Food

[Thoth001]

3 hours ago, alexa said:

 

It stinks and as per Bill Gates is behind all this

I am not sure how accurate Benjamin Fuller is but this is what he just said about Gates. I am sure Gates will end up slapping his snake gums on the MSM somewhere. But this would be great, if true.

 

We can also confirm that excessive vaccine push Bill Gates has been executed for war crimes. Microsoft and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are now in the hands of White Hats. This can be confirmed by the stories about the divorce between Melinda Watson (of the Watson IBM family) and Bill Gates.

 

A campaign to ruin Bill Gates reputation by linking him to Jeff Epstein and other great things is further confirmation that this source is telling the truth. If Gates were alive, you can be sure he would be using his army of lawyers and PR agents to fight this.

 

https://eraoflight.com/2021/05/25/benjamin-fulford-full-report-war-is-declared-after-priory-of-sion-fails-to-respond/

 

 

 

 

[shadowmoon]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15159479/brits-grow-fruit-veg-tackle-climate-change/

PEOPLE should grow fruit and veg as part of a war effort-style push to tackle climate change.

 

 

Absolutely useless article, doesn't teach a single thing about growing anything, but does manage to throw in 'climate change' a good few times.

 

How many people especially under 30s have actually ever been taught how to grow plants for food?

 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

The MSM are now reporting that food shortages in the UK are inevitable because food is spoiling before it can reach the supermarkets. This is being blamed on a dearth of lorry drivers due to Brexit combined with lack of driver training during the pandemic.

 

Ice Age Farmer, Christian, takes us through the calculated steps being undertaken to destroy the food supply in order to present a technocratic solution of fake food.

 

 

[factJack]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57585105

 

using the crops to make fuel instead of food. all in the name of fighting climate.

[shadowmoon]

On 6/29/2021 at 12:14 AM, factJack said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57585105

 

using the crops to make fuel instead of food. all in the name of fighting climate.

I remember about 20 years back when people were running their cars on old chip shop oils.

Can't remember the exact details,  but sure the government put a stop to it? Probably with yet another tax or something? 

[Pawson13]

I see Morrisons have agree a £ 6.3 billion offer from a consortium of businesses, one of the main investors being Softbank.

 

I was told last week by someone that there is a risk that they will asset strip Morrisons, releasing value of their land, properties and other investments getting back their initial investment money. Then reducing the quality of the produce by selling a load of modified food to make it a, pile it high, sell it cheap business.

 

If it fails, it fails, but they would have done nicely from it by then.

 

Could this be a connection to the planned food shortages?

[Daithi]

20 hours ago, Pawson13 said:

I see Morrisons have agree a £ 6.3 billion offer from a consortium of businesses, one of the main investors being Softbank.

 

I was told last week by someone that there is a risk that they will asset strip Morrisons, releasing value of their land, properties and other investments getting back their initial investment money. Then reducing the quality of the produce by selling a load of modified food to make it a, pile it high, sell it cheap business.

 

If it fails, it fails, but they would have done nicely from it by then.

 

Could this be a connection to the planned food shortages?

 

I think the consortium possibly hopes to cash in when Amazon decide it will be better to just buy Morrisons outright for their UK Prime grocery business than share the profits in the current arrangement

 

Looking at Morrisons last annual report:

 

“With a very strong balance sheet, freehold store portfolio, net pension surplus, and strong underlying free cash flow, Morrisons continues to be well positioned to deliver for all its stakeholders.”

 

As you said in your post, surely that freehold store portfolio is a big reason for the purchase too. They'll be selling all of that very quickly to investment funds and leasing it back to Morrisons. This will make sure that no small investor or worker can ever get any real investor value from another big chunk of British retail ever again. Massive amounts of corporation tax will also evaporate never again to benefit the downtrodden masses.

 

And yes, I feel that as all other big supermarkets in the UK also sell off their land assets and lease them back, the new dark overlords can start ratcheting up future rents by a few more billions and all us poor saps will get hammered at the checkout to pay this stealth tax to the 1% elite.

 

And then yeah, with the recent purchase of Asda most UK food retail is now firmly in the control of those who want to shift their BillyG FrankenFood lab grown sewage to us plebs.

[Grumpy Owl]

On 7/3/2021 at 11:42 AM, Pawson13 said:

I see Morrisons have agree a £ 6.3 billion offer from a consortium of businesses, one of the main investors being Softbank.

