perfect example of why the cabal and the aerospace industry do not want the public knowing what's going on up there. Humans are a labor resource who have largely paid for the secret space program for the last seventy to eighty years.

 

Maybe stick to less complex issues like racial matters, rather than trying to convince people the Earth is flat with no evidence to back it up.

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15 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Yeah that's the most logical thing to do when gathering accurate information, is to go straight to the source.

 

Of course, our time is limited though so I often do a quick search online to get the basics of their content and then I try to have a brief look at criticism too to see if any of it is valid.

 

With stuff that is closer to home on this planet, I tend to be willing to invest more time into as it's easier to look into to verify. I could sit for hours and watch stuff about what is happening in space and I won't have really got anywhere because it's harder to verify when I'm just some pleb on Earth. I need to just have a day where I watch some of these longer vids in threads like these to be fair, I need to take my mind off of what is going on on Earth anyway.

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26 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Clearly you have comprehension or listening challenge as I've already covered this. They do not want people knowing. It's that simple. Like I said, the majority of the public's response to corona "virus" is the perfect example of why the cabal and the aerospace industry do not want the public knowing what's going on up there. Humans are a labor resource who have largely paid for the secret space program for the last seventy to eighty years.

 

Maybe stick to less complex issues like racial matters, rather than trying to convince people the Earth is flat with no evidence to back it up.

 

The convincing is already done. Sorry you missed it. Maybe you could go to Philadelphia, dig up some time travel relics and go back in time and try again.

 

Were you a travel agent in some other life the way you keep trying to find destinations for me? Lol.

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37 minutes ago, Messenger said:

They do not want people knowing. It's that simple. Like I said, the majority of the public's response to corona "virus" is the perfect example of why the cabal and the aerospace industry do not want the public knowing what's going on up there.

 

Same can be said for the flat model. Observing the corona hysteria might make one reflect long and hard before stirring a flat earth pot. Religion will clash with science and confidence in government could drop radically. Astronomers are instantly out of work. NASA and like concerns are trashed, sub contracters sue for fraud etc. A rabbit hole jam packed with .excitement.

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3 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Given the claims made about outer space exploits I think it reasonable to expect we would have a 24 hour satellite feed orbitting the moon and reversing cameras catch live views of the spinning ball earth. Everyone is so busy doing stuff up there they can't be bothered proving they are really there.

I think it is more telling that there isn't a livefeed. It would be easy to fake. So if, as you believe (not me for clarity) the earth is flat and the global model is a hoax...surely to perpetuate the hoax there'd be  just such a feed?  I stay off the fe thread (mostly, I do occasionally let myself down but I don't try to derail it) because I respect other people's right to have alternate views. . I respect @bflat I think they are a sincere and honest truthseeker who made this thread in the hopes of learning new stuff (for what my opinion is worth).But this thread has rapidly become a fe  thread and that is telling about other people's motives. I've had to double check several times I am replying to the alien proof thread not FE.

 

As @Messenger says the main reason there is no feed is because it would show the sheer volume of ET and ID activity. And so we are now back on topic :-)

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, kj35 said:

I respect @bflat I think they are a sincere and honest truthseeker who made this thread in the hopes of learning new stuff (for what my opinion is worth).

Thanks for noticing, kj. I absolutely did. And I respect your posting here as well and would like to ask you what you believe to be the best evidence for aliens coming here from outer space. So far all I have seen are folks pushing what to me seems so obviously controlled opposition agents, that I'm really not sure how to respond. Again, I'm could be down with interdimensional beings, but the idea that they are traveling through "space" from other "planets" or "galaxies" seems ridiculous.

 

Can these entities, whatever they are, travel here not from light years away, but only a Planck length?

 

3 hours ago, kj35 said:

But this thread has rapidly become a fe  thread and that is telling about other people's motives.

I hope this did not include me. Sadly however, this may be a natural progression of this discussion as the basis involves our true cosmology. If modern astronomy is wrong about "space," I'm sure you can see the problem. I believe you started a thread on the old board on this very topic.

 

3 hours ago, kj35 said:

As @Messenger says the main reason there is no feed is because it would show the sheer volume of ET and ID activity. And so we are now back on topic :-)

And he is one of the posters pushing what appears to be obvious shills.

 

In your opinion, is there any tangible evidence beyond these "channelers" and other "insider" accounts?

 

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9 minutes ago, bflat said:

Thanks for noticing, kj. I absolutely did. And I respect your posting here as well and would like to ask you what you believe to be the best evidence for aliens coming here from outer space. So far all I have seen are folks pushing what to me seems so obviously controlled opposition agents, that I'm really not sure how to respond. Again, I'm could be down with interdimensional beings, but the idea that they are traveling through "space" from other "planets" or "galaxies" seems ridiculous.

