Ignorance IS bliss.

[HistoryIsComplex]

Give the sleepy ones a copy of the "Book of Revelations". Tell them to read it. Tell them "You are sleeping through the Apocalypse, buddy!"

[jonesthepost]

5 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

    
 ...  EDIT:    Or does naivety either lead to one of two things:
to  'knowing'  or failing that does it lead to Idiocy?  Depending on how capable the soul is of searching for what is right?
So:
Naivety--- knowing
or
Naivety ------- Idiocy



 

 

Blowed if I know soatb; I think there are many shades in between.

 

Sure, if you’re naive you can learn stuff, but it’s what you do with that knowledge that counts of course.

 

I think many many people have a clue about what’s going on - about heaps of stuff - but  many of them don’t care, they’re complacent or apathetic and as long as they’re ok right now, that’s all that matters, supposedly the future will take care of itself; or it’s too overwhelming, they don’t know how to handle it; or else they may see what is really happening and be excellent people like us hehe   We all react to knowledge differently.

 

So I guess you can call anything idiocy or naivety; ‘they’ think we’re the idiots lol.

 

Imo everything is subjective; I don’t know what the ‘truth’ is, how can anybody know?

I just take on board what ‘feels right’ to me - and when I get pissed off, I call people idiots - or worse

 

Rambe over.

[Lizard Spirit]

I try to be a lone wolf seeker of knowledge that is also a watcher for anyone who wants to know the way.  

 

Having said that, if I have one pet peeve in leaving the sheep in their blissful ignorance is that we are all going to suffer for their compliance and in many times willful ignorance and choosing to take the blue pill.  

[Lizard Spirit]

1 hour ago, HistoryIsComplex said:

Give the sleepy ones a copy of the "Book of Revelations". Tell them to read it. Tell them "You are sleeping through the Apocalypse, buddy!"

^This wins the internet today!  

 

I tried that though, and was just told I was being paranoid, and one of the characters saying that was a Christian Preacher!   Not one friend of mine who claims to be some kind of Christian or biblical can see it.  And on another side note, the Catholic people do not seem to be aware that The Pope is not longer calling himself Vicar of Christ. 

 

[rooey]

4 hours ago, jupiter12 said:

In my opinion ,, there are new energies around now ,, I don't think it's the 5G stuff ,, it feels different ,,

 

Maybe more sheepies will wake and question reality when they experience it/them ,, (The Truth Vibrations ,, Davids 1st book) ,,, 

 

The control freaks do seem to be attempting to ramp up the control/surveillance grid using technology ,,

 

Schools just teach sheepies how the be compliant educated slaves ,, but not 'happy' compliant slaves,,

 

No wonder the use of anti psychotics and anti deps' have gone up ,, maybe the masses are being sedated as more awaken and question things ,, maybe fluoride and aspartame are no longer as effective ,,

 

most definitely. coming from up high... constantly... totally accessible all the time 

[shadowmoon]

4 hours ago, Lizard Spirit said:

^This wins the internet today!  

 

I tried that though, and was just told I was being paranoid, and one of the characters saying that was a Christian Preacher!   Not one friend of mine who claims to be some kind of Christian or biblical can see it.  And on another side note, the Catholic people do not seem to be aware that The Pope is not longer calling himself Vicar of Christ. 

 

 “I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth” (Rev. 3:15–16). 

 

This reflects the current church imho. No ice no fire..just lukewarm.

[shadowmoon]

This thread  makes me  remember  being a kid and feeling so down.

There was no David Icke then, if there was any alternative media out there it wasn't  happening anywhere that my 14 year old  self would ever hear of it.

 

I felt surrounded by NPC people from my first days at school yet there was no term then to describe them.. sometimes I  am surprised to have made it this far relatively  intact.

 

Sorry, that's all  a  bit depressing really.

[Sentient Being]

13 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Ignorance is bliss........what a true saying.

 

 

Sorry to cut your comment down to one sentence... but you f...ing nailed it.

[Messenger]

13 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

I have come to the conclusion that the more ignorant and asleep you are the happier you are.

I live in an over 55s block of flats.....52 flats to be exact.

I am the ONLY person here awake to the diabolical bastards that run the world and the evil manipulative things they are up to

right now.

