Dagmar Gross Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 See below an excellent report on the current situation in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Here's an excellent report I found in an FB post by Michael Tellinger on the results of undercover work about the riots in US and how they were planned. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 It just proves that nothing that's happening has anything to do with race. These are delusional right-brained snowflakes that so 100% think with their emotions that they've become delusional. Unfortunately, these people now number in the 1,000's because the Marxist school system has filled these peoples' heads full of disinformation. Then these people go on the echo chambers they hang out in in social media where they only hear the same messages over and over without any competing viewpoints. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 11:13 PM, Dagmar Gross said: Here's an excellent report I found in an FB post by Michael Tellinger on the results of undercover work about the riots in US and how they were planned. Thanks Dagmar for highlighting! It comes across like terrorist cell recruitment! It shows how easily people esp the young and impressionable are manipulated with these agendas - shocking! to the point of stupification. These methods have been well established for centuries. http://ecofascism.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Wow, that is so dangerous and scary that there are lunatics out there trying that hard to implement socialism in the US, and going so far as to brainwash naive kids who have no clue what they are getting involved in. This is the work of the black magicians and the "United" Nations would bet. Notice the black wavy haired lady in red shirt at 8:12 says, we need to get money to our comrades on the ground right now. First, she is under the fiat currency spell of "money". Humanity don't need money to survive, they need food and water. Do you think any of those idiots would organize a team to put together a large garden to grow food so they could be self sustainable? Hell no. Instead, they want to attack the system that feeds them. So when they knock down the companies who provide food to the grocery stores, then how the hell are those idiots supposed to eat and survive?! How many of them have lived in a socialist country before? The people who have and whom have migrated to the USA, many of them will tell you that socialism is terrible, it is poverty, it is standing in line for a used pair of shoes, or a single loaf of bread, literally. This is what people have told myself and people in my family. Second, the word comrades, the etymology, it dates back to the 1500's but in 1880's it was identified with socialism and communism. https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=comrade I'm certainly not against community as long as people are working together to grow food or produce something that humanity need for survival but socialism I am not ok with. I don't need a government telling me what to do. I'm passing that video around. I'm surprised that it hasn't been deleted yet, but it shows you how brazen they are, youtube, to allow it to stay as an in your face this is what we are doing. The corporations need to be held accountable but in a way they are in on making this happen as they embrace the BLM and antifa people. It's all convoluted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Interesting that Momentum is shown to be heavily involved in that video... The same Momentum that is driving policy in the Labour Party in the UK... sabotage and subversion from within... scary stuff for sure. Thanks for highlighting this Dagmar... Edited June 19, 2020 by HAARPING_On spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Messenger said: First, she is under the fiat currency spell of "money". Humanity don't need money to survive, they need food and water. Do you think any of those idiots would organize a team to put together a large garden to grow food so they could be self sustainable? Hell no. Instead, they want to attack the system that feeds them. So when they knock down the companies who provide food to the grocery stores, then how the hell are those idiots supposed to eat and survive?! How many of them have lived in a socialist country before? The people who have and whom have migrated to the USA, many of them will tell you that socialism is terrible, it is poverty, it is standing in line for a used pair of shoes, or a single loaf of bread, literally. This is what people have told myself and people in my family. Second, the word comrades, the etymology, it dates back to the 1500's but in 1880's it was identified with socialism and communism. https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=comrade I'm certainly not against community as long as people are working together to grow food or produce something that humanity need for survival but socialism I am not ok with. I don't need a government telling me what to do. I'm passing that video around. I'm surprised that it hasn't been deleted yet, but it shows you how brazen they are, youtube, to allow it to stay as an in your face this is what we are doing. The corporations need to be held accountable but in a way they are in on making this happen as they embrace the BLM and antifa people. It's all convoluted. It's also ironic that they do not believe in Capitalism per se, and would abolish our access to money, and yet it's capitalism that has given them all the joys in life and opportunities that they have now, and funny how they hate money so much and yet they need more of it to make the world the way they want it. The problem is, they're in the exact age group that is not only very impressionable, but they are also very idealistic because they're at that point in life where their brains are almost fully formed, and all they can see are possibilities in life and a world that's their proverbial oyster. But at the same time, they have not ever had any real responsibilities for anyone or anything, they have never had a real job, they've never even had to be responsible for themselves, because mommy and daddy have given them everything they've ever wanted (except love). They have never even