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6 hours ago, THESTRONG-THEVALIANT said:

There are lots of stories. This is about Mars & Inceptoid. Tony Rodrigues asks about and compares moments with Randy Cramer - about Jupiter?

 

 

Great video ... first part they both talk about their experience on Mars , Tony just visited there briefly , Randy spent most of his time there in the Mars Defense Force , fighting other groups ...

 

Important to realize Mars is a big place ... half a dozen different ET groups hold and defend territory there , including reps , humans , mantids ...all are constantly trying to expand territory and fighting each other ...mutual agreement has banned powerful weapons on Mars to avoid total destruction , it's more like a game for all involved , hand to hand fighting on the surface , most bases are underground . 

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Has Tony R actually presented any hard evidence in terms of reports, photos, locations of bases, predicted anything of significance that has come true? I am still unsure about him tbh. Its basically a case of take his word for it or not. When its dealing with sources like that you tend to have to analyse how they come across (body language, communication etc). Having watched parts of that video the way he communicates is that he has a habit of starting a sentence and never finishing it : the sentence is interrupted with another sentence which is interrupted with another sentence and so on with the multitude of sentences containing collectively all the information to his story - its q an annoying unpleasing way to listen once you noticed it see 17.00 for an example

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3 hours ago, mdx said:

Has Tony R actually presented any hard evidence in terms of reports, photos, locations of bases, predicted anything of significance that has come true? I am still unsure about him tbh. Its basically a case of take his word for it or not. When its dealing with sources like that you tend to have to analyse how they come across (body language, communication etc). 

 

If Tony was just a one off then it would be reasonable to be skeptical , but there are now more than half a dozen very credible people  like him who tell their own personal stories of serving in the SSP  , each for decades ...

 

In addition there are dozens of people  who give evidence  from the outside looking in , so to speak .... The British hacker Garry Mckinnon who got into  pentogaon  computers and found evidence , names of craft , officer's records .... Laura Eisenhower , granddaughter of ex president an attempt was made to recruit her into the SSP ... William Tompkins , Bob Lazar involved in constructing UFO type craft ... Karl Mollison...

 

So there is a mountain of evidence all giving the same picture , only those who have put in 1000's of hours exploring it all will be convinced the SSP is very real.   

 

Don't expect hard evidence , close up pictures of craft etc The SSP is off world,  those serving are taken for 20 years and before returned to Earth are stripped naked , scanned , x-rayed  ... they bring nothing back .

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Hollywood was telling the public about Mars decades ago, with the most memorable one for me being Total Recall.

 

If you are interested in Mars check out Andrew Basiago's older interviews. He claims that obama was in a Mars program with him.

 

Max Spiers also spoke about a Mars "jump room" being at 999 sepulvuda blvd in CA and when I looked up the address I think it was a Lockheed Martin facility! And of course inverted 999 - 666.

 

Then there is the band, 60 seconds to Mars.

 

All of these giving us hints as to what's really going on right under our nose.

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16 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Hollywood was telling the public about Mars decades ago, with the most memorable one for me being Total Recall.

If you are interested in Mars check out Andrew Basiago's older interviews. He claims that obama was in a Mars program with him.

 

That's right M... The original Total Recall was a very important movie . At the time of making 1990 it was the highest bugget  picture ever made and stared Cabal insider Schwarzenegger  ...Not so much hollywood telling the public the truth  , more a Cabal cover movie .... Giving cover for them if any of their 20 and back SSP operatives started to regain memories ... he , and people he told would just say "Oh ... you've been watching that movie" ...

The essential story is very close to the truth ... A secret high tech but savage civilization on Mars , the hero struggling to regain memories , figure out the truth . 

 

 

Many of the biggest  movies hint at the truth ..Terminator series , Matrix series , but for them to be released they will be fatally flawed , leading many astray into wrong directions  , particularly true for the first Matrix film ...

 

Basiago ...jump rooms , Obama on mars ...it's all true 

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Not sure if you have heard of James Casbolt aka Michael Prince, super soldier, but during one presentation he mentioned "rothschild so rich he can build colonies on Mars". I wouldn't doubt it as the rothschild's have long been referred to as reptilians also. Something to do with marduke too.

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Not sure if you have heard of James Casbolt aka Michael Prince, super soldier, but during one presentation he mentioned "rothschild so rich he can build colonies on Mars". I wouldn't doubt it as the rothschild's have long been referred to as reptilians also. Something to do with marduke too.

 

Yes ...Casbolt is an interesting story ... he became corrupted by his involvement with the cabal , was a loose cannon ... he knew about the SSP ...told a story of an advanced craft coming after him (in Hove Sth England I think) ... he was involved in dealing cocaine for MI5 and many other black opps   , married into an elite family ... but he was half crazy , out of control , the cabal finally  jailed him..