 

I was told last week by someone that there is a risk that they will asset strip Morrisons, releasing value of their land, properties and other investments getting back their initial investment money. Then reducing the quality of the produce by selling a load of modified food to make it a, pile it high, sell it cheap business.

 

If it fails, it fails, but they would have done nicely from it by then.

 

Could this be a connection to the planned food shortages?

 

That's basically how these big 'investment funds' work.

 

To them, the selling of groceries is just a nice 'sideline'.

 

Here's a story you might find interesting from my part of Birmingham. A few years ago now, Sainsburys had a big store in Acocks Green, which one day they suddenly announced they would be closing. Not long after this announcement, Morrisons announced they would take over the premises and open a brand new supermarket.

 

It then emerged that the reason Sainsburys were closing that store, was because the building and land was actually owned by Morrisons, and merely leased to Sainsburys, and Morrisons had decided to not renew their lease, choosing instead to operate the site as one of their own stores. This was of course after they had recently acquired a large plot of cleared land around Spring Road rail station, which had been earmarked as a development consisting of a brand new supermarket alongside a number of 'retirement apartments'.

 

Morrisons then caused a 'stink' in nearby Shirley (Solihull) a couple of years ago, by closing their store there, with the loss of a number of jobs, citing 'feasibility' and cost-cutting, with scant disregard for the complaints of the locals who frequently shopped there. The site in Shirley was then sold off to developers, and is ear-marked for yet more retirement apartments, which Shirley is perhaps now best known for.

 

Despite these 'cost-cutting' measures, and an unwillingness to expand and open new stores, following the closure of the store in Shirley, Morrisons acquired the former Co-Op site in 'up-and-coming' Stirchley area of Birmingham, and promptly opened a new store there.

 

These are just examples of what I know from my part of south Birmingham. Groceries are just the sideline, the big draw for these investors is the 'real estate' owned by these companies. Who knows what other properties or land Morrisons own, but if they can, it will be sold off to developers.

[Lucy_Fyre]

Here's how to grow food: get a pot, fill it with dirt (or use dirt in ground) plant seeds from co-op, Tesco, Lidl, online, read back of packet, grow, eat. Easy peasy lemon flip lord. :)

[Simple Actions]

4 hours ago, Lucy_Fyre said:

Here's how to grow food: get a pot, fill it with dirt (or use dirt in ground) plant seeds from co-op, Tesco, Lidl, online, read back of packet, grow, eat. Easy peasy lemon flip lord. :)

 

.....and make sure to save as many variety of seeds as possible too.

Look at those happy cats!! Nice.

[Nobby Noboddy]

1 hour ago, Simple Actions said:

 

.....and make sure to save as many variety of seeds as possible too.

Look at those happy cats!! Nice.

you'd be surprised what you can grow from your shopping.

 

Buy 1 organic squash. Eat the juicy bits, save and dry the seeds.

Next year if you grew them all well you would have hundreds of squashes!

 

Tomatoes, Peppers and chillies - all grown after some meal or another.

 

I make and recycle compost and I don't usually have to buy tomato or chillie seeds as they pop up everywhere!

[Simple Actions]

19 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

you'd be surprised what you can grow from your shopping.

 

Buy 1 organic squash. Eat the juicy bits, save and dry the seeds.

Next year if you grew them all well you would have hundreds of squashes!

 

Tomatoes, Peppers and chillies - all grown after some meal or another.

 

I make and recycle compost and I don't usually have to buy tomato or chillie seeds as they pop up everywhere!

 

There's nothing better than home grown!

The flavour....

[Lucy_Fyre]

I know a lot of people aren't ready to hear it, but this isn't stopping until most of us are dead. That's what the corporate overlords are doing, reducing the population and creating a dependent, compliant few sheepies.

 

Somehow getting over the hope this is going to end in all the shops opening up and everyone returning to pre covid life ain't happening. It's going to get a lot worse than this.

 

I'm saying this not to upset, but to tell people like me who are just realising now, "Okay, the preppers were right, how do I prepare?" This is my second year as a grower and I can see why the "They" don't want people doing it, keep them in fear of sprouting a seed, keep them addicted to plastic wrapped, bland tasting soma.

 

I know others won't grow, that's cool, I have broccoli to trade for some of your whatever, freemarket trade, baby!

 

I can see some good coming from this apocalypse!

