rideforever Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) I couldn't find any direct flights from the Fawkland Islands to Tazmania. Are any of the routes on that map up there actually in operation? Is there a direct Tazmania to South America flight that avoids the S.Pole? On this map you can see that from Aus to South Africa or South America the flights do bend down to the Pole but not all the way. On the N.Pole there quite a few high latitude cities in Iceland Canada Norway Russia. In the South there is only Penguin Central and Capt Scott, and they don't move quickly. Edited September 20, 2020 by rideforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 hours ago, rideforever said: Yes it is, and if you follow this kind of logic you will go far. One thing you can be certain of is one day you will be short of breath and bleeding and you will die. Does it makes sense not to try seriously to change this equation, to sit and wait for your end? The reputed orthodox traditions all work, but you have to stop talking and actually go and do them. Each one requires dedicate diligent practice ... have opinions matters little in the end, only real knowledge from the front line counts. If not you live as an animal and die as an animal, and once you are finished nothing remains. There are plenty of serious, intelligent, powerful and brave men and women who have entered the spiritual traditions. But I don't know who is reading this text that I write. If a monkey reads it what can he understand. Nature is vast it does not care if you die, there are so many, only you can care, if you can understand. 7 hours ago, rideforever said: Yes it is, and if you follow this kind of logic you will go far. One thing you can be certain of is one day you will be short of breath and bleeding and you will die. Does it makes sense not to try seriously to change this equation, to sit and wait for your end? The reputed orthodox traditions all work, but you have to stop talking and actually go and do them. Each one requires dedicate diligent practice ... have opinions matters little in the end, only real knowledge from the front line counts. If not you live as an animal and die as an animal, and once you are finished nothing remains. There are plenty of serious, intelligent, powerful and brave men and women who have entered the spiritual traditions. But I don't know who is reading this text that I write. If a monkey reads it what can he understand. Nature is vast it does not care if you die, there are so many, only you can care, if you can understand. To b honest I don't really wanna go that far, ive travelled quite along way already, its over rated. Thats cheery isn't it " one thing I can be certain of is ill be short of breath and bleeding then I will die"! Chez long! Jus go straight in there, not sure if you have a crystal ball or not but I kinda hoped there wouldn't be bleeding( well at least not on the outside) claret everywhere hmm doesn't sound so great and messy too, can't say i fancy the short of breath one either, the cancer that killed my father was such a special type he had to have a mask on right till the end( kinda fucks with big goodbyes doesn't it) and then you die. Why would you want to change this? Its the circle of life. The reputed orthadox traditions of what all work for what??? But only if you practice diligently.. hmm Im of the understanding that my opinion is just that. I can't say ive been to the front line( don't people normally get shot there? No thanks) so I guess my knowledge is at best limited. So then you say if I dont do the above I live and die as an animal hay? What god is it your into again? Do.you think your life is better or worth more than that of an animal? Hmm and as for " once you are finished nothing remains. Well thats not really true is it. "If a monkey reads it What can he understand?" I guess that depends on how good at reading he is. What if I told you that I'm just a bit stupid, would that change your opinion of me ? Or maybe I'm a brain surgeon? "Nature is vast it doesn't care if I die" interesting view point. do you reside just outside of nature? Pretty certain you and I, and all the peops and all the dirty animals, even them reading monkeys are part of nature? So by definition if you think about it . It does care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 MOD NOTE: Please keep this thread 'on-topic' regarding the discussion of the continent of Antarctica, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red pill taken Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said: MOD NOTE: Please keep this thread 'on-topic' regarding the discussion of the continent of Antarctica, thanks. Yeah sorry not really down with the whole forum thing, jus replying to that matey from earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 hours ago, dollazNdiamond said: and an emergency landing in the ocean makes sense? that was an original thought that you were insulting flat earthers about? I gave you the acronym to google it and broaden your knowledge vacuum on this subject. The routes need backup contingency for emergency situations. It is nothing to do with crash landing, it is the ability of the craft to land at an alternative place. https://simpleflying.com/what-are-etops-rules/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: The routes need backup contingency for emergency situations. It is nothing to do with crash landing, it is