had to be accountable to anyone for anything. They've never been married, never had a child, never had an aging parent to care for. These people, when they read a book, like Mein Kampf, because they have no life experience or any understanding of history, all they see is how everyone will be living in perfect harmony, no crime, no racism, no sexism, no social classes, no rich, no poor, no hunger. If you look back through years of history at these kinds of socialist/Marxist uprisings, it's always the same age group that are used as pawns to push the agenda, because those at the top, behind the scenes pulling the string, they understand exactly what I am saying. These kids do not understand that most people do not want to live in a fully scripted and controlled society, and that in order for these kinds of socialist utopias to succeed, ALL forms of dissent must be forcibly stomped out, which means millions of people will have to be imprisoned or gotten rid of. These misguided kids, and that's what they are, have no understanding of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, motleyhoo said: It's also ironic that they do not believe in Capitalism per se, and would abolish our access to money, and yet it's capitalism that has given them all the joys in life and opportunities that they have now, and funny how they hate money so much and yet they need more of it to make the world the way they want it. The problem is, they're in the exact age group that is not only very impressionable, but they are also very idealistic because they're at that point in life where their brains are almost fully formed, and all they can see are possibilities in life and a world that's their proverbial oyster. But at the same time, they have not ever had any real responsibilities for anyone or anything, they have never had a real job, they've never even had to be responsible for themselves, because mommy and daddy have given them everything they've ever wanted (except love). They have never even had to be accountable to anyone for anything. They've never been married, never had a child, never had an aging parent to care for. These people, when they read a book, like Mein Kampf, because they have no life experience or any understanding of history, all they see is how everyone will be living in perfect harmony, no crime, no racism, no sexism, no social classes, no rich, no poor, no hunger. If you look back through years of history at these kinds of socialist/Marxist uprisings, it's always the same age group that are used as pawns to push the agenda, because those at the top, behind the scenes pulling the string, they understand exactly what I am saying. These kids do not understand that most people do not want to live in a fully scripted and controlled society, and that in order for these kinds of socialist utopias to succeed, ALL forms of dissent must be forcibly stomped out, which means millions of people will have to be imprisoned or gotten rid of. These misguided kids, and that's what they are, have no understanding of this. So true Motley. At the top of this socialist movement though are adults. Some of them have been exposed by Project Veritas YT channel, but who knows how accurate their info is, but they do give an undercover glimpse into some of the meetings. These people need to study sociology and the Tavistock institute, then they might understand how they are being manipulated and socially engineered. I am interested in their family life, like if those people have both parents, a mother and a father, and if they each had a mother and a father, and what each of them did for work and where they went to school. Based on your posts I gather that you are supportive of education but school can be very dangerous in playing the part of brainwashing people. Of course it has it's uses as well but discernment by the student is key and a conscious parent aids in their child's awareness to identify conditioning and propaganda and resist it. I wonder what goes on in the mind of the socialist, what happened to their brain to where they believe that they need a government to give them orders and rule over them. I think it's because they don't understand the basics of survival. Once they are finished studying sociology they should look at the early days of the USA, specifically agriculture and farming, then they might understand how it is that people truly had freedom, because they didn't have a big government dictating their every move. They tended to their crops for survival with the help from family. Amazing that people don't see food as their ultimate life line, and instead are demanding that a government take care of them. At this point it should be clear to everyone with a working brain that the government doesn't care about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyhoo Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Because our school systems, even at the University level have been subverted by Marxists there is an opinion on these forums now that education is bad. I think just the opposite. I have an advanced degree in Engineering, and knowing everything I know now, I would not change that. It's not education that's bad, it's the people infiltrating who are bad, and we need to devise a plan for weeding these infected people out of our education system. Common sense alone is not going to advance society. Humans being what we are, we need scientists, engineers, and there's also a lot of people who have a deep calling within them to be those things. I am one of those people. When I was a kid, I was the one who designed the tree forts and made the pulley systems and dumb-waiters to bring stuff up. I was the one who designed the mini-log cabin, complete with fireplace and chimney, we made out of the huge tree that my parents had cut down because it got a disease. When my mom saw smoke coming out of the chimney, she made us tear it all down...lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/19/2020 at 7:22 PM, Messenger said: So true Motley. At the top of this socialist movement though are adults. Some of them have been exposed by Project Veritas YT channel, but who knows how accurate their info is, but they do give an undercover glimpse into some of the meetings. These people need to study