[Simple Actions]

49 minutes ago, Lucy_Fyre said:

I know a lot of people aren't ready to hear it, but this isn't stopping until most of us are dead. That's what the corporate overlords are doing, reducing the population and creating a dependent, compliant few sheepies.

 

Somehow getting over the hope this is going to end in all the shops opening up and everyone returning to pre covid life ain't happening. It's going to get a lot worse than this.

 

I'm saying this not to upset, but to tell people like me who are just realising now, "Okay, the preppers were right, how do I prepare?" This is my second year as a grower and I can see why the "They" don't want people doing it, keep them in fear of sprouting a seed, keep them addicted to plastic wrapped, bland tasting soma.

 

I know others won't grow, that's cool, I have broccoli to trade for some of your whatever, freemarket trade, baby!

 

I can see some good coming from this apocalypse!

 

Trading 5 potatoes for 8 tomatoes or by Kgs...lol

Its a possible reality.

I still remember when i was around 5 or 6 years old (early 1980s) watching the elderly in some areas doing that just because they did not want to go via the ''system''........and they were absolutely right. 

[shadowmoon]

On 7/15/2021 at 10:42 AM, Lucy_Fyre said:

I know a lot of people aren't ready to hear it, but this isn't stopping until most of us are dead. That's what the corporate overlords are doing, reducing the population and creating a dependent, compliant few sheepies.

 

Somehow getting over the hope this is going to end in all the shops opening up and everyone returning to pre covid life ain't happening. It's going to get a lot worse than this.

 

I'm saying this not to upset, but to tell people like me who are just realising now, "Okay, the preppers were right, how do I prepare?" This is my second year as a grower and I can see why the "They" don't want people doing it, keep them in fear of sprouting a seed, keep them addicted to plastic wrapped, bland tasting soma.

 

I know others won't grow, that's cool, I have broccoli to trade for some of your whatever, freemarket trade, baby!

 

I can see some good coming from this apocalypse!

Was speaking to a lady I know the other day she wants to learn to grow food and she hasn't a clue where to start.

I have promised to help her next spring.

 

All the time spent at school learning useless information about long dead kings, we are losing the skills we need to be independent to even a small degree.

[Firebird]

On 5/25/2021 at 8:28 AM, Itsa said:

The fact B12 is essential to human brain function and nervous system and doesn't exist in plants doesn't seem to bother these clowns.

Vitamin D3 is an animal hormone.

Heme Iron doesn't exist in plants

Many amino acids don't exist in plants

 

This imo is one of the biggest conspiracies that is flying under everyones radar.

 

I agree!

Interesting side note: Younger women going vegan for years may lose their period. Not uncommon. Check exvegans on reddit for example. Many testimonials there.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Firebird

[BeeThrive]

Better to buy ‘Heritage & Heirloom’ veg seeds, then you can allow the plant to grow on and go to seed, save the seeds to plant next season.

 

You cant do that with hybridized F1 seed varities that youll find in lidl, most commercial seed shops sell hybrid F1 varieties….seed makers fothergills etc are most F1 strains.
 

The seeds from hybrid F1 strains wont produce the same harvest/plant strength vigour the next year. Theyre known as ‘terminator’ seeds. Youll get all male flowers on squash plants, no females= no fruiting!

 

Saving seed from supermarket veg is no good for the same reason - theyre all F1 hybrid varieties and GM….doesnt matter if its organic or non-organic veg - many grow F1 hybrid varieties organically.  
 

Search engine “heirloom seeds’ - theres loads more suppliers now than ever! The seeds you save from heirloom species are VIABLE seeds, TRUE seeds that will be good for planting and giving food.

 

 

Another tip - you may have heard rotten horse manure is great to feed your soil - it is, if its strictly organic. Im in the equestrian and horitculture world and there’s verrrrrry few organic hay producers in the UK. Ive been looking for years.

 

So this means the herbicides used on hay that horses eat, end up being peed and pooped out of the horse, and remain ‘active’ in the manure. So effectively all horse manure produced today is strongly tainted with ‘persistent’ herbicides. This manure will kill your plants. Theyre chemicals like aminopyralid and clopyralid that kill all plants except simple grasses.

Search engine these chemicals - its causing havoc worldwide due to tainted animal poop fertiliser for crop growers.