the ability of the craft to land at an alternative place. Beats me how they can land in a place that doesn't exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, alexa said: Beats me how they can land in a place that doesn't exist Gibberish. Everything appears to "beat" you. You must have some cloud cuckoo concept of the world if you are now denying a whole continent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollazNdiamond Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 no facts just attacks ways to stifle without a rifle as you deny whats in front of your eye antarctica is a wall of ice that holds our ocean water how many posts will it take for someone to show otherwise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy G Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 16 hours ago, rideforever said: I couldn't find any direct flights from the Fawkland Islands to Tazmania. Are any of the routes on that map up there actually in operation? Is there a direct Tazmania to South America flight that avoids the S.Pole? On this map you can see that from Aus to South Africa or South America the flights do bend down to the Pole but not all the way. On the N.Pole there quite a few high latitude cities in Iceland Canada Norway Russia. In the South there is only Penguin Central and Capt Scott, and they don't move quickly. The two flights completely in the Southern hemisphere are interesting. This was another large part of my awakening not only about Antarctica, but about the entire Southern hemisphere. this is from 1901. This is from 1907. The maps are from https://interestingengineering.com/both-the-us-and-russia-are-stalking-the-worlds-undersea-cables What I came to realize was quite obvious and had been hidden in plane sight... literally. When I looked at these same maps from the perspective of being above the North pole and it all makes sense. It is worth reading the article, especially for those fascinated by satellite communications. Today, 99 percent of the data crossing the oceans is carried by undersea cables. As of 2012, data was flowing error-free at 100 Gbps across Atlantic Ocean routes of up to 6,000 km (3,700 mi). That meant that a typical cable was capable of moving tens of terabits of data per second, with the fastest transatlantic connections taking less than 60 milliseconds (1/1,000 of a second). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, amy G said: This was another large part of my awakening Satellite denial is like air denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, dollazNdiamond said: no facts just attacks ways to stifle without a rifle as you deny whats in front of your eye EVASION, EVASION, EVASION. Your post is gibberish. 1 hour ago, dollazNdiamond said: antarctica is a wall of ice that holds our ocean water Hahaha, no it isn't. According to flat earth gibberish it would be 50,000 miles around. Who stops anybody from getting a boat and photographing it? Do you have any evidence for any of this? 1 hour ago, dollazNdiamond said: how many posts will it take for someone to show otherwise? You'll arm wave them all away dude, that's what flat earthers do because they are afraid to look silly. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=antarctic+stations&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiH9NCKlvrrAhVE4oUKHWfWCcwQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=antarctic+stations&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgYIABAFEB4yBggAEAUQHjIGCAAQBRAeMgYIABAFEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoICAAQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDOgQIABBDOgcIABCxAxBDUJjxG1jpixxgro8caABwAHgAgAFLiAHaCJIBAjE4mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=O5JoX8fqHcTElwTnrKfgDA&bih=757&biw=1600&safe=active https://www.documentarysite.com/2018/01/16/five-antarctica-documentaries-to-check-out/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mfl7n/episodes/player https://www.bookmundi.com/t/how-to-get-to-antarctica-traveling-to-the-earths-southernmost HOW MANY POSTS WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO SHOW YOUR CLAIM IS REAL. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE INSANE CLAIM, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, dollazNdiamond said: no facts just attacks ways to stifle without a rifle as you deny whats in front of your eye antarctica is a wall of ice that holds our ocean water how many posts will it take for someone to show otherwise? Try putting up some evidence instead of dumb ass memes, no wait a minute,there is the flat earth in the middle of the table ,well that's all the proof I need , I'm glad that's settled now I can go back to watching sesame street scratching my ass and picking my nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollazNdiamond Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Comedy Time said: Hahaha, no it isn't. According to flat earth gibberish it would be 50,000 miles around. straw man you are arguing with yourself again 2 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: HOW MANY POSTS WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO SHOW YOUR CLAIM IS REAL. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE INSANE CLAIM, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. the insane claim is on you prove that antarctica is on the bottom of a ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: EVASION, EVASION, EVASION. Your post is gibberish. Hahaha, no it isn't. According to flat earth gibberish it would be 50,000 miles around. Who stops anybody from getting a boat and photographing it? Do you have any evidence for any of this? You'll arm wave them all away dude, that's what flat earthers do because they are afraid to look silly. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=antarctic+stations&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiH9NCKlvrrAhVE4oUKHWfWCcwQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=antarctic+stations&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgYIABAFEB4yBggAEAUQHjIGCAAQBRAeMgYIABAFEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoICAAQsQMQgwE6BQgAELEDOgQIABBDOgcIABCxAxBDUJjxG1jpixxgro8caABwAHgAgAFLiAHaCJIBAjE4mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=O5JoX8fqHcTElwTnrKfgDA&bih=757&biw=1600&safe=active https://www.documentarysite.com/2018/01/16/five-antarctica-documentaries-to-check-out/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mfl7n/episodes/player https://www.bookmundi.com/t/how-to-get-to-antarctica-traveling-to-the-earths-southernmost HOW MANY POSTS WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO SHOW YOUR CLAIM IS REAL. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE INSANE CLAIM, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. 29 minutes ago, peter said: Try putting up some evidence instead of dumb ass memes, no wait a minute,there is the flat earth in the middle of the table ,well that's all the proof I need , I'm glad that's settled now I can go back to watching sesame street scratching my ass and picking my nose 28 minutes ago, dollazNdiamond said: straw man you are arguing with yourself again the insane claim is on you prove that antarctica is on the bottom of a ball https://spi-ace-expedition.ch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, amy G said: What I came to realize was quite obvious and had been hidden in plane sight... literally. When I looked at these same maps from the perspective of being above the North pole and it all makes sense. What does ? What makes sense ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, Basket Case said: https://spi-ace-expedition.ch/ ACE was the first project of the Swiss Polar Institute, a newly created entity founded by EPFL, the Swiss Institute of Forest, Snow and Landscape research WSL, ETHZ, the University of Bern and Editions Paulsen. It was designed to enhance international relations and collaboration between countries, as well as to spark the interest of a new generation of young scientists and explorers in polar research. From December 2016 to March 2017, scientific teams from all over the world have boarded the Russian research vessel Akademik Treshnikov for an unprecedented expedition around Antarctica. From biology to climatology to oceanography, researchers have been working on a number of interrelated fields for the future of this Continent. On the Akademik Treshnikov’s way down from Bremerhaven to Cape Town, 50 young scientists were on board to follow lectures and to do practical and oceanographic work. The “ACE Maritime University” was conducted under the auspices of the Russian Geographic Society and started on 19 November 2016 from Bremerhaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Comedy Time said: Gibberish. Everything appears to "beat" you. You must have some cloud cuckoo concept of the world if you are now denying a whole continent. I do deny it's existence, like dollazNdiamond said, Antarctica is a wall of of ice that surrounds earth 360%. It is God's boundary that holds in all the oceans from spilling out. Makes sense really when you think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, alexa said: I do deny it's existence, like dollazNdiamond said, Antarctica is a wall of of ice that surrounds earth 360%. It is God's boundary that holds in all the oceans from spilling out. Makes sense really when you think about it! It makes no sense and the idea of you "thinking about it" won't happen. You picked up this utterly ludicrous claim and have absolutely zero concept of the implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, peter said: Try putting up some evidence instead of dumb ass memes, no wait a minute,there is the flat earth in the middle of the table ,well that's all the proof I need , I'm glad that's settled now I can go back to watching sesame street scratching my ass and picking my nose Totally agree with you Peter. If that is supposed to represent proof of a flat earth, there is one glaring error. From what I understand flat earthers claim that Antarctica is a wall around the edge. Look at the U.N table meme and you can clearly see Antartica represented at the bottom not all around. You have no chance of winning this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I think it is extremely valuable to really question what you know without outside sources. It's quite uncomfortable to walk into a field and ask yourself, how can I prove the Earth is round from here, from what I can see. It teaches you a lot, and it has value, and you see how dependent you are on external sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Southern hemisphere, you also get Auraborialis, observed not just in Antarctica but all around the globe. Which is another thing along with Earths magnetic field Flerthers refuse to talk about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bombadil