The braindead sheep I live amongst are so  moronic it hurts. You try to show them the other side of the 

coin and tell them to research  things but just get the fluoride stare back or they laugh at the truths you tell them.

I assume they all sit in front of their tv screens day after day being brainwashed, it's the only way they could be so ignorant.

But here's the rub.....unlike me these fuckers are HAPPY......they smile, laugh and appear to have a calm disposition about them whereas 

I have elevated blood pressure, am on the verge of a nervous breakdown and spend all my time fretting over what's happening to the world and the horrific future ahead of

my family and me.

I wish I were an ignorant sheep to be honest.

Ignorance is bliss........what a true saying.

 

No way Ziggy, I have to disagree. Ignorance is weakness. It may look like the sheople are happy but just wait until "phase 2" of this corona bullshit, they are not going to be very happy in November when it's freezing out and they are being mentally assaulted by their Tel-a-Vision with fear porn about some boogeyman virus that is supposedly going to get them.

 

Have faith, the more psyops that the NWO turds carry out the more people wake up. I've seen it, so many people who were asleep before this corona crap are now starting to question and rebel against lockdown orders. Give it time. Unfortunately sometimes things need to get worse before they get better, but I do believe they will get better.

[HistoryIsComplex]

9 hours ago, Lizard Spirit said:

Not one friend of mine who claims to be some kind of Christian or biblical can see it..

 

They carefully shaved people's Faith in God away for about 2 Centuries and steered them towards "Science" instead.

 

Most people do not understand that "Science" DOES LIE A LOT. That it is a DOCTRINAL FRAMEWORK that is DESIGNED TO RUBBISH FAITH IN THE LORD.

 

They have been indoctrinated into WORSHIPPING Newton, Einstein, Bohr, Tech Company CEOs and others over God.

 

But it will be GOD who SAVES them in the end.

 

 

[Greenhulk50]

Yes waking up can be very depressing at times , imagine if you had a nice house in the countryside away from everyone , lots of fresh air , no traffic , watching the stars in the sky at night,  watching wildlife , no social media , no iPhone , Samsung galaxy etc , no longer watching the MSM news , no covid , no brexit , no more getting angry , yes ignorance is bliss , we cant all have a nice house in the country but we can switch off our television,  our laptops , mobile phones , I definitely think being angry and worried about what's happening with all the worlds problems destroys your health and mental health, in 2002 I met a guy who woke me up to everything that is happening in the world and to be honest I wish he hadn't,  before that I would say I was more content and happier,  now I have become paranoid and no longer trust anyone,  yes ignorance is bliss .

[HistoryIsComplex]

2 hours ago, Greenhulk50 said:

Yes waking up can be very depressing at times , imagine if you had a nice house in the countryside away from everyone , lots of fresh air , no traffic , watching the stars in the sky at night,  watching wildlife , no social media , no iPhone , Samsung galaxy etc , no longer watching the MSM news , no covid , no brexit , no more getting angry , yes ignorance is bliss , we cant all have a nice house in the country but we can switch off our television,  our laptops , mobile phones , I definitely think being angry and worried about what's happening with all the worlds problems destroys your health and mental health, in 2002 I met a guy who woke me up to everything that is happening in the world and to be honest I wish he hadn't,  before that I would say I was more content and happier,  now I have become paranoid and no longer trust anyone,  yes ignorance is bliss .

 

TPTB are doing this on purpose. They know that when the MSM starts acting "against the interests of the public", people will become Anxious.

 

Its a "Fear Game" intended to make people become paralyzed with fear.

[rideforever]

In the underworld only the dead feel at peace.
But they are trapped here, and have soul their souls.

If you are awake then make it count and get out.

If you are getting out then you will not be disturbed.

And eventually you will see that those happy folks are so unhappy it is a mercy they don't feel it.

[TruthSeeker27]

"Ignorance is bliss"... Yes, in many ways this is true... However, I would just like to give my thoughts on the matter.

 

Whilst I completely understand what you mean regarding the pain that being "awake" brings (as I also feel depressed most days, when I can see through so many of the lies, manipulations, etc, when so few others can), I also believe that we're blessed in a strange sort of way.