 

I have a 7yr old dung pile that was herbicide tainted, i didnt know at the time - and even after 7 years of rotting, the herbicides were still active. I used it on crops and had major crop failure that year. Mutant plants….slow growth…curled leaves….no fruit setting. 
Time/U.V/frost/water/heat - nothing breaks down these herbicides quickly. The only thing that does is some soil bacteria that hasnt been discovered/named…..but it takes 3 years. 
 

Its the worst thing happening in horticulture that barely anyone knows about.

 

These persistent chemicals are produced by the big corporations we all know about and theyve been sued due to it by crop producers- theyre now being shipped worldwide and marketed to india as ‘medicine for your crops’, along with giving them GM seeds. The indian farmers are told more crops more money, so theyre head over heels in love with big-agri-poisons.

 

Dont use any horse or cow manure anymore as this class of herbicides is used very commonly now in commercial forage hay agriculture. 

Use seaweed, you home composting bin of scraps, other organic plant based fertilisers.

 

Search for ‘urine fertiliser’ too. Its the perfect ratio of nitrogen, potassium, calcium and micro minerals for plants - its sterile fresh, ferments when stored. Dilute it. Just dont spray it on your plants. Pour onto soil around the plants. Many youtube videos of urine fertiliser experiences shown….a guy pissing by his courgette plants….hilarious yet FREE, SAFE and grows great crops!

(just dont use your own human shoite….animals dont eat where theyve shat…we shouldnt either!)

 

Happy growing folks….its almost feb and seed sowing time!
 

[Macnamara]

15 minutes ago, BeeThrive said:

Better to buy ‘Heritage & Heirloom’ veg seeds, then you can allow the plant to grow on and go to seed, save the seeds to plant next season.

 

You cant do that with hybridized F1 seed varities that youll find in lidl, most commercial seed shops sell hybrid F1 varieties….seed makers fothergills etc are most F1 strains.
 

The seeds from hybrid F1 strains wont produce the same harvest/plant strength vigour the next year. Theyre known as ‘terminator’ seeds. Youll get all male flowers on squash plants, no females= no fruiting!

 

Saving seed from supermarket veg is no good for the same reason - theyre all F1 hybrid varieties and GM….doesnt matter if its organic or non-organic veg - many grow F1 hybrid varieties organically.  
 

Search engine “heirloom seeds’ - theres loads more suppliers now than ever! The seeds you save from heirloom species are VIABLE seeds, TRUE seeds that will be good for planting and giving food.

 

Great post!

 

In the Uk there is a list of official veg and although you can plant veg not on that list it is illegal to sell the seeds to the public. This means that many old varieties are being lost. However if you join a seed club it is possible to get hold of the seeds because you are a member and not the public

 

Re your points about chemicals: pesticides are preventing dung beetles from reproducing which then affects the breaking down of manure and also leads to a drop in the numbers of: wagtails, oystercatchers, gulls, starlings and curlews so like you say using organic compost is vital!

[BeeThrive]

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Great post!

 

In the Uk there is a list of official veg and although you can plant veg not on that list it is illegal to sell the seeds to the public. This means that many old varieties are being lost. However if you join a seed club it is possible to get hold of the seeds because you are a member and not the public

 

Re your points about chemicals: pesticides are preventing dung beetles from reproducing which then affects the breaking down of manure and also leads to a drop in the numbers of: wagtails, oystercatchers, gulls, starlings and curlews so like you say using organic compost is vital!

Youve reminded me about the ‘seed club’ aspect - id forgotten about that. A couple of online sellers of heirloom seeds say by ordering youll be part of their seed club…i didnt know the specific reasons, but there was mention of new policies etc. 

Policing seed distribution is a crime against all of nature. 
 

The half-life of pesticides is equally as worrying as herbicide contamination. There’s studies on pesticides in the waterways, which include also levels of dog/cat fur flea treatment! Water flows from higher ground to lower ground…..it all ends up in the waterways and flushing across the earth.

 

If only they would dye the pesticides and herbicides with a glow in the dark fluorescence….we’d take a night flight on a plane and see the whole earth and oceans glowing - its that pervasive and problematic. While it remains undetected by sight, not many are aware of the consequential issues of using these classes of chemicals for agriculture. 

There’s no fighting these giants…it takes years of effort and results in them adjusting a policy and the small print on their chemical labels which famers ignore anyway.

