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2 hours ago, Gee said:

Here is a controversial thought... the only way humaninty will ever get to freedom, is if a dictator leads them to it. Sad but I think is true, as most of humanity doesn't want thier freedom and would have to be forced to be free. So it may be time to find a trustworthy dictator!

 

Spirutual healers deserve following and dictators do not fall into that bracket.

Anyone throughout history leading humanity in a spirtual direction has ended up dead.

That tells you everything you need to know really.

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Just skimming through some of the posts in this topic...   The Way Out Of This Mess   We are not going to get out of this mess if we waste our time and energy arguing and bickering

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On 6/19/2020 at 11:21 AM, oz93666 said:

The controllers are way ahead of you ...ALL the main religions are expecting the arrival of the Mahdi / returning Christ etc  so they hope to get all religions united in support of this fake  messianic figure soon to arrive ... That's plan 'A' anyway ... nothing is certain ... but the vatican has been making preparations for this...

 

Important to understand a coalition of malevolent ET's is at the root of it all controlling the cabal , Vatican  and humans by mind influencing tech .... 

 

The only way to defeat them is pray for Divine Intervention  

 

oz ,, I gave it a go ,, I prayed and prayed ,, :classic_ninja:

 

I prayed for divine intervention ,, I prayed to win the Lotto so I could escape to freedom ,, and I prayed for loads of other stuff ,,

 

But,, I woke up the next day ,, and nothing new ,, different day same old crap ,,

 

Maybe praying works for you oz! ?

 

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22 hours ago, YHWHisgracious said:

 

To a degree many already have....david icke.

Id happily down tools in my non reality life and follow his lead. The truth is for me i am fairly trapped. I have awoken my wife but am not much of a silky talker to bring about change in the sheep. However everybody who knows me knows i am extreemly determined, hardened and one of lifes battlers. I would follow in the sense of being part of a collective for the greater good of humanity. I would be a disciple. 

 

I have hoped that somebody would start the counter movement because as it stands we have a rather small percentage of people that are awake and can see whats coming yet singularly we are fairly powerless to overturn them in such a short space of time. But together as groups (one per country) we can make a difference. There are LOADS of people that are in the group of not awoken but can see/sense somthing isnt right and they would be on board fairly quickly imo.

Mate, there is a bunch of counter movements going on.

https://rebelwarriorleader.com/

https://theconsciousresistance.com/

 

I'm involved in bringing down this cabal, even if it takes me three lifetimes! It's happening, at an exponential rate.

 

Anyone who is serious about bringing down the control system, or at least escaping it, message me.

 

Any yes, OP, your strategy involving the religious figures is worth a try.

 

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How does one (or more) defeat the global zionist satanic brigade when they have everyone trapped in an illusory dreamword? ,,

 

and control all the planets money ,,? And have everyone trapped in the illusion that money = power and control ,,

 

Praying doesn't work ,, in my experience ,, and fighting doesn't work either ,, unless you wanna go to jail for protesting ,,

 

You don't 'fight' for freedom ,, as David says ,, 

 

The only thing that will free humanity is a global awakening to the fact that the monetary banking system has been engineered to control the masses and turn them into slaves for the super rich ,, (batteries) ,,

 

But ,, sheeple love being the sheeple they have been trained to be ,, ! And slaving for the rich.

 

Now that technology and AI are increasingly controlling the masses ,, the hope of a true awakening seems distant  and futile ,,

 

This is just my opinion based on observation ,, 

 

I could be wrong ,, and I do know Infinite Love is the Only Truth ,,

 

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I watched the movie The Shining again earlier ,, and there was a bit when the kid is trapped in a maze and somehow finds his way out ,, 

 

It's like the whole movie is a bad dream ,, but he knew how to get out of the maze ,, Like getting himself out of the nightmare mess ,,

 

It's like a chunk of synchronicity ,, where Stanley  is offering alternative truths. ,, 

 

The Way Out of This Mess is probably a relative question ,, eg ,, if you were the son or daughter of a billionaire satanic zionist mason ,, and absolutely loaded ,, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ,, you would say ,, ''What mess'' ?

