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The virus, the masks, the test kits, the self-isolation, the social distancing, the social shaming, the dissolution of an independent truthful news media - each one of these individually has been used

Just skimming through some of the posts in this topic...   The Way Out Of This Mess   We are not going to get out of this mess if we waste our time and energy arguing and bickering

And luckily for me I don't value your opinion 🙂 You're wasting your energy (and your crayons) on me rideforever so you may as well just toddle along and try to find someone else to dump all your

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Allow me to put this thread back on track 🙂

 

 

I think we squandered our great gifts, indeed. If we are aware of what limits us and what causes the madness, we can use that knowledge to create solutions. To put it in other words, the way out of this mess is as I see it is start backtracking and looking at what time problems started; who were involved, what they are and where they came from and how the came into the positions of influence. Won't take long to see the connections, once you do, you'll see where their agenda ends. 

 

How to stop it? By not complying to anything that supports this agenda and don't allow to be divided. Those who want total control seek to divide people so they are easier to conquer.

 

"It had long since come to my attention that people of accomplishments rarely sat back and let thing happen to them. They went out and happened to things."

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On 6/19/2020 at 10:03 AM, Storm in the garden said:

Christian or Muslim, black or white

 

The OP in my opinion has been heavily influenced by the unnatural ideas of the cabal.

The idea that all religions are the same, all people are the same, all politics is the same, all atoms are the same ... this is an idea that comes from the degenerative forces.

On the ladder from Chaos >>>>>> Order, they wish to pull you down into chaos where everything is just murky muchness.

Much of murky muchness. 

Everything is everything, everyone is everyone, nobody knows shit.

Tracey Emins blood stained bedsheets counts as modern art.

 

Order means order, means consciousness, intelligent fine discirmination.

No Islam is not Christianity.  Each path is a separate river crafted by centuries of devotion.

One mountain, and a second mountain.

 

An eagle is not a peacock.

They are not the same.

Anyone who wants to degenerate these creatures into the same ... is anti life.

And is speaking for the cabal.

For chaos and darkness and ignorance.

 

As the Light penetrates this world what is supposed to happen is the flourishing of new things.

New life, new creatures.

Eagles, whales, bats.

And new disciplines, new creation, new ingeniuty.

New love, new art.

Each require effort to create ... to create out of chaos.

To create order, beautiful order.

 

Those who say everything is the same ... hate.

They hate life.

They hate light.

They want to go back down.

 

The OP wants to know how we can harness the existing spiritual paths?

How?
By practicing, how else?
How do you climb a mountain?
By walking, one step after the other.

 

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7 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

The OP in my opinion has been heavily influenced by the unnatural ideas of the cabal.

 

And luckily for me I don't value your opinion 🙂

You're wasting your energy (and your crayons) on me rideforever so you may as well just toddle along and try to find someone else to dump all your negative energy upon.

Have a nice day 🙂

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On 6/26/2020 at 7:27 AM, Storm in the garden said:

 

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Just re-reading your posts here ... what actually do you want?

You begin by talking about harnessing Christianity and Islam and other traditions, but as your posts continue you actually seem to have quite a low opinion of those religions.

So, do you just want to use them for your purposes ?

Don't think that has much integrity.

 

There was another post about that I read today about the Proms and the removal of traditional songs.

He didn't like it, and hopes to appeal to some tradition ... but can't really say why.

Although tradition seems a bit daft he still wants to sort of keep those songs.

 

Well, that kind of wishy washy isn't going to work anymore.

Everything is going to be removed from the culture apart from things people defend actively.

It seems that few can remember why, or have more than a fleeting convenient association with these things.

Life has been lived superficially for a long time.

 

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I came with an idea from another thread discussing https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/letusspeak-gag-laws-in-victoria-prevent-sexual-assault-survivors-from-telling-their-stories/.

While Tasmania and the NT have repealed sexual assault victim gag laws, Victoria has gone backwards.