 

For those of you who may have seen The Matrix (1999 film), you will be already aware of what I'm about to talk about. But whether you've seen it or not doesn't really matter, as I'm sure that most of you will have heard of it either way. Anyway, I'll hurry up and get to my point.

 

In the film...reality itself is a lie. The world around us a dreamworld, a mental projection. In reality, the real world is an apocalyptic nightmare, completely controlled and dominated by AI/machines. Neo (the main protagonist) is awakened to the true nature of the world (this is where the term red pill/blue pill comes from, the red pill being the one that opens your eyes), and it's up to him to save the day, as it were... And yes, while I have seen the film quite a few times, my most recent rewatch really resonated with me...because in a way, I feel like Neo did. Of course, his revelation was even larger, but my own awakening with this pandemic hoax is similar in some ways. The world is a lie in so many ways, and there is pain in knowing that.

 

Now, in the movie, not everyone is as noble and heroic as Neo (he is The One, after all). The character Cypher is referred to as being a villain. And yes, his actions make him villainious, but in many ways I did sympathise with him. Upon awakening, Cypher's existence was horrible. He hated it and wanted it to end. He wanted nothing more than to go back to "sleep" and awaken within The Matrix, within the lie, and with no knowledge of the truth he had learned. He even literally says the words..."ignorance is bliss". He knows that and accepts that within his mind, and will do anything to become ignorant again... Unfortunatley, in a selfish haze, he goes WAY too far. He resorts to the ultimate betrayal, and kills some of his friends in order to free himself from the true nature of the world...

 

While I do sympathise with Cypher (just as I sympathise with all of us on this forum, all of us who are awake to the true nature of the world)...I do still believe that we are blessed, whether we know it or not. You see, the ending of The Matrix defines how I feel about the world. You see, I believe that in one way or another, we are prisoners. If not to the system or the powers that be, then to ourselves. We fear so many things, so many things that actually have no power over us... And in the end, Neo realises that The Matrix no longer has any control over him. He realises that his own mind is so free to such an extent, not only could The Matrix no longer control him, he could control IT. And in a strange sort of way, we have the same chance. In knowing the truth, we can commit to waking others up and making this world a better place. Indeed, that's what Neo says he intends to do at the end of the film. I know that sequels were made, but for me, that should have been the end of it. The ending of that movie is just so perfect, and exemplifies just how powerful an individual can be.

 

Is ignorance bliss? Yes, in many ways this is true... But in the end, I'd choose the red pill every time, for so many different reasons.

Edited June 18, 2020 by TruthSeeker27

[Ziggy Sawdust]

@TruthSeeker27

Excellent post my friend.

[truther79]

Keep your chin up

 

It's very hard on times being awake and not knowing anyone in the real world, or very few...who know what's going on around us.

 

My best friend has been my mate since I was 7. I'm 40 now. He is by far more a academic than me...yet, he falls for so much that is churned out on MSM. He has been fooled by the BLM...hook line sinker.

 

It's hard to see. Especially with your family.

 

Despite all of this, I don't lose hope. For me, I have my faith. That keeps me going. I know no matter how much man plots to kill, destroy and plunder...ultimately...they will fail in the long run.

 

Things will get worse. Much worse. Maybe I won't be here to see it.

 

When everything gets too much I head to the beach to have some calm, quiet and to find peace...even for a brief few moments.

 

Stay positive people. We have each other on here. Take heart that while it's frustrating, at least we don't have to live in fear.

 

Keep smiling

 

Edited June 18, 2020 by truther79
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[Tinfoil Hat]

It's a bit of a catch 22 also. Some people think that we are manifesting the bad times, through focusing on it and the distress lowering our vibrational energy.But yet we think more people should be aware of it, otherwise they are guilty of being the derogatory term 'sheeple'. It's perplexing, isn't it. 

 

But I agree, it was a pleasanter existence in many ways when we thought people in authority were trustworthy and reliable. The world seemed sweeter and less threatening. I want to believe in that innocence and innate goodness again.

 

 

[theo102]

On 6/18/2020 at 7:43 AM, jonesthepost said:

Sometimes I think most humans have been taken over by something particularly evil.

 

It's the nature of the human condition. Its descriptions began with as a security relationship with state (Cicero), and developed into separation from the divine (Christianity) and also a social focus (Marx).