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On 6/9/2020 at 10:57 PM, oz93666 said:

 

If Tony was just a one off then it would be reasonable to be skeptical , but there are now more than half a dozen very credible people  like him who tell their own personal stories of serving in the SSP  , each for decades ...

 

In addition there are dozens of people  who give evidence  from the outside looking in , so to speak .... The British hacker Garry Mckinnon who got into  pentogaon  computers and found evidence , names of craft , officer's records .... Laura Eisenhower , granddaughter of ex president an attempt was made to recruit her into the SSP ... William Tompkins , Bob Lazar involved in constructing UFO type craft ... Karl Mollison...

 

So there is a mountain of evidence all giving the same picture , only those who have put in 1000's of hours exploring it all will be convinced the SSP is very real.   

 

Don't expect hard evidence , close up pictures of craft etc The SSP is off world,  those serving are taken for 20 years and before returned to Earth are stripped naked , scanned , x-rayed  ... they bring nothing back .

 

Here my take: 

 

Gary McKinnon - Credible. Well documented story. Unfortunately he didn't really see much except acknowledgement of non-terrestrial officers. Weird edited out NASA images. Nothing to make ones jaw drop

Tony Rodrigues - Can't tell if he's telling the truth or bullshitting. Something about his eyes and communication as per my prev post 

Laura Eisenhower - Only seen her videos briefly but know about the alleged contact her grandfather Pres Dwight Eisenhower had with ETs whilst in office. Seems like a nice lady but hasn't as far as I know had anyone from the secret programs come out in the public and divulge the nitty gritty info through her. 

William Tomkins - Don't know who this is 

Karl Mollinson - Comes across v dubious but that's just my opinion that many others share

Lazar - Prob the only one that has detailed account that has stayed true to word for 20yrs. Come out with highly credible and jaw dropping information. Imo strongest source by far. 

 

I might add David Wilcock to that list. I was into his coverage ten years ago. Lost interest when he started talking about stargates and Montauk project but have since learned of other sources that have mentioned these secret programmes. Have yet to revisit his research recently though

 

At the moment I have been getting into the research of Harold Kautz Vella who talks about Black Goo and it being the reason behind many programmes including wars, satanic rituals. He comes at things more from a scientific perspective. Obviously this science is outside the normal realm of mainstream science and involves higher dimensional physics. Him and Steven Greer I feel offer a more methodical, scientific breakdown of the UFO issue. I have recently found channels seem to contradict one another and there is much ambiguity in there information that is explained somewhat by them saying the truth is heavily dependant on what is in alignment with the individual's own beliefs so can vary from one person to another .  

 

 

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On 6/9/2020 at 10:57 PM, oz93666 said:

 

If Tony was just a one off then it would be reasonable to be skeptical , but there are now more than half a dozen very credible people  like him who tell their own personal stories of serving in the SSP  , each for decades ...

 

In addition there are dozens of people  who give evidence  from the outside looking in , so to speak .... The British hacker Garry Mckinnon who got into  pentogaon  computers and found evidence , names of craft , officer's records .... Laura Eisenhower , granddaughter of ex president an attempt was made to recruit her into the SSP ... William Tompkins , Bob Lazar involved in constructing UFO type craft ... Karl Mollison...

 

So there is a mountain of evidence all giving the same picture , only those who have put in 1000's of hours exploring it all will be convinced the SSP is very real.   

 

Don't expect hard evidence , close up pictures of craft etc The SSP is off world,  those serving are taken for 20 years and before returned to Earth are stripped naked , scanned , x-rayed  ... they bring nothing back .

 

 

People can say anything and create phony documents! Where's the physical proof? The ships? The photographs and footage. It's nonsense. They have probably been given psychotropic drugs by the Feds to make them think they've been to Mars.

 

My brother believes in this stuff, and that crazy Corey Goode. His wife doesn't even listen to him any more.

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What do we know about the Arcturians? I think I’ve become confused on the way, I think of the Arcturians as another name for the Nordics, the tall blonde hair blue eyed aliens. But some people think of the Arcturians as 5th dimensional creatures wanting to help us and the depictions of them are blue looking beings. Are the arcturians and Nordics the same or is there a difference. And where has this perception of the 5th dimensional beings wanting to help come from? When it comes to aliens we have kinda obvious ones like greys, reptilians, Nordics, annunaki and mantids. But there’s some other entities not of this world like these 5th dimensional beings and the machine elves are another that some people see when on dmt. Does anyone have any ideas please

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On 6/8/2020 at 10:59 AM, THESTRONG-THEVALIANT said:

Secret Spaceship Programs

Why is there no evidence that any of these programs exist? I, for the life of me, cannot figure out who but nasa, freemason shills would promote such ideas, or those who simply fell for it.

