To our aliens from space believers: Please post your best proofs that they exist, have been here, or have interbred with humanity

[motleyhoo]

I don't have proof of aliens, I just look at how humans interface with Earth in a way that is unlike any other species.  I'm 60 years old and since I was 5 I've been thinking that something just isn't right.  Religion isn't right.  History isn't right.  The way we act in nature isn't right.  There's something fundamentally very wrong with us.  If we were an accident of Nature, then Nature really fucked up and created the very thing that is in the process of destroying it.  I don't think this is how Nature works.  Which begs the question, if Nature didn't create us, then how did we get here?  Did we travel here, or did someone from someplace else put/create us here?

[zArk]

i do not doubt personal experiences and i think a perception switch is triggered in these people indicating either

a. access to another dimension is attained

b. an internal world is accessed which is part of the human experience

 

yet as a physically manifested thing in this dimension..... nope, not a chance. zero physical evidence

with all the cctv, cameras and the internet it would be impossible for real physical entities to do the things reported without evidence being captured

 

graham hancocks supernatural book explains quite a bit vety well

 

and Terence mckennas mushroom explanation is very intriguing 

 

 

[motleyhoo]

I took a 400 level Astro class in college called Life Beyond Earth.  The entire class was basically structured around the Drake Equation, which is used to estimate, with obvious assumptions, how many intelligent sentient species exist in our galaxy.  My professor's opinion was that it's basically impossible for aliens to be visiting us.  He believes that 1) it would take too long for them to get here, 2) it would expend massive energy to get here, and 3)  we're not interesting enough for anyone to expend that much time and energy getting here.  My counter to his opinion ->

 

1)  An alien race may be more likely to send a probe instead of a person to check out other planetary systems.  Given that some of these alien races are mind-bogglingly more advanced than us, it's likely their probes would also be so advanced we cannot even comprehend them.  Perhaps they are advanced enough that what we perceive as aliens within craft are projections from afar.

2)  Assuming some of these alien races are many multitudes more advanced than we are, it is not a stretch of the imagination to believe they likely are tapping into energy sources and laws of physics, including at the quantum level, that we have not discovered yet.

3)  I can't imagine an intelligent, sentient being not looking up at the night sky and wondering what's up there and who else is up there.

 

One of my favorite science fiction TV series is Expanse.  It's so very well done.  In season 1, the inhabitants of Mars, which is it's own independent state in the solar system, are presented as having a single planetary goal of terraforming their planet to the point of having an atmosphere, clouds, weather/precipitation, lakes, rivers and an ocean.  They're single minded enough that they understand that it's all hands on deck and multi-generational, likely taking 200-300 years or more.

 

Just think if even one of the advanced alien races has this mindset, that they have a single-minded, multi-generational goal of the entire population working to find out who is out there.  It's not impossible that they would have visited us, it's likely, even if it was just a probe sent to check us out.

 

 

 

[Armesis]

All humans aren't supposed to know there are aliens. We are still a primitive species and are still evolving. If disclosure happened tomorrow, at least 1/3rd of humans would prepare for holy war to kill the 'invaders'. I've seen serious posts from white supremacists talking about aliens seriously, they are only interested in killing them and taking their technology. Just shows our current mindset which is based on fear and violence. 

 

This place is a small example, they have killed people trying to approach their island, even firing arrows at helicopters. 

 

https://northsentinelisland.com/

 

fyi, there is limited first hand contact with people to this day, that's why this topic is a thing. I know first hand. They are just like us but more evolved and intelligent. 

[motleyhoo]

There's also different insane factions in the govt, some believing aliens are Biblical demons, and others so fearful and paranoid of anything they do not understand that they see aliens as the greatest physical threat to mankind.  Then there's those in Intelligence who see aliens as a means to exploit technology for new super-weapons.

[EnigmaticWorld]

5 hours ago, bflat said:

These orbs are interesting. Are there specific ones you are referring to and is there any basis fro believing they come from space?

 

Nah not any specific ones and you ask a fair question about where they come from, but I'm not sure to be honest.