 

For those that want to make a difference for the better make a topic/thread/medium in social media, maybe this will inspire people to non comply without violent means. I'm not very familiar with social media, if you can believe that. But at least it gets some results and a strong message out there. 

 

People speaking out and uniting are the first steps out of this mess. 

 

"Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens." - Carl Jung -

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4 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

you can't use non comply and non violence in the same sentence.

I just did, so obviously I can. That you don't get that is too bad but don't reflect that on me. 

 

"Violent means gives violent freedom." - Ghandi -

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So many shit talkers and people in other  people's business here show their lack of empathy or understanding of another being

 

 

 

Keep it out(other peoples ways)  be respectful ..if u dont like or are threatened by someone the. That's your own fukkin problem. It is an issue within YOU .....and learn to not personalize everything. Sick of all the dissonance on here

I thought we were all supposed to be well read and at least a little better then some b.s lime reddit! Come on!

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I don't see the way out, but I believe there will be a way out for us all eventually.

 

Trust and love. 

As cliche as that may sound to some, it really is the fundamental of our existence. 

Fear only gives us back the battle we cry against.

Wise words from a mushroom journey. 

It made me laugh a lot as I realised that life really is just a ride. Thanks Bill Hicks. Nailed it!

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Just skimming through some of the posts in this topic...

 

The Way Out Of This Mess

 

We are not going to get out of this mess if we waste our time and energy arguing and bickering amongst ourselves because of our differences.

 

We need to be putting our differences aside, and start focusing on all the good things that we have in common with each other.

 

Less hate.

 

More love.

 

THAT's the way out of this mess.

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Some Options

I have thought of some useful things to do.

 

1. Some nations in the 2nd world are having a bit of an anti-Western moment right now, questioning the past of the US and UK etc... anti-colonialism.  So this could be induced so that 2nd world politicians become suspicious of the West's Coronavirus hoax so that they go their own way and hopefully do a Sweden.

 

2. The RT-PCR test can be directly questioned particularly if you mention that it creates random errors during the performance of the test and that these random genetic sequences could be testing positive for CV19 when the patient is actually got nothing.  And such things.

Then the rhetoric could be ... "it's a new high tech test that we didn't know much about before" ... and so this gives the Government the opportunity to blame somebody else and step back from the precipice.

The newspapers have got as far as "the test is very sensitive".

 

3. 140,000 people died in 1950 winter.  (that's adjusted for the current UK population which 1/3 higher than back then).

So if 50,000 people die of a severe flu, or 150,000 people die of a severe flue, or even 300,000 ... then it's not really different to anything that happened in the past.  Bad flus do sweep through the UK for various reasons, especially weather and it's not unusual and no reason to destroy the country.

 

 

 

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The way out...
Don't wear a mask.
Don't follow ridiculous social distancing rules.
Don't take the vaccine.
Consequences be damned.
Thank you Mr. David Icke.

I wanted to go off grid years ago, I saw the impending collapse coming.
Unless you already live off grid, you are not prepared for it.
It takes learning how to build your own shelter, and practice doing it.
It takes an understanding of nature and knowing what you can grow and forage.
It takes skills to hunt and make your own tools.

What you need to do is talk to anyone who will listen.
Talk to your friends, family members and anyone in your community (not online, you can try, but that is most likely a waste of time).
Talk to your real local community.
Take a stand for what you know to be right.
Talking to people in churches is just one way, and it's a good start...anyone who will listen.
If they won't listen, do not waste your time, attention and energy.
That is the only thing of value anymore, spend it wisely.
If you are reading this,
You are the Resistance.
~John Connor

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On 8/27/2020 at 4:22 AM, AXPCalledJeff said:

To put it in other words, the way out of this mess is as I see it is start backtracking and looking at what time problems started; who were involved, what they are and where they came from and how the came into the positions of influence. Won't take long to see the connections, once you do, you'll see where their agenda ends. 

 

Sharia in Arabic means “the way” (Islam).

Halakhah also means  "the way" (Judaism).

The early Messianics were called the people of the way.

 

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