sociology and the Tavistock institute, then they might understand how they are being manipulated and socially engineered. I am interested in their family life, like if those people have both parents, a mother and a father, and if they each had a mother and a father, and what each of them did for work and where they went to school. Based on your posts I gather that you are supportive of education but school can be very dangerous in playing the part of brainwashing people. Of course it has it's uses as well but discernment by the student is key and a conscious parent aids in their child's awareness to identify conditioning and propaganda and resist it. I wonder what goes on in the mind of the socialist, what happened to their brain to where they believe that they need a government to give them orders and rule over them. I think it's because they don't understand the basics of survival. Once they are finished studying sociology they should look at the early days of the USA, specifically agriculture and farming, then they might understand how it is that people truly had freedom, because they didn't have a big government dictating their every move. They tended to their crops for survival with the help from family. Amazing that people don't see food as their ultimate life line, and instead are demanding that a government take care of them. At this point it should be clear to everyone with a working brain that the government doesn't care about them. When I was much younger, I hadn't read Karl Marx's book and still haven't, but I always thought that true communism is a good thing. That is why I always loved the way the North American natives lived, working together on a hunt or collecting seasonal fruits and sharing everything with the whole tribe, the community, so that everybody had what they needed. That has always been my idea of true Communism. Over the years, of course I saw how rapacious far too many people are in the world, always looking at what others have and wanting that too, like a greedy child. So, I developed the desire to live on my own land and try and be as self-sufficient as possible, so that I wouldn't have to work for others and hardly need any money. Ideally, I would obtain money from the sale of literally the fruits of my labour. However, I never found the right partner for that and never earned enough money to buy such a piece of land... Nowadays, I do limit my spending and thanks to Covid-19 am out of my usual, only seasonal work. But, as I have learnt to limit my spending, I can still live through these months with some savings, a little government help for the Self-Employed and a widow's pension I get from Spain, where I was married for many years. The time will most likely come when this won't be enough anymore, but who knows. We are living in such a strange time now, anything can still happen even this year, and I still have the hope that the forces of Good will get us through this safely. It's really a waiting game, isn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/19/2020 at 7:36 PM, motleyhoo said: Because our school systems, even at the University level have been subverted by Marxists there is an opinion on these forums now that education is bad. I think just the opposite. I have an advanced degree in Engineering, and knowing everything I know now, I would not change that. It's not education that's bad, it's the people infiltrating who are bad, and we need to devise a plan for weeding these infected people out of our education system. Common sense alone is not going to advance society. Humans being what we are, we need scientists, engineers, and there's also a lot of people who have a deep calling within them to be those things. I am one of those people. When I was a kid, I was the one who designed the tree forts and made the pulley systems and dumb-waiters to bring stuff up. I was the one who designed the mini-log cabin, complete with fireplace and chimney, we made out of the huge tree that my parents had cut down because it got a disease. When my mom saw smoke coming out of the chimney, she made us tear it all down...lol My education was so very different to how children are educated nowadays! I started life in Hamburg, Germany, and in Germany children don't start school until they are six years old. We started with all the basics of learning to read and write and simple sums mainly. To teach us to read, we read not so well-known fairy-tales round the class with a sentence for each of us or two if they were very short. That was great fun and we all learnt really well! In Germany, I don't know if schools still use them today, but then we had a book called a "Fibel" to teach us to write. It started on the first page with the illustration of a car and the words: "Tut (toot), tut, tut ein Auto." At the same time, we learnt writing the letters of the alphabet one by one in a notebook with three lines like for musical notes. We couldn't fail to all learn reading and writing well in this way! Nowadays, most teenagers can't spell! They go into College, for example, only semi-literate! I have done several College courses in Scotland, where I now live, and was appalled to see the low standard! My family moved to England, where I did all my secondary education in a Grammar School after passing my 13 plus, which doesn't exist anymore. But I am very glad that it did then, because I needed a couple of years to learn English first. In that Grammar School, yes, we learnt history pretty much as dictated to us by the teacher and any questions I sometimes had weren't very welcome... But in general, we learnt to question in the other subjects. Biology was excellent! And I particularly remember our wonderful RK teacher, who taught us to question the miracles in the Bible, when she told us the scientific background to at least some of them. And, this was in the 1970s, we did GCE O/Levels and were told that GCSE's were for Comprehensive school children and of a lower standard. Nowadays, therefore, GCE's have been abolished and the standard has been lowered for all students. I don't think this is right. We are not all the same and children have very different IQ levels. This is probably why all the more intelligent children are bored stiff in school and cause disruptions while