[QuodHumana]

Plenty of twitter accounts on UFO's. Discern for yourself. There are so many real UFO sightings nowadays, it's impossible to keep track of all of them.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, QuodHumana said:

Plenty of twitter accounts on UFO's. Discern for yourself. There are so many real UFO sightings nowadays, it's impossible to keep track of all of them.

 

OP is asking for the best proofs of aliens, not unidentified flying objects.

[mdx]

Theres many credible UFO sightings, odd NASA footage, the whole Disclosure Project testimonies and multiple corroborative UFO sighting accounts (Phoenix Lights and the UFO landing at a school in Ruwa, Zimbabwe Africa decades ago). Bear in mind the media has used its power to flood the public with information first that attempts to discredit these accounts. A good example of this is the issue regarding crop circles here in the UK back in the 90s. The media focused on hoaxes which were behind certain crop circles but they never highlighted that there were many others where the crops were bent in such a way that were not snapped (basically the hoax ones were done in damaging way to crops by use of blunt instruments whereas the suppsed true ones were not)

 

Below is a famous crop circle that was a response to the Arecibo message sent out by NASA and Carl Sagan years earlier. In it details the alien senders location and info re its galaxy 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message

https://labofevolution.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/the-crop-circle-that-answered-the-arecibo-message/

Again the media simply repeat things until the public take it as the truth even if it is a pack of lies/unsubstantiated. They claim that the crop circle was a hoax like all overs

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, mdx said:

Bear in mind the media has used its power to flood the public with information first that attempts to discredit these accounts.

 

Maybe the case years ago, but it seems like the media are starting to push UFO sightings these days.

[EnigmaticWorld]

While reading from the same script a lot of the time too.

[Seeker]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:19 PM, bflat said:

I'm very serious here. My mind is open. I was a huge fan of aliens being here from other areas of space and I eventually came to the conclusion that this simply could not be so. I know from experience the amount of pure disinformation that is out there for any topics the msm will not discuss. I accept the possibility that I was simply following a trail of disinformation and never got to the "good stuff."

 

I see many posters on here talking about these ideas that I listed in the title. I find it fascinating.

 

So, to the point... what's the good stuff? What did I miss? Thanks in advance for any help.

I’m curious what you thought was disinformation? I assume you come from the point of view that aliens are demons? All I know for sure is there’s creatures that feed of negative energy (demons) and creatures with insane technology messing around with us (aliens). Some believe they’re the same, I think it’s 2 different entities personally and the demons are feeding nicely off the aliens as they have totally disconnected from spirituality thanks to their addiction to technology 

[Messenger]

18 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

There is definitely an overlap in what some consider ET and what some consider biblical for sure. Cattle mutilations have often been attributed to the Sons of Satan cult for example.

 

Only no one has yet been able to explain how "they" extract all the blood without a single drop being found on the ground, and not a single footprint in the area, and the wound cauterized. Greer claims it is done by a "paramilitary" group, but even doctors, as in surgeons, have said that it would be very difficult to drain the blood because of the vacuum it produces in the veins as it is drawn.

 

Plus, there are people to have reported seeing cattle hovering in the sky. One report said that a cow was found dead with all legs broken, as if it had been dropped from a considerable height.

 

Did you get to the part in the presentation when Schneider talks about how the aliens see us as "a bag of food"? And how they don't eat the bones but they use the "glandular secretions" as their nutrients and to get high... then he said "adrenochrome", I think.

 

So this is where the overlap is between alien and satanic, but if it is the satanic camp doing it then it doesn't explain how they cauterize the wounds so perfectly and have not spilled a single drop of blood, if we assume it is "paramilitary" and they are conducting that procedure from a helicopter.

 

We know the satanic camp are into the adrenochrome thing, well... we know based on hints that hollywood give us in movies, and I recall someone saying that Mel Gibson said that adrenochrome is its own currency in Hollywood. But the satanists, it seems many of them are very messy with the blood, smearing it all over, as I have seen with marina abramovich.

 

The clean scene around animal mutilations suggest to me that it is alien.