 

[jonesthepost]

6 minutes ago, theo102 said:

 

It's the nature of the human condition. Its descriptions began with as a security relationship with state (Cicero), and developed into separation from the divine (Christianity) and also a social focus (Marx).

 

 

You would think that as we matured we would learn more and not ‘seperate’ from the divine’; I thought that after all, that’s what we are here for; instead it seems, especially these days, we are the opposite.

 

Thats why I believe archons - or the equivalent thereof are having a mighty fine time ‘infecting’ us because there are so many distractions these days.

 

 

[jonesthepost]

14 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

It's a bit of a catch 22 also. Some people think that we are manifesting the bad times, through focusing on it and the distress lowering our vibrational energy.But yet we think more people should be aware of it, otherwise they are guilty of being the derogatory term 'sheeple'. It's perplexing, isn't it. 

 

But I agree, it was a pleasanter existence in many ways when we thought people in authority were trustworthy and reliable. The world seemed sweeter and less threatening. I want to believe in that innocence and innate goodness again.

 

 

 

Amen to that sister!

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

It's a bit of a catch 22 also. Some people think that we are manifesting the bad times, through focusing on it and the distress lowering our vibrational energy.But yet we think more people should be aware of it, otherwise they are guilty of being the derogatory term 'sheeple'. It's perplexing, isn't it. 

 

But I agree, it was a pleasanter existence in many ways when we thought people in authority were trustworthy and reliable. The world seemed sweeter and less threatening. I want to believe in that innocence and innate goodness again.

 

 

 

I agree about it being perplexing.

 

Not sure how I feel about remaining ignorant either. I guess it depends on the individual and how they react to waking up. I have friends and family that often ask me why I spend time looking at all the stuff that is going on in the world, and they say they don't want to know about it because it's all too depressing. I just say that I'm interested in geopolitics, history, anthropology, technology, religion and other topics. If I wasn't interested then I wouldn't bother looking into things.

 

It's similar to gaming. A good game doesn't necessarily have to be fun, it just has to be engaging. A game called 'Papers Please' is a great example. It's a game where you play as an immigration inspector and you have to decide who gets allowed in the fictional nation from the game. A lot of reviews say the game is depressing, but the reviews are still overwhelmingly positive as it's interesting and engaging.

[jonesthepost]

14 hours ago, Sentient Being said:

 

Sorry to cut your comment down to one sentence... but you f...ing nailed it.

 

It may be bliss but it kills your ‘soul’; turns you into an automaton; just look around.

 

It is a battle, and though many times I have wished to be ‘ignorant’ again, now I would not; and to be frank, I’m enjoying the battle.

Theyll not hold me back anymore.

[jupiter12]

20 hours ago, rooey said:

most definitely. coming from up high... constantly... totally accessible all the time 

 

yeh rooey ,, 

 

Even the genius scientists know we humans (and other animal decoders of reality) can only decode a tiny part of the whole frequency spectrum ,,

 

In the past  maybe they decided to delegate everything unexplained as an act of god!

 

And ,,

 

I wanna say to a Muslim ,, what if you were never taught about God at school?  What would happen to you if your parents didn't brainwash you into thinking god allah was real?

 

And ,, I wanna say to a Catholic ,, how would you cope in world where your parents and brainwashers never told you that abortion is illegal ,,?

 

And ,, what if ,, the masses questioned everything ,, except the things they have been trained to argue about and be prejudiced against ,, eg ,, color ,, religion ,, beliefs ,, 

Edited June 18, 2020 by jupiter12

[Messenger]

I'm telling you ladies and lads, start a garden and grow food, it's such a good feeling to work a garden and then go there one day and find little baby zucchinis growing, strawberries, etc and know that you don't have to depend on anyone.

 

When your neighbors and friends see that, you have just planted another seed and helped people wake up.

[Fluke]

Had to remind myself to detach first thing this morning. Mum's and her partner were talking about cancelling holiday because apparently TV man is telling them there's been a spike on covid. I stayed quiet and mum said "I can tell what he is thinking smiling". Partner says "it's definitely real". To my mum's credit she said don't wind him up. I had to walk out. 

 

Don't get drawn in people. Nice people, not particularly aware. It did piss me off for a brief moment. 

 

I have to remind myself to attach and observe.