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On 7/26/2020 at 5:44 AM, Seeker said:

What do we know about the Arcturians? I think I’ve become confused on the way, I think of the Arcturians as another name for the Nordics, the tall blonde hair blue eyed aliens. But some people think of the Arcturians as 5th dimensional creatures wanting to help us and the depictions of them are blue looking beings. Are the arcturians and Nordics the same or is there a difference. And where has this perception of the 5th dimensional beings wanting to help come from? When it comes to aliens we have kinda obvious ones like greys, reptilians, Nordics, annunaki and mantids. But there’s some other entities not of this world like these 5th dimensional beings and the machine elves are another that some people see when on dmt. Does anyone have any ideas please

 

Interesting notions.

 

I am aware of the Corteum - not by personal encounter but I've heard of them. Supposedly a humanoid type race that has an interest in aiding humanity. Came here from their planet that was destroyed - or something led to them being unable to live in their homes, so they left and ended up here. They are few in number, and have advanced technology... they might be teamed up with the military complex... or more specifically within the ACIO = Advanced contact intelligence organization (if it exists?)

 

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On 6/9/2020 at 12:56 AM, oz93666 said:

 

Great video ... first part they both talk about their experience on Mars , Tony just visited there briefly , Randy spent most of his time there in the Mars Defense Force , fighting other groups ...

 

Important to realize Mars is a big place ... half a dozen different ET groups hold and defend territory there , including reps , humans , mantids ...all are constantly trying to expand territory and fighting each other ...mutual agreement has banned powerful weapons on Mars to avoid total destruction , it's more like a game for all involved , hand to hand fighting on the surface , most bases are underground . 

I just watched a couple of the interviews Laura Eisenhower did with these two guys and this was total news to me. Well, I saw another one with Tony Rodrigues done by her too two nights ago. So, our governments are doing all these space explorations and going up to the Space Station, while there is really all this other stuff going on! They know so much more about this sophisticated ET technology than they have been showing us! It just changes everything for me, knowing this.

I LOVE Earth or Gaia and am really not interested in going to live on some other planet. The ones we have been shown look so bare and I love forests and a green landscape so very much. And on those other ones the atmosphere probably forces one to either live in a dome or go out with an oxygen mask, which I would hate.

Most of all, I want Earth to be saved from devastation by all those greedy humans and live in harmony with nature, but with the ecologically friendly energy they have elsewhere. Knowing now that our governments know all about that energy and are using it out there but keep us completely in the dark about it, makes them even bigger criminals in my eyes than I thought them before! Life could actually be perfect on Earth. We only need to overcome these diabolical monsters. But Randy Cramer said in that interview on Laura Eisenhower's Youtube channel he was on with Toni Rodrigues that only 1% of 1% of the global population, or maybe it was the US population, I can't remember, has woken up and has an open mind. That was on March 31st. and that sounds really depressing...

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9 minutes ago, Dagmar Gross said:

I just watched a couple of the interviews Laura Eisenhower did with these two guys and this was total news to me. Well, I saw another one with Tony Rodrigues done by her too two nights ago. So, our governments are doing all these space explorations and going up to the Space Station, while there is really all this other stuff going on! They know so much more about this sophisticated ET technology than they have been showing us! It just changes everything for me, knowing this.

I LOVE Earth or Gaia and am really not interested in going to live on some other planet. The ones we have been shown look so bare and I love forests and a green landscape so very much. And on those other ones the atmosphere probably forces one to either live in a dome or go out with an oxygen mask, which I would hate.

Most of all, I want Earth to be saved from devastation by all those greedy humans and live in harmony with nature, but with the ecologically friendly energy they have elsewhere. Knowing now that our governments know all about that energy and are using it out there but keep us completely in the dark about it, makes them even bigger criminals in my eyes than I thought them before! Life could actually be perfect on Earth. We only need to overcome these diabolical monsters. But Randy Cramer said in that interview on Laura Eisenhower's Youtube channel he was on with Toni Rodrigues that only 1% of 1% of the global population, or maybe it was the US population, I can't remember, has woken up and has an open mind. That was on March 31st. and that sounds really depressing...

 

Yes ...It's really crazy ... these insiders inform us this has been going on for 70 years . The NAZI's were the first into space , they escaped Germany and relocated to Antarctica , were on the Moon by 1950 ... the US followed them 10 years latter .... both groups now have vast empires will millions of operatives in bases on many planets ... they are all mind control slaves , a true nightmare ... the ET's will probably use these two separate , highly armed groups against  us Earth dwellers in a fake alien invasion or similar , coming very soon now. 

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12 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

The NAZI's were the first into space , they escaped Germany and relocated to Antarctica

 

if this is the case what i don't understand then why didn't during the nuremberg trials the nazi hierarchy let it be known instead of suicide, prison and the death penalty ?

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