Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I'm a 3D modeler myself and one thing that is interesting is how it doesn't take too long to model a pretty convincing Earth in a free modeling program like Blender after watching some tutorials, just imagine the crap NASA can pull with their budget. Yes. Now imagine animating it convincingly year round 24/7. I say impossible. Producing such evidence would be a breeze if the claims of deep space exploits were not being issued by pathological liars and cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: I understand you might feel that taking it literally has better effect to incite ridicule. ? I answered your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 No real picture or streaming video of a ball earth in over 60 years of deep space exploration and they call us nuts lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Yes. Now imagine animating it convincingly year round 24/7. I say impossible. Producing such evidence would be a breeze if the claims of deep space exploits were not being issued by pathological liars and cheats. Again. Because it would be full of alien activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, kj35 said: ? I answered your question. Yes. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Avoiceinthecrowd said: No real picture or streaming video of a ball earth in over 60 years of deep space exploration and they call us nuts lol. Again off topic. Still derailing. has been answered . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 @AvoiceinthecrowdYou've literally buried pages of info in nonsense. Your boss will be pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, kj35 said: Again. Because it would be full of alien activity. But meteors are just hurling flaming space dust and debris lol. They fly in formation like ufo, they are bright like ufo, they hum like ufo but they are just rocks that never fall anywhere. Is the rock meteor story also concocted to hide alien activity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: But meteors are just hurling flaming space dust and debris lol. They fly in formation like ufo, they are bright like ufo, they hum like ufo but they are just rocks that never fall anywhere. Is the rock meteor story also concocted to hide alien activity? Whats your point? I'm confused what you are arguing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, kj35 said: Again off topic. Still derailing. has been answered . You have not convinced anyone that it can be faked. Not accepting half an answer is not derailment. This is not a train on tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, kj35 said: Whats your point? I'm confused what you are arguing here. Same thing you are. That they are hiding truths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: You have not convinced anyone that it can be faked. Not accepting half an answer is not derailment. This is not a train on tracks. Nor is it a FE thread. I'm not answering anything else that details this thread. I think we can see what you are up to here. Edited June 23, 2020 by kj35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Yes. Now imagine animating it convincingly year round 24/7. I say impossible. Producing such evidence would be a breeze if the claims of deep space exploits were not being issued by pathological liars and cheats. NASA has so much computing firepower at their disposal that they could fake a live feed of earth 24/7 right down to accurately changing weather and a realtime simulation of sunlight interacting with 3D volumetric clouds and different atmospheric layers. They already have accurate computer models for all that stuff. What you see in Hollywood movies can be rendered in realtime if you have a few thousand networked CPUs/GPUs at your disposal. Not that NASA would need to do this - Earth is SPHERICAL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HistoryIsComplex said: NASA has so much computing firepower at their disposal that they could fake a live feed of earth 24/7 right down to accurately changing weather and a realtime simulation of sunlight interacting with 3D volumetric clouds and different atmospheric layers. They already have accurate computer models for all that stuff. What you see in Hollywood movies can be rendered in realtime if you have a few thousand networked CPUs/GPUs at your disposal. Not that NASA would need to do this - Earth is SPHERICAL. You forget that image forgery experts also have advanced tools for detecting forgeries. I say if they could they would stream a ball earth 24/7 complete with adverts and political analysis of the streaming content. They would trip over themselves literally to put it up if they could. Same for the moon or any other place these clowns claim they journeyed. Edited June 23, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, kj35 said: Nor is it a FE thread. I'm not answering anything else that details this thread. I think we can see what you are up to here. Flat earth is relevant to this topic inasmuch as it discredits the idea of aliens arriving from the deep vacuum of space. Derailment my a.