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37 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

Maybe that's because this thread is about mandatory mask laws, not about US/ China relations??

 

now recalling posting rules, thanks a lot... I's just reacting to your post anyway but here's more...

 

whether in the street, from the media or authorities we're now dealing with people who can't be reasoned because they act out of duty, carelessness, fear or conformism and what they want the most is to be left alone, so if they're told to wear the mask then they'll wear the mask… those doing it under penalty of losing their job or business give a bad example that's followed unlike the good one you give by not wearing the mask...

 

it's now been made mandatory even outdoor in the street so what are you gonna do ? stop every ten steps to argue with covidiots, have three fist fights and get a handful fines every day on your way to work or back home ? when it's mandatory outdoor you'll wear the mask because there are cops watching outside…

 

I find more useful to get to know what's happening, why, what's next and discuss about it instead of reporting on what we've done today to symbolically fight 'oppression', not to mention that it's not facebook here but a forum for thinking... that's what I thought anyway... 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Problem child said:

Does anyone know of anyone being fined in UK yet for going maskless? just wondering as im not on social medias

 

this is what i'm waiting for. i'd be happy to accumulate up a lot of fines for not wearing a mask, and i sure as fuck wont pay a penny, so wonder what their response will be. gaol time ? would love to see it.

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1 minute ago, Given To Fly said:

 

this is what i'm waiting for. i'd love to accumulate up a lot of fines for not wearing a mask, and i sure as fuck wont pay a penny, so wonder what their response will be. gaol time ? would love to see it.

haha yea, tbh I cant see it happening anyway, so many ways to get out of it. Bet their all stressing at the station over it all

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only person ive seen regarding fine in eire

 

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children's brains in adult bodies... 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Coldrum said:

 

 

Already seeing these non-biodegradable masks discarded on the streets and littering the countryside, so much for environmental concerns!

 

I expect we will find them in the belly of the whales.

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It's all an illusion...

I live in Ireland and therefore I am basing the following on an Irish perspective.
You will have your own facts and figures depending on where you reside.

Firstly, the Irish government regulations regarding compulsory masks state:
"Who should not wear one: Anyone who....has trouble breathing"
They also state:
"Do not criticise or judge people who are not able to wear a face covering"
That's an immediate get out clause right there because who can determine whether someone else has breathing problems when wearing a mask?

 

Secondly, who enforces it?

Shop owners are saying they won't enforce the regulations, probably because:
They would have to employ extra staff for security
They are worried about confrontation
They are fearful of litigation in relation to discrimination/ disability laws.

I was talking to a Garda (Irish police force) recently and they told me that mask regulations are a civil mater and they only administer criminal law.
However even if that's incorrect, it leads to point number three:

 

Do the numbers.

The current population of the Republic of Ireland is 4,937,786
Total Gardai - 14,032
Deducting 10% for administration, senior officers, sick leave, holidays, and court appearances leaves a figure of 12,628 
They are currently working a 12 hour on/off 4 day on/off shift system, which means that at any one time the amount of active Gardai on duty is 3,157.
This gives a ratio of one active Garda for every 1,564 citizens!!

Even taking a 90% rate of compliance to the compulsory mask regulations, it would still leave 493,778 non compliant citizens giving a Gardai/Citizen ratio of 1/ 156.

So, aside from dealing with homicide, suicide, assault, domestics, drugs, motoring, abuse and all other criminal offences, each Garda would have 156 non compliant mask wearing 'offences' to police and control?

The 'law' of compulsory mask wearing is totally unenforceable. 
The only means the government have of enforcing these regulations is through manipulation by the media. They know this, and so should we. Ignore the media and the whole thing unravels and falls apart.
They're attempting to control the population purely by perception, because they have nothing else. The sooner people realise that this is just a "smoke and mirrors" trick the sooner we can get back to reality.

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Sorry, had last two figures wrong
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13 minutes ago, Miseducation said:

Do you know how I can get involved in these protest groups? I never knew this was happening; I would have liked to join.

 

This is the problem isn't it, msm keeps stuff like this quiet. I would follow someone like Piers Corbyn on twitter, he has been pretty vocal about all this. 

