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6 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

I postponed replying to your post initially because I wanted to allow some time to mull over it rather than responding immediately. I agree with some of what you say in your post. I don't abide by any form of animal cruelty yet I still eat meat, which I realize is somewhat of a contradiction. I have considered becoming a vegetarian a number of times but probably due to lack of application on my part haven't got round to it....yet?

 

However, we evolved as 'hunter gatherers' and have survived and multiplied through variations of that diet for the last hundred thousand years or so. I don't think it would be wise to try to change a hundred thousand years of evolution in one generation, and certainly not by some sort of forced transfer from something shown to work to something still in it's infancy.

Yes I agree that through greed and ignorance the methodology we have recently evolved into is wrong, but that does not necessarily mean that the basic concept is wrong.

I personally believe that John Seymour, who is considered to be the godfather of self-sufficiency had the right balance, you raise animals in their natural environment where they experience the elements throughout their lives, then when the time comes you end it swiftly and humanely.

This is a much better ending than most creatures get in nature, where they're either eaten alive, die of starvation, or suffer the slow, painful death of old age.

 

Nature is cruel. Plants are eaten by insects which are eaten by other insects which are eaten by birds which are eaten by predators, which eventually die and are absorbed by plants which are eaten by insects etc. It's all very well talking about birds in trees eating berries, but most of nature is not like that, it's a constant struggle for survival. You see a documentary focused on an antelope, and you're saddened by the antelope being killed by a lion. You see a documentary focused on a lioness and her cubs, and you're saddened if the cubs are dying due to starvation. Well sorry but either the antelope dies or the cubs die. That's the nature of this reality we find ourselves in.

When I moved here three years ago, one of the first things I did was get some ex-battery hens. I figured I'd give them a better life of a taste of freedom, and maybe get the occasional egg to boot. I went out one day and one of them was lying bloodied on the ground, the others were essentially pecking it to death. Why? I don't know, but I had to euthanize it myself to put it out of it's misery.

Last year I built a raised bed at the top of the garden, then covered it over to suppress any weeds. This year I went up to plant some vegetables and when I lifted the cover, there was a whole micro-system of insects and all sorts of small creatures scurrying for cover. So do I destroy this whole ecosystem to plant some vegetables? There are no simple answers in nature, and everything you do has consequences.

 

You alluded to this next possibility in your post. Do plants feel pain?

I remember reading an experiment which showed that through a series of underground hairlike fibers trees have the ability to communicate. I've actually seen these fibers myself when I dug up some ground near trees. So although we may not be able to detect it, do carrots scream in agony when we pull them from their habitat, skin them alive, chop them up and boil them?

 

 

Cows are not bad for the earth. Too many cows may be bad for the earth, but too many of any species (including humans) are. Nature regulates this by supply and demand. To use your example too many birds eating berries and the berry supply dwindles causing a population drop in birds due to lack of food. The problem occurs when nature is overridden by artificial means.

What about the “low frequency” meat eaten by carnivores? Wolves have been eating low frequency meat for longer than humanity has been around? I think any creature being eaten alive must surely be emitting a low frequency, or does low frequency only affect humans?

And, what do you propose to do with all the dogs of the world? Should they all be eradicated?

There are a lot of people here who would regard their dog or dogs to be part of their family, me included, so what are you suggesting for those carnivores?

And please don't go down the “alternative feeding” route by suggesting they can be converted to plant based diets. I know from research and personal experience that dogs require meat, and preferably raw meat. You cannot change a digestive system which has evolved over millennia in a generation.

I also think it's a bit disingenuous to suggest that people with cancer are simply the victims of their own stupidity. Maybe some are due to their poor eating habits, but there are others who are simply unfortunate. There are many carcinogenic elements exposed by living in today's society to which people have no knowledge of due to information being suppressed. I only recently watched the movie “Dark Waters” about the DuPont Teflon scandal. Are you suggesting those people were victims of their own stupidity merely by using a particular cooking utensil?

 

Nothing is black and white. The problem arises when people presume they have a clear singular solution to a complex set of issues, and wish to force that solution onto everyone. Just as I will not wear a mask or take a vaccine because a small group of people decide that is what I should do, I will not eat bugs for the same reason. Nobody or no one small group has all the answers in my view.

I'm not talking about you in this instance because I know that you at least partially grow your own food, but there are people attempting to make decisions regarding food and nature who have never grown a thing in their lives or even walked in a field. It's ludicrous, and they have no right to dictate to others when all they have are vague theories and no experience.