waiting for those not so quick off the mark and the ones with learning difficulties to understand everything too. This can't be right and there must be a nasty agenda behind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentient Being Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 He funded the Clintons/Obama/Biden in 2016 and that failed. Now he's doing it again with race wars (Antifa/BLM)... and there will be more (funded) false-flags come November including the October 'surprise'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 @Dagmar Gross I totally agree about the Indian tribes and I have a vast amount of respect for them and their discipline to not take more than they needed and use everything they did take with no waste. I suppose those times and people are a perfect example of communism. I always wondered why communism earned itself such a negative view, so I suppose when I talk trash about socialism I am specifically detesting the big government model who control all commerce and societies products and services. Most certainly the US have become what you describe as the greedy children always looking at what others have, that whole grass is greener on the other side thing. In some cases I believe the grass is greener but most often not. I have never read anything by Karl Marx and don't suppose I need to, nor do I have time since there are so many other books I feel are more important that I need to cram into my brain first. Very commendable and responsible of you to have that mind frame of living on the fruits of your labor, literally, and that tells me that you get it. Don't feel bad about a little government help, they have taken plenty from the people and worked us like slaves in many cases so taking some back IMO is quite alright, no judgement from me. I suppose some of it is a waiting game but at the same time we should not stop preparing and should continue building the future we want, because I think most of us know full well that "they" won't wait, they will continue working towards their goals. I believe that you are the good force, so let's all work together to help each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/19/2020 at 1:36 PM, motleyhoo said: Because our school systems, even at the University level have been subverted by Marxists there is an opinion on these forums now that education is bad. I think just the opposite. I have an advanced degree in Engineering, and knowing everything I know now, I would not change that. It's not education that's bad, it's the people infiltrating who are bad, and we need to devise a plan for weeding these infected people out of our education system. Common sense alone is not going to advance society. Humans being what we are, we need scientists, engineers, and there's also a lot of people who have a deep calling within them to be those things. I am one of those people. When I was a kid, I was the one who designed the tree forts and made the pulley systems and dumb-waiters to bring stuff up. I was the one who designed the mini-log cabin, complete with fireplace and chimney, we made out of the huge tree that my parents had cut down because it got a disease. When my mom saw smoke coming out of the chimney, she made us tear it all down...lol I agree Motley and I would like to clarify that I do not intend to take away your accomplishment, I think we are both aware that there is both good and bad in the US edu system, and yes we need to weed them out. Shit, it would have been nice to be your neighbor when we were kids cause I wanted a tree fort so bad and my parents said no we don't have any suitable trees. lol. We had the too big trees and the too small trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Messenger said: @Dagmar Gross I totally agree about the Indian tribes and I have a vast amount of respect for them and their discipline to not take more than they needed and use everything they did take with no waste. I suppose those times and people are a perfect example of communism. I always wondered why communism earned itself such a negative view, so I suppose when I talk trash about socialism I am specifically detesting the big government model who control all commerce and societies products and services. Most certainly the US have become what you describe as the greedy children always looking at what others have, that whole grass is greener on the other side thing. In some cases I believe the grass is greener but most often not. I have never read anything by Karl Marx and don't suppose I need to, nor do I have time since there are so many other books I feel are more important that I need to cram into my brain first. Very commendable and responsible of you to have that mind frame of living on the fruits of your labor, literally, and that tells me that you get it. Don't feel bad about a little government help, they have taken plenty from the people and worked us like slaves in many cases so taking some back IMO is quite alright, no judgement from me. I suppose some of it is a waiting game but at the same time we should not stop preparing and should continue building the future we want, because I think most of us know full well that "they" won't wait, they will continue working towards their goals. I believe that you are the good force, so let's all work together to help each other. Trying to cut down on posting here, but maybe start here: Source: https://archive.org/details/MarxAndSatan/page/n11/mode/2up TLDR: Marx was a filthy degenerate that wanted to rebel against God. And screw communism and the misery it has brought to the world. Edited June 22, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Never forget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 "If for the sake of communism, it is necessary to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." - Lenin Sounds like BLM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Messenger said: @Dagmar Gross I totally agree about the Indian tribes and I have a vast amount of respect for them and their discipline to not take more than they needed and use everything they did take with no waste. I suppose those times and people are a perfect example of communism. I always wondered why communism earned itself such a negative view, so I suppose