 

If it is alien, which I am inclined to believe more, then it makes more sense that they have advanced techniques to drain the blood and cauterize the wound and then drop off the animal without leaving any tracks.

 

Further, they seem to take specific organs and parts of the animal so as to be able to genetically rebuild the animal on another planet or in another part of the universe.

 

I think these two Montana sheriffs speak about it, but I've heard this cattle/animal mutilation topic discussed by many others. There are tons of vids on youtube of people talking about it.

 

 

[Messenger]

@alexa

 

I wasn't raised religious, my grandmother was strict Catholic but my mom and her siblings who attended catholic school were physically and mentally abused by catholic nuns and priests who beat them, so they have seen the true colors of religion, thankfully, because then I wasn't raised to be brainwashed into it.

 

Have I prayed and do I pray once in a while? Sure, and I do believe there is a higher power on the "other side", but I don't believe it is male, and I don't allow my entire life to be enclosed in a mental prison about some book that was written by man thousands of years ago and then "updated" every few hundred years to suit the agenda of the dictators who sought to rule over people.

 

Personally, I think theology is for small-minded people who harbor a lot of fear and ignorance about the very large world we live in. Based on my research, I don't believe that humanity were made by "God", I believe that the Anunnaki created humans as a slave species to mine gold for them to repair their planet that suffered devastation during a massive inter-planetary war. Perhaps they had other motives, such as their ego in having fun creating a species, like a look what we can do, kind of like how humans play with biology in creating micro-organism in petri dishes, or breeding animals, but based on what I have seen, most humans are not strong enough mentally to accept the evidence that supports that possibility because they have been brainwashed with religion.

 

And it is a fact based on actual events that all of us have witnessed that religion is one of the main things that divide humanity and cause so many wars and destruction not only to us but to this beautiful planet. Israel and rothschild's zionism vs Christianity vs Islam vs Mormon vs Catholic, everyone believing that THEIR religion is the best. I mean, just the fact that you believe the Earth is flat tells me that you refuse to consider the facts that we know and can literally see with the moon, the tides rising and receding, aircraft taking less time to fly east than west, gravity actually existing since I have felt its affect on my body as I jumped from an aircraft 10,000 feet off the ground, and many other factors that show the Earth as more likely being a sphere than flat, and you avoiding all of these factors that not only myself but millions of other people have also seen and experienced.

 

Zecharia Sitchin did a lot of research regarding the Anunnaki and Planet Niburu aka Planet X or the twelfth planet, or the brown dwarf, and I believe that according to the many ancient tablets he and many others have examined that they are just as accurate as the oldest religious books, but it's easier for people, it seems, to accept truth in metaphors than outright which is why so many people avoid the alien topic, because it would show humans who insecure and whom have huge ego's that they actually are not at the top of the food chain like they have been led to believe for thousands of years.

 

IMO the government's purposely keep people ignorant to the UFO/alien information because the government, specifically American since that's where I reside, were busy using Americans as the labor resource required to fund the secret space program. If Americans knew the truth about the real space program, they would demand the government be transparent and of course the government we have would never do that and it would cause a huge problem.

 

So you can remain in what I view as a mental prison of religious dogma but the facts prove that there are highly intelligent entities who have figured out advanced propulsion systems that have allowed them to travel what we perceive as a great distance when really it is our own mind limiting us from seeing that the distance really isn't so great. Perhaps some of these entities are even us evolved from many years into the future coming back to visit their past civilization. I'm no Nikola Tesla or Thomas Townsend Brown but I like to think that my mind is far more evolved than most Americans who I encounter on a day to day basis, and if health is one of those factors then I can confidently say that is a yes while also believing that I don't know shit. lol

 

So, if the alien/UFO topic is not for you, then you are welcome to not read my posts, because it is certainly a topic that fascinates me. 

[Messenger]

Alright so I'm going to revisit and summarize the Phil Schneider presentation.

 

At 5:40 alien technology, "well hidden from the public". 131 "active" deep underground military bases in the united states. 1477 worldwide. Each one has an average cost of seventeen to nineteen billion dollar cost.