So should we adapt a more humane and ethical approach to animal husbandry? Absolutely.

Should we adopt a more responsible approach to healthy diet? Of course.

Should we seek to enforce our dietary beliefs on the entire world population? No we shouldn't.

Storm, I could not agree more with you and in my haste to post the other day I certainly failed to convey all those technicalities you pointed out.

 

For the record I do not have a problem with any person who wants to consume meat or dairy, in fact I still do eat fish and pizza once in a while. My issue is with the slaughterhouses and dairy farms and how those animals are mistreated quite possibly every day of their life. I've seen some very ugly stuff in only two videos, and years ago there was a law passed that said something along the lines of, no person shall film on the premises of a such and such establishment pertaining to dairy or slaughterhouses. This to me is the dark force trying to hide their misdeeds.

 

There are things taking place that humanity does not believe are happening because they can't physically see it, specifically with frequency and energy in a few different industries one agriculture and what we consider "food", and the other the aerospace industry and physics, and I believe that the one aspect of "food" is one of a few reasons in which humanity are so sick, because they are taking in such negative energy from these animals.

 

I'm not talking about small farms where animals are allowed to roam free, that's completely different, but the fact remains that meat is on the acid side of the pH scale as are most of the vegetables humanity have become conditioned to believe are good for them when in fact they are not. Most of what people know about food is wrong, and it seems that many people don't want to admit it because then they would have to change their belief system and behavior and it's more than many people want to do. If most of what people knew about food wasn't wrong, there would be far less sick people in the world.

 

Also, I guess I'm just tired of people wanting sympathy for their cousin, brother, sister, father, mother, friends car mechanic hair dressers daughter who knows a guy who died of some sort of cancer pick one because there is a cancer for everything now since humanity are eating all kinds of chemicals and crap that they don't know what it is and they can't even pronounce the ingredients but who cares let's eat it anyway because it tastes good and the packaging has bright flashy colors and everyone's doing it.

 

I suppose I'm a bad person then for my lack of sympathy to people who are refusing to admit that something humanity have been doing for centuries turns out may not be benefiting us and that's the many things we consider food which actually should not be considered food. Much of humanity's health problems would vanish overnight if they stopped eating certain things.

 

My mother is 66 years young and is always mistaken for my girlfriend when we go out for a drink. She lives in a senior 55+ community and she feels like she doesn't even belong there, most of the people are sick with some sort of ailment. The lady down her hall has told people that she has "blood cancer" and one day while I was visiting my mom I overheard the blood cancer lady taking food advice from the obese lady across the hall. The obese lady was telling the blood cancer lady to eat tuna and more meat!

 

Two of the men at her community building can barely walk they are so large both have mini vans and use walkers and they are the same age as my mom who frequently goes for walks and looks like she's in her mid 50's.

 

It is my belief that there are too many cows on Earth, it's mostly what people eat, I would bet that beef makes up at least 50% of the "food" industry, that and corn. So we are wasting thousands upon thousands of acres of land to grow corn which has zero nutritional value so that we can feed it to cows and pigs which we slaughter to eat which then give us cancer. Then those people go burn themselves with chemo "therapy" to try and get rid of the cancer cells and then they tell their sob story and everyone is supposed to feel sorry for them. Knowledge and experience have brought me past that feeling sorry stage.

 

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to see how wrong that model is, but the allopathic medical industry thrive on people's ignorance to food and the bigger picture because the more people who wake up to how wrong it is, the more corona virus psyops will be needed to scare people back into dependence upon the very system that is killing them.

 

At what point do humanity wake up and say, we are doing this incorrectly. It's the same thing with politics. Humanity are losing the battle because they are doing the same thing over and over again.

 

Yes I believe the fruits and veggies can feel when they are pulled from the ground and chopped up but as you said, nature is cruel and IMO as I said I believe that picking fruits from trees are far less aggressive than piling animals into cages to where they cannot even move for the duration of their life.

 

Nature can be cruel and we need to eat to survive and it is my belief based on the past few years of research and my own eating lifestyle that eating items which are on the alkaline side of the pH scale are far more healthy than items which are on the acid side, and my physical condition and abilities are proof. Humans are certainly different genetically than wolves and other carnivores. IMO humans are not carnivores, we do not have the same kind of teeth for piercing flesh nor the same digestive system to break down meat which is why many doctors have said that the average human being has X percentage of undigested red meat in their gut. Right there that should be enough to turn on that light bulb for meat eaters to reconsider what they are eating, but people can be very stubborn and addicted to their vices.