 

But if you were an awakened person ,, you would see the situation as it is.

 

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9 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

Islam? For Fucks sake, you’re all so far behind the curve. Wake up and smell the coffee. Listen to what he says in this video. Never forget it!!

 

Yep, divide and conquer.

It's worked out pretty well for the last few millennia for mankind, so let's keep it going, right?

So, while we're on the cusp of entering into an era of the total control and subjugation of the entire world  by a small group of technocratic psychopaths, your concern is focused on some guy in Turkey. That makes soooo much sense...

 

He refers to the Muslims of Syria and Iraq. Are they the same ones who have had the shit bombed out of them by the most powerful technocratic army in the world?

And what about the Palestinians? They're predominantely Muslim, so should we hate and fear them too? Maybe we should eradicate them while we can, right?

 

9 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

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Let me ask you a question...

If you hated someone who died twenty years ago, would you still think about them today? 

If someone you hated moved to the other side of the world, would you still hate them daily?

 

If someone you loved died twenty years ago, would you still think about them?

If someone you loved moved to the other side of the world, would you still love them?

 

So I think it's fairly obvious that love is stronger than hate.

There are good Muslims and bad Muslims, just the same as there are good Christians and bad Christians, and the same applies to Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists,  Americans, Norwegians, British, Russians.....choose whichever demographic you like.

I don't know where you were born and raised, but get this...

If you were born in Palestine you would most likely be a Muslim now, and by your criteria I should hate you?

I don't even know you, so should I hate you simply because somebody else tells me I should?

Don't be manipulated into hate, it's a negative energy which is damaging to humanity.

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37 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

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2002 hmmm, quote seems sketchy as hell.

 

Reminds me of this quote that often gets shared which says: "I am fighting for the work of Allah".

 

https://windsorcoactforamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/hitler-a-muslim.jpg

 

The original says: "I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

 

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-hence-today-i-believe-that-i-am-acting-in-accordance-with-the-will-of-the-almighty-creator-adolf-hitler-53-60-08.jpg

 

 

I think he did think Christianity was weak compared to Islam, but If there is one religion he did respect then surely it was Hinduism.

 

 

 

 

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This is a discussion forum set up by David Icke on his site.

I'm sure the man must be tearing his hair out sometimes if he reads some of the content.

How many times has he talked about the  "divide and conquer" method used by the elite to control the people?

How many times has he talked about the silliness of using "labels" to identify people?

 

The vast, vast majority of people in this world don't want to fight anyone. They don't want aggression. They don't want to "spill blood".

They just want to live their life in peace. They want to put food on the table. They want to look after their families. They want to survive.

 

To be honest I don't care a flying fuck what Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, or Adolf Hitler, or George Bush, or Donald Trump...because these people are not the ordinary people of this world. These people are in these positions so that they can forward the agendas of the ruling class. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

This is a discussion forum set up by David Icke on his site.

I'm sure the man must be tearing his hair out sometimes if he reads some of the content.

How many times has he talked about the  "divide and conquer" method used by the elite to control the people?

How many times has he talked about the silliness of using "labels" to identify people?

 

The vast, vast majority of people in this world don't want to fight anyone. They don't want aggression. They don't want to "spill blood".

They just want to live their life in peace. They want to put food on the table. They want to look after their families. They want to survive.

 

To be honest I don't care a flying fuck what Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, or Adolf Hitler, or George Bush, or Donald Trump...because these people are not the ordinary people of this world. These people are in these positions so that they can forward the agendas of the ruling class. 

 

 

 

Sadly a lot of those people you mention are not awake to reality.

tell them to march off to war & they go and march, tell them to put on a mask and they dutifully put on a mask, and etc..

because they are so easily controlled they are kind of like an enemy  (for want of a better term.) to any who don't want to be like them.