 

"My colleague Al Bielek has actually been on some of the high speed rail ways" (underground). "We have nothing like this on the surface". The public has basically been totally lied to, we are considered stupid or even moronic in some cases".

 

And years later after he is long gone, corona virus panic proves that what he says is correct about the government thinking people are stupid.

 

"If the truth cannot totally come out.....what's the use in us having anything called freedom?"

 

8:38 "they are a whole new class of hypersonic above mach five aircraft, they employ extremely modern charge particle weapons"...

 

9:58 "crystaline example, it's in a scalinal hedryl crystaline form, we got this from the large greys, this is grown in the confines of the outer space....this is capable of withstanding temps in excess of 10,000 degrees fahrenheit".

 

"we built nine underground military bases there (groom lake), each with an average capacity capable, basically a city underground, roughly four and a quarter cubic miles hollowed out under ground. They have boring machines for instance, they don't bore, they literally vitrify and melt the rock, deflagerate the rock, it's a very sophisticated laser, melting and deflagerating system, it reduces the rock to a powder and then melts the remaining rock as a coating on the inside of the base".....

 

Anyone who has looked for photographs of underground bases has seen how the walls are smooth.

 

"The government that is now in, still in, ruling over us, are ruling as we are serfs and theyre the kings and queens, now that's a feudal system, that's not even a democracy. We are now being ruled by a autocracy and a technocracy"....

 

At 17:05 he talks about helping to build the los alamos ducle biological underground base. This is the base I've heard to by numerous people referred to as "nightmare hall" where there are aliens working with humans and conducting genetic experiments. You are welcome to do a search for dulce or archuleta mesa and it will come up on google map.

 

Then he goes into how he was sent down to inspect equipment that kept breaking while they were building this base, and how at the camp set up there were alien greys and green berets.

 

20:15 he talks about how he encountered one of the greys who fired a "blue beam" that opened up his chest. Burnt his shoe and toe nails off, like a lightning bolt.

 

Sixty six Green berets and black berets died there in the alien fight because the "United States government lied, did not tell us anything about the alien threat. There's a war underneath there"...

 

"since late August of 1979 our military, the Russia military, basically the militaries of the world have been in constant conflict with the outer space alien, the small grey, the large grey, the reptilians, the whole thing, there are eleven distinct races of aliens..."

 

At 24:00 he talks about Val Valiant Thor which is allegedly a very intelligent alien "human looking, IQ about 1200, speaks a hundred languages fluently....by the way he doesn't shake hands, he's kind of in a space suit, because all aliens regardless of benevolent or otherwise, they're carrying germs and dis-eases, and bacterium, in and on them that are deadly to us. If I were making policy I'd quarantine them all. Because, how do we not know that some of our dis-eases like AIDS, ebola, hanto virus, and a few of these other weird designer dis-eases as I call them, are not made from the cadavers of some of these aliens as a biological weapon to use against the people of the Unites States?

 

Or corona virus?!

 

28:00 "US military knew all about flying discs and flying disc technology as early as 1933, of course remember the Germans did too, the Nazi Germans, Hitler and all their bunch of people."

 

31:40 the very important part which we are witnessing right now.

 

"Now, I'm going to casually mention to you something that is very scary indeed, and tell you what the alien agenda is, and it's going to sound very familiar. The alien agenda is the complete take over of this planet, the killing off of 5/6ths to 7/8ths of the world's population by the year 2029. The US military has known about this for 45 years, they've told no one. As far as I know I'm the only person standing before a crowd talking about the alien agenda, secretively."

 

"Ok, back in 1954, I'll give you a quick overview, there was the 1954 treaty where Eisenhower signed a pact with the known alien species of the time, there were three at the time. He said that we're going to deal in high technology, but you can take a few head of cattle and a few human beings and you can experiment on them. It's unthinkable! It's stuff straight out of the Nazi death camps, and I'm kidding you not, it's plain BS, and it's got to stop."