 

Can these entities, whatever they are, travel here not from light years away, but only a Planck length?

 

I hope this did not include me. Sadly however, this may be a natural progression of this discussion as the basis involves our true cosmology. If modern astronomy is wrong about "space," I'm sure you can see the problem. I believe you started a thread on the old board on this very topic.

 

And he is one of the posters pushing what appears to be obvious shills.

 

In your opinion, is there any tangible evidence beyond these "channelers" and other "insider" accounts?

 

Hiya x I've seen them. I can't explain it any other way. I've told the story elsewhere on here and I'd be willing to take a lie detector test. They also discussed a future sporting event and its outcome. Which  came to pass as they described  and I told people around me that it would at that time.  In addition my Facebook posts about it are time marked.  I believe they were human and interdimensional. I cant offer you any more proof and I'd probably be as incredulous as you are without that experience.  I have nothing to gain by sharing this in fact all I could probably get is ridicule and disbelief. 

 

Edit  so from here but a future time. 

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Just now, bflat said:

Ok, I'm with this, but outer space aliens? Anything there for you?

Because I believe in the global world and universe theory, it is easy for me to extrapolate those trillions of potential worlds into the probability of other life existing. I completely get why as a FE earther that becomes more difficult. 

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Fire in the sky with Travis Walton was quite eye opening though. And those guys also passed lie detector tests and Travis Walton, I believe lives fairly reclusively too. Again I look at what people have gained or lost in the telling of their tales.

 

That's why David Icke rings so true. For years he was ridiculed and lost virtually everything. Only recently getting recognition and money.

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8 minutes ago, kj35 said:

Because I believe in the global world and universe theory, it is easy for me to extrapolate those trillions of potential worlds into the probability of other life existing. I completely get why as a FE earther that becomes more difficult. 

Belief just won't work, because this whole paradigm is from freemason bullshit. Look, if you want to really understand, I have a suggestion. This is one of my favorite books on cosmology. It is not a FE book, but does destroy so many of the fictions modern astronomy holds as scientific fact.

 

Up to you:

Kings dethroned

a history of the evolution of astronomy from the time of the roman empire up to the present day; showing it to be an amazing series of blunders founded upon an error made in the second century B.C.  

--Gerrard Hickson

https://ia802705.us.archive.org/12/items/kingsdethronedhi00hickrich/kingsdethronedhi00hickrich.pdf

 

 

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Oh now I'm a shill because I don't swallow up flat Earth bullshit. :classic_laugh:

 

Flat Earth topic goes hand in hand with UFO/ET topic. If the government and "deep state" assholes can convince naive low IQ small-minded people that the Earth is flat then it basically gives them the opportunity to say, see , UFO's and ET's couldn't possibly be real because there is no outer space or other galaxies. It is also a great way to hide magnetism's role in keeping everything together, and its application in "free" energy, which the energy industry tossers are desperately trying to keep people from realizing while they try so hard to keep humanity confined to obsolete oil and coal, and electric companies.

 

Flat Earth bullshit resurfaced into society around the same time that the staged shootings and bombings kicked off, starting with Columbine shooting in 1999, and then the next one with Sandy Hook elementary school in CT in 2012. I noticed this on youtube around 2009 and then began researching it and finding the upload/"published" dates of those vids was around that time period.

 

Coincidentally (not) around the same time that people began speaking out about the secret space program taking place. If people can't see the correlation to all of these things then to me it means that they aren't very smart or haven't spent enough time doing the research, or they are a paid troll trying to keep people from putting all these pieces together.

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10 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

The convincing is already done. Sorry you missed it. Maybe you could go to Philadelphia, dig up some time travel relics and go back in time and try again.

 

Were you a travel agent in some other life the way you keep trying to find destinations for me? Lol.

I could not give two shits if you are convinced or not, but why come into a thread about ET's aliens and then denounce all the content posted?

 

I find your obsession with NASA troubling. Tunnel vision.

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15 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Flat Earth topic goes hand in hand with UFO/ET topic. If the government and "deep state" assholes can convince naive low IQ small-minded people that the Earth is flat then it basically gives them the opportunity to say, see , UFO's and ET's couldn't possibly be real because there is no outer space or other galaxies.

 

But they can't convince many people of flat earth. I think it's more a way to discredit people that question other things that take place in space. Years ago you would get people questioning things like the Apollo mission, but if you do stuff like that these days a lot of people will automatically assume you're a flat Earth believer. It seems like it's also used to discredit people that believe in conspiracy theories in general.

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