 

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25 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

 

Sadly a lot of those people you mention are not awake to reality.

tell them to march off to war & they go and march, tell them to put on a mask and they dutifully put on a mask, and etc..

because they are so easily controlled they are kind of like an enemy  (for want of a better term.) to any who don't want to be like them.

 

 

"We must oppose this evil tyranny  which threatens our Christian values and way of life"

 

Translation: "We want you to to kill these people you don't know so we can take their shit"

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3 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

"We must oppose this evil tyranny  which threatens our Christian values and way of life"

 

Translation: "We want you to to kill these people you don't know so we can take their shit"

 

Absolutely..

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2 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

This is a discussion forum set up by David Icke on his site.

I'm sure the man must be tearing his hair out sometimes if he reads some of the content.

How many times has he talked about the  "divide and conquer" method used by the elite to control the people?

How many times has he talked about the silliness of using "labels" to identify people?

 

The vast, vast majority of people in this world don't want to fight anyone. They don't want aggression. They don't want to "spill blood".

They just want to live their life in peace. They want to put food on the table. They want to look after their families. They want to survive.

 

To be honest I don't care a flying fuck what Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, or Adolf Hitler, or George Bush, or Donald Trump...because these people are not the ordinary people of this world. These people are in these positions so that they can forward the agendas of the ruling class. 

 

 

Divide and rule, engineer the conflicts, sit back and watch - as we can see happening, don't fall fall into the divisive trap, people are people, individuals as I am sure there are here on this very forum with the same thinking and awake.

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4 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

This is a discussion forum set up by David Icke on his site.

I'm sure the man must be tearing his hair out sometimes if he reads some of the content.

How many times has he talked about the  "divide and conquer" method used by the elite to control the people?

How many times has he talked about the silliness of using "labels" to identify people?

 

The vast, vast majority of people in this world don't want to fight anyone. They don't want aggression. They don't want to "spill blood".

They just want to live their life in peace. They want to put food on the table. They want to look after their families. They want to survive.

 

To be honest I don't care a flying fuck what Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, or Adolf Hitler, or George Bush, or Donald Trump...because these people are not the ordinary people of this world. These people are in these positions so that they can forward the agendas of the ruling class. 

 

 

 

The only people that seem to hate each other and want to kill each other are those at the top of the pyramid.  It's like Game of Thrones with these people, and the 7 billion other people are just cannon fodder for their economic and political games as they try to one-up each other.  These people are not like the rest of us.  They have all the money, the power, the privilege anyone could want, and yet no matter how much they have it will never be enough.  All they think about 24 hrs/day is how to get more, and how to get more than their rivals.  A guy like Bill Gates is so rich he could relax and vacation anywhere he wanted for the rest of his life.  Instead, he's obsessed with being known as the "richest man in the world".  They all want to be "that guy", the man at the very top, and they want the entire world to know it.

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I can see why the movie 'Prometheus' was the next logical step to be made in the Alien franchise ,, because it alleges the original engineers/creators ,, hated what they genetically engineered on Earth ,, 

 

Maybe there is some truth in this ,, the ancient alien/reptilians have all but hidden themselves ,, but ancient history shows the truth ,, these genetic engineers have been on Earth a long time ,, Now they want planetary de-population and control,,

 

They know humans are very easy to control and manipulate and turn into energy slaves ,, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ,,

 

Money = Slavery = Energy ,,

 

There is strength in numbers ,, but the numbers have been distracted by tv ,, movies ,, drugs ,, work ,, debt ,, poverty ,, social control & compliance ,, viruses ,, ie genetically engineered viruses ,, technology (spyware etc,,,,,,) ,, and totally controlled by money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ,,

 

I'd love to hear about a way out of the control system where the few control the many! How can the many resist the few ,, ?

 

(Apart from saying prayers to a silent God) ,,

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