 

"Now the agreed 1954 treaty had been violated, after the great firefight, the great alien human war, I am the only living survivor talking about it world wide at all, the only one, the other two are in nursing homes in Canada, and the Canadian government refuses to allow any US people including myself, to talk to them, because they are afraid of kidnap.

 

"Probably the reason I got shot to pieces and eleven attempts on my life is, I am a direct threat to the entire system. The NWO order, the alien agenda is one in the same, it's world take over and the decimation of the population of this planet. I'm going to tell you something a bit little different about the alien species, the bad news ones, there are nine races of alien populations, they look at the human being as a bag of food. They're not cannibals they don't eat the flesh and the bones and all that kind of stuff. They use the glandular secretions of animals and human beings as a mixture of the vitamins for their food. They get high off of our adrenal gland substances, called adrenochrome. It's something like cocaine to them."

 

He continues with the presentation but I'm going to point out something that I found years ago when looking into this when I first found and listened to this presentation, around 2015. I looked into the underground bases and I found this company who makes boring machines, called Bechtel. I looked into who owns the company because it's pretty serious technology to turn super hard rock to powder and then liquefy it so it cools smooth like glass. Here's an interesting connection I made while later researching henry kissinger after watching Cathy O'Brien's presentation....

 

Henry Kissinger and the Bechtel brothers of the Bechtel company are, or were, all members of Bohemian Grove, and they were even photographed together one season in a group. See the image. Kissinger has advised every US president dating back to Richard Nixon. When people started protesting against him for being a war criminal, the media was pretty much silent, except for RT. Most Americans don't know who he is, that's the goal of the mainstream media is to keep men like him invisible.

 

After Obama we got the Trump vs Hillary show, kissinger disappeared. It is said that he is also advising trump but years ago when Trump first got in office, it was very difficult to find any photos of them together and since about 2017 the mainstream media haven't said a peep about kissinger. This is a man who most certainly belongs in prison IMO. I mean, he has known the inner workings of every US president for the last fifty years, EASY.

 

Nixon served as US president from 1969 to 1974 to give you an idea of how long Kissinger has been telling US presidents what to do. Kissinger is very closely linked to the rockefellers also. The rockefellers, whom have also been kept hidden from the public eye as the mainstream media and cabal whip up race wars and boogeyman viruses to scare everyone into submission. David rockefeller passed some years ago but I believe he is survived by Nelson and a few other brothers. I believe that Nelson rockefeller was head of the US psychological operations department. I found a video on it once and added it to my list only to find it had been deleted a few months later, this was around 2015. There are some books out there that talk about Nelson rockefeller and kissinger working together.

 

People need to wake up and snap out of the fear and start researching and facing the evidence and stop allowing agents and close minded people to dominate the airwaves. David Icke has been talking about reptilians for decades and people thought he was nuts. Phil Schneider mentioned reptilians decades ago and ends up dead, but people want to continue to be suspicious while the NWO has us all locked down and talking about vaccinating the entire global population, and bill gates talking about reducing the population by 15%. It's not a conspiracy theory, these "people" are in fact conspiring against us and we need to unite and do something about it. We cannot let them divide us based on our skin color because that's how they continue to win. If you're skeptical about any of these topics, why even bother browsing the David Icke forum?

 

Oh, I just noticed that Gerald Ford is in the photo too. Cathy O'Brien had quite the bit to say about him. She wrote the book, Tranceformation of America where she talked about trauma based mind control and being Gerald Ford and Hillary Clinton's sex slave.

[Messenger]

11 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

I took a 400 level Astro class in college called Life Beyond Earth.  The entire class was basically structured around the Drake Equation, which is used to estimate, with obvious assumptions, how many intelligent sentient species exist in our galaxy.  My professor's opinion was that it's basically impossible for aliens to be visiting us.  He believes that 1) it would take too long for them to get here, 2) it would expend massive energy to get here, and 3)  we're not interesting enough for anyone to expend that much time and energy getting here.  My counter to his opinion ->

 

1)  An alien race may be more likely to send a probe instead of a person to check out other planetary systems.  Given that some of these alien races are mind-bogglingly more advanced than us, it's likely their probes would also be so advanced we cannot even comprehend them.  Perhaps they are advanced enough that what we perceive as aliens within craft are projections from afar.