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Flat earth is relevant to this topic inasmuch as it discredits the idea of aliens arriving from the deep vacuum of space. Derailment my a.. "To our aliens from space believers: Please post your best proofs that they exist, have been here, or have interbred with humanity" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Not To our aliens from space NON believers: Please post your best proofs that they DONT exist, have NOT been here, or have NOT interbred with humanity BECAUSE YOU THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT AND SPACE DOESNT EXIST AND THE PLANETS IN THE SKY ARE DISCS some crossover ..yes..not this much though Edited June 23, 2020 by kj35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kj35 said: "To our aliens from space believers: Please post your best proofs that they exist, have been here, or have interbred with humanity" Here again. NASA has the advanced ability to produce a fake spinning ball earth streaming video but they don't to hide alien activity yet these same authorities produce all kinds of fakes to push the alien agenda into the spotlight. Makes you wonder who the real kooks and wishful thinkers are. Edited June 23, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, kj35 said: AND THE PLANETS IN THE SKY ARE DISCS Not discs. Orbs, luminaries. I have seen them up close. They don't even appear solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: You forget that image forgery experts also have advanced tools for detecting forgeries. I say if they could they would stream a ball earth 24/7 complete with adverts and political analysis of the streaming content. They would trip over themselves literally to put it up if they could. Same for the moon or any other place these clowns claim they journeyed. I went to a NASA presentation on a Moon Rover/Mars Rover type nearly 20 years ago. The NASA 3D CGI even BACK THEN was mindblowingly high quality. You would have a very, very hard time telling a sufficiently high fidelity 3D simulation of Earth apart from a real video feed in 2020. They can simulate that shit down to tiny specks of dirt on the camera lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, HistoryIsComplex said: I went to a NASA presentation on a Moon Rover/Mars Rover type nearly 20 years ago. The NASA 3D CGI even BACK THEN was mindblowingly high quality. You would have a very, very hard time telling a sufficiently high fidelity 3D simulation of Earth apart from a real video feed in 2020. They can simulate that shit down to tiny specks of dirt on the camera lens. You would be amazed what image analysts can do. Even back in the days of the moonlandings they possessed imaging abilities at par with Hollywood special effects yet every stinking flaw in the deception was uncovered. What can you expect from a lazy pack if theives that believe you can present 4500 pictures without stars as evidence to keep the treasury doors wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Not discs. Orbs, luminaries. I have seen them up close. They don't even appear solid. Might that be because multiple layers of semi-transparent atmospheric clouds were passing in front of the stars/planets as you were peering through the telescope? I've seen the Youtube videos of stars flickering and wavering like they are made of liquid mercury. Shot with DSLR cameras with large zoom lenses. That is very high up clouds + the massive Zoom factor of the Telescope making the stars flicker, deform and waver. Also, the digital image sensor of a DSLR camera cannot capture stars/planets very well. DSLR's are not designed for stargazing. If you replaced the DSLR camera with a 35mm/70mm film camera, you'd probably see something less funky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoryIsComplex Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 One more thing - can we please keep Flat Earth crap out of this thread? The thread was about something completely different and you've turned it into a Flat Earth fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, HistoryIsComplex said: Might that be because multiple layers of semi-transparent atmospheric clouds were passing in front of the stars/planets as you were peering through the telescope? I've seen the Youtube videos of stars flickering and wavering like they are made of liquid mercury. Shot with DSLR cameras with large zoom lenses. That is very high up clouds + the massive Zoom factor of the Telescope making the stars flicker, deform and waver. Also, the digital image sensor of a DSLR camera cannot capture stars/planets very well. DSLR's are not designed for stargazing. If you replaced the DSLR camera with a 35mm/70mm film camera, you'd probably see something less funky. In the least they don't remotely look like the cg models presented by the space fibbers. To me they appeared as though viewed through a liquid medium. As though they were the product of some form of advanced sonoluminescence. Their varied colors and appearance seems modulated by some form of frequency fluctuations. Just my ideas on the impression I got from observing them up close. Not as close as some could but close enough to get the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Ok, I will state that meteors and asteroids are not rocks or space dust. I really want to see compelling evidence that they are. The research I have done has yielded a mess of contradictions and of course the usual heaping helping of elementary physics denials. Lets see the evidence that drives this belief in space rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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