 

Dogs, I love dogs, I have had several in my life and regarded all of them as family members, my most recent two I regarded as my children. There is an active campaign to spay and neuter cats, just as there is an active campaign to get humans to stop procreating (social engineering with lgbt, and vaccines for two examples). I think we need less dog breeders who are only in it for the money and ego of saying, "pure bred" much like the old bloodline families focus on genetics to keep their lineage "pure", and instead we need more people who adopt dogs and cats from shelters.

 

My last two dogs were adopted and we fed them blue buffalo brand of dog food, which I wasn't thrilled about but their stools were solid and they were healthy dogs overall. Looking back at it if I were conscious of it at the time I would have fed them what my dad was feeding his dog for years, a mix of veggies and meat and eggs. My dad would scramble a batch of eggs and then break up portions into seven meals for the week with a mixture of canned chicken, peas, carrots and rice and freeze it in single bags. She, a Maltese, lived for sixteen years.

 

Overall I believe that humanity find themselves in a predicament caused by several behaviors, and I don't believe that it was a mistake that I was one day guided to understanding that we need more farmers of alkaline food. This would also help humanity take their power back from the corporations and NWO apparatus who are trying to reduce us to nothing. If we have abundant food people would not need to depend on the government or on the corporate grocery industry which is why I so heavily preach about starting a garden and growing food.

 

Lastly, I agree with what you are saying and also, I'm not perfect, sometimes I'm a moron too and I can admit it which is why I call other people a moron from time to time when I see it. People should be free to eat what they want but I think it's important to be conscious and aware of where that "food" comes from and if it actually provides nutrition the body needs. If the "food" people are eating is so nutritious then why are there so many sick people in the world?

 

Thanks for your response, Storm, I hope you have a nice day. 🙏 🌞 🌍🌱 🌼

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On 8/6/2020 at 8:49 PM, Messenger said:

Good afternoon Bollocks,

 

Yeah it's a eye opening video alright, and that's only the tip of the iceberg so to speak.

 

People say, well plants are highly conscious too, and I agree, but they are in their natural habitat, planted in the ground, in Earth, their branches and leaves able to sway in the breeze and grow thanks to the sunlight, exactly how they are normally out in the "wild". Birds can still nest and sit on their branches, squirrel's can still frolic and run through the trees, etc. Picking their fruit seems to me the least invasive and aggressive form of gathering food for us to sustain life. Trees produce fruit and vegetables that are naturally alkaline/electric, that to me is God speaking to us.

 

Items that are man made are acidic, that is the work of the black magicians and those who like to play God. See pigs and cows and orange carrots and soy. Where did cows come from? They seem to be a cross breed between water buffalo and something else.

 

Quorn, since you asked. :classic_biggrin: I'm an avid ingredient-label-reader now, so the first thing I did was search for that and right away I see stuff that I would not eat. Canola oil (Canada oil, research that one), "natural flavor" (such as?), milk proteins, potato maltodextrin (starch), sugar, and eggs. Oh and whatever mycoprotein is, some sort of mold. :classic_blink: Bottom line though is that whatever that product is, it is on the acid side of the pH scale, so it is not providing energy as in rebuilding cells.

 

I saw this quorn product on the shelf when I worked at whole foods but I never looked at it too close. It was big around Thanksgiving, they offered a meatless turkey meal. I wouldn't eat anything they offered. The produce department is the real health care system and humanity's best friend.

 

Here is a basic dish I put together, I eat this often. Pasta or quinoa. Usually these days I am laying down a bed of quinoa. Pasta I do a few times a month. Then in a pot I pour 4 cups of water, shake some salt and onion powder in, turn on heat in between low and medium (number 4 setting). I have been using the pink himylayan salt. Then I wash my kale and tear it from the stem and tear it into bite size pieces. Then chop up and add zucchini, then chop up and add red bell pepper, then chop and add baby bella shrooms, then tear up pieces of basil and add them. Stir, cover and let the flavors blend and the kale "relax" so it's not so tough/stiff.

 

Then after about four to five minutes turn off the stove and pour the now vegetable broth over the quinoa and then the rest into a glass. Edit, forgot, then top with walnuts. Then add the veggies to the bowl of quinoa and garnish it with half a chopped avocado and some fresh basil.

 

Done, enjoy. The glass is a veggie broth like tea full of nutrients.