2)  Assuming some of these alien races are many multitudes more advanced than we are, it is not a stretch of the imagination to believe they likely are tapping into energy sources and laws of physics, including at the quantum level, that we have not discovered yet.

3)  I can't imagine an intelligent, sentient being not looking up at the night sky and wondering what's up there and who else is up there.

 

One of my favorite science fiction TV series is Expanse.  It's so very well done.  In season 1, the inhabitants of Mars, which is it's own independent state in the solar system, are presented as having a single planetary goal of terraforming their planet to the point of having an atmosphere, clouds, weather/precipitation, lakes, rivers and an ocean.  They're single minded enough that they understand that it's all hands on deck and multi-generational, likely taking 200-300 years or more.

 

Just think if even one of the advanced alien races has this mindset, that they have a single-minded, multi-generational goal of the entire population working to find out who is out there.  It's not impossible that they would have visited us, it's likely, even if it was just a probe sent to check us out.

 

 

 

He sounds like a dumbarse,. Or he was instructed to give false information, cast seeds of doubt. 3) Maybe aliens aren't interested in us, maybe it's Earth they want. Except I have come across information that the greys needed our genetics for survival, and the reptilians want us, specifically the females.

 

This guy is a "professor" at a college in Pennsylvania and secretary of "health". Do you know what he is a "professor" of? Pediatric and psychology! This is a man who now calls himself Rachel. Whether or not he went through the actual surgical procedure I don't know or care as it's his/her choice but him being considered a "professor" of pediatrics and psychology and the secretary of "health" in my opinion signifies something is drastically wrong with our "education" system.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

13 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

I don't have proof of aliens, I just look at how humans interface with Earth in a way that is unlike any other species.  I'm 60 years old and since I was 5 I've been thinking that something just isn't right.  Religion isn't right.  History isn't right.  The way we act in nature isn't right.  There's something fundamentally very wrong with us.  If we were an accident of Nature, then Nature really fucked up and created the very thing that is in the process of destroying it.  I don't think this is how Nature works.  Which begs the question, if Nature didn't create us, then how did we get here?  Did we travel here, or did someone from someplace else put/create us here?

 

I think someone or something came to realize that we thrive in chaos and controversy. Overcoming obstacles appears drives us. 

[alexa]

@Messenger Wow that was a long post you posted at me. Give me time to go through it and I'll get back to you.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

5 hours ago, Messenger said:

Only no one has yet been able to explain how "they" extract all the blood without a single drop being found on the ground, and not a single footprint in the area, and the wound cauterized. Greer claims it is done by a "paramilitary" group, but even doctors, as in surgeons, have said that it would be very difficult to drain the blood because of the vacuum it produces in the veins as it is drawn.

 

Plus, there are people to have reported seeing cattle hovering in the sky. One report said that a cow was found dead with all legs broken, as if it had been dropped from a considerable height.

 

Did you get to the part in the presentation when Schneider talks about how the aliens see us as "a bag of food"? And how they don't eat the bones but they use the "glandular secretions" as their nutrients and to get high... then he said "adrenochrome", I think.

 

So this is where the overlap is between alien and satanic, but if it is the satanic camp doing it then it doesn't explain how they cauterize the wounds so perfectly and have not spilled a single drop of blood, if we assume it is "paramilitary" and they are conducting that procedure from a helicopter.

 

We know the satanic camp are into the adrenochrome thing, well... we know based on hints that hollywood give us in movies, and I recall someone saying that Mel Gibson said that adrenochrome is its own currency in Hollywood. But the satanists, it seems many of them are very messy with the blood, smearing it all over, as I have seen with marina abramovich.

 

The clean scene around animal mutilations suggest to me that it is alien.

 

If it is alien, which I am inclined to believe more, then it makes more sense that they have advanced techniques to drain the blood and cauterize the wound and then drop off the animal without leaving any tracks.

