Given To Fly Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 11:33 AM, rideforever said: The idea that Jesus "died for our sins" ... I have many questions about. i have questions too about everything and every narrative we are told, including biblical, but i can soundly say that there was / is a brilliant light being that existed known as Jesus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: All I know is that guy - Hawass is it, has blocked and refused many archeological requests over the last 20 odd years to explore the pyramids and surrounding areas. So I'm not sure 'accepted' egyptology is to be trusted. Well for instance, anyone who visited the Giza plateau will be able to tell you that the whole area is full of deep shafts and secret tunnels, there is also a great deal of water erosion damage everywhere including inside the pyramids themselves. Inside the pyramids the chambers are full of salt peter/ ammonium nitrate because there is so much water just under the surface which seeps into the stones. This tells us the whole area was likely full of water in ancient times which has only recently subsided. Perhaps the theory that the Pyramid was a giant hydraulic ram water pump are correct. There's a lot in that, and that is not a theory supported by mainstream Egyptologists. There are visible tunnels underneath the Sphinx for instance which clearly indicate that the Sphinx was used as an oracle where the priest of Oracle would enter the head of the Sphinx and 'speak' for the Sphinx. Hawass is nothing but a dumbass and pawn of the Egyptian government who want to restrict access to the site because they, perhaps rightfully, fear some weird kind of Freemasonic disinformation campaign, which is why they prevented the year 2000 ceremony which was planned by the arch bullshitter Graham Hancock and his Freemasonic coterie. They claimed a Zionist Freemasonic agenda behind it and they were probably right. Freemasonry is rightfully illegal in Egypt. The poor pyramid is full of dumb hippies every lunchtime who book it for an hour during which it is closed to the public, once had the misfortune to be locked in with these gormless fools. Edited July 26, 2020 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 8:19 PM, Truthspoon said: I remember you Marpat..... you're the Crowley-ite Middle-East Defence contractor. Spent your time in Iraq killing Arabs for Uncle Netanyahu. Know your enemy people. He is here among us. Marpat has a long long history on the old Icke Forums..... I have never worked in the middle east or been a defense contractor. Never kiiled a person and never been to Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: i have questions too about everything and every narrative we are told, including biblical, but i can soundly say that there was / is a brilliant light being that existed known as Jesus. Even the devil can appear as a being of light according to the teachings of Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: I have never worked in the middle east or been a defense contractor. Never kiiled a person and never been to Iraq. Took you two days to come up with that denial did it? Did you consult with your superiors and have a committee meeting on what to say? I'm not interested in your lies. I know what you are from the old Icke forum. Edited July 26, 2020 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 8:22 PM, Truthspoon said: This shows a lack of judgement on your part. This man is the snake from the garden of Eden. He is drawing you into the abyss. I suggest you don't fall in. The abyss of 'Jews are good' which will eventually become 'we must kill more Muslims and invade their countries'. Look up Marpat.... It's the camouflage of the American marines in Iraq. Gotta wake up people.........see how easy it is to be caught in the devil's spell? Actually its just Marine Pattern camoflauge. They were using it before the war in Iraq. They just made a desert version for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Took you two days to come up with that denial did it? Did you consult with your superiors and have a committee meeting on what to say? I'm not interested in your lies. I know what you are from the old Icke forum. Well I have a life you know. Seems like you are full of fear and paranoia. Anyway, why are you trying to stir trouble for me? arent christians meant to be full of love and forgiveness? dont you turn the other cheek? Edited July 26, 2020 by MarpatV2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Even the devil can appear as a being of light according to the teachings of Jesus i don't know your beliefs, but do you believe in the power of prayer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Given To Fly said: i don't know your beliefs, but do you believe in the power of prayer ? I believe in the power of the mind and prayer is one way of directing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: Well some would say you have this backwards. There appears to be evidence that the Giza pyramids were built first and all the others came later and show a decline or loss of knowledge about how to build pyramids. The fact that your theory coincides with accepted Egyptology could be seen as a red flag on the DIF forum, like quoting from Wiki is frowned upon on here. All I know is that guy - Hawass is it, has blocked and refused many archeological requests over the last 20 odd years to explore the pyramids and surrounding areas. So I'm not sure 'accepted' egyptology is to be trusted. There are many books offering theories of the Giza pyramids being built around 10,000 BC and as Oz has pointed out the evidence of water errosion supports that theory. I was recently thinking this. The fact is the great pyramid is clearly the most sophisticated of Egyptian pyramids and has a subtle design showing 8 sides, that no other have. It could well be that other pyramids were attempts to recreate its design without knowledge of how it was done, leading to various odd pyramid ruins left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: I believe in the power of the mind and prayer is one way of directing it. your avatar is ethiopian orthodox tewahedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Moonlight said: your avatar is ethiopian orthodox tewahedo I know. I really like their art. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, MarpatV2 said: I know. I really like their art. yes I like their art too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Moonlight said: yes I like their art too The colours are just so vibrant. Far better than the miserable stuff western christians produce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: The colours are just so vibrant. Far better than the miserable stuff western christians produce hmmm yes its very colorful....they like to decorate and celebrate their religious festivals Edited July 26, 2020 by Moonlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Moonlight said: hmmm yes its very colorful....they like to decorate and celebrate their religous festivals Recently I watched a documentary about Etheopian christians and they had to climb up some really steep cliffs to get the baby christened and then celebrate mass at the church built into the cliff. Really dangerous stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: Recently I watched a documentary about Etheopian christians and they had to climb up some really steep cliffs to get the baby christened and then celebrate mass at the church built into the cliff. Really dangerous stuff. lalibela maybe .... I think that´s their sacred place where there is also some sort of holy spring water...all ethiopians have to go there once I guess .... its in the mountains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Moonlight said: lalibela maybe .... I think that´s their sacred place where there is also some sort of holy spring water...all ethiopians have to go there once I guess .... its in the mountains Think this is it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 its this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Given To Fly said: i have questions too about everything and every narrative we are told, including biblical, but i can soundly say that there was / is a brilliant light being that existed known as Jesus Yes and we have to have answers, because questions don't answers things. Did Jesus die for our sins? What does that actually mean? He said that this generation of sinners would get nothing but the sign of Jonah ... and that you reap what you sow ... and that narrow is the gate leading to Life ... So, is clear that not everybody is going to get to "heaven". And what is "heaven" actually in reality ? .. we have to strip away the vast baggage and come to some simply understanding. "Heaven" is a higher being that is actualised in a person through his spiritual practices which renders him into the world of Consciousness which is outside of the world of animals .. and being there your identity no longer perishes with the body ... it is permanent as it is directly supported by the Source or God. That's an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Moonlight said: its this No, Im sire its the one I posted. They had to climb about 200m to get up there. It was the grandmother carrying the baby on her back as the mother didnt feel wll. Some guts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 it´s complete built inside this rock...a little wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MarpatV2 said: I was recently thinking this. The fact is the great pyramid is clearly the most sophisticated of Egyptian pyramids and has a subtle design showing 8 sides, that no other have. It could well be that other pyramids were attempts to recreate its design without knowledge of how it was done, leading to various odd pyramid ruins left behind. It was originally covered with polished white limestone casing stones. It is unlikely that it would have originally shown eight sides. The fact is probably purely incidental and just an effect of the way the pyramid was constructed. Possibly with a central spine ramp and the stones were laid radiating out from this central spine which would create a residual effect of it having eight sides. Edited July 26, 2020 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rideforever said: Yes and we have to have answers, because questions don't answers things. Did Jesus die for our sins? What does that actually mean? He said that this generation of sinners would get nothing but the sign of Jonah ... and that you reap what you sow ... and that narrow is the gate leading to Life ... So, is clear that not everybody is going to get to "heaven". And what is "heaven" actually in reality ? .. we have to strip away the vast baggage and come to some simply understanding. "Heaven" is a higher being that is actualised in a person through his spiritual practices which renders him into the world of Consciousness which is outside of the world of animals .. and being there your identity no longer perishes with the body ... it is permanent as it is directly supported by the Source or God. That's an answer. Personally I dont believe that. Jesus said his mission was the redemption of Israel, to turn sinner to back to God. Paul created the christianity we know, with the world saviour, etc. because it was useful to the Romans. Even jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within. I think the whole died for our sins story is just to use guilt as a form of submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarpatV2 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Moonlight said: it´s complete built inside this rock...a little wonder Im sure I saw a Hindu temple like that too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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