Better use of time is spent educating people the power they hold is where they spend their money. We sink big agriculture by supporting the small organic local veg box schemes farms, which are sprouting up everywhere worldwide and in the uk…its brilliant! 
 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

Umm, I've done this for years myself?

 

Morrisons scraps 'use by' date on milk in favour of sniff test

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Supermarket Morrisons is to scrap 'use by' dates on most of its milk in a move it says will stop millions of pints being poured down the sink.

The retailer will instead place 'best before' on 90% of its own-brand milk and encourage customers to use a sniff test to check quality.

Recycling charity Wrap said Morrisons was the first supermarket to make the move, which starts later this month.

Ian Goode, senior milk buyer at Morrisons, said it was a "bold step".

Milk is the third most wasted food and drink product in the UK, after potatoes and bread, with around 490 million pints wasted every year, according to Wrap.

It also estimates 85 million pints of milk waste may be due to customers following 'use by' labels, despite research showing it can be used days after the date.

Morrisons believes the move could save seven million pints of its own-brand milk being poured away each year.

from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59928650

 

 

Admittedly at home I don't use a lot of milk, only for coffee and the occasional scrambled eggs.

 

And generally I only buy cartons of UHT, rather than 'fresh' milk.

 

So when I do find myself buying small bottles of fresh milk, it goes without saying that I have always done the 'sniff test', in order to determine whether that milk has 'gone off'. I certainly don't just pour away milk, just because the 'use by' date has expired.

 

Milk doesn't just suddenly become 'poisonous'. But this is what people have become conditioned to believe. Better to just pour away that half-used 2 litre bottle of milk, and 'just buy another one'. Thats 'consumerism' for you!

 

This is just a start though, and you have to think about how much other fresh produce gets needlessly thrown away just because the 'use by' date has expired.

[bobb]

3 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

a sniff test to check quality

 

Who the fuk are these brainless idiots.

 

4 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Milk doesn't just suddenly become 'poisonous'. But this is what people have become conditioned to believe.

 

Sadly this is true on both points.

 

5 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

you have to think about how much other fresh produce gets needlessly thrown away just because the 'use by' date has expired

 

Bin diving for the win, I have been doing this a lot lately, not exactly for food though, and if you think back to about the end of 2019 all you heard in the news was how many more people were having to use food banks, sorry no money in the economy to feed you and food banks only lasted for a month I think, and then it was, no if you want food when the food bank stopped then you will have to go down bins, which got me thinking...........

I have no shame!

[Captain Falcon]

8 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Umm, I've done this for years myself?

 

Morrisons scraps 'use by' date on milk in favour of sniff test

from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59928650

 

 

Admittedly at home I don't use a lot of milk, only for coffee and the occasional scrambled eggs.

 

And generally I only buy cartons of UHT, rather than 'fresh' milk.

 

So when I do find myself buying small bottles of fresh milk, it goes without saying that I have always done the 'sniff test', in order to determine whether that milk has 'gone off'. I certainly don't just pour away milk, just because the 'use by' date has expired.

 

Milk doesn't just suddenly become 'poisonous'. But this is what people have become conditioned to believe. Better to just pour away that half-used 2 litre bottle of milk, and 'just buy another one'. Thats 'consumerism' for you!

 

This is just a start though, and you have to think about how much other fresh produce gets needlessly thrown away just because the 'use by' date has expired.

 

I've noticed the quality of milk has dive-bombed since they went from glass pint bottles from the local dairy to "big dairy" in huge plastic containers. The milk often leaves a bitter aftertaste in the mouth and it's thin and sugary, nothing like the pints from the milkman, remember scooping the cream off the top? So God knows how bad that plastic container supermarket milk will taste once it's past the use by date.

 

I don't trust anything the big supermarkets do, it smacks of selling us shite and even lower quality milk. I'm trying to cut down on milk anyway, for the reasons stated above, I don't think it's the healthy superfood it used to be.

[eddy64]

so there's going to be no date on them at all?   will be fun getting the random bottle of milk that been on the shelf for 3 months in your shopping then.    

[Grumpy Owl]

2 minutes ago, eddy64 said:

so there's going to be no date on them at all?   will be fun getting the random bottle of milk that been on the shelf for 3 months in your shopping then.    

 

If you read the link, it states there will still be a 'best before' date.

[eddy64]

still feel that morrisons is doing to much virtue signalling as the quality of their products steadily decreases.