 

Further, they seem to take specific organs and parts of the animal so as to be able to genetically rebuild the animal on another planet or in another part of the universe.

 

I think these two Montana sheriffs speak about it, but I've heard this cattle/animal mutilation topic discussed by many others. There are tons of vids on youtube of people talking about it.

 

 

Why leave any remains behind? At the speeds they travel they could dispose of any remains as shark food and zero footprint. Why are they left for us to find?

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

"factors that show the Earth as more likely being a sphere than flat, and you avoiding all of these factors that not only myself but millions of other people have also seen and experienced."

 

All any globe proponent needs to do is to use any one of those very expensive geostationary satellites and produce a single picture of our ball earth. Better still a live feed as it spins around. That would be compelling evidence. Ending any flat earth ideas super fast.

 

Throw in a live orbiting moon feed for good measure. 

[alexa]

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

I wasn't raised religious, my grandmother was strict Catholic but my mom and her siblings who attended catholic school were physically and mentally abused by catholic nuns and priests who beat them, so they have seen the true colors of religion, thankfully

 

firstly I am so sorry to hear about your mom and her siblings, I can't imagine what they must have gone through at the hands of

this corrupt catholic religion. This is not religion, this is a state of control.

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

that all of us have witnessed that religion is one of the main things that divide humanity and cause so many wars and destruction not only to us but to this beautiful planet. Israel and rothschild's zionism vs Christianity vs Islam vs Mormon vs Catholic, everyone believing that THEIR religion is the best.

 

I agree many religions have taken their focus off God.

 

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

So you can remain in what I view as a mental prison of religious dogma

 

The fact that I am spiritually with God sets me free above all this religious dogma.

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

So, if the alien/UFO topic is not for you, then you are welcome to not read my posts, because it is certainly a topic that fascinates me. 

 

I may not agree with you but I always look at both sides of the argument

[rooey]

On 6/20/2020 at 1:08 PM, Dawn said:

My “friend” posted this to fb with the caption: “Can you see me?” Then pretended he was talking about the deer by the broken fence panel. They think it is hilarious that we don’t know they are among us. 
 

This fucking forum. I post actual pictures of aliens among us and ...crickets. Truthers my ass. 

quite hard to make out anything. can you circle the areas they are in ? 

[rooey]

17 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

 

 

One of my favorite science fiction TV series is Expanse.  It's so very well done.  In season 1, the inhabitants of Mars, which is it's own independent state in the solar system, are presented as having a single planetary goal of terraforming their planet to the point of having an atmosphere, clouds, weather/precipitation, lakes, rivers and an ocean.  They're single minded enough that they understand that it's all hands on deck and multi-generational, likely taking 200-300 years or more.

 

 

 

 

predictive programming? 

[Jack]

14 minutes ago, rooey said:

quite hard to make out anything. can you circle the areas they are in ? 

 

[kj35]

20 hours ago, THESTRONG-THEVALIANT said:

Proof will be a hard one... it is hard enough to get proof of "normal" corrupt affairs, so this is just as hard. Second problem is, even if there is truth and proof, it might still be unbelievable for you OR someone else. 

 

In the end it is up to you. When will YOU get YOUR compelling evidence. Almost everything is designed so that truth won't be told with ease... as we know here - people are usually killed when too much is told... Not always. The variables are endless... sometimes people survive even if they are tried to be killed by the cabal for example - that suggests to me that there are other forces at play in the universe than just Aliens... Something or someone in this Universe I believe is protecting truth... That's why David Icke's material hasn't been quenched... Now when I'm thinking about it, I remember, David Icke himself said that in the beginning of his truth days, he got the message: "we will protect".

 

In the Neruda interviews (from 1998) - ETs/Aliens are mentioned. Proof? That's for you to decide ! 

 

The words ET and Alien show up in the following contexts 

 

 

Jeez this stuff is excellent do you mind me asking how you came by this? .  There's some disinformation there but it is hanging a lot of stuff together. I'm wracking my brain as the time capsules and wingmaker name is so familiar and I can't put my finger on where I've heard it before. 

Edited June 21, 2020 by kj35