when I talk trash about socialism I am specifically detesting the big government model who control all commerce and societies products and services. Most certainly the US have become what you describe as the greedy children always looking at what others have, that whole grass is greener on the other side thing. In some cases I believe the grass is greener but most often not. I have never read anything by Karl Marx and don't suppose I need to, nor do I have time since there are so many other books I feel are more important that I need to cram into my brain first. Very commendable and responsible of you to have that mind frame of living on the fruits of your labor, literally, and that tells me that you get it. Don't feel bad about a little government help, they have taken plenty from the people and worked us like slaves in many cases so taking some back IMO is quite alright, no judgement from me. I suppose some of it is a waiting game but at the same time we should not stop preparing and should continue building the future we want, because I think most of us know full well that "they" won't wait, they will continue working towards their goals. I believe that you are the good force, so let's all work together to help each other. Thank you Messenger. I am glad you agree with me on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 17 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: "If for the sake of communism, it is necessary to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." - Lenin Sounds like BLM. It is Satanic to believe this, but then Lenin was paid by the Satanists to accomplish that misery for so many millions in Russia. And this guy featured here needs his head examining! This kind of attitude does not help Black people at all! Violence due to the law of Cause and Effect only brings more violence in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegel Schmegel Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 As one who would not like to live in an Orwellian police state, it goes without saying that police brutality against anyone is abhorrent and ought to be punished. That said, the riots and the vandalism that has been occurring in parts of the U.S. is itself reprehensible, and plays right into the hands of those who would like very much for a total police surveillance state to exist. A few months ago I finished an excellent book called Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg, and the chapter titled "The 1960s: Fascism Takes to the Streets" may seem somewhat applicable to this discussion. Makes you wonder whether some of this looting and vandalism has been caused by fully conscious impostors as opposed to just unwitting liberal fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:37 PM, motleyhoo said: It just proves that nothing that's happening has anything to do with race. These are delusional right-brained snowflakes that so 100% think with their emotions that they've become delusional. Unfortunately, these people now number in the 1,000's because the Marxist school system has filled these peoples' heads full of disinformation. Then these people go on the echo chambers they hang out in in social media where they only hear the same messages over and over without any competing viewpoints. Yeah what I also find interesting is that these riots are happening in states that have some serious drug abuse; heroin and big pharma pills. Oregon and Washington, Illinois, New York, California. Democrats. I have pondered many times what makes these people so angry at capitalism and all I can come up with is that maybe they are simply not that smart and creative. Creative people usually express themselves by producing an item which they find a way to sell which leads to making money which can sort of be considered as successful. (since everyone defines success differently) But these young kids, do they make anything? Where is their creativity? Why haven't they gone into a trade such as electrician or welder, or wood working, or mechanical engineering, or electrical engineering? or plastic mold injection, that's a big thing now. 3D printers was all the rage a few years ago. The engineering is a bit more advanced than welding or basic metal fabrication but still, banks pretty much give away loans for school. I suppose what we see happening is more proof that liberal arts is not such a lucrative field after all. Unless youre maria abromovich of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 9:36 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: "If for the sake of communism, it is necessary to destroy 9/10ths of the people, we must not hesitate." - Lenin Sounds like BLM. Guy is a nutbag who needs to take a shower and comb his hair. Or maybe he should start a garden and be a productive member of society. I mean, these people must not be playing with a full deck. What do they hope to accomplish IF they happened to eradicate white people and capitalism? Are they going to actually build a small community like in the movie, Mosquito Coast, with Harrison Ford and River Phoenix? Doubtful. I doubt there are any carpenters among them. If there were they sure as shit wouldn't be wasting time rioting since they would have plenty of work at an average of $23/hr. For a master carpenter the sky is the limit, they can build anything and charge almost whatever they want if their product is innovative and creative enough. Same thing with a master metal fabricator who is skilled with a torch and on a press brake and tube bender, etc. Same thing with a CNC machinist, they can machine almost anything and charge a shitload for it, especially in the aerospace industry. Oh you need this tiny piece of 4"x4" aluminum for your saucer craft or your F35 raptor, that's going to cost you $5,000 each and you need ten of them per craft at an order of 25 craft. That kind of shit happens all day every day in the industry me thinks. Or well, it used to not sure about now with the rona "virus". Bottom line, BLM and antifa people need to go to a trade school and then exercise their creative side and I bet they would change their tone real quick one they started making money for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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