BIG respect and thanks to you Messenger!   I Love it!   ......... and your post made me absoloutely crease up with laughter when I saw:

"Good afternoon Bollocks"  😄

Brilliant, you and I are a little alike in that I am a soft git (and rightly so I believe(  - I always help insects, bees, beetles butterflies anything at all if I can
    It's a wonderful feeling that - unconditional love and caring - for free - for the heck of it, I agree it makes me happy too. Much respect for that too.
(great post reply by storm too,)

I am re-looking at quorn now - and going to try that recipe, cheers.

 

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51 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:



BIG respect and thanks to you Messenger!   I Love it!   ......... and your post made me absoloutely crease up with laughter when I saw:

"Good afternoon Bollocks"  😄

Brilliant, you and I are a little alike in that I am a soft git (and rightly so I believe(  - I always help insects, bees, beetles butterflies anything at all if I can
    It's a wonderful feeling that - unconditional love and caring - for free - for the heck of it, I agree it makes me happy too. Much respect for that too.
(great post reply by storm too,)

I am re-looking at quorn now - and going to try that recipe, cheers.

 

LOL

 

Thank you and BIG respect to you as well "Bollocks". 🙏 :classic_laugh: Glad I could get you laughing, I really feel that laughter is a great way to heal people as well.

 

Nice to know that you are one of the good guys who help the smaller creatures, I love bees too, we really need them. All of them play a part in this magnificent ecosystem.

 

Thank you and you're welcome to everyone, I just hope to help people and animals heal from humanity's greed and ignorance. I was there once too and still am with many things, I am not all knowing but I share what I feel works based on real world experience.

 

The Quorn stuff is not as bad as some other stuff I've seen, at least it doesn't contain soy, that particular item anyway.

 

Try the recipe, I hope you enjoy it. Make a batch of quinoa first, it takes about fifteen to twenty minutes to make. Two cups into a pot, four cups of water. It looks like a lot of water but the quinoa absorbs it and it also evaporates. Stir to get all the seeds submerged and wet. Set heat to high and bring it to a boil. Once boiling, set heat to low, stir, and cover. Set timer to fifteen minutes.

 

It should come out light and fluffy with visible tiny sprouts protruding from each seed. Use that as your foundation for your veggies. Or some pasta works works too if you need more substance but I feel the pasta is heavier for me, the quinoa is light, if you will.

 

Cheers.

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On 8/7/2020 at 9:03 PM, Messenger said:

Storm, I could not agree more with you and in my haste to post the other day I certainly failed to convey all those technicalities you pointed out.

 

Hey Messenger, haven't been on here today and didn't get a chance to reply....sorry🙂

I think we're essentially singing from the same hymn sheet...maybe we occasionally sing different verses but it's the same song.

It's late here so I'm not going to waffle on ....I promise,.

I'm presuming you reside in the US, and judging from what you were saying I'd imagine there is a lot of intensive farming and mono culture harvesting there. Although there would probably be exceptions here in Ireland, the large majority of farming is conducted in a more traditional way. Cattle are in fields eating grass, and in fact that is precisely  the situation  right here and now, with cows grazing in the fields opposite and behind me. I don't think the climate is even conducive to growing corn here. So cows do what comes naturally, grazing the fields in the sun and rain and wind.  When the cows are finished grazing they usually bring in horses or sheep into the fields, because as you're no doubt aware cows pull the grass with their tongue's while horses and sheep nibble with their teeth.

I totally agree that we should treat all animals and creatures with respect, which would be one of my basic core beliefs. I've rescued a whole armada of creatures in the time I've been here..including bees, birds, frogs, mice, worms, spiders and butterflies, even though some of them create problems for me at a later date ( mice get into the house come winter time, butterflies produce caterpillars that eat my veg etc.). But that's just another contradiction you have to accept when living with nature, right?

The one problem I had with your initial post and especially in relation to the CA promotion of an insect based diet was that I (probably in error) assumed you were endorsing same.

One of the (many) issues I have with any sort of globalist agenda is that they tend to promote solutions to world problems based solely on their geographical location and adopt a "one size fits all" solution. What might be a problem in CA may be a non issue here.

Anyway as promised I'm not going to waffle on, so I'll leave it at that for now and 'have a nice day' 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

Hey Messenger, haven't been on here today and didn't get a chance to reply....sorry🙂

I think we're essentially singing from the same hymn sheet...maybe we occasionally sing different verses but it's the same song.

It's late here so I'm not going to waffle on ....I promise,.