said: Look at the U.N table meme and you can clearly see Antartica represented at the bottom not all around. You have no chance of winning this!!! 6 hours ago, dollazNdiamond said: no facts just attacks ways to stifle without a rifle as you deny whats in front of your eye antarctica is a wall of ice that holds our ocean water how many posts will it take for someone to show otherwise? Post of the year. @dollazNdiamond aka @bflat aka @amy G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, rideforever said: I think it is extremely valuable to really question what you know without outside sources. It's quite uncomfortable to walk into a field and ask yourself, how can I prove the Earth is round from here, from what I can see. It teaches you a lot, and it has value, and you see how dependent you are on external sources. when a flat earther walks out into a field, it must be very uncomfortable indeed if that is all he or she thinks about. When I walk out into the bush I have never once thought how can I prove the earth is round However I will agree with you being in the bush teaches you a lot and dose have value,however what shape the earth is makes no difference ,it is what it is. A FE disciple walks into a field ,now how can I prove the earth is flat, I know I will go back inside and check utube , talk about external sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) I'm new to this thread, so sorry if this information has already been posted. Photos from Ernest Shakleton's expedition to Antarctica in 1914 were faked. In 2004 there was a doumentary about the photographer Frank Hurley called Frank Hurley: The Man who Made History, but I have never been able to find the entire video (free) online. Can anyone help me here. "Frank Hurley: The Man who Made History is a 2004 documentary focusing on the work of photographer Frank Hurley. The documentary, written and directed by Simon Nasht describes the highly controversial work of Frank Hurley after the discovery of his fabrication of many photos which were previously thought of as extremely significant." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hurley%3A_The_Man_who_Made_History The Guardian ran a piece about the faked photos in 2004. They are the photographs that show what is perhaps the greatest story of endurance and valour ever told, the epic narrative of Ernest Shackleton's near-fatal Antarctic expedition of 1914. Antarctic survivor says famed cameraman fabricated scenes and doctored images The explorer's desperate bid to save the lives of his crew has been hailed as the epitome of human achievement against the odds, while the arresting images captured by Frank Hurley's camera have ensured that the historic events have kept an icy grip on public imagination.But now it has emerged that the iconic photographs, among the most valuable ever taken, are not all they seem. New evidence and testimony from a surviving eyewitness reveal that Hurley, the pioneering Australian cameraman and adventurer, fabricated scenes and doctored images. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/aug/22/arts.artsnews I believe this is one of the photos, but there were many others when I researched the topic a few years ago. Now I can't find the relevant websites. Edited September 21, 2020 by Golden Retriever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:22 PM, Golden Retriever said: Photos from Ernest Shakleton's expedition to Antarctica in 1914 were faked. In 2004 there was a doumentary about the photographer Frank Hurley called Frank Hurley: The Man who Made History, but I have never been able to find the entire video (free) online. Can anyone help me here. "Frank Hurley: The Man who Made History is a 2004 documentary focusing on the work of photographer Frank Hurley. The documentary, written and directed by Simon Nasht describes the highly controversial work of Frank Hurley after the discovery of his fabrication of many photos which were previously thought of as extremely significant." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hurley%3A_The_Man_who_Made_History The Guardian ran a piece about the faked photos in 2004. They are the photographs that show what is perhaps the greatest story of endurance and valour ever told, the epic narrative of Ernest Shackleton's near-fatal Antarctic expedition of 1914. Antarctic survivor says famed cameraman fabricated scenes and doctored images The explorer's desperate bid to save the lives of his crew has been hailed as the epitome of human achievement against the odds, while the arresting images captured by Frank Hurley's camera have ensured that the historic events have kept an icy grip on public imagination.But now it has emerged that the iconic photographs, among the most valuable ever taken, are not all they seem. New evidence and testimony from a surviving eyewitness reveal that Hurley, the pioneering Australian cameraman and adventurer, fabricated scenes and doctored images. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/aug/22/arts.artsnews I believe this is one of the photos, but there were many others when I researched the topic a few years ago. Now I can't find the relevant websites. Hurley alleges they faked some photography during the voyage to Antarctica - if he says so. But the point is he is not questioning that they went and were stranded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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