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Just now, Number6 said:

 

 

This is the problem isn't it, msm keeps stuff like this quiet. I would follow someone like Piers Corbyn on twitter, he has been pretty vocal about all this. 

Yes probably because they'd get more people joining if it was public knowledge! Better to keep it hidden so the sheep believe most people are complying with the agenda and it's only a few "selfish idiots" that choose to question the bullshit. There's a lot more of us than is shown in the mainstream...

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30 minutes ago, Miseducation said:

Yes probably because they'd get more people joining if it was public knowledge! Better to keep it hidden so the sheep believe most people are complying with the agenda and it's only a few "selfish idiots" that choose to question the bullshit. There's a lot more of us than is shown in the mainstream...

 

well that's a good point you just made here... :classic_biggrin:

 

any other news ?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Miseducation said:

Do you know how I can get involved in these protest groups? I never knew this was happening; I would have liked to join.

 

StandUpX are involved with many of the protests taking place - Piers Corbyn is heavily involved with this group. They have been having regular events at Speakers Corner.

 

You might want to take a look at this thread where a member of StandUpX recently joined the forum and posted. If you're on Facebook, they have a group where you would be able to find out about future events.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

StandUpX are involved with many of the protests taking place - Piers Corbyn is heavily involved with this group. They have been having regular events at Speakers Corner.

 

You might want to take a look at this thread where a member of StandUpX recently joined the forum and posted. If you're on Facebook, they have a group where you would be able to find out about future events.

 

 

Thanks, I'll join the FB group.

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Just googled  mandatory face masks for school kids and I see the contemptible prof Luke ONeill calling for just that in Ireland. I have avoided all msm now for last month or so, avoiding smug bought out cunts like him are exactly why I am so much happier avoiding it. If they ever do that my son is out of school and its home schooling. Nothing seems impossible anymore now with thos shower of shits

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why would it stop or at anything ? that's what we should wonder, then we should maybe wonder what it is for...

 

the latest hoaxes/scam we've seen were mostly for business/oil, but if this time it's for plain world domination then it may go far beyond what we've seen so far... the last world war was for world domination... 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

Slave labour! Any celebs speaking out?

 

Nope, but 700 British music artists signed a petition to "wipe out racism."

 

 

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Its the begnning of august and the death rate is pretty much normal.

but ...

There are now more cases cases cases  - being sensationalised by gov and the media  +  regionalised lockdowns in play

 

so - if there are more breakouts of so called cases  but the death rate is remaining normal (not being reported) then it perfectly illustrates that this coronvirus is not dangerous and has a very low mortality rate.

It follows then, that the previous lockdown deaths can have only been due to other reasons!     and not covid.

This is simply because the summer has provided a natural control group and the true mortality rate is being revealed !

 

This is the primary reason that masks are being mandated to provide a false narrative to give an excuse for the low mortality rate.

Although we already know that this a blatant falsehood as masks would not provide any protection from a pathogen on the sub-micron scale but they will peddle the lie that masks saved lives nevertheless.

 

This, besides the dehumanising, compliance, ritualistic aspects that are already implied and covered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
On 8/1/2020 at 9:32 PM, MR-E said:

only person ive seen regarding fine in eire

 

 

Under current Irish legislation this case is unwinnable....

 

 

Who should not wear one

Cloth face coverings are not suitable for children under the age of 13 and anyone who:

  • has trouble breathing
  • is unconscious or incapacitated
  • is unable to remove it without help
  • has special needs and who may feel upset or very uncomfortable wearing the face covering

Do not criticise or judge people who are not able to wear a face covering.

 

So, why was this case brought in the first place, who instigated it, and what did they hope to achieve?

In my view this case was taken for the specific purpose of creating a media headline.

The reaction they hoped to achieve was simple, a section of the population who are being brainwashed by media would read it and think...

"OMG they're even prosecuting handicapped people for not wearing a mask so I'd better wear mine everywhere...just in case"

I suspect were you to delve into the origins of this case, who instigated it, arresting officer etc.etc. you may come up with some interesting answers.

 

PS: Does anyone have any information on this case....arrest date, court date, defendant, verdict etc. ?

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