I'm presuming you reside in the US, and judging from what you were saying I'd imagine there is a lot of intensive farming and mono culture harvesting there. Although there would probably be exceptions here in Ireland, the large majority of farming is conducted in a more traditional way. Cattle are in fields eating grass, and in fact that is precisely  the situation  right here and now, with cows grazing in the fields opposite and behind me. I don't think the climate is even conducive to growing corn here. So cows do what comes naturally, grazing the fields in the sun and rain and wind.  When the cows are finished grazing they usually bring in horses or sheep into the fields, because as you're no doubt aware cows pull the grass with their tongue's while horses and sheep nibble with their teeth.

I totally agree that we should treat all animals and creatures with respect, which would be one of my basic core beliefs. I've rescued a whole armada of creatures in the time I've been here..including bees, birds, frogs, mice, worms, spiders and butterflies, even though some of them create problems for me at a later date ( mice get into the house come winter time, butterflies produce caterpillars that eat my veg etc.). But that's just another contradiction you have to accept when living with nature, right?

The one problem I had with your initial post and especially in relation to the CA promotion of an insect based diet was that I (probably in error) assumed you were endorsing same.

One of the (many) issues I have with any sort of globalist agenda is that they tend to promote solutions to world problems based solely on their geographical location and adopt a "one size fits all" solution. What might be a problem in CA may be a non issue here.

Anyway as promised I'm not going to waffle on, so I'll leave it at that for now and 'have a nice day' 🙂

 

Hi Storm,

 

Waffling? A waffle piled high with strawberries and blueberries sounds great right about now, hold the whipped cream but I will add some maple syrup. :classic_biggrin:

 

Kidding, I know what you mean.

 

Yes I am in the US but not in CA if that's what the "CA" means. I'm in the midwest, Illinois, where there are far too many corn fields wasting valuable space. All these corn fields could be walnuts or bartlett pears or blueberry farms, or strawberry, or kale, or bell pepper, or, the list goes on, but these fools are growing corn by the dump truck loads.

 

Not sure what this insect diet is but I will take a pass on it.

 

IMO vegetarian lifestyle (it's not a diet, I'm not trying to lose weight), is not a NWO agenda, it's a decision made by a person who has become conscious of the many horrific things taking place in the meat and dairy industry and the resulting lack of trust to get a hold of clean meat. That and realizing the importance that alkalinity plays in reducing mucus from the body thus maintaining an environment in the body where bacteria cannot thrive. I don't like being sick, I can't imagine anyone enjoys being sick.

 

Sounds like you are on a nice bit of land where the animals can roam but here in the states there are a lot of operations that are horrible animal abuse violators with animals packed in side by side. I'm sure there are some nice ranches with free roaming animals in the states, but Americans eat so much beef & pork that free roaming farms would not sustain society unless it was a huge ranch probably half the size of TX or CA and the animals were having offspring all the time. I believe that is where "meat glue" came into play, so that there would be less wasted scraps, thus the meat industry could maximize profit by selling scraps as prime cuts.

 

Note that this video was published to youtube in 2011, so this is nothing new. Not trying to gross anyone out but it is certainly something to be aware of if you do enjoy eating meat.

 

 

Have a nice evening, Storm. 🙂

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Ok so I found this today, I might have seen it months ago and forgot about it, but I have been debating where to post it and since this is a food thread I figure I can post it here.

 

As I have mentioned in several threads, why is pork so close to human skin? If people only knew how badly they have been deceived with what they have been taught to consider "food"...

 

And the fact that cannibalism is not illegal I find extremely disturbing. These are mentally ill people to say the least.

 

Why am I posting it in the food thread? To bring awareness to it.

 

Cannibal Club Restaurant. I looked briefly and did not see a location.

 

https://www.cannibalclub.org/faq.html

 

Under frequently asked questions:

 

What does human flesh taste like?

 

When prepared by us, unbelievable. Of the meats you are likely to find in stores, pork is the closest match.

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I remember from somewhere, that PIG is a ancient hybrid of human and some beast, that's why pigs are so similar to us and we can use their hearts etc...,now that would explain why eating pig is so bad for us, basically a form of 'energetic cannibalism'. I would be very grateful if anyone can offer up more information on this fascinating topic.

On 8/16/2020 at 3:09 PM, factJack said:

tv person simon cowell has ditched his vegan diet to speed up his recovery from a broken back. A glaring confession that the hyping of vegan life is to subvert and phsyically weaken the controlled masses if ever I saw one.

Also, should not take simon cowell seriously at all, seems a broken back wasn't the only thing he was recovering from !!! lol (his latest face)

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2 hours ago, megatron3 said:

I remember from somewhere, that PIG is a ancient hybrid of human and some beast, that's why pigs are so similar to us and we can use their hearts etc...,now that would explain why eating pig is so bad for us, basically a form of 'energetic cannibalism'. I would be very grateful if anyone can offer up more information on this fascinating topic.

Also, should not take simon cowell seriously at all, seems a broken back wasn't the only thing he was recovering from !!! lol (his latest face)

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There's a film called Alive. I'm sure it was mentioned it's more like chicken.

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On 8/16/2020 at 8:09 AM, factJack said:

tv person simon cowell has ditched his vegan diet to speed up his recovery from a broken back. A glaring confession that the hyping of vegan life is to subvert and phsyically weaken the controlled masses if ever I saw one.

Simon cowell? Really? That guy has zero credibility, he is one of "them" in the NWO mainstream media cult. Notice the compass and square sticker on the nose of the wave runner.

 

 

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The war on food continues in the last few days:

 

One beef farm no longer contracted to major supermarkets due to poor conditions for cows

Chicken processing plant for major supermarkets (cant remember where but another one) about 100 staff tested positive this week aparently

Wheat crops failed this year in many areas apparently due to weather conditions pushing the price up for wheat.

 

Its not looking good for this winter is it? Stock up on what you can while you can.

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3 hours ago, Alnitak said:

The war on food continues in the last few days:

 

One beef farm no longer contracted to major supermarkets due to poor conditions for cows

Chicken processing plant for major supermarkets (cant remember where but another one) about 100 staff tested positive this week aparently

Wheat crops failed this year in many areas apparently due to weather conditions pushing the price up for wheat.

 

Its not looking good for this winter is it? Stock up on what you can while you can.

 

100% agree.

People can talk about vaccines, masks, track and trace, lockdowns etc. all they like and yes these are all important aspects of control but the ultimate control weapon is food!

If people don't have food they will do anything and be subject to any form of control just to survive.

People say "I will never wear a mask" or "I will never take the vaccine", but if it's a choice between doing these things or watching your family starve, you will.

So stock up now, not when the panic sets in and the shelves are empty.

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I skim read my fathers financial times and there was an article about shopping at farmfoods over m&s or waitrose.

Was this an embedded clue to fill up chest freezers for the coming winter of discontent? This was my first thought when I read it. I believe farmfoods's niche is frozen food.

 

FT is behind a paywall however this is a snippet.

Rich People's Problems: Forget Ocado — I'm off to Farmfoods ...

5 days ago - There are more than 300 Farmfoods shops around the UK offering a veritable feast of deals on frozen food and other essentials from this .

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I invested in another freezer just a few days ago. I was initially dubious about doing this due to the possibility of power cuts, but thinking about it I cannot see this being a problem. 

They need to keep the power grid operating otherwise how would they continue feeding the propaganda? If your tv or phone or laptop isn't powered up, how would they inform people of lockdowns, restrictions, and "positive test numbers"?

I don't think there will necessarily be empty shelves and no food available in the coming months but instead a continuation of food price increases. I've noticed that some items have increased by up to 50% in the last month or so and I think this trend will continue to the point where by next spring the weekly shop will have trebled or quadrupled in cost.

They have to do it slowly otherwise there'll be mass rioting in the streets.

That's the way I see it panning out in the west, however in poorer countries or places where they already have complete control, there will be starvation by springtime.

You cannot cut off a large percentage of food production and not expect to have starvation happening somewhere.

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2 hours ago, Michi713 said:

The potato box works!  It’s a space efficient way to grow potatoes.  Planted it in late spring and harvested ten pounds of potatoes today!  (Don’t need the fancy metal posts, but you get the idea.)
 

https://www.finegardening.com/article/build-your-own-potato-growing-box

 

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These are great but you can grow potatoes in anything really, an old bucket, a bin bag, large flowerpot. They’re really easy to grow 

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Occasional toilet roll shortage, it's been rough trying to sustain my arsehole on the cardboard but luckily it's about 3 ply worth after being delayered and that gets me through 3 dumps a month. I hold onto everything I've got in case someone comes to take my shit. You know how these people think, if there's a TP shortage they'll expect a shit shortage is coming and will need to stock up just in case. I know Mr Gates has already been eyeing up some machines to recycle human caca (true story). Doubt the material investors will get paid for their time and labour though.

Truth be told my love for the rastafari keeps growing, they've set a good example of the value of food security when communities need it.
 

 

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